Talk:Middlebury College

Selectivity cont...

The old intro to this article is incredibly pompus. Middlebury is an amazing school, certainly one of the best in the country. Please stop trying to prove this point to everyone else with quotes like "consistantly ranks among the elite" and "often concidered one of the 'Little Ivies'". While these facts are indeed true, the constant chest thumping about Middlebury's academic prowess borders on pathetic. Please, speak softly and carry a big stick!!

The Real Question Is

Why is someone at Dartmouth [yes, IP addresses can be tracked] so concerned about Middlebury's Wiki page? I only brought up Williams and Amherst because you seem to ignore the same concerns in their entries (first sentence, no less!), and I'm curious as to why?

Oh, and I've returned the entry to the way you'd like it. I expect to see you doing some more editing on other college Wiki entries.

selectivity

why are you so obsessed with the term "highly selective"? and amherst? and williams? maybe there should be a section about how middlebury college is fixated with its relative selectivity. and amherst. and williams. would you feel bad about middlebury college if it wasn't considered highly selective by college admissions magazines? do other highly selective colleges feel the need to tout thier "selectivity"? in the very first sentence of thier wikipedia article?

I think what was there was a fair compromise, and it will probably revert to that in the end.

yes, they indeed do. check the williams and amherst college pages; they all have highly selective. i think midd deserves the same as well.

Hippies

Middlebury College does not exist only for "it's [sic] selectivity" or "long history of amazing scholarship" [actually, the article reads "distinguished scholarship"], but these two elements, along with many others, do characterize the college. Admit it--you're picking on Middlebury in particular and ignoring the subjective terms found in all of the other college entries. Why is Williams College still listed as being "highly selective" and Amherst as being "elite" in their introductions? You haven't wasted your time correcting those egregious errors. Perhaps once you’ve removed all of the subjective terms from the entries for all of the top colleges, the Middlebury “hippies” and “goons” will stop “defacing” this entry. Deal, Dartmouth goon?

admissions officer

actually "highly selective" is a subjective term. Every school or organization could define itself as highly selective. i'm sure your counterpart at university of phoenix also considers his institution "highly selective," so really what's the point? it's all empty talk, and hardly npov. so let's remove it.

the bigger question is whether middlebury college exists only for it's "selectivity" or "long history of amazing scholarship." why are these in the introduction? are these the defining aspects of middlebury college? does middlebury college only exist to impress high school kids? or does it have a real history?

if "highly selective" is to be in the article, it should be in a separate section about middlebury's reputation. and it should include the references to these college magazines you apparently cherish. the concept of selectivity needs to be in context. wikipedia entries shouldn't be written though the prism of college admissions.

and yes, i am spiteful towards hippies who are trying to hijack wikipedia and turn it into an advertisement for their college. so please don't deface the page again middlebury goons.

Highly Selective

Believe it or not, "highly selective" is a real term that is found and referenced in hundreds of websites (including dozens of college guides and college web sites). It also is used in plenty of Wiki entries for elite colleges (e.g., Williams College). And your reference to "Middlebury goons" does nothing to help your cause--it just makes you look spiteful, which you may or may not be for whatever reason.

the ad

I reworded some of the Middlebury article to make it more objective, and less of an advertisement. eg, "highly selective" isn't a real term. It's something admissions offices use to market themselves to high school kids. The same with "long tradition of amazing scholarship." Every college in the world thinks they have a "long tradition of amazing scholarship." If the Middlebury article gets it, every college article should too. you're not that special.

Please don't deface the page again middlebury goons.

what's the point?

This page reads like an advertisement for Middlebury College. Is there any actually objective information about the school or its history? Or just more chessey claptrap about how Middlebury is the most perfect place on the entire earth? This is pathetic.

Early history naming disparities

The History of Addison County[1], published in 1886, lists November 8, 1797, as the date of the charter of the Addison County Grammar School (page 344), as established by act of the state legislature. It may not have been active, however, until the new year. Additionally, it establishes that the legislature granted the College's charter to the "President and Fellows of Middlebury College" (page 347), the legal name of the corporation today. The use of "Middlebury Academy" is not clear, but it is unlikely the degree-granting institution was known as that. Both legally and operationally, the College and the Grammar School were seperate institutions, although they did exist in the same building for the first few years (this building was later known as East College, which burned in the 1860s at about the site where Twilight Hall stands today). Aiken1986

Course Selection

Check this out before you choose any classes...

MiddKid.com, a local student site, offers online course evaluations. You can use this site to reference classes you’re thinking of taking, so you can see how other students have rated the teacher and material. You can also post your own ratings to help out other students. Check out http://middkid.com/eval/ for more information.

from the College Prowler guidebook, Middlebury College - Off the Record

this college was mentioned on Slashdot.com

Not to make THEM famous.... just this...

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/26/1752250

"History department has voted to ban students from citing it as a resource. An outright ban was considered, but dropped because enforcement seemed impossible."

Using of wikipedia

According to an New York Times articel, the school has forbiddin his students to use wikipedia as an trustfull source for their studies: http://media.www.middleburycampus.com/media/storage/paper446/news/2007/01/24/News/Wikipedia.Distresses.History.Department-2670081.shtml?sourcedomain=www.middleburycampus.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

194.171.35.202 11:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

"shire town"

The term "shire town" is likely unfamiliar to many. At the very least it should be linked to an article on the term. The current link redirects to "county seat." 76.19.147.79 18:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)