Talk:Amine

Should really add quaternary amines here.

Josh Cherry 22:40, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

a "quaternary amine" being ...?--Smokefoot 22:49, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence is giving me trouble, mostly b/c I'm not an organic chemist, but if it's confusing to me it's likely to be confusing to others. Anyway I hope someone could clarify and then update it in the article:

"However, if any of the carbons bonded to the nitrogen that is part of a carbonyl group, then the compound is considered an amide rather than an amine."

Does this mean -- if any of the carbons in the 'R' group are, in turn, part of a carbonyl group, then the whole deal is an 'amide' instead of an 'amine'

basically 'that is' is ambiguously referring to one of 'the nitrogen' or 'the carbons' Thx.

Harold MacKiernan 5 Jan 2006 23:11 PST

I'm pretty sure that any carbonyl group adjacent to an N, NH or NH₂ makes it an amide. Perhaps:

"However, if any of the carbons bonded to the nitrogen are also part of a carbonyl group, then the compound is considered an amide rather than an amine." Anand 21:57, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice drawing for the nitrile and amide reductions by LAH, but you might revise the nitriles so that R-C-N are linear in the starting material.--Smokefoot 04:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

also the amide forming reaction from acid chloride and an alkyl amine is incorrect as one CH2 was lost.--Smokefoot 00:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Health Hazards in the workplace

I need as much advice as possible about amines at work -- specifically in computer systems. We have 100 new computers at work with KETTLE LEADS being used to run them. Also, the so-called air-conditioning units do not extract to outside the building, but rather merely recyle the air in a cooler state back into the building!! Can anyone help or give advice? People are having constant headaches and other respiratory symptoms...