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Bot request

Hi, I'd just like to, perhaps remind, you of the bot request on the template {{Infobox rugby league biography}}. I know you've been on wikibreak for a while, but that dosen't concern me, its just I would like this done evetually. I don't mean to rush but just to remind you.

The request has moved to the 21st archive of the Bot Requests, for further information, and I'm reachable on my talk page and quite happy to help. The Windler talk 06:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's still needed, the ongoing consensus at WP:RL is about the type of content that will go in the infobox. It was decided months ago that the infobox would change. The content the bot changes is just the information from one parameter to various others. We are talking about content (eg. Should we have a nick name section. But that can be dealt with later) Not being a programmer, I don't know what the problems are. But may I suggest making smaller bots which do one task and then follow it up with another.

I'm still happy to help. The Windler talk 21:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Those two infobox related requests are fine, just ignore them. I don't have much time at the moment, so I ca't bother with the "new=yes" attempt. I tried but failed. I do that tonight (Aust time) if no-one Ive asked hasn't done it.

I do hope you are going to test this bot on a few players before all of them. But I'm sure you've got them sorted.

Thankyou for your time, it probably hasn't been easy. It is much appreciated. I'll contact you when that last item is done. Thanks The Windler talk 21:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ready

Sorry for the delay, the template is ready, and it is alright if the "dateofbirth" and "dateofdeath" is transferred over to the new template with no change at all. I do ask that the "repupdate" parameter is simply deleted. And for "pcupdate" to be changed to the parameter name "updated".

Thankyou again, and I will help you if need be in the test stage. The Windler talk 09:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to be rude, but I would like some feedback on the progress of this project. It has been a long time, and while I am patient, I do like to know where you stand. You can reply here, I have your page watched. Thanks again. The Windler talk 09:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where I stand is, unfortunately, somewhat distracted! Please accept my apologies; this has for various reasons been dragging on for far too long. I have some time today, so I'll try to get the final wheels turning. Happy‑melon 11:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats alright, I don't mind, but I just prefer to know whats happening than being in the dark. The Windler talk 21:23, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have some test edits for your inspection. Please have a look at these five alterations and let me know if there's anything amiss. Happy‑melon 20:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much, I've replied on the bot request page here. If you don't mind either, I will reply there from now. But I can here if you like. The Windler talk 00:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, this is in relation to the rugby league biography infobox. The issue of squad numbers is one that is necessary for European Super League players, and as such belongs in the infobox. Could it be arranged that before further players are shifted over to the new infobox that the line is added. Many thanks.Londo 06 08:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"csd --> prod --> afd"

Er, that's not quite true. CSD can be applied at any time in the process, so long as the article meets the criteria. A prod does not preclude a speedy tag (neither does an AFD, for that matter). In fact, a speedy can be running at the same time as an AFD/PROD tag...I only removed the prod because it was contested. --UsaSatsui (talk) 20:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Also, the user who made those articles has been creating other hoax articles. They're clearly vandalism. I would appreciate you self-reverting, unless you disagree on more than technical grounds. --UsaSatsui (talk) 21:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of the subtletites, but they're a bit too involved to fit into an edit summary! Suffice to say that the article would not, IMO, have qualified for CSD whether it has previously been prodded or not. Please consider me to have been acting in an admin capacity in removing that CSD tag (I was working CAT:CSD at the time!). Happy‑melon 21:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very well, they are AFD'd. I didn't notice you were an admin (and if I did, it wouldn't have change d my response), but just so you know, similar articles were deleted under similar circumstances earlier by another admin...I believe the reason he didn't get those two then is because he wanted to clarify the user's actions with some other people. --UsaSatsui (talk) 21:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are deleted or even snowballed, especially if what you say about the creator's other articles is true. However there is no reason not to give them the opportunity to defend themselves if they are by any chance defensible content (if they were verifiable, I think they would be acceptable articles). Happy‑melon 21:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A little help on a template

I have created a template for WikiProject pages in the Food and Drink family, which all use the same format for their Project home page.

The template is {{Food wikimedia}}.

What I want to do is an a variable to adapt the template to the particular project but am having trouble getting it to work right. Could you help.

Thanks allot.

--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 21:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I figured it out. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 08:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Red border

Hi, could you remove the newly added red border at Template:Stubclass? It's a bit jarring. Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 05:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The border is a feature of the new {{tmbox}} template, and the associated styles that have been agreed for talkspace messageboxes (similar to the ambox, imbox, etc styles for the other namespaces). If you read the discussions at Template talk:Tmbox and particularly Template talk:Tmbox/styles, you'll see that I've been campaigning for some time to ommit these thick coloured borders, as I agree with you entirely that they are extremely distracting. However, consensus has worked against me... if you are prepared to begin a new discussion there, you would have my full support. However, this particular template very clearly falls into the 'content' type, so it would be inappropriate to reclassify it as another type just to avoid the coloured border. Happy‑melon 12:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with {{WP Australia}}?

Can I ask you to please look into why the banner used for the Australia WikiProject is displaying strange output. An example is available at Talk:Darryn Lyons, and every other Australia-related article for that matter. Cheers. -- Longhair\^talk 19:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Someone managed to add whitespace (and unwanted extra bytes) to a key subpage. Should be fixed now. Happy‑melon 20:38, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with {{album}}

The template of the Album wikipoject doesn`t display the rate of the article, just found out, a few minutes ago; Just check any article with the template. Could you do something about it, please. Zidane tribal (talk) 20:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the same problem as above (let me know if it isn't). Happy‑melon 20:38, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Redirect-Class AFC pages

Hi, I am wondering why you deleted Category:Redirect-Class AFC pages, with CSD C1 as it certainly was/is not empty. Thanks Lego K^ontribs T^alk M 21:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely "was" in that choice statement! The thing with categories is, their membership can multiply or divide in minutes if they are populated from a widely-used template - in this case, {{WPAFC}}. I had altered that template to, among other things, categorise redirects into Category:Redirect-Class AFC articles rather than ...AFC pages. I had physically sat there and watched the category empty before my eyes, and then deleted it (yes it should technically have been empty for four days, but waiting the prescribed time period would only have increased the chances of me forgetting it, with no benefit as the category was not going to repopulate itself). Yesterday, my changes to the banner template were reverted, which caused the category to fill back up again, and so for Msjg to recreate it. Happy‑melon 09:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template deletion

How soon until I can nominate Template:MySpace for deletion again? Ctjf83Talk 21:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a question of "how long can I wait". If you have a look at Template talk:MySpace, you'll see that this template has been TfDd no less than four times, and it has never been deleted. This should give you a suggestion of how the majority of editors feel about it. Happy‑melon 09:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I suppose Ctjf83Talk 11:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I need help setting up a varible on some templates

I have set up four templates to ease in building project pages for the WP Food and Drink pages. I have set up some definable fields for colors, but want to have a default set if the user chooses not to define them. Could you help me?

they are:

the default colors are

border=#668CFF
bgcolor=#CCD9FF

Thank you very much for any help you could provide, --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 17:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Setting paramater defaults is very simple: have a look at what I did to the first one. For more information on basic template functions like this, have a read of Help:Template or (more usefully :D) meta:User:Happy-melon/Templates, which I hope will eventually replace it. Happy‑melon 18:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll I can say is "d'oh", that was painfully simple. Thanks for the heads up, I am trying to create a "build a WikiProject" templates to ease the creation of WikiProject pages. Too many of them look like the old personal web pages from the 90s. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 19:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some more

My latest and greatest (yeah, right). This one will really require you mastery, I think.

I am trying to set this one for the heading section of page templates. I have it pretty much setup the way I want it, but there are some things I want to do but do not know how.

I do not want it to display undefined fields.
If a two or more related fields are defined, I wish that there will be a line break between them.
For the | task force= switch: The default will be "Project", but when "yes" is added, it will change that to "Task Force"

I know there is more but am too tired to think of them now.

Help me Obi-wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. (No, I am not putting on the bikini.)

--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 07:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at what I've done. Nothing particularly difficult - I'm sure you could have worked it out for yourself. It's just a case of knowing what to wrap in conditional statements (you can leave the |- marks outside the statements if you want, in fact, but I think it's cleaner to hide them to). Plus one little trick for circumventing the whitespace-stripping from parser functions (that HTML character I added to each line is a hardcoded space (which can't be stripped) meaning that the newline is not the first character in the string, hence it's also not stripped). Is that what you wanted, anyway? Happy‑melon 10:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly what I wanted. Yeah, Happy-Melon! The problem is that the I am unfamiliar with the parser function and after reading the help section, still am unfamiliar with the parser functions. I am more of the demonstrate it to me, then I will do it myself type of learning. I find it easier to learn when some one shows me the way first. I am going to apply this on some of the other templates I created. I may be back, but I deeply appreciate the help. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 12:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be the first to agree that the help pages we have on templates and parser functions are, in the main, utterly crap. Not to say that there aren't some gems in there, but they're buried under so much repetition, poor explanation and technobabble that it's no wonder no one gets anything useful out of them. Happy‑melon 12:51, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's because you can't use a raw pipe character inside parser functions (unless it's part of a piped link) without it being thought of as part of the parser delimiters. That's what the {{!}} template is for - it contains only a pipe, which is not 'exposed' until the end of the parser (when the wikitable code is evaluated, after all the parserfunctions). So wherever you wanted to put style="some-style:foo;"|Wording, put style="some-style:foo;"{{!}}Wording instead. Happy‑melon 08:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Styles

I am trying to get some styles in the box to decrease font sizes. Where would they go in relation to the new sections? I would really like to have the fonts after the heading to be at 90%, but I have tried putting int a "style="font-size: 90%;" comment in about every conceivable location and all it did was break the parser statements. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 00:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFBOT

Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. – Quadell ^(talk) 18:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Common.css

Hey Happy-melon, I've seen you're quite active in the Main Page Redesign project and wondered if you could add some comments on my request here, related to it: MediaWiki_talk:Common.css#Request_for_background-image_rule I wonder if it is completely out of the question or whether a temporary change may be permitted. Many thanks. Pretzels^chatters 15:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid it looks unlikely to ever gain support, even for a short period. The probability of a design involving such an esoteric feature ever making it to the main page is, unfortunately, even more remote - there are probably accessibility issues to consider, as well as the question of what happens for those readers whose browsers do not support CSS. Happy‑melon 16:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Cooridinators

Consensus seem to favor a merge as opposed to guideline status. Since I'm an involved editor, and your not, and I recognize your name, would you handle the merger? TomStar81 (Talk) 17:58, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure - I'll see what I can do tomorrow. Happy‑melon 21:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New nav bar

Hi - User:JimMillerJr suggested I drop you a note. I've been building a new nav bar here: User:G716/sandbox/WPStat navbar, and was having trouble getting the portal logo centered in the cell in the table. User:JimMillerJr fixed it, but suggested that I ask you to take a look to see if you could simplify the code he added. Thanks—G716 <^T·_C> 23:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good thing I'm an admin and can follow that breadcrumb trail you left! I've simplified it a little, but there's not a lot that can be done here I'm afraid. Happy‑melon 10:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's weird - I could have sworn I left you a follow-up note that I'd moved it. Oh well, your sleuthing skills are first-class! Can you figure out why the template {{WPStatistics navigation sidebar}} shows up at this page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Statistics/Cleanup listing/Header, but not here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Statistics/Cleanup listing. (I borrowed this navbar from {{WPNJ navbar}}, which correctly shows up here and here) Thanks again for your help—G716 <^T·_C> 12:21, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me! Try purging or null-editing the /Cleanup page. Happy‑melon 12:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of "Template:Otheruses2/doc"

A page you created, Template:Otheruses2/doc, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it is a test page. Use the sandbox for testing.

You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable inclusion guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article.

Thank you. Lunchscale ^Talk! ^Contrib! 13:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CSD templates again

Hi, Happy-melon. I may start a TfD to delete those "/new" CSD templates soon. If you, as one of the contributors to the templates, indicate that you prefer to keep them, I might not start the TfD. If you have comments please post them at User talk:Coppertwig#Template talk:Db-blankcsd/new. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 19:21, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Thankyou for your efforts and quality contributions on creating the code for the bot for the conversion of the Template:Infobox rugby league biography. It was much appreciated by me and all users in the WikiProject Rugby league. Thankyou very much. The Windler talk 22:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]