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| debut = Action Comics 419 ([[1972 in comics|1972]]) |
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| creators = [[Len Wein]]<br />[[Carmine Infantino]] |
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| alter_ego = Christopher Chance |
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'''The Human Target''' is an American [[comic book]] character created by [[Len Wein]] and [[Carmine Infantino]]: a unique [[private detective]] and [[bodyguard]] named Christopher Chance who operates by impersonating his clients in order to eliminate threats to his principal. Since Chance makes himself a target, he, in essence, becomes a "Human Target." |
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Chance's early appearances came in back-up stories in ''[[Action Comics]]'', a title much better known for featuring [[Superman]] tales published by [[DC Comics]]. Later, the feature appeared in [[Batman]] titles such as [[The Brave and the Bold]] and [[Detective Comics]]. Christopher Chance recently starred in an ongoing ''Human Target'' series written by [[Peter Milligan]] and published under DC's [[Vertigo Comics|Vertigo]] imprint. |
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==Introductions== |
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Christopher Chance was introduced to audiences as the secondary star of DC Comics' ''[[Action Comics]]'', where he served in assorted back-up features while the title's primary focus remained on the character of [[Superman]]. Chance would go on to appear an a variety of other DC productions, most notably (along with a slew of other DC gumshoes) in a special story, "The 'Too Many Crooks...' Caper", in the 500th issue of Detective Comics. |
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==To television and beyond== |
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A television pilot, starring former pop star [[Rick Springfield]], was produced in [[1990 in television|1990]]. Springfield starred as Chance, who was now a Vietnam vet as well as a P.I/bodyguard. In this version, for ten percent of a client's annual income ("whether you're a busboy or the king of England"), Chance would take the client's place and protect his or her life. Philo Marsden was an eccentric computer genius who helped Chance by designing high-tech masks, and Jeff Carlyle was the chauffeur, cook and pilot for Chance's mobile base of operations, the Blackwing (designed by Mike Kaluta). Lilly Page was an ex-CIA agent who helped coordinate Chance's missions. Though produced in 1990, the show aired only briefly in 1992 (7 episodes aired in the Summer of 1992 although the pilot itself was never aired). The version of the show which aired in 1992 had a slightly different cast from that of the unaired pilot episode. |
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In November 1991, prior to the show's debut, Chance appeared in his own book, a 48-page [[One-shot (comics)|one-shot]] titled ''The Human Target Special #1'', an ostensible tie-in to the television show (the cover advertised that it was "Coming soon to ABC-TV!"), in which Chance and his cohorts protected a DEA agent from harm. It was written by [[Mark Verheiden]], with pencils by [[Rick Burchett]] and inks by [[Dick Giordano]]. |
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==Vertigo== |
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*Sure. Give me 48 hours. [[User:Universal Hero|Universal Hero]] |
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{{main|Human Target (Vertigo)}} |
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Writer [[Peter Milligan]] and the late [[Edvin Biukovic]] revived Christopher Chance in [[1999 in comics|1999]], moving the character to the DC Comics [[Vertigo Comics|Vertigo]] imprint for a four-issue limited series. After the success of this series, there followed an original graphic novel called ''Human Target: Final Cut'', and an ongoing series that lasted for 21 issues. |
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* {{imdb title|0103447}} (television adaptation) |
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* [http://www.thrillingdetective.com/chance.html Chance's publication history at "Thrilling Detective"] |
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|align="center"|Thank you for voting in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ben MacDui|my RfA]], which passed with '''90 support''', '''2 oppose''', and '''0 neutral'''. |
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All the best, [[User:Ben MacDui|Ben MacDui]]<sup><font color="#228B22">[[User talk:Ben MacDui|Talk]]</font></sup><font color="#228B22">/</font><small><font color="#228B22">[[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|Walk]]</font></small> 20:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC) <!-- this thank-you created with Template:RfA-thanks --> |
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[[Category:Fictional bodyguards]] |
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== Thanks == |
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[[Category:Television programs based on DC Comics]] |
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[[Category:Vertigo titles]] |
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Thanks, but getting the main page seems more like a curse at this point. :-) Tax reform can be controversial so the article has been hit with the usual after such a front page display. It's getting the normal calls for change with little if any substantiation for the dispute. Of course new users see any call for change (substantiated, reasonable, against policy, or otherwise) as reason for banners and complete rewrites. It's quite stressful and I'd much rather be improving more high priority tax articles, but I don't want to see this one degrade in quality due to neglect. I could certainly use the help working through the discussion if you have a some time. We need some level heads and people that understand the policy and perhaps you being from outside the U.S. might help. [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>16:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)</i></small> |
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:I've added it to my watchlist. It does seem to have quietened down. [[User:GameKeeper|GameKeeper]] ([[User talk:GameKeeper#top|talk]]) 19:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC) |
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::Things are getting ugly - your opinion would be appreciated. [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>22:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</i></small> |
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::: Hi Morph, I have been quite busy recently an unable to follow the argument fully. I've offered my 2 cents on the talk page. I think there is some misunderstanding between what a [[WP:FRINGE]] theory is and a minority one.I'll try to keep up with the argument now. Please note I am in no way a supporter of fairtax and I do think some of the sources should be checked to ensure they should be considered reliable sources, however ideas such as removing well sourced positives benefits seem blatantly wrong to me. [[User:GameKeeper|GameKeeper]] ([[User talk:GameKeeper#top|talk]]) 23:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>14:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)</i></small> |
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:::::Just so you're aware in considering the sources, FairTax.org (Americans for Fair Taxation) is the group that created the plan and commissioned a large amount of the research on it. [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>17:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)</i></small> |
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== FairTax == |
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Hi Gamekeeper; I think perhaps you don't fully appreciate the bizarreness of the FairTax. The idea that the USA would in one fell swoop replace its entire tax system with a sales tax is simply unimaginable. Nothing short of complete economic collapse could possibly justify such a risk. Almost no economist takes the proposal seriously. If the proponents were serious about this, they would call for a gradual phase-in, starting perhaps with a 5% sales tax and ~20% reduction in other taxes. But they aren't serious, and generally don't even understand their own plan; they're just in love with the radicalness of it. [[User:Looie496|Looie496]] ([[User talk:Looie496|talk]]) 05:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:I agree with the aspects of phase in and expect if any action did take place in congress, such a measure would be added for implementation. It is quite bizare at that but a bill that has 17% of the House cosponsoring it (which is always less than support) and over half of the Republican presidential candidates (and one Democrat) is not a fringe topic. Minority political support does not equal fringe science, nor does lack of criticism in one particular area. [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>14:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)</i></small> |
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: I do appreciate that the FairTax proposal is to replace the entire tax system. Any discussion regarding the [[WP:Fringe]]iness of this should be taken to the [[Talk:FairTax]]. [[User:GameKeeper|GameKeeper]] ([[User talk:GameKeeper#top|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== A Message about the [[Phorm]] page == |
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By way of introduction, I work for Phorm and am working with Wikipedia on behalf of the company. I recently posted a request [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dsergeant#About_the_Phorm_page] to another editor [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dsergeant#About_the_Phorm_page] of the Phorm page. We want to have a productive and open dialogue and hopefully fix some of the problems in tone and fact with this article – there are quite a few! Unfortunately that post hasn’t progressed, he didn’t comment back to us. |
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As we said on the other editor’s page, we understand the [[Conflict_of_interest]] policy and hope we can work within it and with Wikipedia editors like yourself to add or correct facts where appropriate in good faith. Unfortunately, most of the editors to this page do not take the Conflict of Interest policy seriously and have serious axes to grind. They’ve written most of the article, and in tone, structure, fact and approach, the Phorm page falls well out of the bounds of neutrality. |
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In the section ‘BT trials’ (last sentence), it claims: "The trial still uses the opt-out method and is therefore illegal in the UK according to the Information Commissioner's Office." This is factually inaccurate and untrue. Users are invited to opt in to the trial. The details on the invitation process can be found at: http://www2.bt.com/static/i/btretail/webwise/bt-webwise-trial.html and here's how the Daily Telegraph describes it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/digitallife/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/09/30/dlphorm130.xml |
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In the section ‘Reaction’ (3rd paragraph), it claims the share price had dropped 85% in March this year. It is not correct that the share price dropped 85% over the period and so was not ‘effectively collapsing’. In fact the share price drifted down over a period of 51 days by 56% from opening at £32.50 on Monday 3 March to £14.25 at the market close on Friday 16 May (based on historical share price data available on Yahoo! Finance) – that’s the same a decline of around 1% a day. |
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Rather than appeal to the powers that be, we’d rather see if the Wikipedia process can work at the community level as it was designed to. It’s our hope that we can work with you to moderate the changes we suggest and help create an encyclopedic article that truly fits Wikipedia’s neutrality policy. If you don’t choose to get involved maybe you could suggest a different editor: someone who has a history of commitment to Wikipedia and can approach this project without bias. |
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However if you do think this is something you can help with let us know. We'll look for your reply either here, or on the Phorm Talk page, or on our user page, and we’ll listen to your recommendation on how to move forward. |
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[[User:IworkforPhorm|IworkforPhorm]] ([[User talk:IworkforPhorm|talk]]) 14:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hello, I am very busy with other work at the moment, so will not be able to give this the time it deserves. I will post a link to this from the [[talk:Phorm]] page in the hope that someone else may look at this. [[User:GameKeeper|GameKeeper]] ([[User talk:GameKeeper#top|talk]]) 21:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 21:42, 12 October 2008
| The Human Target | |
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| Publication information | |
| Publisher | DC Comics |
| First appearance | Action Comics 419 (1972) |
| Created by | Len Wein Carmine Infantino |
| In-story information | |
| Alter ego | Christopher Chance |
| Notable aliases | Numerous; impersonates his clients to protect them |
| Abilities | Master impersonator Skilled detective |
The Human Target is an American comic book character created by Len Wein and Carmine Infantino: a unique private detective and bodyguard named Christopher Chance who operates by impersonating his clients in order to eliminate threats to his principal. Since Chance makes himself a target, he, in essence, becomes a "Human Target."
Chance's early appearances came in back-up stories in Action Comics, a title much better known for featuring Superman tales published by DC Comics. Later, the feature appeared in Batman titles such as The Brave and the Bold and Detective Comics. Christopher Chance recently starred in an ongoing Human Target series written by Peter Milligan and published under DC's Vertigo imprint.
Introductions
Christopher Chance was introduced to audiences as the secondary star of DC Comics' Action Comics, where he served in assorted back-up features while the title's primary focus remained on the character of Superman. Chance would go on to appear an a variety of other DC productions, most notably (along with a slew of other DC gumshoes) in a special story, "The 'Too Many Crooks...' Caper", in the 500th issue of Detective Comics.
To television and beyond
A television pilot, starring former pop star Rick Springfield, was produced in 1990. Springfield starred as Chance, who was now a Vietnam vet as well as a P.I/bodyguard. In this version, for ten percent of a client's annual income ("whether you're a busboy or the king of England"), Chance would take the client's place and protect his or her life. Philo Marsden was an eccentric computer genius who helped Chance by designing high-tech masks, and Jeff Carlyle was the chauffeur, cook and pilot for Chance's mobile base of operations, the Blackwing (designed by Mike Kaluta). Lilly Page was an ex-CIA agent who helped coordinate Chance's missions. Though produced in 1990, the show aired only briefly in 1992 (7 episodes aired in the Summer of 1992 although the pilot itself was never aired). The version of the show which aired in 1992 had a slightly different cast from that of the unaired pilot episode.
In November 1991, prior to the show's debut, Chance appeared in his own book, a 48-page one-shot titled The Human Target Special #1, an ostensible tie-in to the television show (the cover advertised that it was "Coming soon to ABC-TV!"), in which Chance and his cohorts protected a DEA agent from harm. It was written by Mark Verheiden, with pencils by Rick Burchett and inks by Dick Giordano.
Vertigo
Writer Peter Milligan and the late Edvin Biukovic revived Christopher Chance in 1999, moving the character to the DC Comics Vertigo imprint for a four-issue limited series. After the success of this series, there followed an original graphic novel called Human Target: Final Cut, and an ongoing series that lasted for 21 issues.
External links
- Human Target at IMDb (television adaptation)
- Chance's publication history at "Thrilling Detective"
