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{{Football player infobox
| playername = Barry Fuller
| image =
| fullname = Barry Marc Fuller
| nickname =
| dateofbirth = {{birth date and age|1984|8|25}}
| cityofbirth = [[Ashford, Kent|Ashford]]
| countryofbirth = [[England]]
| height =
| currentclub = [[Gillingham F.C.|Gillingham]]
| clubnumber = 2
| position = [[Defender (football)|Defender]]
| youthyears =
| youthclubs =
| years = 2004&ndash;2006<br>2006<br>2006&ndash;2008<br>2008&ndash;
| clubs = [[Charlton Athletic F.C.|Charlton Athletic]]<br>→ [[Barnet F.C.|Barnet]] (loan)<br>[[Stevenage Borough F.C.|Stevenage Borough]]<br>[[Gillingham F.C.|Gillingham]]
| caps(goals) = {{0}}0 (0)<br>15 (1)<br> 61 (1)<br>19(0)
| nationalyears = 2007&ndash;
| nationalteam = [[England C]]
| nationalcaps(goals) = {{0}}1 (0)
| pcupdate = 4 October 2008 (UTC)
| ntupdate =
}}
'''Barry Marc Fuller''' (born [[August 25]], [[1984]] in [[Ashford, Kent]]) is an [[England|English]] [[football (soccer)|footballer]], currently playing for [[Gillingham F.C.|Gillingham]] as a defender, favoured as right-back.


== Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for India ==
He joined Charlton as an apprentice in the [[2004-05 in English football|2004/05]] season, but did not feature in any games for the team. In January [[2005-06 in English football|2006]] he joined [[Barnet F.C.|Barnet]] on loan. Fuller spent 18 months at [[Stevenage Borough]] after signing a contract in July 2006.


[[Wikipedia:Release Version|Wikipedia 0.7]] is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team]] has made an [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/ automated selection of articles for Version 0.7].
On [[January 28]] [[2008]], Fuller signed, alongside team mate [[Stuart Lewis]], for Gillingham, both agreeing 2 year contracts, reuniting with former Stevenage manager [[Mark Stimson]].


We would like to ask you to review the [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/India.s0.html articles selected from this project]. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at [[Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7]]. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at [[Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations]].
Fuller made his debut for [[Gillingham F.C.|Gillingham]] in the 2-0 away defeat to [[Tranmere Rovers F.C.|Tranmere Rovers]] on [[January 29]] [[2008]], and became the club captain the following October.[http://www.gillinghamfootballclub.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10416~1415953,00.html]


A [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/cgi-bin/problems.cgi list of selected articles with cleanup tags], sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with [[Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Copyediting|copyediting requests]], although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.
==Honours==
*[[FA Trophy]]: 2007


We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at [[User:SelectionBot/0.7/I-1|this project's subpage]] of [[User:SelectionBot/0.7]]. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, [[User:SelectionBot|SelectionBot]] 22:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
==External links==
*[http://www.gillinghamfootballclub.com/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10416~33377,00.html Barry Fuller player profile] at gillinghamfootballclub.com
*[http://www.barnetfc.com/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10431~33377,00.html Barry Fuller player profile] at barnetfc.com
*[http://www.cafc.co.uk/playerdisplay.ink?skip=12&season=2005/2006 Barry Fuller player profile] at cafc.co.uk
*{{soccerbase|id=38853|name=Barry Fuller}}


:Importance of many articles shown as '''Unknown''' in the Selected articles list. Should they be assigned appropriate importance manually? Examples are:
::* B. R. Ambedkar, Rajiv Gandhi, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Edmund Hillary
::* Kālī, Indus River, Marathi language, Tabla
::* Mohenjo-daro, Hampi, Koh-i-Noor, Khajuraho, Ellora Caves, History of Buddhism
::* Asian Elephant, King Cobra
:to name a few from the list. [[User:VasuVR|VasuVR]] ([[User talk:VasuVR|talk]]) 08:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, rating is manually done. [[user:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">=Nichalp</font>]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">«Talk»=</font>]] 09:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::I personally think that some of these articles are not up to scratch, but I'm going to have little time to go through all of them myself. I also think that some good work has not been included and probably could be. For this reason, if any user feels an article has been left out and shouldn't be left, or that one of those listed should be left out rather than included, please leave a note of it here with the reason why you think it should/shouldn't be. [[User:Ncmvocalist|Ncmvocalist]] ([[User talk:Ncmvocalist|talk]]) 09:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


:::Some view points on the list...
{{Gillingham F.C. squad}}
:::* [[Rolling Stone]] ([[Talk:Rolling Stone|talk]]): a global magazine - probably only magazine found in the Wikiproject India list that was selected. Can be dropped from Wikiproject India's selection. It may still make 0.7 version due to other projects/ criteria, that is fine.
:::* [[Julie Christie]]: born in India - no other information related to India in the article.
:::* Many many articles on latest actors, actresses, latest movies are included, while artists and achievers in other fields, areas and eras seem to be very less. What can be done to give a better balance?
:::Hope we can improve the list appropriately... [[User:VasuVR|VasuVR]] ([[User talk:VasuVR|talk]]) 15:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What can be done to give a better balance? Put forward suggestions of specific articles that can be included/excluded to give that balance. :) [[User:Ncmvocalist|Ncmvocalist]] ([[User talk:Ncmvocalist|talk]]) 01:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmmm... The few articles that I thought should be on the list seem to require copy editing, citations, expansion or such stuff. Anyway, here are some thoughts for additions.
:*Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, Vande Mataram, Mahābhārata
:*Business stalwarts like JRD Tata, GD Birla
:*Hindustani classical music, Bismillah Khan, Amjad Ali Khan, Veena
:*Yajurveda, Samaveda and Atharvaveda
:Above is mentioned keeping in view the peer articles are selected.
:Also the following could be dropped from list.
:*''Srivijaya'' article (kingdom in Indonesia), ''Khan (title)'' article
:Comparing peers, the following may need to be there, but quality needs improvement
:*Rahul Dravid, Saurav Ganguly
:These comments are with respect to Wikiproject India selection - but if the same articles that are suggested for drop are also selected in another project's criteria, then so be it. Also, I went through the process/procedure for nomination, review, etc. Based on what I read there, it is probably going to be difficult to get some of the above articles for the test release 0.7.
:I guess modern people, events and related information are well documented due to Computer age, Internet collaboration and such. Hence there is going to be such imbalance of information, links, hits, etc... Hope by 1.0 the information is sufficient to make it balanced. [[User:VasuVR|VasuVR]] ([[User talk:VasuVR|talk]]) 17:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Do read: [[WP:DEADLINE]] :) [[user:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">=Nichalp</font>]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">«Talk»=</font>]] 08:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


== FLC ==
{{DEFAULTSORT:Fuller, Barry}}
[[Category:1984 births]]
[[Category:Living people]]
[[Category:People from Ashford, Kent]]
[[Category:Conference National players]]
[[Category:The Football League players]]
[[Category:English footballers]]
[[Category:England semi-pro international footballers]]
[[Category:Charlton Athletic F.C. players]]
[[Category:Barnet F.C. players]]
[[Category:Stevenage Borough F.C. players]]
[[Category:Gillingham F.C. players]]


[[Extreme points of India]] on FLC [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Extreme points of India|nom]] [[user:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">=Nichalp</font>]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">«Talk»=</font>]] 19:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
{{England-footy-midfielder-1980s-stub}}
== Date format poll confirmation ==

There is ongoing discussion on the [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)|talk page for the Manual of Style]] (including a series of polls) aimed at achieving consensus on presenting dates in American (August 15, 1947) or International (15 August 1947) format on an article by article basis. The poll gives full instructions, but briefly the choices are:
* C = Option '''C''', the winner of the initial poll and run-off. (US articles have US format dates, international format otherwise)
* R = '''R'''etain existing wording. (National format for English-speaking countries, no guidance otherwise).
If you wish to participate or review the progress of discussion, you may follow [[Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Final_up.2Fdown_vote_on_guideline_for_writing_fixed-text_dates|this link]]. --[[User:Skyring|Pete]] ([[User talk:Skyring|talk]]) 09:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== TREAMIS World School ==

Back in June 2007 there was an [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TREAMIS World School|Afd]] for [http://www.treamis.org/ TREAMIS World School], with an outcome that it would be saved to [[User:Jayvdb/Saved pages/TREAMIS World School]], as I expected that more sources would arrive after the launch. Sadly I havent seen any [http://news.google.com.au/archivesearch?q=%22TREAMIS%22 news], or useful [http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22TREAMIS%22+site:in Indian webpages]. The school has recently been approved for [[Cambridge International Examinations]] [http://www.treamis.org/news8.html], so the school is definitely real and functioning; it just lacks reliable sources post-launch. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Jayvdb|John Vandenberg]] <sup>'''([[User talk:Jayvdb|chat]])'''</sup></span> 01:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radio (Band)]] ==

I thought this [[WP:AFD|AfD]] might benefit from the opinion of someone with specific knowledge of entertainment in the region and/or access to potential sources in order to counter any potential systematic [[WP:BIAS|bias]]. [[User:Guest9999|Guest9999]] ([[User talk:Guest9999|talk]]) 01:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
== Merger proposal at [[India (cat)]] ==

I have put up a proposal to merge the article [[India (cat)]] with [[George W. Bush]]. Editors interested in expressing their opinion regarding the merger can comment at [[Talk:India (cat)]]. Thank you. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] ([[User talk:Ragib|talk]]) 21:08, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Image needs replacement ==

Hello all...

An image used in the [[Mishing]] article, specifically [[:Image:Assam popu div.jpg]], has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--[[User:Jordan 1972|Jordan 1972]] ([[User talk:Jordan 1972|talk]]) 22:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Assam]] (there's noone there unfortunately) and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian maps]] can help. Additional problems with the map include the fact that they are JPEG (instead of SVG), and probably [[WP:OR]]. It's a 20 min job to create a new map, but my concern is [[WP:OR]]. As for photographs, none available on Flickr so far. :( [[user:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">=Nichalp</font>]] [[User Talk:Nichalp|<font color="#0082B8">«Talk»=</font>]] 05:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 07:00, 10 October 2008

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for India

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Importance of many articles shown as Unknown in the Selected articles list. Should they be assigned appropriate importance manually? Examples are:
  • B. R. Ambedkar, Rajiv Gandhi, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Edmund Hillary
  • Kālī, Indus River, Marathi language, Tabla
  • Mohenjo-daro, Hampi, Koh-i-Noor, Khajuraho, Ellora Caves, History of Buddhism
  • Asian Elephant, King Cobra
to name a few from the list. VasuVR (talk) 08:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, rating is manually done. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I personally think that some of these articles are not up to scratch, but I'm going to have little time to go through all of them myself. I also think that some good work has not been included and probably could be. For this reason, if any user feels an article has been left out and shouldn't be left, or that one of those listed should be left out rather than included, please leave a note of it here with the reason why you think it should/shouldn't be. Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Some view points on the list...
  • Rolling Stone (talk): a global magazine - probably only magazine found in the Wikiproject India list that was selected. Can be dropped from Wikiproject India's selection. It may still make 0.7 version due to other projects/ criteria, that is fine.
  • Julie Christie: born in India - no other information related to India in the article.
  • Many many articles on latest actors, actresses, latest movies are included, while artists and achievers in other fields, areas and eras seem to be very less. What can be done to give a better balance?
Hope we can improve the list appropriately... VasuVR (talk) 15:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
What can be done to give a better balance? Put forward suggestions of specific articles that can be included/excluded to give that balance. :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmmmm... The few articles that I thought should be on the list seem to require copy editing, citations, expansion or such stuff. Anyway, here are some thoughts for additions.
  • Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, Vande Mataram, Mahābhārata
  • Business stalwarts like JRD Tata, GD Birla
  • Hindustani classical music, Bismillah Khan, Amjad Ali Khan, Veena
  • Yajurveda, Samaveda and Atharvaveda
Above is mentioned keeping in view the peer articles are selected.
Also the following could be dropped from list.
  • Srivijaya article (kingdom in Indonesia), Khan (title) article
Comparing peers, the following may need to be there, but quality needs improvement
  • Rahul Dravid, Saurav Ganguly
These comments are with respect to Wikiproject India selection - but if the same articles that are suggested for drop are also selected in another project's criteria, then so be it. Also, I went through the process/procedure for nomination, review, etc. Based on what I read there, it is probably going to be difficult to get some of the above articles for the test release 0.7.
I guess modern people, events and related information are well documented due to Computer age, Internet collaboration and such. Hence there is going to be such imbalance of information, links, hits, etc... Hope by 1.0 the information is sufficient to make it balanced. VasuVR (talk) 17:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Do read: WP:DEADLINE :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

FLC

Extreme points of India on FLC nom =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Date format poll confirmation

There is ongoing discussion on the talk page for the Manual of Style (including a series of polls) aimed at achieving consensus on presenting dates in American (August 15, 1947) or International (15 August 1947) format on an article by article basis. The poll gives full instructions, but briefly the choices are:

  • C = Option C, the winner of the initial poll and run-off. (US articles have US format dates, international format otherwise)
  • R = Retain existing wording. (National format for English-speaking countries, no guidance otherwise).

If you wish to participate or review the progress of discussion, you may follow this link. --Pete (talk) 09:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

TREAMIS World School

Back in June 2007 there was an Afd for TREAMIS World School, with an outcome that it would be saved to User:Jayvdb/Saved pages/TREAMIS World School, as I expected that more sources would arrive after the launch. Sadly I havent seen any news, or useful Indian webpages. The school has recently been approved for Cambridge International Examinations [1], so the school is definitely real and functioning; it just lacks reliable sources post-launch. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought this AfD might benefit from the opinion of someone with specific knowledge of entertainment in the region and/or access to potential sources in order to counter any potential systematic bias. Guest9999 (talk) 01:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal at India (cat)

I have put up a proposal to merge the article India (cat) with George W. Bush. Editors interested in expressing their opinion regarding the merger can comment at Talk:India (cat). Thank you. --Ragib (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Image needs replacement

Hello all...

An image used in the Mishing article, specifically Image:Assam popu div.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 22:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Assam (there's noone there unfortunately) and Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian maps can help. Additional problems with the map include the fact that they are JPEG (instead of SVG), and probably WP:OR. It's a 20 min job to create a new map, but my concern is WP:OR. As for photographs, none available on Flickr so far. :( =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)