Talk:World Tag Team Championship (WWE, 1971–2010)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 08:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC) World Tag-Team Championship → World Tag Team Championship – The more common version of the title is without the dash. Redirect at World Tag Team Championship has page history preventing simple renaming.[reply]

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Kenny is not the youngest person to hold the belt

He is over twenty now, Dupree held the belt at 19.

Heaviest Champions

Aren't the Natural Disasters the heaviest tag-team at 852 lbs.?

I'm not sure if it counts because there are five of them, but the Spirit Squad weigh a combined 1144 lbs.

The Squad are the youngest.

Even though any 2 out of 5 could defend the belts, Kenny and Mikey were the ones who actually won the belts and were listed on WWE.com as the official champions.

So if one were to try to figure in Nicky, Johnny, or Mitch, it wouldn't count.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlh (talk • contribs)

The official website lists the entire group as champions: [1]. All 5 were recognized as champions, so all 5 would have to be combined for stats. Also, remember to sign your comments. TJ Spyke 22:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hardies

hardys are the new champs add it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.225.114.108 (talk) 07:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

not only raw

these titles are now not exlusive to rawe= matt is on smackdown and will remain on smackdown als osince mcman wat to make wwe more interpromotional i recon in time most titles will be interpromotional — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.225.114.108 (talk • contribs)

The Gregory Helms Rule

When you win a Championship from whatever brand, you become part of that brand's roster.

Mr. Helms set the precedent when he (as a Raw wrestler) won Smackdown's Cruiserweight Title, and subsequently moved there. Same idea with Matt Hardy--Smackdown wrestler who wins Raw Title becomes Raw wrestler.

There is no "inter-promotional" anything. Matt is a Raw Wrestler who holds Raw's tag team belts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohgltxg (talk • contribs)

Nope. WWE.com still lists Matt Hardy as part of the SmackDown roster. Besides, weren't Paul London and Brian Kendrick, the WWE Tag Team Champions, in that battle royal as well?--sonicKAI 22:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WWE PPV events are no longer bland-specific, so this title (and all others in WWE) are no longer specific to any one brand. They are primarily defended on their respective brands, but the separation between the rosters is increasingly vague. King Of Cable 22:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ehh no. The fact that PPVs are no longer "brand"-specific has nothing to do with what show a title is defended on. Go take a good long read at http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldtagteam/ WWE's World Tag Team title history page.-- bulletproof ^3:16 00:35, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 05:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WWF Tag Team Championship

Please stop reverting my changes before this turns into an editing war. The WWF never referd to any of there titels as world titles, if you look at any material befor the brand extintion you would see this. several writers might have referd to them as that but the wwf never did.

The Raw titles (those that were created in 1971) are the World Tag Team titles, those on Smackdown are referred to as the WWE Tag Team titles. I have a magazine by WWE published on 3/6/07 which lists all nine current championships, and it calls them, the World Tag Team Championship. You are vandalising this page if you revert. Darrenhusted 13:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the source you sighted was published 4 and a half years after the nanme was changed. It is courently known as the world championship but before 2002 it was not referd to as that by the wwe. refering to it as that would be like refering to the WWF before that year as the WWE, it is commonly done but incerect. 216.162.144.26 14:44 22 July 2007

Oi oi oi. I love how the "premier" editors of wikipedia have no memory of events. The fact is that prior to 2002, WWE didn't refer to ANY of their championships as "World Titles" for several years. Perhaps early on in the 70's and 80's the words World and Heavyweight were used, but I can point back to at least 1999, my first year watching, where neither word was used in an official manner for any Federation championship.

Come 2002, with the need to have dual-level championships for two brands, WWE began refering to one championship of the Heavyweight and Tag Team ranks each as "World". For the Tag Team Titles, they decided to use the original WWE Tag Team Championship as it was already on the brand with the World Heavyweight Title.

Now as far as looking back at history, when it comes to title history, it's much easier for WWE to look back at the entire WWE Tag Team Championship history and just refer to the whole thing as World Tag Team Titles without having to explain goofy name changes. But that doesn't change the fact that the titles were NOT known as that at the time.

Darren, your "source" will list every regin as occuring under WWE (or the WWWF). By stating that all past reigns were known as "World Tag Team Titles" due to a WWE publication in 2007, then it would be hypocritical of you to leave the old reigns as "WWF", since that's not how WWE sees it today.

And before you say "it wasn't WWE at the time", hopefully you'll realize that "it wasn't the World Tag Team Titles" at the time. Mshake3 23:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mshake, if you look at the edits that 216 etc was trying to make you'll see whay I said what I said, they were trying to remove the word "World" from the title of the article all through, so that both tag title would have the same reign. I know the history but the IP was trying to vandalise the page. Darrenhusted 00:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Mshake3 I am glad to know that I am not the only person here that douse not suffer from short term memery loss. I was not vandalissing the page or trying to remove the word world throught the artical, mearly trying to make it historicly acuret. it was referd to as the wwf championship when I started watching in the early 90 and i have seen tapes going back to the early 80's where it was not referd to as the world title. it might have been referd to as that at one point during the companies time as the wwwf, never as the wwf. 216.162.144.26 02:54 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I think what the original poster was trying to say was that there was a time during the attitude era and 90's era WWF specifically that they did not refer to them as the WWF World Tag Team Championship, rather just the WWF Tag Team Championship. WWF I think reduced their use of the word "world" in order to avoid confusion with WCW titles, for whatever reason, that's just my opinion on why they reduced use of "world". TonyFreakinAlmeida 15:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And that's true. They just didn't use the World or Heavyweight qualifiers that most companies did. Mshake3

I agree with you in that, Mshake3; despite that it was officially known as the World Wrestling Federation/Entertainment (WWF/E) World Tag Team Championship.

P.S.: I think IMHO that both the heavyweight and tag team championships of both RAW and SmackDown! should be have "World title" status. For example:

RAW

WWE World Heavyweight Championship (original/RAW version)
WWE World Tag Team Championship (original/RAW version)

SmackDown!

WWE World Heavyweight Championship (alternate/SmackDown! version)
WWE World Tag Team Championship (alternate/SmackDown! version)

Or the WWE should try to revive WCW as a brand just like they did with ECW. Because WWE SmackDown is like almost exactly like of what WCW originally was (in terms of championship belts and action) while RAW should remain as WWE was during the Attitude era. Johnluisocasio (talk) 20:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New champs: London and Kendrick, proof

So get over yourself and your "job."

File:Londonkendrickwttc.jpg

WWE.com hasn't confirmed it yet, so it stays out until they do so. I'm sorry, but it's the rules. And, by the way, it looks like Kendrick was cropped out of a different picture in that image. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 23:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, stay in denial. You just can't admit you're wrong and feel important patrolling a web site.

For your information, London and Kendrick are my favourite current tag team and I would be quite happy if this was true. But, Wikipedia's rules are that there are no spoilers, so this stays out until WWE or confirms it. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 23:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is on an international tour, right? I bet they lose the titles back tomorrow. Mshake3 03:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but it's also possible they could have taped the match for TV if they wanted, but you're probably right, it's just a title change to get the live crowd jumping. They will recognize it, and it's only proper IMO for a world championship to change hands overseas from the company's home country every once and a while. TonyFreakinAlmeida 15:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is 2007. WWE doesn't tape matches for TV at house shows. Mshake3 16:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you work for them? I don't care, it was just an assumption, I didn't say it was, but they're probably at least going to acknowledge the title change on TV. TonyFreakinAlmeida 19:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to point that out. WWE hasn`t announced the title change. According to me, it is a spoiler. We had to wait something like 4 days to say that Matt Hardy and MVP won the WWE Tag Team Championships. I don't care that a pro wrestling site said that we have new champs. I thought the rule was that it needed to be shown on their official website or on their programming. I did not see any of that. According to the no spoilers policy, Cade & Murdoch are still the champs. Soopafred 15:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And now you see what a stupid rule it is as it doesn't even consider live event title changes. And it's not a spoiler. You can't be spoiled by a match that won't air on TV. Mshake3 15:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting to wonder if WWE will even acknowledge the change at all, it could go down as an unofficial reign... TonyFreakinAlmeida 17:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they have acknowledged it, plus a change back. http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/articles/5046390/tagtitlesswitch Max85 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Max85 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo dispute.

Ther are two photo's that needed to decided on which to use one is fair use the other is free use.

Fair use: [[:Image:WorldTagTeamChampionship.jpg|200px|center|thumb|

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Free use:

Keep in mind the the free use cuts off the belt.--Monnitewars ^(talk) 21:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Free-use - it doesn't really matter whether it cuts off the belt or not. Davnel03 21:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It does when your trying to describe something and it cuts that thing off.--Monnitewars ^(talk) 21:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm surprised your not complaining about the Womens title page where some of the belt is cut of. Does it really matter though? Really? Davnel03 21:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- To some people yes.--Monnitewars ^(talk) 21:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This should not be considered a dispute. This does not even warrant a discussion. If a free use picture is available, it must be used. Using a "fair use" picture when a free use picture is available is illegal. Case closed. Don't go causing disputes where they're not needed. Your constant edit wars don't help anything. GaryColemanFan 21:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely. What GaryColemanFan says goes. Besides, why do we really need a televion capture in the article? Zenlax ^Talk ^{Contributions} ^Signatures 19:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Titles"

If you want to say "Cade & Murdoch beat London & Kendrick for the titles," then we need to also say "They are the original World Tag Team titles of WWE" in the lead. Winners of the AJPW Triple Crown Championship aren't said to have won "the titles," even though the holder of that championship gets three belts. 69.7.37.69 09:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the entire article is on the "World Tag Team Championship (WWE)", who's going to be confused by the phrase "for the title" and not know which championship is being talking about? Nenog 14:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're missing my point. This is the edit I'm talking about 69.7.37.69 17:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And if you want to say the story is different because it's a tag team championship, it's not. Holders of the AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship get two belts apiece, but it's just as wrong to call those "the titles" because they represent, just as two belts for a tag team do usually, one championship. 69.7.37.69 10:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]