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'''Dutch Schultz''' ([[August 6]], [[1902]] &ndash; [[October 24]], [[1935]]) was a [[New York City]]-area gangster of the 1920s and 1930s. Born '''Arthur Flegenheimer''' in the [[German-American]] [[Yorkville, Manhattan|Yorkville]] section of [[Manhattan]], he made his fortune in [[organized crime]]-related activities such as [[rum-running|bootlegging]] alcohol and the [[numbers racket]].
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== Dvořák media files ==


Hi again. Media files may be of course a great improving of the articles, however, I have some reservations to the recordings on Dvořák's page:
==Early years==
Arthur Flegenheimer<ref name="five families book">{{cite web
| title = The Five Families
| publisher = MacMillan
| url = http://books.google.com/books?id=5nAt6N8iQnYC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0
| accessdate = 2008-06-22 }}</ref> was born to German-Jewish immigrants Emma and Herman Flegenheimer. When he was 14 years old his father abandoned the family. The event [[psychological trauma|traumatized]] Schultz; throughout his life he would deny that his father had left the family, instead defending the elder Flegenheimer as a respectable man and ideal father who died tragically of disease. As a result of his father's departure, Schultz left school to find work and support himself and his mother. He ended up apprenticing to low-level [[mobster]]s at a neighborhood [[night club]]. Schultz robbed [[craps]] games before graduating to [[burglary]]. Schultz was eventually caught breaking into an apartment, arrested, and sent to prison on Blackwell's Island (now known as [[Roosevelt Island]]) However, the prison staff soon found the young inmate to be unmanageable and arranged his transfer to the Westhampton Farms work farm. Schultz escaped from the farm but was soon re-captured and given an additional two months on his sentence.


{{multi-listen item|filename=Ten Biblical Songs by Antonin Dvorak.ogg|title=Ten Biblical songs (Czech: ''Biblické Písně''), Op. 99|description=Performed by Marta Chaloupka (soprano) and Andrew Chislett (piano). A [[song cycle]] based on the [[Bible of Kralice]]'s translation of [[Psalms]]}}
After Schultz's release from the work farm, his old associates dubbed him "Dutch" Schultz in honor of a deceased [[strongarm]] thug who was notorious for dirty fighting at the turn of the century. With the enactment of [[Prohibition]], Schultz, along with other [[organized crime]] figures, would become a wealthy man.<ref name="five families book"/>


This first one is absolutely unintelligible, the singer's voice is blurred, and whole recording gives us not good idea of Dvořák's cycle. However, isn't it better than nothing??
==Prohibition==
In 1928, gangster Joey Noe set up the Hub Social Club, a hole-in-the-wall [[speakeasy]] in a Brook Avenue tenement and hired Schultz to work in it. While working at the Club, Schultz gained a reputation for brutality when he lost his temper. Impressed by Schultz's ruthlessness, Noe soon made him a partner. With the profits from their speakeasy, Noe and Schultz opened more operations. To avoid the high delivery cost of wholesale beer, the two men bought their own trucks. Frankie Dunn, a [[Union City, New Jersey]] brewery owner, supplied Noe and Schultz with beer. Schultz would ride shotgun on deliveries to protect the beer trucks from hijackers. Noe and Shultz then decided that they would also furnish the beer for their rival speakeasies. If a speakeasy owner refused to buy beer from the Noe / Schultz combine, he would pay a very steep price.


:No. We've discussed this problem before. If the recording is not good, then IMO we should ''not'' use it. Unfortunately this has been made a 'featured sound'. If you want to get it deleted from the article and downgraded I'd be happy to review it. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 10:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The Rock brothers, who had established a territory in the [[Bronx]] while Noe and Schultz were still hanging out on street corners, did not appreciate incursions on their turf and decided to play hardball. However, the Rock brothers underestimated these newcomers. Eventually, elder brother John Rock agreed to step aside, but younger brother Joe refused to give in. One night the Noe / Schultz gang kidnapped and brutalized him. The gang beat him and hung him by his thumbs on a meat hook. They then allegedly wrapped a gauze bandage smeared with discharge from a [[gonorrhea]] infection over his eyes.{{fact|date=June 2008}} His family reportedly paid $35,000, and he was released. Shortly after his return, he went [[blindness|blind]]. From then on, the Noe / Schultz gang met little opposition as they expanded to control the beer supply for the entire Bronx.<ref name="five families book"/>


::Huh, a featured sound... You're right, I've found it. 100% support, but any musicological point of view. One opinion: ''...very relaxing & good quality on the sound...'' It's not very relaxing for me to listen to it. The piano part is not bad, I have concerns particularly to the singer, as I described above. I've missed it... I think it's maybe good to have it here, but as one of the best media files on wikipedia?? In that case, almost every sound may be a featured sound:) What do you think about this recording? Thanks [[User:Vejvančický|Vejvančický]] ([[User talk:Vejvančický|talk]]) 17:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
==Legs Diamond==
The Noe / Shultz operation, which had begun to flourish in the Bronx, had become the only non-[[Italy|Italian]] gang able to rival those who would become the heads of the Mafia's [[Five Families]].<ref name="five families book"/> It now expanded over to [[Manhattan]]'s Upper West Side into the neighborhoods of [[Washington Heights, Manhattan|Washington Heights]], [[Yorkville, Manhattan|Yorkville]], and [[Harlem]]. Schultz and Noe moved their headquarters from the Bronx to [[East 149th Street]] in Manhattan; however, the gang's move to Manhattan now brought them into direct competition with [[Jack Diamond (gangster)|Jack "Legs" Diamond]]. A full-scale war soon broke out between the two gangs.


:::The recording quality is poor. It's distorted. (I haven't listen to all of it.) Musically it may be OK - but you will be a better judge of this. I don't know the work, the singer or have any Czech. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 09:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Early one morning in 1928, Noe was gunned down outside of the Chateau Madrid on [[54th Street (Manhattan)|54th Street]]. He managed to get off a couple of shots although he was mortally wounded. Witnesses later reported seeing a blue Cadillac bounce off a parked car and lose one of its doors before speeding away. When police recovered the car an hour later, they discovered the body of [[Louis Weinberg]] (no relation to Shultz gang members [[Abraham Weinberg|Abraham "Bo" Weinberg]] and [[George Weinberg (mobster)|George Weinberg]]) in the back seat. Joey Noe managed to survive the ambush, but died a month later. Schultz was crushed by the loss of his friend and mentor, and the underworld legend is that he held Diamond responsible.


{{multi-listen item|filename=Antonin Dvorak - carnival overture, op. 92.ogg|title=Carnival Overture, Op. 92|description=Performed by the Skidmore College Orchestra. Courtesy of [http://www.musopen.com Musopen]}}
A few weeks after the Chateau Madrid ambush, [[Arnold Rothstein]] was found fatally wounded near a service entrance to the Park Royal Hotel. While the most common theory for Rothstein's murder was that [[George "Hump" McManus]] killed him over a bad gambling debt, many believed Schultz ordered the Rothstein hit in retribution for the Chateau Madrid meeting. One piece of circumstantial evidence supporting this theory was that the first person McManus called after the Rothstein shooting was Schultz's attorney, [[Dixie Davis]]. After the phone call to Davis, Bo Weinberg picked up McManus and spirited him away from the murder scene. McManus was later cleared of the killing.


The second representation of Dvořák's style is also rather amateur, a raw sound quality, bad dynamics and tuning... I'm not a critic, just a music fan, but I think, this is not really representative.
In October 1929, Diamond and his mistress were dining in their pajamas in her suite at the Hotel Monticello. Gunmen broke down the door and sprayed the room with machine gun fire, hitting Legs five times. After recovering from his wounds, Diamond left New York for a stay in Europe. During his absence, the Diamond gang was forced to relocate out of the city. When Diamond returned home, he began carving out a new territory for himself in [[Albany, New York|Albany]].


:I agree I've deleted it from the [[Antonín Dvořák|Dvořák]] page. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 10:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
=="Mad Dog" Coll==
Unique among the major gangs in organized crime, Schultz gang members received a flat salary instead of the customary percentage of the take from any operations in which they were involved. In 1930, one of Schultz's enforcers, [[Mad Dog Coll|Vincent Coll]] decided that this arrangement was unacceptable and demanded to be made a partner instead. When Schultz refused, Coll formed his own crew with the ultimate goal of murdering Schultz and taking over his territory. During the bloody conflict that followed, Coll lost his older brother Pete and earned the nick name "Mad Dog" from the press after a child was killed during a botched assasination committed by his gang.


I have to admit, I often rather don't play the audio files, since the sound quality, as well as quality of the performance are bad. On the other hand, I know, it's not easy to find available recordings of better quality.
In February 1932, the Schultz gang lured Coll into a trap. While Coll was talking in a drug store phone booth, gunmen burst into the store and machine-gunned him to death. The killers may have included Fats McCarthy and the Weinberg brothers.


::::Where did you leave your 'remark'? --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 09:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
==The Numbers Game==
:::::Sorry: ''...a featured sound... You're right, I've found it. 100% support, but any musicological point of view. One opinion: ''...very relaxing & good quality on the sound...'' It's not very relaxing for me to listen to it. The piano part is not bad, I have concerns particularly to the singer, as I described above. I've missed it... I think it's maybe good to have it here, but as one of the best media files on wikipedia?? In that case, almost every sound may be a featured sound:)''
With the end of Prohibition, Dutch Schultz needed to find new sources of income. His answer came with [[Otto Berman|Otto "Abbadabba" Berman]] and the [[Harlem]] [[numbers racket]]. The numbers racket, the forerunner of "[[Pick 3]]" lotteries, required players to choose three numbers, which were then derived from the last number before the decimal in the odds at the [[racetrack]].<ref name="five families book"/> Berman was a middle-aged accounting and math whiz who let Schultz fix this racket. In a matter of seconds, Berman could mentally calculate the minimum amount of money Schultz needed to bet at the track at the last minute in order to alter the odds. This strategy ensured that Schultz always controlled which numbers won, guaranteeing a larger amount of losers in Harlem and a multi-million dollar-a-month, tax-free income for Schultz. Berman was reportedly paid $10,000 a week for his valued insight.


:::::That "remark" is my opinion on the strange assessment of some featured sounds. We have complicated and very strict assessment of good and featured articles. It´s surprising for me, that bad and not appropriate recording is as well "featured". And moreover, its assessment is not sufficient. I´ll try to participate more actively in that area. Unfortunately, I contribute from several computers, and I cannot play the media files on my computer at this very moment. [[User:Vejvančický|Vejvančický]] ([[User talk:Vejvančický|talk]]) 07:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
==The Restaurant Racket==
Along with the [[policy rackets]], Schultz began extorting New York restaurant owners and workers. Using strong-arm tactics such as beatings and stink bomb attacks, Schultz merged all the local unions under his Metropolitan Restaurant & Cafeteria Owners Association. A hulking gangster named Jules Modgilewsky, aka Julie Martin, served as Schultz' point man in this operation. Martin successfully extracted thousands of dollars of tributes and "dues" from the terrified restaurant owners.
During Schultz’s tax trial he began to suspect that Martin was skimming from the shakedown operation; Schultz had recently discovered a $70,000 disparity in the books. On the evening of [[March 2]], [[1935]], Schultz invited Martin to a meeting at the Harmony Hotel in [[Cohoes, New York]]. At the meeting, at which Bo Weinberg and [[Dixie Davis]] were also present, Martin belligerently denied Schultz's charges and began arguing with him. Both men were drinking heavily as the argument continued and Schultz sucker-punched Martin. Finally, Martin admitted that he had stolen “only” $20,000 dollars, which he believed he was “entitled to" anyway. Dixie Davis related what happened next:


::::::Ah, now I understand - you just left your opinion here - nowhere else. Would you like to add it to [[Image talk:Ten Biblical Songs by Antonin Dvorak.ogg]]? We can then attempt to get it demoted.--''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 08:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
“Dutch Schultz was ugly; he had been drinking and suddenly he had his gun out. The Dutchman wore his pistol under his vest, tucked inside his pants, right against his belly. One jerk at his vest and he had it in his hand. All in the same quick motion he swung it up, stuck it in Jules Martin’s mouth and pulled the trigger. It was as simple and undramatic as that – just one quick motion of the hand. The Dutchman did that murder just as casually as if he were picking his teeth.”<ref name="five families book"/>


==Pronunciation sound clip==
As Martin contorted on the floor, Schultz apologized to Davis for killing someone in front of him. When Davis later read a newspaper story about Martin's murder, he was shocked to find out that the body was found on a snow bank with a dozen stab wounds to the chest. When Davis asked Schultz about this, the boss dead-panned, “I cut his heart out.”
Another question: I would like to add the sound help (e.g. {{IPAudio|Cs-Leos Janacek.ogg}}) with Czech pronunciation to the Czech music related articles, but I simply don't know how. It may be useful improving, don't you think? Thanks. Have a nice day. [[User:Vejvančický|Vejvančický]] ([[User talk:Vejvančický|talk]]) 09:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


:I agree that this would be useful - but I don't know how to do it. I'll have a look and let you know if I find anything. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 10:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
==Tax troubles==
At the time of the Martin killing, Schultz was busy fighting a federal [[tax evasion]] case. In addition, U.S. Attorney [[Thomas Dewey]] had set his sights on convicting Schultz.
Schultz's lawyers convinced the judge that their client couldn't get a fair trial in New York City, so the judge moved it to a small town in rural [[Upstate New York]], [[Malone, New York|Malone]].<ref name="five families book"/>


::I came here to ask a question, got carried off looking for answer for this, and completely forgot what I was about to ask you... Oh well, I'll remember it. You can either use <code><nowiki>{{Audio-IPA|name of sound file|IPA notation|lang=Language}}</nowiki></code> or if you don't want the IPA you can use <code><nowiki>{{Audio|name of sound file|text to use as link to soundfile}}</nowiki></code>. Hope that helps! <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 21:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Looking to influence potential jurors, Schultz presented himself to the town as a country squire and good citizen. He donated cash to local businesses, gave toys to sick children and performed other such charitable deeds. The strategy worked. In the late summer of 1935, to everyone's surprise, Schultz was acquitted of tax evasion.<ref name="five families book"/>


:::Thanks to both of you, I´ll try to do something with it. Kleinzach, I´ve left a short remark with a question on Dvořák´s "featured sound" above. Best. [[User:Vejvančický|Vejvančický]] ([[User talk:Vejvančický|talk]]) 08:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Following his acquittal in the second trial, the outraged Mayor of New York, [[Fiorello La Guardia]], had issued an order that Schultz be arrested on sight should he return to New York.
As a result Schultz was forced to relocate his base of operations across the [[Hudson River]] to [[Newark, New Jersey]].


Is this O. K.?: ([[Jenůfa]]) {{Audio|Jenůfa.ogg|(Czech)}} I've already added it to the article. [[User:Vejvančický|Vejvančický]] ([[User talk:Vejvančický|talk]]) 22:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
As the legal and related costs of fighting his tax indictment continued to mount, Schultz had found it necessary to cut the commissions of his runners and controllers in order to bolster the "Arthur Flegenheimer Defense Fund". He reduced pay from around 50 percent, down to 10 percent for the runners and 5 percent for the controllers. However the Schultz's poverty plea fell on universally deaf ears, even after his associates began making threats of violence if any serious resistance developed. The runners and controllers hired a hall and held a mass protest meeting and declared a strike of sorts. Suddenly fewer and fewer bets were being delivered to the banks, reducing the vast policy inflow to a mere trickle as the Schultz's street soldiers lost their zeal. Schultz was forced to back down and restore the status quo, but he had already permanently damaged his relationships with his underlings.


:It doesn't work for me. I'll ask [[User:Stepshep|§hep]]. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 22:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Bo Weinberg, concerned that the drain of money from Schultz rackets into his legal defense fund was going to ruin the business for everyone else, sought advice from New Jersey mobster Longy Zwillman, who in turn put him in contact with [[Lucky Luciano|Charlie "Lucky" Luciano]]. Weinberg was hoping to make a deal whereby he would retain overall control and a percentage, but Luciano instead planned to divide the Schultz empire among his associates. All this was to come into effect in the event of the Dutchman being convicted.


::Perfect! When you click the word/icon it brings up the file to open on my computer. I don't have anything that plays .ogg though, need to download something. But when I click on info it brings me to the sound page and plays excellently. If you have IE I'm pretty sure there's a Java Script problem so .ogg's won't play, but it works in Firefox and others. Nice file btw, very crisp. <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 01:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Believing that Schultz would be convicted in the second trial, Luciano and his allies had implemented their plan to move in on his empire. Given the circumstances of his take-over of the Policy racket, the bad feeling created by his attempted pay cuts and the complicity of Weinberg, his number one enforcer, the take-over would have met with little resistance.
Schultz quickly sought a meeting with Charlie Luciano, his erstwhile colleague on the Commission, in order to 'clarify' the situation. Schultz even converted to [[Roman Catholicism]] to cozy up to Luciano.<ref name="five families book"/> Luciano placated Schultz with the explanation that they were just 'looking after the shop' while he was away, only to ensure that everything ran smoothly, and promised that control of his rackets would be returned.


:::[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]: if you look above you'll see two .ogg files (e.g. carnival overture, op. 92.ogg) that play ''on this page'' without downloading the file. IMO that's what we need for the pronunciation. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 07:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
In a weakened position and still under constant harassment from the authorities, Schultz was forced to accept Luciano's version of events. However, Luciano was well aware of the Schultz prior history and would have had no illusions about what the long term scenario would be - that as soon as he felt able, Schultz would launch an all out war to recover what he had lost and get revenge.{{fact|date=June 2008}}


::::Sorry, but that's not how articles work...pronunciations are always like that. If, for instance you have a song it would go under a media subheading with <code>{{multi-listen item|filename=Antonin Dvorak - carnival overture, op. 92.ogg|title=Carnival Overture, Op. 92|description=Performed by the Skidmore College Orchestra. Courtesy of [http://www.musopen.com Musopen]}}</code>
==The Death of Dutch Schultz==
::::But for it to be inline there is no play button. I was looking for an example and found [[Ohio]], which has the same layout. Maybe [[:Category:Audio templates|this category]] will help? Sorry. <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 16:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Still suspicious of Luciano after the Weinberg betrayal, gangland legend has it that Schultz soon went before an emergency meeting of the [[Commission (Mafia)]], and asked permission to kill his nemesis, U.S. Attorney [[Thomas Dewey]]. While some Commission members, including [[Albert Anastasia]] and [[Jacob Shapiro]], supported Schultz's proposal, the majority were against it on the basis that the full weight of the authorities would come down on them if they were to murder Dewey, and they voted unanimously against the proposal.<ref name="five families book"/> Bonanno family boss [[Joseph Bonanno]] thought the idea was "insane". Schultz was furious at the outcome of his Dewey suggestion; he accused the Commission of trying to steal his rackets and "feed him to the law." After Schultz left in a rage, the Commission decided finally to kill him in order to prevent the Dewey hit. [[Calabria]]n immigrant [[Albert Anastasia]] was ordered to arrange Schultz's assassination and assigned Jewish mobster [[Louis Lepke]] to "take care of it."<ref name="five families book"/>


:::::Someone was doing these short pronunciation clips before and they weren't configured like [[Ohio]]. I'll see if I can find an example. It simply isn't practical to expect people to download and then play them, it's too clunky, they won't do it. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 23:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
At 10:15 pm on [[October 23]], [[1935]], Schultz was killed at the Palace Chophouse in [[Newark, New Jersey]],<ref name="five families book"/> which he was using as his new headquarters. Two bodyguards and Schultz's accountant were also killed.<ref name="five families book"/>


I'd be more than happy to see it, I agree it's a bit different. But really if you have the right software all you do is click the link and click open. I'll keep an eye out as well. Best, <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 00:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Schultz was in the men's room when Charles Workman and [[Emanuel Weiss|Emanuel "Mendy" Weiss]], two [[hitman|hitmen]] working for [[Louis Buchalter|Lepke Buchalter]]'s [[Murder, Inc.]], entered the establishment. Accounts vary of what happened next.


:It's possible that my own configuration (Safari/Mac) has changed without my being aware of it. That might be the problem. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 00:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Workman and Weiss opened fire on the three men in the back room: [[Otto Berman]], Schultz's accountant; [[Abe Landau]], Schultz's chief [[henchman]]; and Schultz's bodyguard, [[Bernard Rosencrantz|Bernard "Lulu" Rosencrantz]]. Berman collapsed to the floor immediately after being shot. Rosencrantz and Landau returned fire against Weiss while Workman ducked into the bathroom.


::I'm beginning to think it isn't my configuration. In the case of ([[Jenůfa]]) {{Audio|Jenůfa.ogg|(Czech)}} I can get the sound if I click in info - but not if I use the sound symbol (which just start a download). --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 23:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Workman then entered the bathroom and found Schultz still at the urinal. Schultz was unarmed, except for a (3.5&nbsp;inch) "Chicago Spike"-style [[switchblade]] knife. Workman shot at Schultz twice, but only one bullet hit him, striking him slightly below the heart; the bullet ricocheted internally before exiting out the small of his back. Reports conflict over whether Workman stole Schultz's wallet or simply ran from the scene. Meanwhile, Weiss was still engaged in a gun battle with Rosencrantz and Landau, both of whom, despite suffering severe injuries were still chasing after and shooting at him. (Landau's [[carotid artery]] was severed by a bullet passing through his neck, whereas Rosencrantz was struck repeatedly at [[point blank range]] with [[buckshot|00 lead buckshot]]) Landau chased Weiss out of the restaurant and fired at the getaway car before collapsing of blood loss; Weiss ordered he and Workman's driver, "Piggy," to leave Workman behind. As of 2008, "Piggy" has never been positively identified, but may have been [[Seymour Schechter]]. In the dining area, Workman encountered Lulu Rosencrantz, whom he managed to dodge before fleeing the scene.


==[[A noite do castelo]]==
Shortly after Workman fled, Schultz staggered out of the bathroom, clutching his side. According to legend, Schultz did not want to be found dead on the floor of a men's room. He therefore picked up his hat, staggered back to his seat in the backroom, sat down, and slumped over the table. Schultz called for someone to get an ambulance; Rosencrantz pulled himself to his feet and walked to the bar, demanded that the bartender (who had hidden beneath the bar during the shootout) should give him change for a dollar.
I read the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (operas) and it reads:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(operas) The name of the opera should be in its original language]. There is NO EXCEPTION for Brazilian Portuguese. This is not spanish, French nor Italian, while the title is spelled with capital letters in the original language. Please respect the original language spelling!<br>
You have also over looked the rules under [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Opera#Operas:_original_language_titles Operas: original language titles]. Pease do not change the title to reflect the wrong spelling![[User:Kerrio|KerrBr]] ([[User talk:Kerrio|talk]]) 08:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


:Please check Grove (Béhague, Gerard (1992), 'Gomes, Joao' in ''The [[New Grove Dictionary of Opera]]'', ed. Stanley Sadie (London) ISBN 0-333-73432-7) and see the way it is capitalized there. WP doesn't capitalize foreign languages according to personal preferences but according to consistent editing styles. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 08:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
When the ambulance arrived, they determined that Landau (who had all but bled to death) and Rosencrantz (who was unconscious in the phone booth) were the most seriously wounded of the four men and had them transported to the hospital first; a call was placed to send a second ambulance for Schultz and Berman. There is a famous photograph of Schultz sitting at the table, suggesting that he had already died at the scene. The police gave Schultz [[brandy]] to try and dull his pain and attempted to interrogate him while waiting for the second ambulance; when it arrived, Schultz gave the paramedics $700 in cash to ensure that they gave him the best possible treatment.


::Thanks for the quick reply, Kleinzack! In regards to your comment, just above, please, see the discussion page for the article. I am not subscribing to my "personal preference" but to the conventional spelling system of a language. Thank you for your attention. [[User:Kerrio|KerrBr]] ([[User talk:Kerrio|talk]]) 23:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Otto Berman was the first to die at 2:20 that morning. At the hospital, Landau and Rosencrantz waited for surgery and refused to say anything to the police until Schultz arrived and gave them permission; even then, they provided the cops only minimal information. Abe Landau died eight hours after the shooting. Meanwhile, Rosencrantz was taken into surgery; the doctors, incredulous that Rosencrantz was still alive, were unsure of how to treat him. He survived for 29 hours after the shooting before succumbing to his injuries.


:::Wikipedia uses a ''particular'' (not necessarily the only) style of capitalization based on Grove (and the other print encyclopedias). We must be consistent and follow established WP practices - not so-called conventions. Using different systems at random is bad practice. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 23:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Before Schultz went to surgery, the gangster received the [[Last Rites]] from a [[Roman Catholic]] priest at his request; during his second trial, Schultz had decided to convert to Catholicism and had been studying its tenets ever since, convinced that [[Jesus]] had spared him prison time. Doctors performed surgery, but were unaware of the extent of damage done to his abdominal organs by the ricocheting bullet. They were also apparently unaware that the killer had used rusty bullets, to make sure that his victim would die from either a bullet wound or an infection. And so he did, of [[peritonitis]], 22 hours after being shot.


==Great Gatsby==
The only survivor of Dutch Shultz's crew was tough [[Irish-American]] mobster [[John M. Dunn]] who later became the [[brother-in-law]] of mobster [[Edward J. McGrath]] and a powerful member of the [[The Westies|Hells Kitchen Irish mob]].
If you read this article you will see that it has an admittedly brief section on the opera. Thisd is the only ref to the Gatsby article in wikipedia. Thanks [[User:Markhh|Markhh]] ([[User talk:Markhh|talk]]) 02:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:OK. Please go ahead and split off the opera from the novel. Then there will be no problem. I'd do it myself but the opera is obscure and I don't have the information. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 02:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC) P.S. The opera would be [[The Great Gatsby (opera)]]. It's a redirect but you can use it. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 02:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== Re: [[Classical music]]==
Charles Workman was eventually convicted of Schultz's murder and served 23 years in prison. Emmanuel Weiss was electrocuted in 1944 for an unrelated killing.


Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was using [[WP:HG|Huggle]] (an automated anti-vandalism tool) and I hit the wrong button for another article. When I tried to undo that article, your edit flashed up right before I hit the button and your edit got taken out. I immediately undid the edit, but apparently not fast enough..... My sincere apologies. <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 02:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
==Last words and posthumous events==
:umm... actually, that was from someone else that I accidentally hit as well earlier. Again, I'm sorry about that mistake. I was not intentional. <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 02:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:1 Dutch Schultz 800.jpg|thumb|300 px|The headstone of Dutch Schultz in [[Gate of Heaven Cemetery]] showing a 1901 birth year]]
::hmmm... as far as I can see, I reverted all the damage I did. I don't know who removed other stuff, but I undid the one edit (a mistake) I made. <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 02:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Schultz's [[The Last Words of Dutch Schultz|last words]], influenced by a high fever and large quantities of [[morphine]], were a strange stream-of-consciousness babble. They were taken down by a police [[stenographer]]. This includes the famous:
:FYI Kleinzach, I don't know if you've looked at the talk and other contributions of the IP that added [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Classical_music&diff=243797375&oldid=243796383 this] to Classical music. Part of my reaction to him is because I smell a vandal at worst, and a somewhat contentious poor-English-speaker at best. In any event, I'm not going to re-revert his edit (or do anything else to the article) for the moment, but I'm really suspicious. [[User:Magicpiano|Magicpiano]] ([[User talk:Magicpiano|talk]]) 02:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::IMO his original contribution was poor but not vandalism. However his reversion of all my edits (cleanup tag, moving of navbox and deletion of timeline) on the other hand was vandalistic. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 03:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Please see the talk page for classical music. I have decided that my work is to academic for wikipedia. So you can remove it. [[Special:Contributions/85.146.24.65|85.146.24.65]] ([[User talk:85.146.24.65|talk]]) 03:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


== Thank you. Presentations. ==
:A boy has never wept...nor dashed a thousand kim.


Hello, Kleinzach, Thanks for your warm welcome. I have now seen your interests. You seem to be selective and eclectic in your choices. That’s great! Are you coming from a musician background?
But the entire text (linked below) is much more rambling, for example:
:You can play jacks, and girls do that with a soft ball and do tricks with it.
:Oh, Oh, dog Biscuit, and when he is happy he doesn't get snappy.


In order to present myself, I would say that formerly in my life, I studied history of art and German at University of Geneva and was German teacher in high school. I know quite much about music: my murrain was [[Maria Stader]].
One of his last utterances was a seemingly random reference to "French Canadian bean soup". French Canadian Pea Soup is a popular soup recipe that is still produced as canned goods by many food companies.
My father was a film director, [[Emil-Edwin Reinert]]. This page is dedicated for him. I need to explain that my page in English is in construction. Could you help me to signal it?
Now I have chosen to evolve in the social field and do psychotherapy in loss and separation situations. Means I have little time…
I work on [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accueil] and [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite] for small projects and since short time except the same page: [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil-Edwin_Reinert] again in French! But each country has its rules. Sorry for my mistakes, it’s not my mother language.--[[User:Schnäggli|Schnäggli]] ([[User talk:Schnäggli|talk]]) 15:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


:Thanks for your reply. What is a 'murrain'? We don't have an 'under construction' tag for articles, because contributors are encouraged to prepare articles in a 'sandbox' - that is a userpage subpage. When the text is finished - or at least viable - we move to the article. I can make a sandbox for you if you like.
The surreal nature of Schultz's comments inspired a number of writers to devote works related to them. [[Beat Generation]] author [[William S. Burroughs]] published a screenplay in novel form entitled ''[[The Last Words of Dutch Schultz]]'' in the early 1970s, while [[Robert Shea]] and [[Robert Anton Wilson]] connected Schultz's words to a global [[Illuminati]]-related conspiracy, making them a major part of 1975's ''[[The Illuminatus! Trilogy]]''. (In Wilson and Shea's story, Schultz's ramblings are a coded message.)


:I'm trying to remember whether I've ever seen any of your father's films. Maybe not, unfortunately, but I'll look out for the name! P.S. My background is not really music, but I've had connections with the opera world for some time. Best. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 22:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
After Schultz's death, it was discovered that he and his wife had never gone through an official marriage ceremony and the possible existence of another wife emerged with the discovery of letters and pictures of another woman and children among his effects at the hotel he was staying at in Newark. This would never be resolved as his [[common law marriage|common law]] wife refused to talk about it and the mystery woman never came forward. Two other women also called at the morgue to receive his effects, but their identities were never known. Though estimated to be worth $7&nbsp;million when he died, no trace of his income was ever found.{{Fact|date=December 2007}}


== Bot work ==
By receiving [[Last Rites]] (despite his Jewish roots), Schultz was guaranteed interment in [[Gate of Heaven Cemetery]] in [[Hawthorne, New York|Hawthorne]] in [[Westchester County, New York]] although at the request of his [[Orthodox Jewish]] mother, Schultz's body was draped with a traditional [[Jewish]] prayer shawl, the [[talit]]. [http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/mob_bosses/schultz/1935_7.html]


Sorry my response has taken so long. I'd be more than glad to get to work! You'll just have to remind me of the rules again, this is the stuff where there are templates to avoid correct? <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
===The Dutchman's lost treasure===
Shortly before his death, fearing that he would be incarcerated due to Dewey's efforts, Schultz commissioned the construction of a special air-tight, waterproof [[safe]], into which he placed $7&nbsp;million [[United States Dollars|USD]] in cash and [[bonds]]. Schultz and Rosencrantz then drove the safe to an undisclosed location somewhere in upstate New York and buried it. At the time of his death, the safe was still interred; as no evidence existed to indicate that either Schultz or Rosencrantz had ever revealed the location of the safe to anyone, the exact place where the safe was buried died with both men. Gangland lore held that Schultz's enemies--including Lucky Luciano--spent the remainder of their lives searching for the safe; [[as of 2007]], the safe has never been recovered.<ref>{{imdb title|0357601|Digging for Dutch: The Search for the Lost Treasure of Dutch Schultz (2001)}}</ref>


PS, I still can't remember what I was going to ask you. hmm <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Annually, treasure hunters meet in the [[Catskills]] to search for the safe. One such congregation was documented in the [[documentary film]] ''Digging for Dutch: The Search for the Lost Treasure of Dutch Schultz.''


:Okay, maybe it's just because it's late.. but I'm a bit confused. (sorry) Do you want me to tag articles as stubs with only [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Stubs|these]] tags or any tag in the whole wide wiki? <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 03:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
==In popular culture==
Schultz's life has been the basis of numerous novels and feature films, most of which have taken substantial dramatic license with the facts, such as the ''[[The Last Words of Dutch Schultz]]'', a novel-cum-screenplay by [[William S. Burroughs]]. The most famous of these works is novelist [[E.L. Doctorow]]'s ''[[Billy Bathgate]]'', a [[PEN/Faulkner Award]] winning novel which dramatizes the last three months of Schultz's life, as seen through the eyes of a young boy who briefly becomes his protégé. In the 1991 [[Billy Bathgate (film)|film adaptation]] of the book, Schultz is played by [[Dustin Hoffman]].
* In 1984, [[Francis Ford Coppola]]'s ''[[The Cotton Club (film)|The Cotton Club]]'' featured Shultz, played by [[James Remar]]. The film is a fictional retelling of the Harlem rackets and the relationship between Dutch and [[Owney Madden]], owner of the [[Cotton Club (New York City)|Cotton Club]], played by [[Bob Hoskins]]. One of the final scenes in the film shows the shootout at the Chophouse.
* The 1997 film ''[[Hoodlum (film)|Hoodlum]]'' centers upon Harlem numbers kingpin [[Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson]] during Schultz's time there, and the bloody turf war fought between the two men before Schultz's death. Johnson is played by [[Laurence Fishburne]], Schultz by [[Tim Roth]]. The film is only very loosely based on the real Dutch Schultz, and several incidents involving him are largely fictionalized (such as Schultz being shot during broad daylight in the bathroom of a deserted restaurant by one of his best friends).
* On television, Schultz was portrayed by [[Lawrence Dobkin]] on three episodes of the 1959-1963 ABC crime drama ''[[The Untouchables (1959 TV series)|The Untouchables]]'' (bringing [[Eliot Ness]] into the story, contrary to historical fact). [[John Dennis]] portrayed the him on ten episodes of the 1959-1961 [[NBC]] crime drama ''The Lawless Years''. Both shows gave highly fictitious accounts of Schultz's career.
*In music, [[Coil (band)|Coil]]'s "Circles of Mania" from the 1986 album ''[[Horse Rotorvator]]'' references Schultz's death directly; the incident is also hinted at in the song's delivery - an increasingly hysterical, stream-of consciousness rant.
* In music, during live shows, Scott Schultz from [http://www.happyhourmusic.com Happy Hour] ([[Grand Rapids, Michigan]]), often summons the power of Dutch Schultz, a possible ancestor.
* In music, the [[avant-garde]] [[jazz-rock]] band Baseball Bat performed and recorded live the free-form [[opera]] "A Boy Has Never Wept, Nor Dashed a Thousand Kim" (with libretto by historian and author Scott Allen Nollen) in 1990.
* In music, ''The True Last Words of Dutch Schultz'' (1994) , a new music opera. Collaboration of director and writer Valeria Vasilevski and composer [[Eric Salzman]], featuring co-creator [[Theo Bleckmann]] as Dutch Schultz for a tour of opera houses throughout the [[Netherlands]]. Dutch Schultz was played by [[Dirk Weiler]] in the American Concert premiere of the piece at [[Symphony Space]], [[New York]] in May 2007. It was directed by Grethe Barrett Holby. This was the first time the opera was performed in the United States.
* In the ''[[Illuminatus!]]'' novels, Schultz' assassination is a key event, tying together the characters of Robert Putney Drake, Don Federico Maldonado, [[John Dillinger]], and Dr. Charles Mocenigo (whose father was a fictional third assassin). Schultz's last words are portrayed as a series of coded messages revealing [[Illuminati]] secrets; Drake, who had been studying the transcript for a psychology class, deciphers their hidden meaning and uses them to leverage himself into a position of power in both the Illuminati and organized crime.


::Sounds good. Should be able to start this weekend. <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 19:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
==References==
{{reflist}}


== Thanks to your post, Kleinzach! ==
==External links==
{{wikiquote}}
* [http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/archives/dutch.html The Last Words of Dutch Schultz ]
* [http://www.killthedutchman.net/ ''Kill the Dutchman!: The Story of Dutch Schultz''] by Paul Sann
* [http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/flegenheimer.htm ''FBI files on Arthur Flegenheimer''] (FBI's Freedom of Information Archive)
* [http://www.patrickdowney.com/profile-dutch.html Gangster City Profiles: Dutch Schultz]
* [http://www.j-grit.com/criminals-dutch-schultz.html Dutch Schultz Biography] at [http://www.j-grit.com J-Grit: The Internet Index of Tough Jews]


'''Thanks to your post, dear Kleinzach!'''
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First of all, thanks for your small contribution on my page. '''''Murraine''''' was a mistake. I mean my godmother was Maria Stader and told you this in order to explain my own musician past and my musical interests.
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I tried, but not very successfully to use your guidelines… and finished the filmography. Concerning the biography of my father, it will take much more time because like you I'm short of time and also didn’t yet finished the French biography. Now a have to concentred of my profession a will be in contact again with you - if God will - in a few months. Is my contribution quite ok, or could you correct my mistakes on my fist page on Wikipedia in English??? Tell me all that, please,--[[User:Schnäggli|Schnäggli]] ([[User talk:Schnäggli|talk]]) 14:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:I've done a general edit of the article. In particular I've removed a lot of the red links, assuming you are not going to write articles on all of them! Perhaps you will be expanding the biography? Also more references would be helpful. I must see whether I can find any of the films. Which do you recommend? Best. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 22:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Composers assessments ==
[[de:Dutch Schultz]]

[[fr:Dutch Schultz]]
I saw your note on my talk page. Say more about what you have in mind. (I'm watching here.) ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 01:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
[[it:Dutch Schultz]]

[[ja:ダッチ・シュルツ]]
:I'd like to propose written rather than nominal assessments, see for example: [[Talk:Siegfried Wagner/Comments]], [[Talk:Lohengrin (opera)/Comments]], [[Talk:Tristan und Isolde/Comments]].
[[sv:Dutch Schultz]]

:When we did a test of the Wagner Project we found it best to work in a team of three (third person to decide if the first two disagreed), using a points system (see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Richard_Wagner/Assessment#Points_system_for_articles]]) - also that assessors should ''not'' be contributors to the articles they assess (that can be a disaster).

:I won't do any assessments myself, but I'll give any necessary technical backing. How does that sound to you? ''P.S. Nice signature!'' --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 05:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

::One thing I should add: there is a summary of the current position of the Composers Project here: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Composers/Assessment]]. The idea would be to move forward from that position, but not attempt more than would be practical. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 06:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical guitar]] ==

Noticed that the classical guitar project has gone to sleep and that you had archived the page. Earlier, it had been discussed amongst the WP:GUITAR project that the classical guitar project be merged into our ranks and re-assigned as a task force. It was a suggestion that made sense but the ones who suggested it, along with myself, have been splintered as of late as far as Wikipedia goes. That project is dead. But perhaps may find life again if it were linked or re-directed to the much more active Guitarist project. I am not sure of the protocol involved with this. Or if it is even required and that a taskforce can just be created from scratch and the members (former) of the Classical guitar project who are still active on Wikipedia can be invited to join? Any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful. Thanks, cheers and take care! [[User:Anger22|Anger22]] <small> ([[User talk:Anger22|Talk 2 22]])</small> 01:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for your note. I'm delighted to help with whatever solution you like to suggest. Consolidating everything into one project would make sense. I've just marked [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists]] as inactive - but you can take this notice off if you are going to revive it. (One possibility might be to put a note on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Music|the Music Project]] to tell people about what you are doing.) --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 01:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::I untagged it. One of the things about the Guitarist project is that many of the editors that have been involved right from the start, like me, tend to talk to one another directly rather than bring conversations to the project page. Which is not what we should do, obviously, but some of us are so familar with one another that we know just which person to pick on for support on certain articles. I update the project sub-pages every now and then. And I know people read them because they email me about certain parts. I know one thing. I am WAY overdue for a project newsletter. Lately my work has had me jumping around the globe so much I hardly know which airport I am in. But whenever I get planted back at home I always take a look around the project and its active members to see whats up. Cheers! [[User:Anger22|Anger22]] <small> ([[User talk:Anger22|Talk 2 22]])</small> 01:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I've also moved the merge tag from Classical Music to Guitarists. Pls remove that as and when you have set up a task force or whatever. Best. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 01:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Merci, Kleinzach ==

An immense thank you, dear Kleinzach, thanks to you, and so promptly, it looks really perfect!!! This is the famous international solidarity of the Wikipedia users that I feel by looking at the page of my father. Now I have to go on with my profession and in any case will be back on previous holidays. Of course, I will contact you, and tell me then if you little time again to correct and modify my text. By, by Kleinzach and by, by England… “See you. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Schnäggli|Schnäggli]] ([[User talk:Schnäggli|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Schnäggli|contribs]]) 07:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Not at all - by the way, I'm in Japan . . . --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 08:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[Ziehrer]] response ==

Hello, Kleinzach. I would like to make articles out of the stubs, but my problem is that I can't find any information on them. I just wrote down whatever I could find -- not a lot, as you can see. So I guess that no, I won't (and can't) make articles out of them. Best regards! [[User:Tempodivalse|Tempodivalse]] ([[User talk:Tempodivalse|talk]]) 14:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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Dvořák media files

Hi again. Media files may be of course a great improving of the articles, however, I have some reservations to the recordings on Dvořák's page:

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This first one is absolutely unintelligible, the singer's voice is blurred, and whole recording gives us not good idea of Dvořák's cycle. However, isn't it better than nothing??

No. We've discussed this problem before. If the recording is not good, then IMO we should not use it. Unfortunately this has been made a 'featured sound'. If you want to get it deleted from the article and downgraded I'd be happy to review it. --Kleinzach 10:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Huh, a featured sound... You're right, I've found it. 100% support, but any musicological point of view. One opinion: ...very relaxing & good quality on the sound... It's not very relaxing for me to listen to it. The piano part is not bad, I have concerns particularly to the singer, as I described above. I've missed it... I think it's maybe good to have it here, but as one of the best media files on wikipedia?? In that case, almost every sound may be a featured sound:) What do you think about this recording? Thanks Vejvančický (talk) 17:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
The recording quality is poor. It's distorted. (I haven't listen to all of it.) Musically it may be OK - but you will be a better judge of this. I don't know the work, the singer or have any Czech. --Kleinzach 09:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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The second representation of Dvořák's style is also rather amateur, a raw sound quality, bad dynamics and tuning... I'm not a critic, just a music fan, but I think, this is not really representative.

I agree I've deleted it from the Dvořák page. --Kleinzach 10:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I have to admit, I often rather don't play the audio files, since the sound quality, as well as quality of the performance are bad. On the other hand, I know, it's not easy to find available recordings of better quality.

Where did you leave your 'remark'? --Kleinzach 09:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry: ...a featured sound... You're right, I've found it. 100% support, but any musicological point of view. One opinion: ...very relaxing & good quality on the sound... It's not very relaxing for me to listen to it. The piano part is not bad, I have concerns particularly to the singer, as I described above. I've missed it... I think it's maybe good to have it here, but as one of the best media files on wikipedia?? In that case, almost every sound may be a featured sound:)
That "remark" is my opinion on the strange assessment of some featured sounds. We have complicated and very strict assessment of good and featured articles. It´s surprising for me, that bad and not appropriate recording is as well "featured". And moreover, its assessment is not sufficient. I´ll try to participate more actively in that area. Unfortunately, I contribute from several computers, and I cannot play the media files on my computer at this very moment. Vejvančický (talk) 07:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, now I understand - you just left your opinion here - nowhere else. Would you like to add it to Image talk:Ten Biblical Songs by Antonin Dvorak.ogg? We can then attempt to get it demoted.--Kleinzach 08:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation sound clip

Another question: I would like to add the sound help (e.g. {{{2}}}ⓘ) with Czech pronunciation to the Czech music related articles, but I simply don't know how. It may be useful improving, don't you think? Thanks. Have a nice day. Vejvančický (talk) 09:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this would be useful - but I don't know how to do it. I'll have a look and let you know if I find anything. --Kleinzach 10:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I came here to ask a question, got carried off looking for answer for this, and completely forgot what I was about to ask you... Oh well, I'll remember it. You can either use {{Audio-IPA|name of sound file|IPA notation|lang=Language}} or if you don't want the IPA you can use {{Audio|name of sound file|text to use as link to soundfile}}. Hope that helps! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you, I´ll try to do something with it. Kleinzach, I´ve left a short remark with a question on Dvořák´s "featured sound" above. Best. Vejvančický (talk) 08:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this O. K.?: (Jenůfa) (Czech)ⓘ I've already added it to the article. Vejvančický (talk) 22:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't work for me. I'll ask §hep. --Kleinzach 22:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Perfect! When you click the word/icon it brings up the file to open on my computer. I don't have anything that plays .ogg though, need to download something. But when I click on info it brings me to the sound page and plays excellently. If you have IE I'm pretty sure there's a Java Script problem so .ogg's won't play, but it works in Firefox and others. Nice file btw, very crisp. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 01:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
§hep: if you look above you'll see two .ogg files (e.g. carnival overture, op. 92.ogg) that play on this page without downloading the file. IMO that's what we need for the pronunciation. --Kleinzach 07:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but that's not how articles work...pronunciations are always like that. If, for instance you have a song it would go under a media subheading with Template:Multi-listen item
But for it to be inline there is no play button. I was looking for an example and found Ohio, which has the same layout. Maybe this category will help? Sorry. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Someone was doing these short pronunciation clips before and they weren't configured like Ohio. I'll see if I can find an example. It simply isn't practical to expect people to download and then play them, it's too clunky, they won't do it. --Kleinzach 23:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd be more than happy to see it, I agree it's a bit different. But really if you have the right software all you do is click the link and click open. I'll keep an eye out as well. Best, §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

It's possible that my own configuration (Safari/Mac) has changed without my being aware of it. That might be the problem. --Kleinzach 00:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm beginning to think it isn't my configuration. In the case of (Jenůfa) (Czech)ⓘ I can get the sound if I click in info - but not if I use the sound symbol (which just start a download). --Kleinzach 23:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

A noite do castelo

I read the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (operas) and it reads: The name of the opera should be in its original language. There is NO EXCEPTION for Brazilian Portuguese. This is not spanish, French nor Italian, while the title is spelled with capital letters in the original language. Please respect the original language spelling!
You have also over looked the rules under Operas: original language titles. Pease do not change the title to reflect the wrong spelling!KerrBr (talk) 08:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Please check Grove (Béhague, Gerard (1992), 'Gomes, Joao' in The New Grove Dictionary of Opera, ed. Stanley Sadie (London) ISBN 0-333-73432-7) and see the way it is capitalized there. WP doesn't capitalize foreign languages according to personal preferences but according to consistent editing styles. --Kleinzach 08:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply, Kleinzack! In regards to your comment, just above, please, see the discussion page for the article. I am not subscribing to my "personal preference" but to the conventional spelling system of a language. Thank you for your attention. KerrBr (talk) 23:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia uses a particular (not necessarily the only) style of capitalization based on Grove (and the other print encyclopedias). We must be consistent and follow established WP practices - not so-called conventions. Using different systems at random is bad practice. --Kleinzach 23:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Great Gatsby

If you read this article you will see that it has an admittedly brief section on the opera. Thisd is the only ref to the Gatsby article in wikipedia. Thanks Markhh (talk) 02:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

OK. Please go ahead and split off the opera from the novel. Then there will be no problem. I'd do it myself but the opera is obscure and I don't have the information. --Kleinzach 02:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC) P.S. The opera would be The Great Gatsby (opera). It's a redirect but you can use it. --Kleinzach 02:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Classical music

Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was using Huggle (an automated anti-vandalism tool) and I hit the wrong button for another article. When I tried to undo that article, your edit flashed up right before I hit the button and your edit got taken out. I immediately undid the edit, but apparently not fast enough..... My sincere apologies. Thingg⊕⊗ 02:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

umm... actually, that was from someone else that I accidentally hit as well earlier. Again, I'm sorry about that mistake. I was not intentional. Thingg⊕⊗ 02:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
hmmm... as far as I can see, I reverted all the damage I did. I don't know who removed other stuff, but I undid the one edit (a mistake) I made. Thingg⊕⊗ 02:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
FYI Kleinzach, I don't know if you've looked at the talk and other contributions of the IP that added this to Classical music. Part of my reaction to him is because I smell a vandal at worst, and a somewhat contentious poor-English-speaker at best. In any event, I'm not going to re-revert his edit (or do anything else to the article) for the moment, but I'm really suspicious. Magicpiano (talk) 02:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
IMO his original contribution was poor but not vandalism. However his reversion of all my edits (cleanup tag, moving of navbox and deletion of timeline) on the other hand was vandalistic. --Kleinzach 03:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Please see the talk page for classical music. I have decided that my work is to academic for wikipedia. So you can remove it. 85.146.24.65 (talk) 03:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Presentations.

Hello, Kleinzach, Thanks for your warm welcome. I have now seen your interests. You seem to be selective and eclectic in your choices. That’s great! Are you coming from a musician background?

In order to present myself, I would say that formerly in my life, I studied history of art and German at University of Geneva and was German teacher in high school. I know quite much about music: my murrain was Maria Stader. My father was a film director, Emil-Edwin Reinert. This page is dedicated for him. I need to explain that my page in English is in construction. Could you help me to signal it? Now I have chosen to evolve in the social field and do psychotherapy in loss and separation situations. Means I have little time… I work on [1] and [2] for small projects and since short time except the same page: [3] again in French! But each country has its rules. Sorry for my mistakes, it’s not my mother language.--Schnäggli (talk) 15:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. What is a 'murrain'? We don't have an 'under construction' tag for articles, because contributors are encouraged to prepare articles in a 'sandbox' - that is a userpage subpage. When the text is finished - or at least viable - we move to the article. I can make a sandbox for you if you like.
I'm trying to remember whether I've ever seen any of your father's films. Maybe not, unfortunately, but I'll look out for the name! P.S. My background is not really music, but I've had connections with the opera world for some time. Best. --Kleinzach 22:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Bot work

Sorry my response has taken so long. I'd be more than glad to get to work! You'll just have to remind me of the rules again, this is the stuff where there are templates to avoid correct? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

PS, I still can't remember what I was going to ask you. hmm §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, maybe it's just because it's late.. but I'm a bit confused. (sorry) Do you want me to tag articles as stubs with only these tags or any tag in the whole wide wiki? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. Should be able to start this weekend. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to your post, Kleinzach!

Thanks to your post, dear Kleinzach! First of all, thanks for your small contribution on my page. Murraine was a mistake. I mean my godmother was Maria Stader and told you this in order to explain my own musician past and my musical interests. I tried, but not very successfully to use your guidelines… and finished the filmography. Concerning the biography of my father, it will take much more time because like you I'm short of time and also didn’t yet finished the French biography. Now a have to concentred of my profession a will be in contact again with you - if God will - in a few months. Is my contribution quite ok, or could you correct my mistakes on my fist page on Wikipedia in English??? Tell me all that, please,--Schnäggli (talk) 14:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I've done a general edit of the article. In particular I've removed a lot of the red links, assuming you are not going to write articles on all of them! Perhaps you will be expanding the biography? Also more references would be helpful. I must see whether I can find any of the films. Which do you recommend? Best. --Kleinzach 22:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Composers assessments

I saw your note on my talk page. Say more about what you have in mind. (I'm watching here.) Magic♪piano 01:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to propose written rather than nominal assessments, see for example: Talk:Siegfried Wagner/Comments, Talk:Lohengrin (opera)/Comments, Talk:Tristan und Isolde/Comments.
When we did a test of the Wagner Project we found it best to work in a team of three (third person to decide if the first two disagreed), using a points system (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Richard_Wagner/Assessment#Points_system_for_articles) - also that assessors should not be contributors to the articles they assess (that can be a disaster).
I won't do any assessments myself, but I'll give any necessary technical backing. How does that sound to you? P.S. Nice signature! --Kleinzach 05:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
One thing I should add: there is a summary of the current position of the Composers Project here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Composers/Assessment. The idea would be to move forward from that position, but not attempt more than would be practical. --Kleinzach 06:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical guitar

Noticed that the classical guitar project has gone to sleep and that you had archived the page. Earlier, it had been discussed amongst the WP:GUITAR project that the classical guitar project be merged into our ranks and re-assigned as a task force. It was a suggestion that made sense but the ones who suggested it, along with myself, have been splintered as of late as far as Wikipedia goes. That project is dead. But perhaps may find life again if it were linked or re-directed to the much more active Guitarist project. I am not sure of the protocol involved with this. Or if it is even required and that a taskforce can just be created from scratch and the members (former) of the Classical guitar project who are still active on Wikipedia can be invited to join? Any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful. Thanks, cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I'm delighted to help with whatever solution you like to suggest. Consolidating everything into one project would make sense. I've just marked Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists as inactive - but you can take this notice off if you are going to revive it. (One possibility might be to put a note on the the Music Project to tell people about what you are doing.) --Kleinzach 01:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I untagged it. One of the things about the Guitarist project is that many of the editors that have been involved right from the start, like me, tend to talk to one another directly rather than bring conversations to the project page. Which is not what we should do, obviously, but some of us are so familar with one another that we know just which person to pick on for support on certain articles. I update the project sub-pages every now and then. And I know people read them because they email me about certain parts. I know one thing. I am WAY overdue for a project newsletter. Lately my work has had me jumping around the globe so much I hardly know which airport I am in. But whenever I get planted back at home I always take a look around the project and its active members to see whats up. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I've also moved the merge tag from Classical Music to Guitarists. Pls remove that as and when you have set up a task force or whatever. Best. --Kleinzach 01:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Merci, Kleinzach

An immense thank you, dear Kleinzach, thanks to you, and so promptly, it looks really perfect!!! This is the famous international solidarity of the Wikipedia users that I feel by looking at the page of my father. Now I have to go on with my profession and in any case will be back on previous holidays. Of course, I will contact you, and tell me then if you little time again to correct and modify my text. By, by Kleinzach and by, by England… “See you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnäggli (talk • contribs) 07:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Not at all - by the way, I'm in Japan . . . --Kleinzach 08:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Ziehrer response

Hello, Kleinzach. I would like to make articles out of the stubs, but my problem is that I can't find any information on them. I just wrote down whatever I could find -- not a lot, as you can see. So I guess that no, I won't (and can't) make articles out of them. Best regards! Tempodivalse (talk) 14:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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