User talk:The Ogre/archive3

Your Civility

Your comment to "block Hayden forever!" on this edit is against WP:CIVIL which says to not call for bans or blocks on other editors.----^DarkTea 05:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Porto

• Presumably you were referring to WP:TRIVIA when you mentioned the "rules" - as you can see from the page, facts should ideally be integrated rather than removed when possible. This is in any case a guideline - only policies can really be regarded as rules - and nowhere does it say "Trivia sections should be deleted on-sight". The points listed seem to be substantive and useful - I removed an overtly trivial point earlier today. Leave it for now, I'll edit it into the article. Deiz talk 14:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Trivia integrated. I'm against random miscellany and have been given a hard time in the past for deleting trivia sections myself - the key is to recognize when a trivia section is entirely comprised of unsourced, useless factoids, or if it contains notable information that simply wasn't properly integrated into the article. Porto is a fairly well looked after article, when a page has mutiple active editors a note on the talk page or related WikiProject noticeboard will usually get things happening. If that doesn't work, delete and leave an appropriate edit summary. Removing the info to the talk page is also helpful. Cheers, Deiz talk 15:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Sweet as.. we have scarily similar edit counts.. you've got me by about 98 right now :) Deiz talk 16:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey.

Thanks for your help. I noticed you are part of the Portugal group. Maybe you can speak portuguese, which means it is sort of strange that we keep speaking in english. By the way, I live in Évora and let me say that we here do not consider Olivenza as portuguese territory and I think it is a bit strange that Olivenza is still oficially in the district of Évora. It seems a bit odd. Anyways, good luck. If you need any help in articles about Évora or Alentejo, please ask. I'll be happy to support you in anything you need, photos or information! Filipeacaeiro 14:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Your work is appreciated

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless, invaluable work here. Keep up the good work! Regards, Húsönd 15:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

European

Hi. I just made a suggestion there [1] and I'd like your opinion but since that page is so inactive, I felt like notifying you here...KarenAER 12:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Re. Your work is also appreciated!

Thank you so much for the Barnstar, The Ogre! :-) I'm naturally very proud and grateful for this one. Keep up your excellent work as well! :-) Best regards, Húsönd 19:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Europe people

As soon as you can, please comment here Slrubenstein | Talk 03:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Gallery

I agree that we need a German. Someone pulled out the German model. But there will be objections on two issues (1) B&W photo, and (2) another politician. I didn't set these rules and don't agree with them, but without compromise we lose support from the broader base. Can we pull down your contribution and sub in another German? --Kevin Murray 17:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• Can you work with me to balance the gallery,a s I think that we share the same goal. I don't see tagging it as being productive as it disrupts the visual. I agree to moving it to Commons once we have a stable product, but it's a lot of work to do while it is in flux. OK? --Kevin Murray 17:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. I tried to find a color picture of a Portugese non-politicial, but have so far failed. Any ideas? --Kevin Murray 17:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
• Thanks again. --Kevin Murray 17:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Learnportuguese

Hello The Ogre. I just noticed that you've contacted Learnportuguese and gave some advice, just like me and some other editors have recently. I don't know if you already know that this user is blind (she claimed she was blind on my talk page yesterday), so Learnportuguese is naturally a newbie who will face more difficulties in getting accustomed to editing Wikipedia, its formats, styles, etc.. I thought I should tell you in case you didn't know. Regards, Húsönd 17:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

User Hosund is going to help me with the signature thing. Like I said, I am a blind user, so formats can be an issue with my computer. I've been typing the four tildes, and it doesn't look right 'cause I keep being accused of something I'm not intending to do.

learnportuguese 20:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Portuguese Colonies in North America

Hi. I've discovered a source of 1570 about this, that says that Portugal had a colony in Cape Breton. Take a look in the Portuguese Empire Discussion page. Greetings, Câmara 22:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:Pedro Álvares Cabral.jpg

Image Copyright problem

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 19:36, 25 August 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Dantadd 19:36, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Caracóis

Tem graça que fui ao artigo depois de ler o Público e quando lá cheguei já lá estava a cena... Velho 14:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Portugal EEZ.PNG - copyright

Thanks. Have done now. Btw, what were you planning to use for your map? Is there a free basemap that shows the area? Because I was thinking of trying to do an EU one at some point. - J Logan ^t: 16:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Desenhos

Safa, Ogre, tás não só o herói da Família, também o herói da Pátria! Só falta dedicares-te um bocadinho a Deus. Velho 22:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not kidnapped!

It's me, it really is! I wasn't kidnapped, I just developed a sense of humour (and also decided that satire is the only proper response to this little farce). I ask you to delete your own comments form the talk page as I do not want you to get in trouble for anyone suspecting that you are even seeming to accuse Fourdee of impersonating me. And I did warn Alun about this, so he knows. Sorry to have caused you any distress, it is a joke - I didn't think I would need to explain it. I guess I am a better mimic than I thought! Slrubenstein | Talk 12:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I edit conflicted with you! I was just saying the same thing. Thanks for your concern though Ogre, I appreciate it. Alun 12:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I know, I just did it again - sorry, I can't help it. maybe my spirit has been kidnapped, but if so i assure you it is by an imp who is on your side, really. I just can't take these debates seriously any more, at least not today. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC) (yes, really!)

Far be it for me to start a revert war and I know all your reasons were good ones, but I think when it is sectioned off in an "irony" section, it is less funny...The joke is in the difficulty in deciding whether it is a joke. (Being a point not about my edit, but about similar-sounding edits by other people) Slrubenstein | Talk 13:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay- but what is boring are the edits by a certain editor whom I shall not name ;) Slrubenstein | Talk 13:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey!

Wow, that is only the second barnstar I have ever gotten here in 6 years and it means a lot to me, really. I guess what really means a lot to me are your kind words. While I have had the will and time to fight on the talk page front I actually feel guilty that I have not fought on the main front - making substantive contributions to the articles. I work in the Amazon and ethnic groups of Europe let alone White people are not my main field of expertise. I recently made some additions to Ethnic group - finally, at least Weber's definition is in. May I ask what your specialties are in sociology? Perhaps you would feel competent adding to the White peoples or European Peoples' articles material on the social construction of Whiteness or White/European ethnic groups? The only book i know for Europe is Cole and Wolf's The Hidden Frontier and some books on Greek Macedonians (or Macedonian Greeks). On the White people talk page, in the section "Bias in this article" I provided a partial bibliography of works on whiteness - if you know any of them well, or other work by sociologists on whites (I guess even Gans's stuff on Italian Americans should be cited) I hope you have the time to do the work that really counts: quiet, but good, accurate, well-researched additions of content to the articles. It is a stuggle, but I'll watch your back and help out if I can. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)