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'''Winthrop''' is a [[town]] in [[Suffolk County, Massachusetts|Suffolk County]], [[Massachusetts]], [[United States]]. The population was 18,303 at the 2000 census. Standing on Winthrop's edge one can see the city of [[Boston]] and [[Deer Island (Massachusetts)|Deer Island]]. |
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== History == |
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The town was first settled in 1635. It was officially incorporated in 1852 and named Winthrop after Deane Winthrop, the son of the first Governor of Massachusetts, [[John Winthrop]], and is one of the four municipalities in Suffolk County (the others are the cities of [[Boston]], [[Revere, Massachusetts|Revere]], and [[Chelsea, Massachusetts|Chelsea]]). It is located on a peninsula, at the beginning of the North Shore, with seven miles of shoreline that provides views of the ocean to the east and of the Boston skyline to the west. |
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Originally part of an area called [[Winnesimmet]] by the [[Native Americans in the United States|Native American]]s, the peninsula was annexed by [[Boston]] in 1632 and within five years became the grazing area for farm animals of the rapidly growing Boston colony. In 1637 it was divided into 15 parcels of land that were given by Governor Winthrop to prominent men in Boston with the stipulation that each must erect a building on his land within two years. Few, if any, of these men ever lived here, but their farms prospered. One of these early houses, built initially during the first half of the 1600s,and rebuilt in 1675, was the home of Governor Winthrop’s youngest son, [[Deane Winthrop]], who lived there until his death in 1703. This house is still standing and is maintained, for public viewing, by the Winthrop Improvement and Historical Association.[http://www.wihaonline.org/] |
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In 1739, what is now Chelsea, Revere, and Winthrop withdrew from Boston due to governmental control disputes and became the Town of Chelsea. Again the desire for more local control resulted in Revere and Winthrop seceding from Chelsea in 1846 to become North Chelsea. Shortly thereafter, in 1852, Winthrop was incorporated as a town in its own right with a Board of Selectmen and Town Meeting form of government. In 1920, Winthrop was the second town in the Commonwealth to apply for and receive a Charter for a Representative Town Meeting, which continued to 2006. |
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'''Archived talk:''' |
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*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (Performed April 1, 2008) |
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== Out of town == |
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In 2006, a new Town Charter, establishing a city form of government, was passed in a special election. The Board of Selectmen and Town Meeting were abolished, and legislative powers were vested in an elected [[Town Council]]. Executive power, largely ceremonial, resides in the Council President, who is popularly elected. An appointed [[Town Manager]] serves as the head of administrative services. |
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I will be gone until Sunday evening, and unable to access the internet during that time. I have been a minor contributor to this page, and trust the judgement of the major editors Ealdgyth, Dana boomer and Montanabw. The edited version of the Health section is viewable at [[User:Getwood/Sandbox/Thoroughbred]]. At the top of the page, edits are viewable. At the bottom of the page is a clean version without strikeouts, etc. I will be happy with whatever the group comes up with (as long as the fragile bones thing stays gone... See [[Wolff's law]] for explanation of bone modeling in response to load). Thanks, and a great weekend to all. [[User:Getwood|Getwood]] ([[User talk:Getwood|talk]]) 15:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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On July 26, 2007, the ''[[Winthrop Sun Transcript]]'' reported that a movement was beginning to abolish the Town Council and return to a Representative Town Meeting. The multi-step process to reverse the changes made by the 2006 charter is quite complex, so it remains to be seen what form of government Winthrop will have going forward. |
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:Anyone want to add the rewrite in the sandbox to the article, or have a problem if I do so? [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 19:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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[[Deer Island (Massachusetts)|Deer Island]], though within the city limits of Boston, is located in [[Winthrop Bay]]. It ceased to be an island in the 1930s when [[Shirley Gut]], which separated it from Winthrop, was filled in. The island has a sordid past as an internment camp for Native Americans during [[King Philip's War]], a quarantine station where many immigrants died, and the site of a county jail. Today the island is home to the mammoth [[Deer Island Waste Water Treatment Plant]], which provides sewage treatment for the Boston area.<ref name="bhidifs">{{cite web| title = Deer Island Factsheet | url = http://www.bostonislands.org/factsheet_template.asp?rsIslands__MMColParam=deer | publisher = Boston Harbor Islands Partnership | accessmonthday = August 21 | accessyear = 2006}}</ref> |
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::I've dropped the section into the article. [[User:Dana boomer|Dana boomer]] ([[User talk:Dana boomer|talk]]) 12:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Winthrop includes [[Snake Island (Massachusetts)|Snake Island]] in [[Boston Harbor]] as well as a portion of [[Logan Airport]]. |
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== Next step == |
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Winthrop has a weekly newspaper, the [[Winthrop Sun Transcript]], which reports local current events, happenings, and concerns. |
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Okay, the next step is probably a peer review. If no one objects, I'll go ahead and list it in the morning, it usually runs for two weeks or so. I'm going to be out of town until the 11th or so. I'll have internet intermittantly, just no library of books, so that'll limit some of my usefulness. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 02:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Shopping== |
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: First peer review is in, and I've done some of the tweaks suggested. The dash thing is easiest to do with a request to a person who has a script that will fix them. I'll do that when we are ready to go to FAC. There are still a few issues at the PR, you can find them by following the link above in the peer review request box where it says "request". [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 14:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Winthrop has a town center with a number of businesses, including [[CVS/pharmacy]], Michael's mall (a small strip mall), Samuel's Pharmacy and Center Pizza. The town center always had a modestly vibrant business community. However, by the mid-1990s, large shopping malls in the nearby [[North Shore]] region of Massachusetts, especially Square One Mall in Saugus, began to drain away measurable amounts of business. A small business community still survives. |
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::Works for me, go for it. My only question is if we want to wait a few more days for the Eight Belles thing to quiet down. I've been reverting stuff on her placed in really odd spots (like the Western riding article. WTF??) |
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==Geography== |
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[[Image:boston_skyline.jpg|thumb|View of Boston from Winthrop's Point Shirley (photo taken in August 2003)]] |
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::FYI, per a previous edit, I made yet another tweak to the "please don't call other breeds 'Thoroughbreds'" section, putting the better-phrased sentence sooner in the paragraph. There were sentences in two different places saying basically the same thing, so tossed one. But why oh why do people so get their unders in a bunch when you tell them something IS actually incorrect usage? Yeah, I know, it's my weak spot, but some days I feel like I am the only person left on planet earth who cares about the degradation of language related to horses (I am still cringing even time some newspaper says Eight Belles broke her "ankles" PASTERNS! PASTERNS YOU MORONS!!!) Sorry ... (choking incoherently) Just please, give me 24 hours without my running across yet another idiot who says "reign in." (xpmpth, gxrposdiurlp) (wiping spittle from computer screen...) [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 05:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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According to the [[United States Census Bureau]], the town has a total area of 8.3 [[square mile]]s (21.5 [[km²]]), of which, 2.0 square miles (5.2 km²) of it is land and 6.3 square miles (16.3 km²) of it (76.02%) is water. |
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:::I've dropped in a new photo, which involves a less-quickly-moving (not very grammatical, but you get the point) horse that is moving into the article, as suggested. If there are any problems with this photo, or if anyone else has a better one, please feel free to revert or change... I've also rewritten the last paragraph of the intro so as to better reflect the rewritten health issues section. [[User:Dana boomer|Dana boomer]] ([[User talk:Dana boomer|talk]]) 18:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC) |
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==Demographics== |
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As of the [[census]]{{GR|2}} of 2000, there were 18,303 people, 7,843 households, and 4,580 families residing in the town. The [[population density]] was 9,208.3 people per square mile (3,551.2/km²). There were 8,067 housing units at an average density of 4,058.5/sq mi (1,565.2/km²). The racial makeup of the town was 94.44% [[White (U.S. Census)|White]], 1.68% [[African American (U.S. Census)|Black]] or [[Race (United States Census)|African American]], 0.16% [[Native American (U.S. Census)|Native American]], 1.15% [[Asian (U.S. Census)|Asian]], 0.04% [[Pacific Islander (U.S. Census)|Pacific Islander]], 1.36% from [[Race (United States Census)|other races]], and 1.16% from two or more races. [[Hispanic (U.S. Census)|Hispanic]] or [[Latino (U.S. Census)|Latino]] of any race were 2.69% of the population. |
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::::Works for me, though I did like the running horse better. This new one is OK too, though. Too bad there are no public domain images of [[Secretariat (horse)]]! LOL! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 23:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC) |
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There were 7,843 households out of which 23.6% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 43.1% were [[Marriage|married couples]] living together, 11.5% had a female householder with no husband present, and 41.6% were non-families. 32.5% of all households were made up of individuals and 11.9% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.30 and the average family size was 2.98. |
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::::: Well, technically, because Secy boy is dead, we could use a fair use image of him but it probably wouldn't fly at FAC because the article isn't about him. I think this one is probably okay. So. We did Peer Review, and it was helpful. Are we ready to think about FAC soon? I've just got done with looking at a huge pile of articles, some of which deal with TBs, so I think I'd like a week to digest them and maybe work them into the article. Some of them are vet type things dealing with race horse breakdowns, etc. One is titled "Advertising and pricing policies in the equine breeding industry or sex and the single stallion" which I'm not sure will have anything terribly interesting to add in, but I'm dying to get a ref into as many articles as possible just because the title is too cool. Back to FAC, I plan to do a joint nom, Dana, Montana, myself, and who else do we need to add in? [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 00:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC) |
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[[Image:winthrop_beach.jpg|thumb|Winthrop's Yirrell Beach, looking north from Deer Island (photo taken in August 2003)]] |
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::::::Ask Cgoodwin definitely. That was who got us going on all the bloodline stuff. And maybe old editors like Cuddy Witter or Culnacreann, though they haven't been real active? Just ideas [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 04:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC) |
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In the town the population was spread out with 18.6% under the age of 18, 7.3% from 18 to 24, 33.2% from 25 to 44, 24.4% from 45 to 64, and 16.5% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 40 years. For every 100 females there were 88.8 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 86.3 males. |
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== FAC == |
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The median income for a household in the town was $53,122, and the median income for a family was $65,696. Males had a median income of $42,135 versus $36,298 for females. The [[per capita income]] for the town was $27,374. About 3.3% of families and 5.5% of the population were below the [[poverty line]], including 4.1% of those under age 18 and 8.0% of those age 65 or over. |
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It's up at FAC now. It usually takes a bit of time before the feeding frenzy starts. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 12:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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==Points of interest== |
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*[[Deane Winthrop]] House, Shirley Street- (one of the longest Constant lived in houses in the U.S.) |
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*[[Fort Banks Mortar Battery|Fort Banks]] (an underground bunker is all that remains), off Revere and Almont Streets. (Also once used as the Halloween attraction the Haunted Dungeon.) |
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*[[Fort Heath]], now replaced with the Fort Heath Apartment building. |
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* Belle Isle Marsh |
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== TB price stats == |
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=== [[Belle Isle Marsh Reservation]] === |
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Winthrop abuts the largest salt marsh in Boston Harbor, the 350 acre [[Belle Isle Marsh Reservation]]. This marsh also borders East Boston and Revere. It used to be a [[Metropolitan District Commission]] (MDC) reservation, and is now run by the Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR.) This marsh is a reserve for a variety of wildlife and plants. It is maintained in part by the Friends of Belle Isle Marsh, a grassroots environmental organization. |
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Did some fast research on TB prices, here are links and my summary. Not sure where or if this needs to go into the article, but for what it's worth: |
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[http://www.friendsofbelleislemarsh.org/ Friends of Belle Isle Marsh] |
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*http://extension.umd.edu/publications/PDFs/FS665.pdf Interesting analysis by Maryland State Extension Service of factors that go into TB pricing, particularly the mid-level horses that sell int he 20-30K range. |
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== Annual Events in Winthrop == |
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*http://ww2.keeneland.com/sales/lists/sale/results.aspx?SaleId=200802 Assorted Keeneland sales results. |
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=== July === |
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*http://ww2.keeneland.com/sales/lists/sale/results.aspx?SaleId=200802 Sample search of all yearlings who sold for more than $1,000,000 last fall. |
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* 4th of July Fireworks & "Horribles Parade". Parade starts at the Public Landing and ends at Coughlin Park. A fireworks display follows at nightfall. |
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Hope this is a start. I kind of wonder if the price thing has a good place to be worked in and if it would be a PITA to maintain, as data could get dated so fast? [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 21:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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* Summer Concert Series, at the Ingleside Park gazebo. Wednesday nights. |
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:I think just a flavour is needed, and a link to this useful site. It could go in Uses, or the racing sub-section, or on its own. Basically: Some Ts are very pricey, as much as XX at yearling stage (or whatever) bla bla, but most are not bla bla. Top stud fees can exceed XXX. Something like that. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 22:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Notable natives == |
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* [[Mark Bavaro]] - [[NFL]] tight end |
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* [[Rick DiPietro]] - hockey goalie for the [[National Hockey League]]'s [[New York Islanders]] |
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* [[Mike Eruzione]] - former ice hockey player who was the captain of the 1980 Winter Olympics United States national team that upset the Soviet Union in the famous [[Miracle on Ice]] game |
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* [[Michael Goulian]] - Aviator and [[Red Bull Air Race]]r |
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* [[Edward J. King]] - Governor of Massachusetts (1979-1983) |
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* [[Robert Ellis Orrall]] - country music and indie rock musician |
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* [[Sylvia Plath]] - Poet |
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* [[Larry Thomas]] - Major League Pitcher for the Chicago White Sox. |
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* [[Benjamin Whorf]] - an American linguist |
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* [[Deane Winthrop]] - Son of [[John Winthrop]], founder of the town and Massachusetts first Governor |
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* [[Dale Dunbar]] - former [[National Hockey League]] defenseman |
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* [[Unearth]] - [[Metalcore]] band |
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* [[Steven Van Zandt]] - Musician with Bruce Springsteen's [[E Street Band]]. Also played [[Silvio Dante]] from the [[Sopranos]]. |
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* Terry Driscoll - All-American basketball player at [[Boston College]]; 4th pick in the first round of the 1969 [[NBA]] draft; played on the [[Detroit Pistons]], [[Baltimore Bullets]] and [[Milwaukee Bucks]]. |
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* [[The Renowns]] - A rock and roll vocal group, originally recorded in the early 60's and currently recording and performing. |
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*[[Edward Rowe Snow]] - Prolific author and historian. Focused his work primarily on the history of Boston Harbor. He is also noted for saving Fort Warren on Georges Island and for dropping gifts to the children of lighthouse keepers as the "Flying Santa". |
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:: Sounds like a good suggestion, thanks Johnbod. I'll let the prose smiths do their work, they write better than I do. Montana? Dana? Getwood? [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 23:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==Trivia== |
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:::"bla bla"? ;-) You mean you want me to actually do some WORK? LOL! More to the point, where in the article should we put this bit, as it probably will be just one sentence? Wisdom of the collective mind? [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 08:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Winthrop's sports team is the Winthrop Vikings. |
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:::: I'd think usage, myself. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 11:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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"Winthrop" a song about the town, appears on the 2005 Indigo Girls album [[Rarities]] |
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::::: I threw some data and sourcing up in the Usage section. We need to get sales averages for the UK if possible? Still looking for data on stud fees. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 17:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==References== |
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{{reflist}} |
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:::::: More is up, including some UK stuff. Stud fees are still lacking. Next up, mine out Blood-horse [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 20:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==External links== |
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*[http://www.discoverwinthrop.com/ Discover Winthrop] |
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*[http://www.winthroptranscript.com/ Winthrop Sun Transcript] |
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*[http://www.winthropchamber.com/ Winthrop Chamber of Commerce] |
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*[http://www.town.winthrop.ma.us/Pages/index Town of Winthrop] |
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*[http://www.town.winthrop.ma.us/Pages/WinthropMA_Bylaws/towncharter Town Charter] |
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*[http://www.weirdwinthrop.com/ Weird Winthrop] |
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*[http://www.vikingpride.org/ Viking Pride Foundation] |
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*[http://www.winthrop.boardzero.com/ Winthrop Community Forums] |
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{{Mapit-US-cityscale|42.374797|-70.979704}} |
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::::::: There, someone else can copyedit my (poor) prose. (grins) I think I covered most of the details, it's pretty dry reading! [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 20:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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{{Suffolk County, Massachusetts}} |
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I just came over to say '''support''' after all that and you'd already got your gong. Well done. [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Fainites|barley]]</small></sup> 19:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Archived talk:
- Archive 1 (Performed April 1, 2008)
Out of town
I will be gone until Sunday evening, and unable to access the internet during that time. I have been a minor contributor to this page, and trust the judgement of the major editors Ealdgyth, Dana boomer and Montanabw. The edited version of the Health section is viewable at User:Getwood/Sandbox/Thoroughbred. At the top of the page, edits are viewable. At the bottom of the page is a clean version without strikeouts, etc. I will be happy with whatever the group comes up with (as long as the fragile bones thing stays gone... See Wolff's law for explanation of bone modeling in response to load). Thanks, and a great weekend to all. Getwood (talk) 15:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Anyone want to add the rewrite in the sandbox to the article, or have a problem if I do so? Montanabw(talk) 19:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've dropped the section into the article. Dana boomer (talk) 12:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Next step
Okay, the next step is probably a peer review. If no one objects, I'll go ahead and list it in the morning, it usually runs for two weeks or so. I'm going to be out of town until the 11th or so. I'll have internet intermittantly, just no library of books, so that'll limit some of my usefulness. Ealdgyth - Talk 02:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- First peer review is in, and I've done some of the tweaks suggested. The dash thing is easiest to do with a request to a person who has a script that will fix them. I'll do that when we are ready to go to FAC. There are still a few issues at the PR, you can find them by following the link above in the peer review request box where it says "request". Ealdgyth - Talk 14:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Works for me, go for it. My only question is if we want to wait a few more days for the Eight Belles thing to quiet down. I've been reverting stuff on her placed in really odd spots (like the Western riding article. WTF??)
- FYI, per a previous edit, I made yet another tweak to the "please don't call other breeds 'Thoroughbreds'" section, putting the better-phrased sentence sooner in the paragraph. There were sentences in two different places saying basically the same thing, so tossed one. But why oh why do people so get their unders in a bunch when you tell them something IS actually incorrect usage? Yeah, I know, it's my weak spot, but some days I feel like I am the only person left on planet earth who cares about the degradation of language related to horses (I am still cringing even time some newspaper says Eight Belles broke her "ankles" PASTERNS! PASTERNS YOU MORONS!!!) Sorry ... (choking incoherently) Just please, give me 24 hours without my running across yet another idiot who says "reign in." (xpmpth, gxrposdiurlp) (wiping spittle from computer screen...) Montanabw(talk) 05:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've dropped in a new photo, which involves a less-quickly-moving (not very grammatical, but you get the point) horse that is moving into the article, as suggested. If there are any problems with this photo, or if anyone else has a better one, please feel free to revert or change... I've also rewritten the last paragraph of the intro so as to better reflect the rewritten health issues section. Dana boomer (talk) 18:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Works for me, though I did like the running horse better. This new one is OK too, though. Too bad there are no public domain images of Secretariat (horse)! LOL! Montanabw(talk) 23:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, technically, because Secy boy is dead, we could use a fair use image of him but it probably wouldn't fly at FAC because the article isn't about him. I think this one is probably okay. So. We did Peer Review, and it was helpful. Are we ready to think about FAC soon? I've just got done with looking at a huge pile of articles, some of which deal with TBs, so I think I'd like a week to digest them and maybe work them into the article. Some of them are vet type things dealing with race horse breakdowns, etc. One is titled "Advertising and pricing policies in the equine breeding industry or sex and the single stallion" which I'm not sure will have anything terribly interesting to add in, but I'm dying to get a ref into as many articles as possible just because the title is too cool. Back to FAC, I plan to do a joint nom, Dana, Montana, myself, and who else do we need to add in? Ealdgyth - Talk 00:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
FAC
It's up at FAC now. It usually takes a bit of time before the feeding frenzy starts. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
TB price stats
Did some fast research on TB prices, here are links and my summary. Not sure where or if this needs to go into the article, but for what it's worth:
- http://extension.umd.edu/publications/PDFs/FS665.pdf Interesting analysis by Maryland State Extension Service of factors that go into TB pricing, particularly the mid-level horses that sell int he 20-30K range.
- http://ww2.keeneland.com/sales/lists/sale/results.aspx?SaleId=200802 Assorted Keeneland sales results.
- http://ww2.keeneland.com/sales/lists/sale/results.aspx?SaleId=200802 Sample search of all yearlings who sold for more than $1,000,000 last fall.
Hope this is a start. I kind of wonder if the price thing has a good place to be worked in and if it would be a PITA to maintain, as data could get dated so fast? Montanabw(talk) 21:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think just a flavour is needed, and a link to this useful site. It could go in Uses, or the racing sub-section, or on its own. Basically: Some Ts are very pricey, as much as XX at yearling stage (or whatever) bla bla, but most are not bla bla. Top stud fees can exceed XXX. Something like that. Johnbod (talk) 22:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Congrats!
I just came over to say support after all that and you'd already got your gong. Well done. Fainites barley 19:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)