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Global Country of World Peace

I've been working on this article, but you deleted it because you felt it was spam. Is there any chance I could get the text back so I can improve it? Thanks! --Sueyen 20:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Mdew.png

You just deleted Image:Mdew.png—a picture of mine—with the reasoning “and Warhol's copyright still exists on the soup cans painting, so this is a copyvio”. I do not remember seeing a notice that you were considering doing this, and your reasoning in this case is faulty. The picture I uploaded was not by Warhol, it was by me, so the only copyright involved (PepsiCo does have a trademark on the the name Mountain Dew, but that is different) was my copyright. Since I released the image to the public domain, it can not be a copyright violation. Please restore the image and its talk page which explained this in greater detail. —MJBurrageTALK • 14:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. The logo is still under copyright of Pepsi Co. We cannot draw a logo ourselves and put it into the public domain. Just like with the above logo issue with Disney, we cannot draw someone elses copyright and make it our own. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But their logo is not copyrighted, it is trademarked. Bass beer’s trademarked logo is a red triangle, the trademark only stops you from using a red triangle commercially in the beer (possibly beverage) market. Long before the soda existed, Mountain Dew meant whisky, and it was the name of the editorial column in the Catskill Mountain News. PepsiCo’s trademark only makes it illegal to use it to pretend to be them in the commercial marketplace. While many trademark holders would like us to believe that trademark is the same as (or even stronger than) copyright it is just different.
When Warhol painted the Campbell’s soup can he did not violate any copyrights because they did not apply, and he did not violate trademark, because he was not pretending to be the soup company. My picture in no way violated copyright, and it would only violate trademark if used deceptively. —MJBurrageTALK • 19:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Having not gotten a response, I will be reposting a Mountain Dew image soon. Furthermore, to add to the above information, under US law typefaces cannot be copyrighted, and as PepsiCo is an American company, that is the law that would apply here. —MJBurrageTALK • 05:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are still using the logo in other places. Plus, with Mountain Dew being created not long ago (1940's) their original copyright on the logo won't expire for several more years. So, please, do not upload it again. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You keep claiming they have a copyright to their logo, logos are trademarked NOT copyrighted. Now if they used a copyrighted picture as part of a trademarked logo than you would be correct, but typefaces are not copyrightable, and the image I posted was only the words Mountain Dew in a similar typeface, I deliberately did not include the graphic swirls that are around the current logo (In part to make the image timeless, and in part in case somebody mistakenly believed they were copyrighted. Since the name Mountain Dew, is not copyrightable, and the typeface is not copyrightable, my image is not copyright infringement. Commercial misuse would be trademark infringement, but that is not an issue here. —MJBurrageTALK • 16:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is still a logo being used by a company; and on Wikipedia, we treat logos are fair use images. And fair use images cannot be used in the userspace. What I can suggest is that if this logo is mostly for the userspace, just go with the standard MD text, with each letter the green and red color, and use that. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 17:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are incorrect in your assertion that a trademark cannot also be copyrighted. Pepsico's rendition of the Mountain Dew logo is well within the scope of copyright under US law, and you may not make copies of it without either license from Pepsico or a legitimate claim that such copies fall within fair use, and if you do make such copies you may not upload them to Wikipedia except as permitted by Wikipedia's "fair use" policies. Generally speaking, logos may be and generally are copyrighted. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A requsest

For a stub on a Belarusian town: Skidel :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  16:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Block

I wasn't disrupting Wikipedia. - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 18:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you were not disrupting Wikipedia, under the scripts and bots policy, a script being ran by a user that is causing problems on Wikipedia, we can block it until the script is stopped running. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'North America (Americas)' ... again

Thank you for weighing in on this prior AfD. Even though an apparent consensus supported the prior AfD in some way, and the article has been deleted, this has reared its head again -- please peruse and weigh in. Thanks! Corticopia 22:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DRV, from what I see now, it has a lot of endorse votes. The person who deleted the article is a person I trust very well. However, DRV usually is for improper deletions (like if I delete the article on AMLO and protected it). However, I think it was a proper deletion, since a lot of the voting for keep was either keep (then signatures) or trying to discredit you. So just relax, though I think a second AFD might be coming. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the response; you might want to weigh in there, but I leave that to you. I believe the nominator of the review (and some others) do believe the AfD to be improper or that the 'retention' viewpoint has been unnecessarily deprecated. I'm unsure what you mean by (so to speak) 'the second coming' and I truly hope this is the last of it, but life is full of surprises: as Reagan said, "Trust, but Verify." In any event, thanks again for your input. Corticopia 09:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What I meant by a second coming of the AFD is that one of the decisions that an admin can make is called a "relist at AFD." It means the article gets sent back to AFD for yet another debate. I think it is heading towards that way, though I am seeing more endorses than restores (maybe enough to relist, since I know some people on Wikipedia are process wonks, since "consensus" wasn't made). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS at Image:Skydive exit.jpg

Zscout, are you a OTRS personnel? I noticed you added an OTRS template to Image:Skydive exit.jpg, but I do not see your account name at m:OTRS/personnel. --Iamunknown 02:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I was added to OTRS less than an hour ago. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright license of Image:Flag of FOTW.svg

I can find no information suggesting that the Flags of the World flag is freely licensed. Am I missing something? --Iamunknown 05:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can ask my boss, the FOTW director, Rob Reaside, if you contact him using the FOTW website. While I have not seen a copyright claim to the image or to the flag itself, it doesn't hurt to ask him. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Nice work in recent rvv. As a token of thanks from me take this Crested Penguin 10:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bounty

"Honored Teacher of the Republic of Belarus" sounds exactly like what I'm looking for! Teachers the world over deserve recognition, and I'll pay the bounty for an article in the English WP on any national teacher recognition program. As long as the word "teacher" actually applies to an educator (and it isn't some loaded political term used for ideological reasons, eg. "Kim Il Sung is the Great Teacher of the People"), I'll be very happy to award the bounty.

As far as the terms of the bounty, I give $50 if the article makes it to FA status; or $25, if the article simply exists in non-stub form. Thanks! Xoloz 14:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and get started on it soon. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 17:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Logo on Chechen Wiki

Hey! Dont know if you got my message. I finished the new Chechen logo. Search for Image:Wiki.png on ce.wikipedia.org. Problem is, I dont now how to update it. How do you do it? I have sysop status so either you or I can do it. Please tell me :) Respond on my Talk page on Chechen wiki. Thanks :) --Ice201 16:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on your talk page, as you requested. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 17:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And I responded on your talk page on Chechen wiki. :) Wish we all just had one simple talk page :) haha --Ice201 03:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine National Anthem

Why did you delete the link I put in the page for the Philippine National Anthem? Inkan1969 19:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We generally do not host YouTube links due to copyright issues. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
O.K. I'll look for a non YouTube vocal link. Or maybe someone can add a vocal .ogg file to go with the instrumental .ogg file? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Inkan1969 (talkcontribs) 20:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Already two steps ahead of you: I am in the process of getting vocal recordings we can use. You can talk to the folks at WP:PINOY to see some of the details. I still need to convert the files to OGG, but I am waiting for the vinyl recordings to be copied. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for any trouble I might've caused you. While you're at it you might want to find a vocal recording for the Uzbekistan national anthem to replace the youtube link you deleted. And if you happen to find other Anthem pages with youtube links, and those links are the only vocal links on those pages, would you consider replacing them with usable vocal recordings instead of just deleting them and leaving nothing? Thanks. Inkan1969 20:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]