Talk:Dreams from My Father

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Necessary Citations/Amendments

There are several statements that need to be validated.

  • "Obama enrolled at Occidental College, where he describes living a "party" lifestyle of drug and alcohol use."
My understanding was that the party lifestyle of drug and alcohol use was mostly during his high school years.Davemcarlson 07:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "transferred to Columbia College at Columbia University, where he majored in political science."
My understanding was that he majored in international relations. Can someone verify? Davemcarlson 07:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was during his time spent here [as a community organizer] that Obama joined Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ."
I believe this happened later, after he returned from Harvard Law School. I think he joined Trinity with his wife (it's in The Audacity of Hope, but I don't have time to look it up right now), whom he married after graduating from Harvard (age 26-28 or so). I think that Obama wasn't at a place where he felt able to commit to any church until after he went to Kenya, which was after the community organizing Davemcarlson 07:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

have the time to look everything up, but the drug and alcohol lifestyle extended from high school to his times at Occidental. The book mentions that once he transfers to Columbia his life changes (he starts jogging every day, stops drugs and finds excuses every time his friends call him for drinks). UnknownParadox 00:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Linkage Issues

For some reason, Barack's father and mother both link back to him, which is really odd. We need to fix these link issues. Gautam Discuss 02:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Bill Ayers as Obama's ghostwriter

I see no reason why American Thinker shouldn't be considered an RS. IMO, the article make a convincing case that Obama is unlikely to have written this book himself. The part about Bill Ayers is more speculative, but speculation can be included if it is clearly labeled as such. Kauffner (talk) 03:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See our article on The American Thinker for why it's not a reliable source. See also Questionable sources, which this definitely is. Reverting. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Did you actually read the article that you are referring to? It says that AT has been quoted in the New York Times and other major papers. We have higher standard than they do?
I did a check on who's been reverting this passage. It's anonymous IPs in Britain and Australia. I don't what to make of that. Kauffner (talk) 09:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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