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This character does not establish notability independent of SNL. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 14:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Merge into one of t he Saturday Night Live character lists, or else to Belushi. But this is not the way to do it--individual characters selected on no particular system. Some of the characters there have separate articles, some are redirected to the actor performing them, and I cannot perceive any particular pattern. Some rational basis should be found for this besides the accident of sourcing. DGG (talk) 16:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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-'''Bob Grant''', usually known as  (born '''Robert St Clair Grant''' [[14 April]], [[1932]] &ndash; [[8 November]], [[2003]]) was an English [[actor]], mainly known for playing Jack Harper in ''[[On The Buses]]''.
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-He was born in [[Hammersmith]], [[west London]], the son of Albert George Grant and Florence Grant (née Burston).
+This character does not establish [[WP:N|notability]] independent of SNL. Without coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable third party sources]], it is just made up of unnecessary [[WP:NOT#PLOT|plot summary]] and [[WP:OR|original research]]. [[User:TTN|TTN]] ([[User talk:TTN|talk]]) 14:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' into  one of t he Saturday Night Live character lists, or else to Belushi. But this is not the way to do it--individual characters selected on no particular system. Some of the characters there have separate articles, some are redirected to the actor performing them, and I cannot perceive any particular pattern. Some rational  basis should be found for this besides the accident of sourcing. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 16:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-==Early career==
-He trained as an actor at the [[Royal Academy of Dramatic Art]], working in his spare time as a frozen food salesman and also (interestingly, in view of his later career) as a bus conductor. After doing [[National Service]] in the [[Royal Artillery]], he made his stage debut in 1952 as Sydney in ''[[Worm's Eye View]]'' at the Court Royal, [[Horsham]].
-His first London appearance was in ''[[The Good Soldier Schweik]]'' at the [[Duke of York's Theatre]] in 1956, and he spent several years at the [[Theatre Royal Stratford East]] before getting the lead role in the musical ''[[Blitz!]]'' at the [[Adelphi Theatre]] in the West End for two years.  In 1964 he appeared at the [[Piccadilly Theatre]] in ''[[Instant Marriage]]'', a musical farce, for which he wrote book and lyrics, with music by [[Laurie Holloway]].
-He had by now started to make film appearances, including ''[[Sparrers Can't Sing|Sparrows Can’t Sing]]'' (1963), the screen version of a play he had earlier acted in at Stratford, and the Beatles film ''[[Help! (film)|Help!]]'' (1965). He returned to the Theatre Royal, Stratford, in 1967, and starred in the satirical play ''[[Prime Minister parodies (Private Eye)#Harold Wilson: Mrs. Wilson's Diary|Mrs Wilson’s Diary]]'' as [[George Brown, Baron George-Brown|George Brown]], the [[Foreign Secretary]] in [[Harold Wilson]]’s Labour government – this play later transferred to the West End. When the real-life Brown resigned in 1968, Grant was so concerned that his unflattering portrayal of him as a drunk may have contributed to his resignation that he offered to stand down from the part.
-== ''On the Buses'' ==
-Then came the part for which he is best remembered, the role of the randy bus conductor Jack Harper in the television comedy ''[[On the Buses]]'', which ran for 74 episodes between 1969 and 1973. Although the critics thought it was a vulgar brand of comedy, it was an instant success with the viewers, and led to three feature films ''On the Buses'' (1971), ''Mutiny On the Buses'' (1972) and ''Holiday On the Buses'' (1973), the first of which was more successful in the UK than the [[James Bond|Bond]] film of that year. The series was the peak of his career; when Grant married for the third time in 1971 there were huge crowds outside the register office and the couple had to abandon their hired [[Rolls-Royce car|Rolls-Royce]] and walk to the reception. A double-decker bus had been provided for the guests, but they had to walk as well.
-== Death ==
-When ''On the Buses'' finished, Grant toured Australia in the farce ''[[No Sex Please, We're British]]'', and continued to appear in musicals and pantomimes. By the 1980s work was drying up. In 1987 he disappeared from his home in [[Leicestershire]] for five days; it later emerged that he had gone to [[Dublin]] intending to kill himself. He only returned after a public appeal from his wife. In 1995 he attempted suicide again, and was treated for [[carbon monoxide poisoning]] after being found slumped over the wheel of a car filled with exhaust fumes.  Grant then moved with his wife to Twyning, a village near [[Tewkesbury]] in [[Gloucestershire]], and after that he was found dead after a similar incident. He was 71 years old.
-==References==
-*Hayward, Anthony [http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/article37498.ece "Bob Grant (obituary)"], 21 Nov. 2003. Accessed 14 Apr. 2007.
-==External links==
-*{{imdb name|id=0335279|name=Bob Grant}} {{UK}}
-{{Lifetime| 1932 | 2003 |Grant, Bob}}
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-[[Category:English television actors]]
-[[Category:English stage actors]]
-[[Category:People from Hammersmith]]
-[[Category:Suicides by carbon monoxide poisoning]]
-[[Category:Suicides in England]]
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