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Given the history of the [[Armenian people]], the '''cuisine of Armenia''' and of the Armenians in the [[Armenian Diaspora]] is representative of the cuisine of the [[Mediterranean cuisine|Mediterranean]] and the [[Caucasus]], with strong influences from [[Eastern European cuisine|Eastern Europe]], the [[Middle Eastern cuisine|Middle East]], and, to a lesser extent, from the [[Balkan cuisine|Balkans]].<ref name=food>Alan Davidson, ''The Oxford Companion to Food'', Oxford University Press, 1999, p. 35.</ref> Armenians themselves have greatly influenced the culinary traditions of nearby countries or cities, such as [[Aleppo]].<ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2007/05/20/etmyaleppo120.xml My kind of town: Aleppo].</ref> The preparation of a large number of meat, fish, and vegetable dishes in the Armenian kitchen requires stuffing, frothing, and pureeing.<ref>Pokhlebkin, V. V. Russian Delight: A Cookbook of the Soviet People. London: Pan Books, 1978</ref> Lamb, aubergines, youghurt, and bread ([[lavash]]) are basic features of the Armenian cuisine. Armenians use cracked wheat ([[burghul]]) in preference to maize and rice popular among its Caucasian neighbors ([[Cuisine of Georgia (country)|Georgia]] and [[Cuisine of Azerbaijan|Azerbaijan]]).


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==Salads==
* [[Amarva khorovadz]] -- barbecued vegetables mixed together, traditional Armenian salad
* [[Eetch]] -- bulgur salad, similar to the Middle Eastern [[tabouleh]]
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* [[Tabouleh]] -- wheat and mint salad - Originating in the Middle east
* [[Fattoush]] -- pita bread salad - Originating in the Middle east
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==Main courses==
== thanks ==
finaly got the image uploaded and ran out of time to make the format good.
* [[Fasulya]] (''fassoulia'') – a stew made with green beans, lamb and tomato broth or other ingredients
thanks. What other images do you think we dhould add [[User:Saltysailor|Saltysailor]] ([[User talk:Saltysailor|talk]]) 21:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
* [[Ghapama]] – pumpkin stew
* [[Kchuch]] – a casserole of mixed vegetables with pieces of meat or fish on top, baked and served in a clay pot
* [[Moussaka]] – baked dish consisting of spiced ground meat (usually lamb) between layers of [[aubergine]] slices
* [[Mujaddara]] – cooked lentils and rice
* [[Tjvjik]] – a dish of fried liver and kidneys with onions
* [[Satsivi]] - pieces of roast chicken in walnut sauce, taken from [[Cuisine of Georgia|Georgian cuisine]]


*Nice to have a pic for each section. Could use a pic of White suiters (group perferable), presidents, float testing, grand marshals, Rose Bowl or game photo. I have too many pictures to go through, they are slides and negatives [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 16:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


== image police ==
bots and admins have been gettn tough on images that are not clearly free
[[User:Saltysailor|Saltysailor]] ([[User talk:Saltysailor|talk]]) 21:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


== exactly ==
是!
[[User:Amiens984|Amiens984]] ([[User talk:Amiens984|talk]]) 09:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
* 一点点。。。
write me [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Amiens984 here]
[[User:Amiens984|Amiens984]] ([[User talk:Amiens984|talk]]) 09:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


== [[WP:3O|Third opinion]] request ==


Hi Ucla90024!
==Bread==
[[Image:Choereg.jpg|thumb|[[Choreg]] at an Armenian Easter celebration]]


You listed a request at WP:3O that was malformed. I would like to get the request fixed for you, but there seems to be no talk page where any discussion is actually taking place on the issue. I am going to remove the request for now, but please relist it once you have begun a discussion (preferably at [[Talk:United States Army]]) about the issue. Other editors there may help to decide concensus without needing the third opinion. If you need help listing the discussion correctly, feel free to ask. [[User:JimMillerJr|Jim Miller]] ([[User talk:JimMillerJr|talk]]) 01:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
* [[Lavash]] – the staple bread of Armenian cuisine
* [[Matnakash]] – soft and puffy leavened bread, made of wheat flour and shaped into oval or round loaves; the characteristic golden or golden-brown crust is achieved by coating the surface of the loaves with sweetened tea essence before baking.<ref>''Matnakash'' recipe on [http://www.armenia.ee/Cocking/Hac_html/H002.htm Armenian Portal in Estonia.] {{ru icon}}</ref>
* ''Paghach'' – flaky layered bread.<ref name=bread>Bread recipes in [http://www.saintsarkis.org/breads.htm Adventures in Armenian Cooking]</ref>
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* [[Cheoreg|Choereg]] (or [[choreg]]) – braided bread formed into rolls or loaves, also a traditional loaf for Easter.<ref name=bread/>


* Thanks. But the discussion was at his talk page: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Signaleer&diff=prev&oldid=227687233]]. He just keep saying a picture is bias when other unit pictures are not provided. It's an impossible job to have a picture of all units and every picture is bias in one way. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 17:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
==Sweets==
* ''Alani'' – pitted dried peaches stuffed with ground walnuts and sugar.<ref>''Alani'' described on [http://www.millionmenu.info/eng/rus/kitchen/facts/posts1/articl545/ Million Menu]</ref>
* ''[[Kadaif]]'' (''ghataif'') – shredded dough with cream, cheese, or chopped walnut filling, soaked with sugar syrup.<ref name=desserts>Desserts on [http://www.saintsarkis.org/desserts.htm Adventures in Armenian Cooking]</ref>
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* ''Anoushabour'' – dried fruits stewed with barley, garnished with chopped almonds or walnuts (a traditional Christmas pudding).<ref name=desserts/>
* ''Bastegh'' (''pastegh'') - homemade [[fruit leather]].
* ''T'tu lavash'' – thin roll-up sheets of sour plum puree ([[fruit leather]]).


==Ritual foods==
== Good work ==
* [[Nshkhar]] -- bread used for Holy Communion
* [[Mas]] -- literally means "piece" a piece of leftover bread from the making of Nshkhar, given to worshippers after church service
* [[Matagh]] -- sacrificial meat. can be of any animal such as goat, lamb, or even bird.


Thanks for your contributions to Southern Californian politicians and places. You're making Wikipedia a better encyclopedia. [[Special:Contributions/Will_Beback| ·:· ]][[User:Will Beback|Will Beback]] [[User talk:Will Beback|·:·]] 16:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
==Drinks==
===Non-alcoholic===
*[[Armenian coffee]] -- strong black coffee, finely ground, sometimes sweet
*[[Kefir]] -- fermented milk drink
*[[Kvas]] -- sweet, fermented bread drink
*[[Ayran|Tahn]] – yoghurt drink (still or carbonated)
*[[Jermuk (drink)|Jermuk]] -- a band of mineral water from the [[Jermuk]] area
*[[Hayq, Sari]] – a brand of bottled mountain spring water from the [[Jermuk]] area (in [[Armenian language|Armenian]] ''Hayq'' stands for ''Armenia'' and ''Sari'' for ''from the mountains'').
*''Gazoz'' – a generic name for a flavored carbonated drink, either bottled [[Soft drink|soda]] or sparkling water mixed with syrup in a glass.{{Fact|date=August 2008}}


* Thanks. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 17:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
===Alcoholic===
* [[Beer]] ([http://biggestmenu.com/rdr/CA/Glendale/Raffi's-Place-1590603/Armenian-Beer-Kotayk-Erebuni-Kilikia-17522 popular brands] ''[[Kotayk Brewery|Kotayk]]'', ''Erebuni'', ''Kilikia'')
* Armenian [[brandy]] (popular brand names ''[[Ararat (brandy)|Ararat]]'', ''Dvin'')
* [[Arak (distilled beverage)|Oghi]] – an aniseed-flavored distilled alcoholic drink (called ''[[arak (distilled beverage)|arak]]'' in the [[Middle East]], [[Raki (alcoholic beverage)|raki]] in Turkey, or [[ouzo]] in [[Greece]])
* Pomegranate wines – sweet and semi-sweet [[fruit wine]]s made from pomegranate juice.
* ''Areni wines'' are red wines made from the Armenian Аreni grape ([[Vayots Dzor]] region). While most Areni wines are dry, Vernashen is semi-sweet.
* [http://flowers.hovoson.com/products_170_679_products_winereserveijevan.html ''Ijevan''] – a dry white wine from the [[Tavush]] region (Lalvari grape). Semi-sweet red Ijevan is produced from the Kakhet grape in Tavush, while dry red Ijevan is made from Areni grapes and is properly classified as an Areni wine.<ref>[http://www.vsprogress.ru/catalog/?id=7 Ijevan Winery] {{ru icon}}</ref>


== [[Rick Neuheisel]] ==
==Notes==
{{reflist|2}}


Thank you very much for your quick attention to my revision (237204266) of this article. I made this edit quite on the spur of the moment. If in my haste I committed a factual, stylistic, or grammatical error here, you need not hesitate to bring it to my attention--if you prefer, by all means point it out on the discussion page of article [[Rick Neuheisel]]. I will be glad to revise my work if I am in error. Let me know what I can do to reach an edit satisfactory to both of us. We seem to share a kindred spirit in our support of Bruin football, and I look forward to conversing with you! [[User:Lantana11|Lantana11]] ([[User talk:Lantana11|talk]]) 03:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Lantana11[[User:Lantana11|Lantana11]] ([[User talk:Lantana11|talk]]) 03:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
==General references==
*The Cuisine of Armenia by Sonia Uvezian, Dikran Palulian (Illustrator)
*Armenian Food: Fact, Fiction & Folklore, Irina Petrosian and David Underwood


== External links ==
== [[Rick Neuheisel]] ==
*[http://www.saintsarkis.org/laydies_guild_cookbook.htm ''Adventures in Armenian Cooking''], St. Sarkis Armenian Apostolic Church, Indian Orchard, MA
*[http://www.menu.am/eng/ Armenian Cuisine]
*[http://armenianfood.blogspot.com/ Armenian Food Blog]
*[http://www.armenianfood.ru/index.php ArmenianFood.ru — an extensive selection of Armenian dishes with recipes] {{ru icon}}.
*[http://hats.xside.ru/ Armenian cuisine — hundreds of recipes organized by courses] {{ru icon}}.
*[http://cooking-book.ru/national/armenia/ Armenian cuisine — a compact list of 78 Armenian dishes] {{ru icon}}.
*[http://www.armnet.ru/kuhnya.htm Armenian cooking — a general description of Armenian cuisine, including 90 recipes] {{ru icon}}.


Please look at the edit history of this article and its related "diffs." I had nothing to do with the "goat" nonsense, whatever on earth that is. I did not include it, did not re-insert it, and I can assure you that only by some accident did that line reappear in the article; perhaps I was inadvertently working on the wrong version and saved it. My edits were as follows: I added to the story of the 1984 Rose Bowl by including the date (January 2, which I thought was a significant point because January 1 was a Sunday, which moved the Tournament of Roses to the next day); I also included the fact that the Bruins' victory, an entirely unexpected rout over the "Fighting Illini", made the team worthy of a national ranking. I embellished the summary of this game and Neuheisel's efforts in part because I was there, and I still cherish the memory of that afternoon. A closer look at the history of this article shows that the "goat" foolishness was added by User 24.124.127.57, whoever he is; with additions like this he understandably wishes to be anonymous. I approach the Rick Neuheisel article, and your page, with all good faith, support, and friendship. I have taken the liberty of reinserting my edits to the article. Thank you, Nick.
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[[User:Lantana11|Lantana11]] ([[User talk:Lantana11|talk]]) 05:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Lantana11[[User:Lantana11|Lantana11]] ([[User talk:Lantana11|talk]]) 05:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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* I will tell Rick that you enjoyed the game when I see him next. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 22:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Just to add-- ==
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I would greatly appreciate that; I have long been an admirer of his. We seem to share some common subjects of interest, not the least of which is the [[Tournament of Roses]], of which I have been a frequent attendee. I also once lived in your ZIP code as well...I miss it. Nick [[User:Lantana11|Lantana11]] ([[User talk:Lantana11|talk]]) 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Lantana11[[User:Lantana11|Lantana11]] ([[User talk:Lantana11|talk]]) 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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[[es:Gastronomía de Armenia]]
* Yes, the Queen and Court tryouts will be started soon at the Tournament of Roses. Our President will also announce the Grand Marshal, should be someone from the entertainment business to match his theme "Hats off to Enteraintment." [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 06:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
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==I know from the internet==
I do research on the internet - that is how I know about them :) [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 21:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
* BTW there are several LAUSD schools that need photos. If you have a digital camera please upload photos of LAUSD campuses onto the [[Wikimedia Commons]]. Schools that need photos are:
* <s>[[University High School (Los Angeles)]]</s>
* [[Emerson Middle School (Los Angeles)]]
* <s>Warner Avenue ES (for [[Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California]] and [[Westwood, Los Angeles, California]])</s>
* Roscomare Road ES (for [[Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California]])
* Community Magnet Charter School (for [[Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California]])
* [[Paul Revere Charter Middle School]]
* Kenter Canyon Elementary School (for [[Brentwood, Los Angeles, California]])
* Brockton Avenue Elementary School (for [[Brentwood, Los Angeles, California]])
* Brentwood Science Magnet Elementary School ([[Brentwood, Los Angeles, California]])
* Pacific Palisades Elementary School (for [[Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles, California]] and [[Brentwood, Los Angeles, California]])
* Marquez Elementary School (for [[Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles, California]])
* <s>Westwood Elementary School (for [[Westwood, Los Angeles, California]])</s>
* Faorburn Elementary School (for [[Westwood, Los Angeles, California]])
Also it would be nice if one got a bigger photo of [[Palisades Charter High School]] :)
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 22:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

* I don't go out of my way to take pictures. :) [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 22:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

==Los Angeles areas==
Hmm - I understood that neighborhood councils and community areas are distinct - but I'm trying to figure out which is better to describe the community - Or we could mention both (i.e. XX Neighborhood council and YY community area) [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 04:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

* Communities are the legal names. Additionally, sub-communities are noted in the community plans and signs are put up. For example, you can see "Pico-Union" signs are put up in the Pico-Union area of the Westlake community. There are many sub-communities in a community. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 04:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
** So, if Pico-Union is a community within Westlake, we can refer to West Adams High School as being in the Pico-Union area of the Westlake community, correct? [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 05:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

* West Adams serves South Central, Wilshire, and Westlake communities. West Adams is located at Washington Blvd and Vermont Ave., southwest on the Pico Union Neighborhood Council map, whereas Pico Union is the brown area in Westlake community on the map., as outlined by the blue dotted lines. I will have to take a look to see what community area signs are put up by the school. No question the Pico-Union signs are not located there. Pico Union signs should be located east of Hoover Ave. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 05:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

** This sentence for Los Angeles High School "The attendance boundary consists of a contrasting spectrum of economic diversity ranging from affluent Hancock Park to the low-income, densely populated immigrant community of the Pico-Union District." is totally wrong. Don't know there such thing as "Pico-Union District". See [[Pico-Union]]. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 05:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

*** Regarding West Adams, its address is indeed 1500 W. Washington Blvd. - The address, though, appears within the brown border in this map: http://cityplanning.lacity.org/complan/cnc/citywd_nc/pdf/picounion_nc.pdf - The school is next to the intersection of South Vermont and West Washington. The map says that the Pico Union Neighborhood Council extends to the Santa Monica Freeway - the brown border exists within the Wilshire, Westlake, AND South Los Angeles community areas. However this also proves that the school is within the South Los Angeles Community area, NOT the Wilshire community area. I corrected that in the article. Now as for LAHS and Pico Union, this is likely no longer true because of the fact that West Adams opened. I think the "Pico-Union District" thing is just casual speech. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 07:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

1. The templates give community names, but there is not much else that I see. In other words, does the Los Angeles WikiProject have guidelines on how to determine the correct community? What are the tools that a user can use?

2. Regarding "correct" communities and neighborhoods, this will have to have a reference. The neat thing about community neighborhood or council boundary maps is that they provide a reference for saying "X is in Y community or Z this." As per [[WP:V]] things generally need to be referenced, so having these maps really help. Of course address name in the case of the San Fernando Valley help too.
* "Even with these communities, there are number of errors. For example Temple-Beaudry in not located within Pico-Union." - Is Temple-Beaudry where the Belmont Learning Complex is? If so, the map that I used, which was published on the City of Los Angeles website, does not show that particular area as being within Pico Union (I used the map with the brown in it, which doesn't match the map you cited at laalmanac.com). If not, then is there a correct or "correct" map published by a different agency in Los Angeles?
3. I am aware that definitions of actual neighborhoods can vary depending on the source. Sometimes I like to use homeowner's association maps. Other times I go by the address.

So, how can we determine which object is in which neighborhood? Some neighborhoods have homeowner's associations (i.e. Hancock Park), but there are some that do not. How are we to "define" the neighborhood in the cases of the homes that do not have neighborhood associations? In other words, if there is a verifiable source that gives "narrower" boundaries of a particular community, we could use that source instead of a neighborhood council, etc. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 00:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 00:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Alright, this one http://www.crala.net/internet-site/Projects/Pico_Union_1/upload/2008PicoUnion1and2Map.pdf is a good source - I suppose we can use that to define what is in Pico Union and what is near Pico Union. BTW, I was looking for something like this map - A Wikipedia list of neighborhoods couldn't be used to necessarily "cite" anything since Wikipedia cannot use itself as a source; but this Pico Union map here is great. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

* See also [[Harvard Heights, Los Angeles, California]], which defines the relations to Koreatown, Pico-Union, West Adams, and Arlington Heights. West Adams Prep. High School is located just on the south side of Washington Blvd. of Harvard Heights south boundary and which places it into [[West Adams, Los Angeles, California|West Adams]]. The city planning community map is the official "cite" and LA Almanac maps are not bad, but have errors as pointed out. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 01:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
* I think it depends on what the kids choose, as Belmont, Contreras, and the Belmont LC all share an attendance zone. There are a bunch of smaller schools that also share Belmont's zone. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
* Then Contreras should be added to your list. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 01:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

===Westlake===

I'm not convinced that Pico-Union is a subdivision of Westlake... the PU neighborhood council map that you link to above seems to put them at the same level, as separate districts, no? I live in Westlake, and never imagined it stretching below Olympic &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 02:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

: But if you look at the Westlake plan map [http://cityplanning.lacity.org/complan/central/pdf/genlumap.wlk.pdf], you see the same area on both maps [http://www.crala.net/internet-site/Projects/Pico_Union_1/upload/2008PicoUnion1and2Map.pdf]. And the PU Neighborhood Council Map [http://cityplanning.lacity.org/complan/cnc/citywd_nc/pdf/picounion_nc.pdf] shows the three communities (blue dotted lines) -- Wilshire, South Los Angeles, and Westlake (Pico-Union district not even mentioned). I was vice-chair of the advisory committee and we went through all that and still has the fancy scroll of Pico-Union Committee on my wall. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 02:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

::Well then, I stand corrected. Welcome to my neighborhood &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 02:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

* I must say different people use different name for different area of Pico-Union and Westlake. Media have use Pico-Union incorrectly for years, stretching them all over the place when reporting incidents. Like I said, why Temple-Beaudry listed under Pico-Union and [[Byzantine-Latino Quarter]] in Echo Park-Westlake on the [[List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles]]? I have tried to correct LA Times and others, but reporters said people called themselves Pico-Union. Pico-Union is third worst area in LA, and why would anybody want to be associated with it? The late LA Times columnist [[Jack Smith (columnist)]] and another columnist hated it when Westlake park was changed to MacArthur park. They campaigned to have it changed back. BTW there's a movement to bring back Westlake Theater. [[User:Ucla90024|Ucla90024]] ([[User talk:Ucla90024#top|talk]]) 03:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

::Oooh, tell me where and when, I'd love to see the theater revived... people can buy their discount socks elsewhere! &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 04:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
The image guidelines/policies on dead people is that one may use a fair use image of the person as long as there is no free alternative. If you have photographs of the subject, think about if the photographs represent the popular depiction of the subject. If it seems that your photos would portray the subject as he would be known throughout the US, then the guidelines would prefer your photos instead of the FU photos. However I am not the most experienced on photo policies, so please see [[Wikipedia:Non-free content]], [[Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy]], and the associated talk pages if you have any further questions.
As for --Then you wanted "This section does not cite any references or sources." for list of alumni. That would be hard to do with a long list. I have a list from the LAUSD and have verified with some high schools-- If there's a list from LAUSD then it should be easy to reference most of them - Just repeat the same reference over and over for those that the list covers. See what I did at [[Lamar High School (Houston)]] [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 19:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
* Thank you very much for the photos :) [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 11:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[:Template:User BRUIN ALUM]] ==

On the [[Talk:University of California, Los Angeles#userbox|UCLA talk page]] you mentioned that you preferred the <span style="color: yellow; font-weight: bold; background-color: blue;padding: 2 px;">previous</span> color scheme of this template. I can't say I disagree with you. The [http://www.identity.ucla.edu/graphicstandards/UCLAStandardsManual0904.pdf graphics standards] document offered the official color choices, so I tried them. I'll be curious to see whether there is consensus to observe the standard or revert these colors. Thanks for your input. [[User:Newportm|Newportm]] ([[User talk:Newportm|talk]]) 17:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:You mentioned {{quotation|True, that's the official university color. The athletic department use their own True Blue color of blue. They have used different shades of blue and called different names. The current color of blue polo shirts by Adidas is best. Ucla90024 (talk) 17:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Newportm"}}
:If you prefer the <span style="color: yellow; font-weight: bold; background-color: blue;padding: 2 px;">"Bear Wear"</span> color scheme, and wish to add a UCLA userbox to your [[User:Ucla90024|user page]], you might like [[:Template:User bruin]]. [[User:Newportm|Newportm]] ([[User talk:Newportm|talk]]) 02:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

== Overland Avenue School ==
The school seems to be in the Palms/Century City/West Los Angeles area. I'm not sure what boundaries would put it in exactly what community, but the school seems to be in one of the three communities. I think it is most likely in "West Los Angeles" - I wonder if the LA Times did a report on West LA; if so it could mention what schools that are considered to serve West LA. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 11:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Alumni list ==
The reason why I did blanket removals like that is because of [[WP:BLP]] (I know not everyone on the list is alive, but some people are) and [[WP:V]] - Our criterion for inclusion is ''verifiability'', not ''truth'' - i.e. we have to be able to verify that such is the case. Anyhow, if there is a list of notable LAUSD alumni, please campaign to make it public so we can reference it. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 13:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
==WP OWN and edit warring==
You seem to suffer from [[Wikipedia:Ownership of articles|WP:OWN]] on [[Tournament of Roses Parade]]. Your edits to the article today have not been productive. If you'd like to take it to the talk page to discuss them, fine. Your two edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tournament_of_Roses_Parade&diff=243470879&oldid=243459832 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tournament_of_Roses_Parade&diff=243482016&oldid=243481075 here] show that you are now edit warring by making simple reversions. Let this note serve as you [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|3RR warning]]. [[User:Newport Backbay|Newport Backbay]] ([[User talk:Newport Backbay|talk]]) 18:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== a suggestion ==

You may not want to remove editor's comments on their own talk page as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Newport_Backbay&curid=18477880&diff=243494277&oldid=243485930 here].--[[User:Rockfang|Rockfang]] ([[User talk:Rockfang|talk]]) 20:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== UCLA player/coach pictures ==

Hi, we both seem to cross paths with our interests in LA football and our associated schools. I saw your note that you saw Norm Chow --I assume you're sometimes on the UCLA campus. Have you considered visiting a practice to get key player/coach photos? I've done it once for a USC practice and covered nearly all the key people on the roster --just by politely asking to take their photo (I really only had one shot since I live in MN but was in town that day). Since I know you're into these topics, I thought I'd throw the idea out there. All the best. --[[User:Bobak|Bobak]] ([[User talk:Bobak|talk]]) 14:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Photo uploading ==
Hi, UCLA! I'll check out the deletion. If pictures are proven to be copyrighted, they can be deleted. But if your picture was not copyrighted and it was made by you it should not have been deleted. I'll check it out :) [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:07, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*I'll check out the commons to see if he stated why he deleted it... [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*The three images that were deleted were listed at [[:commons:User_talk:Ucla90024]] - Let's see what the deletion requests say... the pages should explain why the request was made. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
If you want to, please talk to [[:commons:User_talk:BrokenSphere]] on the commons: he has a talk page and he can say more. I cannot look at the image as I am not an admin on the commons. However, I understand that if you take a photo of a statue solely showing the statue or a photo of a work of art solely showing the work, you cannot claim public domain if the work of art is copyrighted. However you should be fine uploading school photos. School photos can be claimed as PD. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the Rose Bowl, the photos themselves weren't deleted. This is a [[Wikipedia:Content dispute]] over which images to include in a particular article. I would either talk on the other guy's talk page and/or on the talk page and ask why. Anyway, this should not affect uploading of school images. Please upload the school images and put them in their articles. I'll look at the parade article. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
* Please check the talk page. :) [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 01:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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  • I added the tag for you. Please feel free to fix it. --evrik (talk) 13:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks

finaly got the image uploaded and ran out of time to make the format good. thanks. What other images do you think we dhould add Saltysailor (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Nice to have a pic for each section. Could use a pic of White suiters (group perferable), presidents, float testing, grand marshals, Rose Bowl or game photo. I have too many pictures to go through, they are slides and negatives Ucla90024 (talk) 16:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

image police

bots and admins have been gettn tough on images that are not clearly free Saltysailor (talk) 21:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

exactly

是! Amiens984 (talk) 09:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

  • 一点点。。。

write me here Amiens984 (talk) 09:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ucla90024!

You listed a request at WP:3O that was malformed. I would like to get the request fixed for you, but there seems to be no talk page where any discussion is actually taking place on the issue. I am going to remove the request for now, but please relist it once you have begun a discussion (preferably at Talk:United States Army) about the issue. Other editors there may help to decide concensus without needing the third opinion. If you need help listing the discussion correctly, feel free to ask. Jim Miller (talk) 01:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Thanks. But the discussion was at his talk page: [[1]]. He just keep saying a picture is bias when other unit pictures are not provided. It's an impossible job to have a picture of all units and every picture is bias in one way. Ucla90024 (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Good work

Thanks for your contributions to Southern Californian politicians and places. You're making Wikipedia a better encyclopedia. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 16:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your quick attention to my revision (237204266) of this article. I made this edit quite on the spur of the moment. If in my haste I committed a factual, stylistic, or grammatical error here, you need not hesitate to bring it to my attention--if you prefer, by all means point it out on the discussion page of article Rick Neuheisel. I will be glad to revise my work if I am in error. Let me know what I can do to reach an edit satisfactory to both of us. We seem to share a kindred spirit in our support of Bruin football, and I look forward to conversing with you! Lantana11 (talk) 03:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Lantana11Lantana11 (talk) 03:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Please look at the edit history of this article and its related "diffs." I had nothing to do with the "goat" nonsense, whatever on earth that is. I did not include it, did not re-insert it, and I can assure you that only by some accident did that line reappear in the article; perhaps I was inadvertently working on the wrong version and saved it. My edits were as follows: I added to the story of the 1984 Rose Bowl by including the date (January 2, which I thought was a significant point because January 1 was a Sunday, which moved the Tournament of Roses to the next day); I also included the fact that the Bruins' victory, an entirely unexpected rout over the "Fighting Illini", made the team worthy of a national ranking. I embellished the summary of this game and Neuheisel's efforts in part because I was there, and I still cherish the memory of that afternoon. A closer look at the history of this article shows that the "goat" foolishness was added by User 24.124.127.57, whoever he is; with additions like this he understandably wishes to be anonymous. I approach the Rick Neuheisel article, and your page, with all good faith, support, and friendship. I have taken the liberty of reinserting my edits to the article. Thank you, Nick. Lantana11 (talk) 05:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Lantana11Lantana11 (talk) 05:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

  • I will tell Rick that you enjoyed the game when I see him next. Ucla90024 (talk) 22:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Just to add--

I would greatly appreciate that; I have long been an admirer of his. We seem to share some common subjects of interest, not the least of which is the Tournament of Roses, of which I have been a frequent attendee. I also once lived in your ZIP code as well...I miss it. Nick Lantana11 (talk) 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Lantana11Lantana11 (talk) 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Yes, the Queen and Court tryouts will be started soon at the Tournament of Roses. Our President will also announce the Grand Marshal, should be someone from the entertainment business to match his theme "Hats off to Enteraintment." Ucla90024 (talk) 06:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I know from the internet

I do research on the internet - that is how I know about them :) WhisperToMe (talk) 21:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Also it would be nice if one got a bigger photo of Palisades Charter High School :) WhisperToMe (talk) 22:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

  • I don't go out of my way to take pictures. :) Ucla90024 (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles areas

Hmm - I understood that neighborhood councils and community areas are distinct - but I'm trying to figure out which is better to describe the community - Or we could mention both (i.e. XX Neighborhood council and YY community area) WhisperToMe (talk) 04:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Communities are the legal names. Additionally, sub-communities are noted in the community plans and signs are put up. For example, you can see "Pico-Union" signs are put up in the Pico-Union area of the Westlake community. There are many sub-communities in a community. Ucla90024 (talk) 04:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
    • So, if Pico-Union is a community within Westlake, we can refer to West Adams High School as being in the Pico-Union area of the Westlake community, correct? WhisperToMe (talk) 05:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
  • West Adams serves South Central, Wilshire, and Westlake communities. West Adams is located at Washington Blvd and Vermont Ave., southwest on the Pico Union Neighborhood Council map, whereas Pico Union is the brown area in Westlake community on the map., as outlined by the blue dotted lines. I will have to take a look to see what community area signs are put up by the school. No question the Pico-Union signs are not located there. Pico Union signs should be located east of Hoover Ave. Ucla90024 (talk) 05:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
    • This sentence for Los Angeles High School "The attendance boundary consists of a contrasting spectrum of economic diversity ranging from affluent Hancock Park to the low-income, densely populated immigrant community of the Pico-Union District." is totally wrong. Don't know there such thing as "Pico-Union District". See Pico-Union. Ucla90024 (talk) 05:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Regarding West Adams, its address is indeed 1500 W. Washington Blvd. - The address, though, appears within the brown border in this map: http://cityplanning.lacity.org/complan/cnc/citywd_nc/pdf/picounion_nc.pdf - The school is next to the intersection of South Vermont and West Washington. The map says that the Pico Union Neighborhood Council extends to the Santa Monica Freeway - the brown border exists within the Wilshire, Westlake, AND South Los Angeles community areas. However this also proves that the school is within the South Los Angeles Community area, NOT the Wilshire community area. I corrected that in the article. Now as for LAHS and Pico Union, this is likely no longer true because of the fact that West Adams opened. I think the "Pico-Union District" thing is just casual speech. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

1. The templates give community names, but there is not much else that I see. In other words, does the Los Angeles WikiProject have guidelines on how to determine the correct community? What are the tools that a user can use?

2. Regarding "correct" communities and neighborhoods, this will have to have a reference. The neat thing about community neighborhood or council boundary maps is that they provide a reference for saying "X is in Y community or Z this." As per WP:V things generally need to be referenced, so having these maps really help. Of course address name in the case of the San Fernando Valley help too.

  • "Even with these communities, there are number of errors. For example Temple-Beaudry in not located within Pico-Union." - Is Temple-Beaudry where the Belmont Learning Complex is? If so, the map that I used, which was published on the City of Los Angeles website, does not show that particular area as being within Pico Union (I used the map with the brown in it, which doesn't match the map you cited at laalmanac.com). If not, then is there a correct or "correct" map published by a different agency in Los Angeles?

3. I am aware that definitions of actual neighborhoods can vary depending on the source. Sometimes I like to use homeowner's association maps. Other times I go by the address.

So, how can we determine which object is in which neighborhood? Some neighborhoods have homeowner's associations (i.e. Hancock Park), but there are some that do not. How are we to "define" the neighborhood in the cases of the homes that do not have neighborhood associations? In other words, if there is a verifiable source that gives "narrower" boundaries of a particular community, we could use that source instead of a neighborhood council, etc. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Alright, this one http://www.crala.net/internet-site/Projects/Pico_Union_1/upload/2008PicoUnion1and2Map.pdf is a good source - I suppose we can use that to define what is in Pico Union and what is near Pico Union. BTW, I was looking for something like this map - A Wikipedia list of neighborhoods couldn't be used to necessarily "cite" anything since Wikipedia cannot use itself as a source; but this Pico Union map here is great. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

  • See also Harvard Heights, Los Angeles, California, which defines the relations to Koreatown, Pico-Union, West Adams, and Arlington Heights. West Adams Prep. High School is located just on the south side of Washington Blvd. of Harvard Heights south boundary and which places it into West Adams. The city planning community map is the official "cite" and LA Almanac maps are not bad, but have errors as pointed out. Ucla90024 (talk) 01:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I think it depends on what the kids choose, as Belmont, Contreras, and the Belmont LC all share an attendance zone. There are a bunch of smaller schools that also share Belmont's zone. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Then Contreras should be added to your list. Ucla90024 (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Westlake

I'm not convinced that Pico-Union is a subdivision of Westlake... the PU neighborhood council map that you link to above seems to put them at the same level, as separate districts, no? I live in Westlake, and never imagined it stretching below Olympic – cacahuate talk 02:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

But if you look at the Westlake plan map [2], you see the same area on both maps [3]. And the PU Neighborhood Council Map [4] shows the three communities (blue dotted lines) -- Wilshire, South Los Angeles, and Westlake (Pico-Union district not even mentioned). I was vice-chair of the advisory committee and we went through all that and still has the fancy scroll of Pico-Union Committee on my wall. Ucla90024 (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Well then, I stand corrected. Welcome to my neighborhood – cacahuate talk 02:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I must say different people use different name for different area of Pico-Union and Westlake. Media have use Pico-Union incorrectly for years, stretching them all over the place when reporting incidents. Like I said, why Temple-Beaudry listed under Pico-Union and Byzantine-Latino Quarter in Echo Park-Westlake on the List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles? I have tried to correct LA Times and others, but reporters said people called themselves Pico-Union. Pico-Union is third worst area in LA, and why would anybody want to be associated with it? The late LA Times columnist Jack Smith (columnist) and another columnist hated it when Westlake park was changed to MacArthur park. They campaigned to have it changed back. BTW there's a movement to bring back Westlake Theater. Ucla90024 (talk) 03:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Oooh, tell me where and when, I'd love to see the theater revived... people can buy their discount socks elsewhere! – cacahuate talk 04:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Images

The image guidelines/policies on dead people is that one may use a fair use image of the person as long as there is no free alternative. If you have photographs of the subject, think about if the photographs represent the popular depiction of the subject. If it seems that your photos would portray the subject as he would be known throughout the US, then the guidelines would prefer your photos instead of the FU photos. However I am not the most experienced on photo policies, so please see Wikipedia:Non-free content, Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy, and the associated talk pages if you have any further questions. As for --Then you wanted "This section does not cite any references or sources." for list of alumni. That would be hard to do with a long list. I have a list from the LAUSD and have verified with some high schools-- If there's a list from LAUSD then it should be easy to reference most of them - Just repeat the same reference over and over for those that the list covers. See what I did at Lamar High School (Houston) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Thank you very much for the photos :) WhisperToMe (talk) 11:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

On the UCLA talk page you mentioned that you preferred the previous color scheme of this template. I can't say I disagree with you. The graphics standards document offered the official color choices, so I tried them. I'll be curious to see whether there is consensus to observe the standard or revert these colors. Thanks for your input. Newportm (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

You mentioned

True, that's the official university color. The athletic department use their own True Blue color of blue. They have used different shades of blue and called different names. The current color of blue polo shirts by Adidas is best. Ucla90024 (talk) 17:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Newportm"

If you prefer the "Bear Wear" color scheme, and wish to add a UCLA userbox to your user page, you might like Template:User bruin. Newportm (talk) 02:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Overland Avenue School

The school seems to be in the Palms/Century City/West Los Angeles area. I'm not sure what boundaries would put it in exactly what community, but the school seems to be in one of the three communities. I think it is most likely in "West Los Angeles" - I wonder if the LA Times did a report on West LA; if so it could mention what schools that are considered to serve West LA. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Alumni list

The reason why I did blanket removals like that is because of WP:BLP (I know not everyone on the list is alive, but some people are) and WP:V - Our criterion for inclusion is verifiability, not truth - i.e. we have to be able to verify that such is the case. Anyhow, if there is a list of notable LAUSD alumni, please campaign to make it public so we can reference it. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

WP OWN and edit warring

You seem to suffer from WP:OWN on Tournament of Roses Parade. Your edits to the article today have not been productive. If you'd like to take it to the talk page to discuss them, fine. Your two edits here and here show that you are now edit warring by making simple reversions. Let this note serve as you 3RR warning. Newport Backbay (talk) 18:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

a suggestion

You may not want to remove editor's comments on their own talk page as you did here.--Rockfang (talk) 20:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

UCLA player/coach pictures

Hi, we both seem to cross paths with our interests in LA football and our associated schools. I saw your note that you saw Norm Chow --I assume you're sometimes on the UCLA campus. Have you considered visiting a practice to get key player/coach photos? I've done it once for a USC practice and covered nearly all the key people on the roster --just by politely asking to take their photo (I really only had one shot since I live in MN but was in town that day). Since I know you're into these topics, I thought I'd throw the idea out there. All the best. --Bobak (talk) 14:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Photo uploading

Hi, UCLA! I'll check out the deletion. If pictures are proven to be copyrighted, they can be deleted. But if your picture was not copyrighted and it was made by you it should not have been deleted. I'll check it out :) WhisperToMe (talk) 01:07, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

  • I'll check out the commons to see if he stated why he deleted it... WhisperToMe (talk) 01:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
  • The three images that were deleted were listed at commons:User_talk:Ucla90024 - Let's see what the deletion requests say... the pages should explain why the request was made. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

If you want to, please talk to commons:User_talk:BrokenSphere on the commons: he has a talk page and he can say more. I cannot look at the image as I am not an admin on the commons. However, I understand that if you take a photo of a statue solely showing the statue or a photo of a work of art solely showing the work, you cannot claim public domain if the work of art is copyrighted. However you should be fine uploading school photos. School photos can be claimed as PD. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the Rose Bowl, the photos themselves weren't deleted. This is a Wikipedia:Content dispute over which images to include in a particular article. I would either talk on the other guy's talk page and/or on the talk page and ask why. Anyway, this should not affect uploading of school images. Please upload the school images and put them in their articles. I'll look at the parade article. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Please check the talk page. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 01:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)