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NOTE: trolling, personal attacks and personal remarks will be archived or deleted. Send personal messages via e-mail. This page is archived frequently.

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Warning re trolling and inaccurate edit summaries

Please desist from editing my user page by restoring the comments of banned editors, stop your trolling and stop making inaccurate edit summaries such as this one.[1] My user page was semi-protected to stop the same kind of postings that you are reverting. Please stop the trolling and inflammatory comments and also stop removing proper warnings from your user page. --Mantanmoreland 21:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Step back from the keyboard

Step back from the keyboard, both of you. This block button is loaded. I want to see both of you walk away and if either of you looks back he gets it in the neck. Just zis Guy you know? 23:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes. If Mantanmoreland never bothers me in any way, shape or form again...that would be wonderful. Thanks Marshall. Ptmccain 00:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ptmccain, you have been told more than once to stop bothering Mantanmoreland. Fred Bauder and myself are dealing with the situation. I'm removing your above comments because they contains false allegations about Mantanmoreland. Please do not revert me. FloNight ^talk 01:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whay FloNight said. Also: stop trolling. Just zis Guy you know? 08:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indef blocked

Ptmccain, your account has been indef blocked for repeatedly making false allegations against several users and repeating alleged personal information about these users. I was not the blocking administrator but I agree with the block. FloNight ^talk 02:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ptmccain for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page.

I placed this on the user page only because wikipedia would not allow me to edit the talk page for a banned user. Feel free to move the notice. --Npnunda (talk) 15:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lutherrose.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Lutherrose.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. B (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Stop POV edits and disruptive conduct ==
+== Warning re trolling and inaccurate edit summaries ==
-Stop deliberately misinterpreting comments by others on the [[Martin Luther]] talk page and then labeling your POV-pushing edits as "per talk page." Also you unecessarily posted the entire text of a section of the article after I warned you to stop clogging the talk page. These tactics are disruptive and contrary to [[WP:POINT]].--[[User:Mantanmoreland|Mantanmoreland]] 13:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+Please desist from editing my user page by restoring the comments of banned editors, stop your trolling and stop making inaccurate edit summaries such as this one.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mantanmoreland/Archive3&diff=66229972&oldid=66185496]
-::Again, thanks for your kind concern and taking the time to share your feelings here. I'm sorry you find my remarks on the discussion page to be "clogging." The section of the article was posted on the talk page so we could talk about. If you have something constructive to add, I welcome your input and reactions. I respectfully urge you to keep in mind [[WP:CIVIL]] and [[WP:GF]]. Thank you.[[User:Ptmccain|Ptmccain]] 13:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+My user page was semi-protected to stop the same kind of postings that you are reverting. Please stop the trolling and inflammatory comments and also stop removing proper warnings from your user page. --[[User:Mantanmoreland|Mantanmoreland]] 21:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
+== Step back from the keyboard ==
-:::You know perfectly well that it is not necessary to post an entire section of an article in the talk page. Please stop disrupting the talk page by such actions.--[[User:Mantanmoreland|Mantanmoreland]] 16:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+Step back from the keyboard, both of you.  This block button is loaded.  I want to see both of you walk away and if either of you looks back he gets it in the neck. [[User Talk:JzG|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">Guy</span> you know?]] 23:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
-::::I again respectfully ask you to observe [[WP:GF]] and [[WP:CIVIL]]. I certainly do apologize to you for any of my past behaviors and posts that have offended you. If you have constructive and specific remarks to offer in response to the proposal, placed on the talk page to discuss please offer those remarks. You may also wish to consider this advice offered on Wiki policy pages [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Etiquette&action=edit&section=5]:
+Yikes. If Mantanmoreland never bothers me in any way, shape or form again...that would be wonderful. Thanks Marshall. [[User:Ptmccain|Ptmccain]] 00:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
-::::::<blockquote>Before interpreting Sanger's parting advice as permission from the current community of participants to engage in [[personal attacks]], harrassment or [[stalking]] after labeling people with whom you disagree; it would be wise to read and understand the policy or guideline regarding [[personal attacks]] and the [[ad hominem]] fallacy identified by ancient Greek philosophers.</blockquote>
+:Ptmccain, you have been told more than once to stop bothering Mantanmoreland. Fred Bauder and myself are dealing with the situation. I'm removing your above comments because they contains false allegations about Mantanmoreland. Please do not revert me. [[User:FloNight|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''FloNight'''</span>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<sup style="color:green;">''talk''</sup>]] 01:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
-::::Finally, with all due respect, if you persist in posting the kinds of notes that you have previously you will leave me no choice but to implement this bit of advice offered on Wiki's etiquette page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Etiquette&action=edit&section=5]: "*Show the door to trolls, vandals, and wiki-anarchists, who if permitted would waste your time and create a poisonous atmosphere here." I'm sure we both can find more constructive uses of our time than this kind of negative exchange and back and forth. I want to work constructively with you, and move on and put the past behind. If you do not feel you are able to do that, then you will leave with no choice but to delete remarks that do not conform with [[WP:CIVIL]]. This is your last and final warning. Thanks for your cooperation.[[User:Ptmccain|Ptmccain]] 16:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+:Whay FloNight said.  Also: stop trolling. [[User Talk:JzG|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">Guy</span> you know?]] 08:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
-== Thanks for that proposal ==
+==Indef blocked==
-You'll see I have asked some questions.  While I have a couple of changes I'd propose, I'd suggest they be dealt with in an environment where changes are made only by consensus; in other words, I believe I could convince SV in particular, as the original author of a couple of phrases, that there are better ways to do certain things.  So, if this is a proposed complete resolution, I think it sounds very good. [[User:A Musing|Sam]] 14:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+Ptmccain, your account has been indef blocked for repeatedly making false allegations against several users and repeating alleged personal information about these users. I was not the blocking administrator but I agree with the block. [[User:FloNight|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''FloNight'''</span>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<sup style="color:green;">''talk''</sup>]] 02:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
+== [[Wikipedia:Sock puppet|Sockpuppetry]] case ==
-:::Yes, I propose it as a complete revision, though objective analysis of it reveals it is a modest revision, retaining most of what SV did with it recently. I put it up on the talk page for discusssion after it was reverted, but I did sincerely believe SV and I had reached a consensus on trying to indicate persons' affiliations. I notice the person who reverted it was not a participant in any discussion. As the present form of the article now stands it contains an error in describing Rabbi Bernbaum. I also tried very hard to be respectful of SV's concerns about the wording. I even removed the person who seems to have been a source of concern on the part of some editors: Netto. But I notice that my revision was simply reverted with no discussion and my placement of the article on the talk page has now been described as "clogging." I believe it is still good to rise above the pettiness and let it be seen for what it is. I'm doing my best to be mindful of [[WP:CIVIL]] and [[WP:GF]] and I truly wish others would. But it would appear that one editor in particular, whomm I suspect actually of being two editors, is doing all he can to try to keep stirring up conflict and strife on the page. It's clear to me from the history that several of us have fed into that by responding in kind, me included, but that was not the right approach. That's why I believe the advice on [[WP:CIVIL]] is extremely wise. In such cases the best response is simply to ignore the person, forgive them, and respond as kindly as possible. Perhaps the editor will cool it, or if he persists, this then will be a matter to be taken up by Wiki administrators.[[User:Ptmccain|Ptmccain]] 14:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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+You have been accused of [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|sockpuppetry]]. Please refer to [[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ptmccain]] for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry/Notes for the suspect|notes for the suspect]] before editing the evidence page.
+I placed this on the user page only because wikipedia would not allow me to edit the talk page for a banned user. Feel free to move the notice. --[[User:Npnunda|Npnunda]] ([[User talk:Npnunda|talk]]) 15:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
-== Don't delete warnings from your user page ==
+== File:Lutherrose.jpg listed for deletion ==
-Please don't delete warnings from your talk page, as you just did [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ptmccain&diff=64499309&oldid=64499089]. You said in the edit summary "I've heard you. I apologized." You didn't apologize and you didn't hear me, because you've done the same thing over and over again. No, responding to a valid warning with a "retaliatory warning" is not an "apology."--[[User:Mantanmoreland|Mantanmoreland]] 17:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, [[:File:Lutherrose.jpg]], has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion]]. Please see the [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2009 January 2#Lutherrose.jpg|'''discussion''']] to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}} <!-- Template:Idw --> [[User:B|B]] ([[User talk:B|talk]]) 23:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)