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{{Infobox School | name = Westminster Christian Academy
<big>'''Welcome!'''</big>
| image = [[Image:Westminster_Christian_Academy_Archway.jpg|200px]]
| caption = The archway in front of the main entrance of Westminster Christian Academy
| type = [[Private school|Private]]
| established = 1976
| enrollment = approx. 865
| free_label = Colors <br> Mascot
| free_text = Blue and white<br> Wildcat
| faculty = 73 Full Time / 5 Part Time <br> Jim Marsh, Headmaster <br> Dr. James Sefrit, US Principal <br> Steve Hall, MS Principal <br> Tim Hall, Dean of Students <br> Scott Holley, Dean of Academics
| location = [[St. Louis, Missouri|St. Louis]], [[Missouri|MO]], [[United States|USA]]
| website = http://www.wcastl.org
}}
'''Westminster Christian Academy (WCA)''' is a private,[[Christian]] school, 7-12 grade secondary school located in [[St. Louis County, Missouri]], [[United States]].


Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}, and [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome to Wikipedia!]] Thank you for [[Special:Contributions/{{BASEPAGENAME}}|your contributions]]{{#if:Mary Carey|, especially those to the [[Mary Carey]] article|{{#if:{{{for|}}}|, especially those to the [[{{{for}}}]] article|}}}}. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
The school currently has an enrollment of approximately 865 students in grades 7 through 12. It is further divided into an [[High school#United States|Upper School (9-12)]] of approximately 611 students and a [[Middle school#United States|Middle School (7-8)]] of approximately 254 students.<ref>[http://www.wcastl.org/admissions/ataglance/ Westminster Christian Academy: At a Glance]</ref> Tuition for the 2008-2009 school year is $11,050[[USD]] regardless of grade.<ref>[http://www.wcastl.org/admissions/overview.php Westminster Christian Academy: Tuition & Fees<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
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==History==
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[[Westminster Christian Academy]] opened on September 7, 1976 to 72 students. In the first two years, Westminster operated out of rented classrooms from [[Missouri Baptist University]]. For the first two years, Nolan Vander Ark was headmaster of the school. Before joining Westminster, Mr. Vander Ark served as a Christian Reformed Missionary in Africa.<ref>[http://www.wcastl.org/about/history/headmasters.php http://www.wcastl.org/about/history/headmasters.php]</ref><ref>[http://www.wcastl.org/about/history/complete.php Westminster Christian Academy: Complete History</ref> After two years of renting space, the administration purchased a campus known as the "Des Peres School" in [[Kirkwood, Missouri]]. Once Westminster moved to the new campus, Evelyn Downs stepped up as headmistress. She remained headmistress until 1981. In four years after moving to that campus, the student body had quadrupled, and it was obvious that Westminster had to move to a bigger campus. At this point, Arlen Dykstra became headmaster so he oversaw the relocation of the school to the current location and the accredidation of the school through Independent Schools Association of the Central States (ISACS).<ref>[http://www.mbumagonline.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44:arlen-dykstra-a-man-of-principle&catid=34:v212 Arlen Dykstra - A Man of Principle]</ref> In 1982, they purchased the Creve Couer campus, where they are at today. In 1984, the school faced another dilemma as they were without a headmaster once more. Larry Birchler, the registrar for the school, stepped up as interim Headmaster until they could find a new one. In 1985, Jim Marsh became headmaster who is the current one today. <ref>[http://wcastl.com/about/history/complete.php Westminster Christian Academy: Complete History</ref>
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===Creve Coeur Campus===
Purchased in 1984, the 30 acre Creve Coeur Campus serves as the primary campus for the school.


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In 1999, the school started an $11 million construction and renovation project. With the money, the school added a new gymnasium, new student commons, new senior and 8th grade hallway wings, a new weightlifting facility and locker rooms, a new bookstore, and new offices. Dubbed the "Creve Coeur Campus", the building has over 150,000 square feet, a 25 yard indoor pool, library, two gymnasiums, cafeteria, academic and administrative rooms, and outdoor sports facilities.


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===Town and Country Campus===


In 2002, Westminster purchased the campus of the West County Vocational Technical School in [[Town and Country, Missouri|Town and Country]] with plans to renovate the space to serve for future growth of the school. Currently, the property is being rented out to unaffiliated associations and is also used for various school activities. The school has recently announced plans to move the school to this location in the fall of 2011. Additionally, an adjacent parcel of land was purchased from Central Presbyterian Church. The purchase was made possible by a donation to Westminster by an anonymous supporter<ref>[http://www.wcastl.org/advancement/latest/ Westminster Christian Academy: Latest News<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>. Plans are underway for a total of $50 million in renovations of the property in anticipation of the school moving to this new campus in 2011. The current site plan contemplates the addition of a multitude of fields for both practicing on and hosting games, 2-3 gymnasiums, 1 theater that seats 1000, black box theatre, a football stadium, soccer field, 2-4 practice fields, ice rink, swimming pool, and many storage facilities and locker rooms<ref>http://206.196.98.11/upload/47878ea4a85a2.pdf</ref>.


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Westminster is strong academically -- during the 1990-1991 school year, it was recognized as a Blue Ribbon School by the United States Department of Education<ref>[http://www.ed.gov/programs/nclbbrs/list-1982.pdf http://www.ed.gov/programs/nclbbrs/list-1982.pdf]</ref>. 65% of the faculty have advanced degrees, including 6 doctorates<ref name=autogenerated1>http://www.wcastl.org/admissions/ataglance/ Westminster at a Glance</ref>. 98% of the 2008 graduates went on to college. The school also offers a Special Services program to address the educational needs of those families who have students with diagnosed disabilities<ref>http://www.wcastl.org/upper/academics/specialservices.php Westminster Christian Academy: Special Services</ref>. Westminster was the first Christian school to be accredited by the Independent Schools Association of the Central States (ISACS)<ref>[http://www.wcastl.org/about/history/complete.php Westminster Christian Academy: Complete History<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>, an accredidation which the school maintains to this day<ref>[http://www.isacs.org/about/schools/default.asp ISACS<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>. The school is also accredited by Christian Schools International<ref>http://www.csionline.org/schools/listing/westminster_christian_academy_st_louis_mo/</ref>.
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==Activities==


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===Athletics===


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Westminster Christian Academy has a large and successful athletic program. In June 2007, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch ranked Westminster Christian Academy as the number one athletics program among small schools in the St. Louis metro region<ref>[http://www.stltoday.com STLtoday - Home<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><ref>http://206.196.98.11/upload/47a24e333dfdf.pdf</ref>. The upper school fields 9 men's teams, 11 women's teams, and 2 co-ed teams that compete as part of the [[Missouri State High School Activities Association]].
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In 2006 in the Missouri state Class 4, both the men's and women's basketball teams were ranked in the top ten in the state. The men were ranked #9 and the women were ranked #4.


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In 2005, Westminster Christian's Academic Competition team (coached by Bob Vass) won the MSHSAA state championship, which is the only MSHSAA title that Westminster has to date. However, many other teams have earned "Final Four" honors at the state level.


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===Community Service===


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The student organizations and each class participate in community service projects. In addition, the seniors participate in “Faith in Action,” a unique program in which they serve in various help agencies throughout the St. Louis community for two hours each Thursday morning of the school year<ref>http://206.196.98.11/upload/07CSG%20.pdf Course Selection for the 2007-2008 Academic Year</ref>.


Please don't insert personal opinions into Wikipedia articles. Factual contributions, especially when sourced, are welcome. Also, I don't feel that photos of you using particular cameras add anything to Wikipedia; they don't illustrate much about the camera that's not better illustrated by a photo without you in the shot. [[User:Morven|Matthew Brown (Morven)]] ([[User talk:Morven|T]]:[[Special:Contributions/Morven|C]]) 04:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


My opinions were valid for generalizing about the worth of the camera system. I have a lot of working experience with both Canon AE-1 models. However you could make the case it was subjective, and not as specific as other details in the articles. However I've seen heresay there, which was left intact, which knocked the camera. I happen to know better.


As for my photos which you hastily deleted, in both cases they added value; 1)Another valid picture of the exact model. 2)An actual working model shown instead of a camera which might be basically a paperweight sitting in someone's closet for years. 3)Camera with lens identifed excactly. One of the pictures was actually taken by the camera at hand, demonstating the current results. Most people will not bother to use the actual camera, get the film processed, and get it scanned. I did. That's a lot more effort and that wasn't already in the article. When you add these things up, you have enough worth to justify these picures being included.
==Memberships==


[[User:ParaGreen13|ParaGreen13]] ([[User talk:ParaGreen13#top|talk]]) 16:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)Derek Jolly
Westminster is a member of the following organizations:


:There shouldn't be hearsay in the articles at all, actually, but I know it creeps in. As to the photos, I'm not sure if the camera being a working example or not matters to the reader at all - as long as the camera shown is complete and in as good condition as we can find. I stand by what I said that the camera un-obscured by the operator is a better picture for an encyclopedia context, unless there is something particular about the operation that needs to be illustrated - something I'm not sure is the case with the AE-1. [[User:Morven|Matthew Brown (Morven)]] ([[User talk:Morven|T]]:[[Special:Contributions/Morven|C]]) 02:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
*[http://www.moacac.org/ Missouri Association for College Admission Counseling (MOACAC)]
*[[National Association for College Admission Counseling|National Association for College Admission Counseling (NACAC)]]
*The [[College Board]]
*[http://www.independentschools.org/ Independent Schools of St. Louis]
*[http://www.csasl.org/ Christian Schools Association of St. Louis]
*[[Christian Schools International|Christian Schools International (CSI)]]
*[[National Association of Independent Schools|National Association of Independent Schools (NAIS)]]


Also, the AE-1s didn't come with any power winders at all, normally. I've never had one for it. So it's stupid to mention a frame rate with it.
==Notable people==
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===Alumni===
*[[Curtis Francois]], 1982, race car driver in the Indy Racing Infiniti Pro Series<ref>http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/C-Francois-,2286.html?PHPSESSID=a08e2408b520481fd44c183f6e6e932c http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/C-Francois-,2286.html?PHPSESSID=a08e2408b520481fd44c183f6e6e932c</ref><ref>[http://206.196.98.11/upload/Summer%202005.pdf Summer 2005.indd<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[Michael Gerson]], 1982, former presidential speechwriter for [[George W. Bush]] and one of [[Time Magazine|Time Magazine's]] "25 Most Influential Evangelicals In America"<ref>{{cite news |title=The 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America |publisher=[[Time (magazine)|TIME]] |url=http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101050207 |date=[[2005-02-07]]}}</ref><ref>[http://www.nndb.com/people/096/000099796/ Michael Gerson<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[Stephen Hauser]], 1988, author of screenplay for 1998 movie, [[Sphere (movie)|Sphere]], based on [[Michael Crichton|Michael Crichton's]] 1987 [[Sphere (novel)|novel]] by the same name<ref>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0369561/ Stephen Hauser<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><ref>http://www.filmanchor.com/screenplays/S/SPHERE.pdf</ref>.
*[[Mark F. "Thor" Hearne]], 1979, attorney, national counsel to Bush-Cheney 2004 Campaign, 2004 recipient of Missouri Lawyers Weekly Missouri Lawyer of the Year Award<ref>[http://www.lathropgage.com/people/detail.aspx?attorney=1584 Lathrop & Gage L.C. | People | Mark "Thor" Fernlund Hearne, II<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><ref>[http://206.196.98.11/upload/Winter%202004.pdf Winter 2004.indd<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><ref>[http://www.molawyersweekly.com/loty/hearne.htm Missouri Lawyers Weekly: Missouri Lawyers of the Year 2004<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[Barth Holohan]], 1991, owner of St. Louis based Continuum and 2007 recipient of St. Louis Business Journal's 40 under 40 award<ref>[http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/01/15/focus31.html http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/01/15/focus31.html]</ref><ref name=autogenerated2>http://206.196.98.11/upload/Ch2_Spring07.pdf</ref>.
*[[Andrea Mackris]], 1989, [[FOX News]] television producer, allegedly harassed by [[Bill O'Reilly (commentator)|Bill O'Reilly]]<ref>[http://www.nndb.com/people/411/000070201/ Andrea Mackris<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[Sandra McCracken]], 1995, singer-songwriter<ref>[http://www.christianguitar.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78372 Sandra McCracken Rocks!!! - CGR Community<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><ref>[http://wcastl.org/upload/47ff9b4942c73.pdf WEST4853_Chimes_spring08-revised.indd<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[Jack L. Oliver III]], 1987, Republican strategist, chairman of [[Bryan Cave]] Strategies, LLC and 2007 recipient of St. Louis Business Journal's 40 under 40 award<ref>[[http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/01/15/focus41.html http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/01/15/focus41.html]]</ref><ref name=autogenerated2 /><ref>[http://www.bryancave.com/jack/ Bryan Cave | Our People | Jack L. Oliver III<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[George Thampy]], valedictorian 2005, [[Scripps National Spelling Bee]] Champion in 2000 while homeschooled, entered Harvard University Fall 2007, featured in the movie [[Spellbound]]<ref>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1552259/ George Thampy<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref><ref>[http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2003-09-03/news/breakfast-of-champions/ Breakfast of Champions, page 1 - News - Riverfront Times - Riverfront Times<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>.
*[[Marc Van Gilst]]<ref>[[http://myprofile.cos.com/vangilst<!-- Bot generated title-->]</ref>, 1989, Diabetes/Obesity Research Scientist, Affiliate Professor of Biology at University of Washington, and Principal Investigator at [[Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center]], Winner of several scientific awards, including the Helen Hay Whitney Foundation Fellow Award, 1999, and the American Diabetes Association Junior Investigator Award, 2006.


:However a power winder was made specially for the AE-1; I don't see it hurts to say what frame rate it gives. [[User:Morven|Matthew Brown (Morven)]] ([[User talk:Morven|T]]:[[Special:Contributions/Morven|C]]) 02:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
===Faculty and Staff===
*[[L.B. Graham]], Bible teacher, author of [[Binding of the Blade]] epic fantasy series.<ref>http://www.wcastl.org/directory/graham-lb/ http://www.wcastl.org/directory/graham-lb/</ref>.
*[[Todd Worrell]], former Major League Baseball pitcher, the current pitching coach for the school's baseball team<ref>http://www.wcastl.org/directory/worrell-todd/ http://www.wcastl.org/directory/worrell-todd/</ref><ref>http://www.baseballcoaches.org/07westminstersunshine.pdf http://www.baseballcoaches.org/07westminstersunshine.pdf</ref>.


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*[http://www.wcastl.org Westminster Christian Academy]


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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Jim Jones. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Lazulilasher (talk) 22:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You're welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

-- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the recent edit you made to Sarah Connor (Terminator) has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. —αἰτίας discussion 06:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


Image copyright problem with Image:Milerocks.jpg

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Image copyright problem with Image:AE-1 closeup.jpg

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Image copyright problem with Image:BakerwGG.jpg

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Camera articles

Please don't insert personal opinions into Wikipedia articles. Factual contributions, especially when sourced, are welcome. Also, I don't feel that photos of you using particular cameras add anything to Wikipedia; they don't illustrate much about the camera that's not better illustrated by a photo without you in the shot. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 04:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

My opinions were valid for generalizing about the worth of the camera system. I have a lot of working experience with both Canon AE-1 models. However you could make the case it was subjective, and not as specific as other details in the articles. However I've seen heresay there, which was left intact, which knocked the camera. I happen to know better.

As for my photos which you hastily deleted, in both cases they added value; 1)Another valid picture of the exact model. 2)An actual working model shown instead of a camera which might be basically a paperweight sitting in someone's closet for years. 3)Camera with lens identifed excactly. One of the pictures was actually taken by the camera at hand, demonstating the current results. Most people will not bother to use the actual camera, get the film processed, and get it scanned. I did. That's a lot more effort and that wasn't already in the article. When you add these things up, you have enough worth to justify these picures being included.

ParaGreen13 (talk) 16:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)Derek Jolly

There shouldn't be hearsay in the articles at all, actually, but I know it creeps in. As to the photos, I'm not sure if the camera being a working example or not matters to the reader at all - as long as the camera shown is complete and in as good condition as we can find. I stand by what I said that the camera un-obscured by the operator is a better picture for an encyclopedia context, unless there is something particular about the operation that needs to be illustrated - something I'm not sure is the case with the AE-1. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 02:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, the AE-1s didn't come with any power winders at all, normally. I've never had one for it. So it's stupid to mention a frame rate with it. ParaGreen13 (talk) 06:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

However a power winder was made specially for the AE-1; I don't see it hurts to say what frame rate it gives. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 02:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Please upload photos to commons

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October 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, you may not know that Wikipedia has a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Using different styles throughout the encyclopedia, as you did in Rastus, makes it harder to read. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. You might think "African-American" is a silly politically-correct word, but "Negro" and "Black", when applied to African-Americans, can cause offense. Slashme (talk) 09:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)