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The '''Yenko Super Camaro''' was a modified [[First-generation Chevrolet Camaro|Chevrolet Camaro]] prepared by [[Yenko Chevrolet]], under the command of [[Don Yenko]]. The originals were all first-generation Camaros. When the Camaro debuted, a [[General Motors]] corporate edict prevented it from carrying an engine larger than 400&nbsp;in³ (6.6&nbsp;L) [[V8 engine|V8]]; this put the Camaro at a serious disadvantage to the [[Ford Mustang]] and [[Plymouth Barracuda]], since neither Ford nor Plymouth had a such a limit. Don Yenko, however, knew there was a market for an ultra powerful Camaro and found ways around the GM limit.
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== TomKat ==

Hello
As you have made comments of the discussion page of the [[TomKat]] article, it would be greatly appreciated if you would contribute to the debate on it's Articles for Deletion page. Thanks!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TomKat

== [[Underoath]] ==

[[User:Jerry teps|Jerry teps]] asked that page be unprotected. You had protected it on Aug. 18, for 10 days. Since it was going to expire anyways, I decided to unprotect it early, as it was a simple semi-protect to stop IP vandalism. Hope you don't mind, '''<font face="Rockwell">[[Special:Contributions/Maxim|<font color="43AA54">Maxim</font>]] ([[User talk:Maxim|<font color="aa0000">☎</font>]])</font>''' 14:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
: No problems. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 14:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Political positions of Sarah Palin ==

Why did you make this page redirect to Sarah Palin. It contains considerable information not found on that page and the consensus is clearly against a merger? --[[User:ThaddeusB|ThaddeusB]] ([[User talk:ThaddeusB|talk]]) 21:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
: It is duplicated info. To do a spinoff article, see [[WP:SUMMARY]] [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 22:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

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== Accusation of vandalism on Sarah Palin article ==

On my [[User talk:Tsunado#September_2008|talk page]], you accuse me of vandalism. Please explain. I had deleted a paragraph about Ted Stevens' 527 group in the [[Sarah Palin]] article because this same info was duplicated in the subsequent section, two paragraphs down. I explained in my edit that I deleted the paragraph because it was "redundant". Also, it seemed not to be relevant to her job as [[Sarah Palin#Alaska_Oil_and_Gas_Conservation_Commissioner|"Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commissioner"]], which is the section I removed it from.

I think the vandalism charge is serious and hope that this is the result of a misunderstanding. In this case, it's also somewhat baffling since I wrote most of the info in the Sarah Palin article about the relationship between Stevens and Palin, and, although I did not originate this particular piece, I simply incorporated into the rest of the Ted Stevens section. [[User:Tsunado|Tsunado]] ([[User talk:Tsunado|talk]]) 22:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
: No worries. I will remove the warning. False positives do happen, my apologies. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 22:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

== Accidental? ==

Hi Jossi. In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Palin&diff=next&oldid=235688195 this edit] of yours, did you mean to revert the edits in the section on the Dismissal of the Public Safety Commissioner? Or was that an unintentional byproduct? It seems to me that we don't have to name so many people (e.g. McCann and Colberg) in that summary section. Thx.[[User:Ferrylodge|Ferrylodge]] ([[User talk:Ferrylodge|talk]]) 22:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

: Sorry, edits are so rapid there that I reverted your name additions in the shuffle... [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 04:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

::No problem, I was just wondering. It's quite the wild west over there. :)[[User:Ferrylodge|Ferrylodge]] ([[User talk:Ferrylodge|talk]]) 04:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Sarah Palin]] ==

You are probably not aware of it, but the protection was discussed [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Please_help_on_Sarah_Palin|on AN]] and there was consensus to full protect. Can you please undo your semi and join the discussion? Thanks! -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#001F7F;">talk</span>]]</sup> 12:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Protection_removal_was_against_consensus_and_needs_restoring asked for someone] to undo your unilateral and against-wide consensus unprotection of Palin on AN. Sorry. You can't do that and have it stick, no one admin can override consensus with tools. Buttons don't give extra authority and other admins had also supported protection. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 13:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

A short discussion does not mean consensus. Get consensus first, then protect. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 14:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

===Protection restored===
I've restored the protection for the moment, because there was a clear consensus, and good rationale, for doing so. I think we need to discuss over at AN if you still think full protection is unnecessary [[User:Fritzpoll|Fritzpoll]] ([[User talk:Fritzpoll|talk]]) 13:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

: There is no need for protection and a short discussion is not consensus. Will take that discussion there. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 14:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::That's cool. [[User:Fritzpoll|Fritzpoll]] ([[User talk:Fritzpoll|talk]]) 14:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::: Actually, I will [[WP:IAR]] and unprotect. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 14:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, for the record, I have no intention of undoing that action. [[User:Fritzpoll|Fritzpoll]] ([[User talk:Fritzpoll|talk]]) 14:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I know I will get blasted from undoing your protection, but so be it. Sometimes, once in a while, the need fotr [[WP:IAR]] emerges. This is one of them. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 14:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Gotta do what you gotta do - no ill-feeling from me :) [[User:Fritzpoll|Fritzpoll]] ([[User talk:Fritzpoll|talk]]) 14:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Jossi,

Please reconsider. WP:IAR should not be used in cases where there’s currently a clear consensus of good faith, intelligent editors against your position, and even worse, where there’s already a recent history of alternating admin actions. I just don’t see how this can possibly be anything but a wheel war. “Repeating an admin action when you know others disagree”. Assume, just for the sake of argument, that you might be wrong about this. What are we supposed to do? If there’s already been a long discussion, with about 14 editors in favor of full protection for 48 hours or more, do we have to restart the discussion because you disagree? Do we quite simply have to bow to your opinion because you’re willing to wheel war and others aren’t? How can we function if you’re going to claim “IAR” when consensus is clearly against you?

The system we’ve got only works when we respect consensus. If we all start wheel warring when we “know we’re right”, then we’re screwed. Convince other people first, then act. "Being right" should no more be a defense than it is in a content-dispute edit war.

Please restore full protection, per consensus, and if consensus changes later, then change it. Please. --[[User:Barneca|barneca]] ([[User talk:Barneca|talk]]) 15:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::(ec)Jossi, I think this might be a time to hold back a little. My reading of consensus is that the page should be protected for now. Instead of warring over this, perhaps you can pitch in and help out with edit requests? [[User:Ronnotel|Ronnotel]] ([[User talk:Ronnotel|talk]]) 15:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

A sad day for WP, when we cannot afford people to edit articles such as this one because of disruption. Discussion is now at [[WP:AE#Sarah Palin]]. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 15:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just a bit of a more private note, I think you meant contesting not contending on the AE discussion. [[User:Kyaa the Catlord|Kyaa the Catlord]] ([[User talk:Kyaa the Catlord|talk]]) 17:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::<s>Jossi, when an admin fully protects an article, please discuss it with him/her first before reverting the action. Then, don't wheel-war. Not doing this is disruptive to the community and a misuse of admin tools. Thanks! [[User:Cla68|Cla68]] ([[User talk:Cla68|talk]]) 23:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</s> Sorry, retracting, I didn't know an RfAR case was already being opened to examine your actions. [[User:Cla68|Cla68]] ([[User talk:Cla68|talk]]) 00:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Not to be petty, but did you get consensus for changing the template from banner to padlock? It was discussed on the talk page and consensus if any was for no change [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sarah_Palin/Archive_11#Protection_tag]. I don't have a strong opinion either way but i do think it dispiriting when admins flaunt an ability to edit according to their best judgement when no one else is afforded that opportunity. [[Special:Contributions/86.44.27.255|86.44.27.255]] ([[User talk:86.44.27.255|talk]]) 03:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

See [[Wikipedia:RFARB#Arbitrators.27_opinion_on_hearing_this_matter_.285.2F0.2F0.2F0.29]] [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 03:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:I would call your attention [[Talk:Sarah_Palin#Protection_Template.2C_again]]. We've already had two discussions about the template and neither produced a consensus to minimize it. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] ([[User talk:Dragons flight|talk]]) 04:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:Err NYB is welcome to use the talk page on this trivial issue like any other editor. [[Special:Contributions/86.44.27.255|86.44.27.255]] ([[User talk:86.44.27.255|talk]]) 04:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:: And you are welcome to sign-in. Please take it to talk. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 04:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Windows_XP#Third_opinion]] ==

Would you be so kind as to check the above talk page? My questions are languishing and I'd like to bring the issue to a close if possible. [[User:Urhixidur|Urhixidur]] ([[User talk:Urhixidur|talk]]) 18:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== RFAR ==

Leaving a message to inform you [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#MZMcBride]], which may concern you. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 18:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Palin ==

I think it would be best if you step away from editing that article if you're going to make edits that do not reflect a consensus. I know I know, something as simple as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Palin&diff=236376292&oldid=236352895 this] shouldn't really require a huge debate, but, there have been two discussions about it already, both of which resulted in leaving the large tag - so what you did was against a consensus. I'm sure you want to avoid any drama you can, and being a party in an Arbitration case probably doesn't sound the greatest to you. As a side note, I think the small one is best, but being bold on that article isn't going to help things. Not now, anyways. Just a friendly suggestion; feel free to just ignore me. Regards, [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] ([[User talk:Rjd0060|talk]]) 15:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

: It would be a good thing to avoid making claiming of consensus when there is none yet. See: [[Wikipedia:AE#Sarah_Palin]] [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 16:27, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::My point exactly - there is no consensus (and there was not one when you made the change). - [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] ([[User talk:Rjd0060|talk]]) 16:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::: There is no consensus about the protection that started this whole drama. So the point about the tag is moot. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 17:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Might I suggest that you stay away from all Palin articles for a few weeks? (if not all protection discussions?) Your actions in this area (amongst others) led to one ArbCom case already, this is just making things worse, really. [[User:SirFozzie|SirFozzie]] ([[User talk:SirFozzie|talk]]) 23:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::: Not really. Thanks for the suggestion, nonetheless. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 23:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, if you're not going to listen and rush pell-mell into disaster, at least I did my part to hold up a stop sign. *shrugs* [[User:SirFozzie|SirFozzie]] ([[User talk:SirFozzie|talk]]) 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::: You see ... you are starting from the premise that I was mistaken in invoking [[WP:IAR]] and I still believe that it was necessary. Obviously, I will not do that again, given the drama this has generated. But to ask me to sit still and allow a procedural mistake of massive proportions such as invoking the Footnote arbCom ruling to protect that page, will not do, sorr. Thanks for the advice, I am sure you mean well. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 23:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sarah Palin protection wheel war]] ==

The ''Sarah Palin wheel war'' arbitration case, which lists you as a party, has been opened.
*Evidence for the arbitrators may be submitted at [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sarah Palin protection wheel war/Evidence]]. Evidence should be submitted within one week, if possible.
*Your contributions are welcome at [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sarah Palin protection wheel war/Workshop]].

If you have any queries, please [[user talk:AGK|drop me a note]] and I'll try and assist you.

For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:AGK|<font color="#2A8B31">'''Anthøny'''</font>]] [[user talk:AGK|<font color="#2A8B31">✉</font>]] 20:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== PSTS Policy & Guidelines Proposal ==

Since you have been actively involved in past discussions regarding PSTS, please review, contribute, or comment on this proposed
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Primary_Secondary_and_Tertiary_Sources PSTS Policy & Guidelines].--[[User:SaraNoon|SaraNoon]] ([[User talk:SaraNoon|talk]]) 18:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Deletion review ==
As one of the administrators who has previously deleted [[Welsh Foundation]], please see the DRV request at [[[[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 September 8]], which I have listed on behalf of another editor, who had mucked up their list attempt. This is a courtesy notice only, and I have no opinion on the matter. Thanks, <font face="century gothic" color="#eeff00">'''[[User:Jerry|Jerry]]''' </font><small>[[User Talk:Jerry|delusional]] ¤ [[User:Jerry/Count|kangaroo]]</small> 02:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Review ==

You should be kept aware of this: [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Administrative_action_review:_Tznkai]]
--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 15:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:3RR diffs please?--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 15:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:: See [[Wikipedia:AN/3RR#User:Kelly_reported_by_MastCell_.28Result:_.29|this]] [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 15:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I've declined that one, for three reasons, in order of importance.
:::1. As I noted on [[WP:AN/3RR]] there is a distinct lack of consensus. Aside from genuinely not wishing to act against consensus, I have no intention of starting a wheel war.
:::2. When in doubt, I do not block: Kelly seems responsive to my comments without me having to use admin tools, at least thus far.
:::3. Mootness: I'd prefer to watch recent edits. Basically, since my re protection of the page, has someone reverted? If so, they will be warned, unless the action was egregious, and then blocked on further action. So, if Kelly has tripped over 3RR since this morning eastern time, Let me know.
:::I hope you trust me on this, but I do intend to enforce 3RR, but I prefer to use other resolution when it seems to be working, however slowly, as there is a lack of egregious harm.--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 17:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::: Sure. NP. Just keep and eye, would you? [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 18:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Reviewing.--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

==citation formatting==
Hi Jossi, I would like to convert the references in the [[Sahaj Marg]] page to a format where they're not listed separately each time they're cited as a source in the text. I've found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_templates this] but am very confused about how to use it. Do I just insert the bracketed "cite book" or "cite journal" in the article, save, and then go back in and fill in the blanks? What happens when I come to the second time the same book or article is used? What do I put then? Thanks. [[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle|talk]]) 19:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
: Create a section called "References" and list there all the sources using {{tl|cite}}, one per source. Then create a section called "Notes" in which you would place the {{tl|reflist}}. Then simply use ref tags in the paragraphs <tt><nowiki><ref> last name of author, (Year of publication): page number</nowiki></tt>. See an example at [[Textual criticism]]. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 19:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks -- much appreciated. [[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle|talk]]) 21:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


==1967==
== For the record ==
Yenko ordered L-78 equipped SS Camaros and swapped in the [[Chevrolet Corvette]]'s L-72 427&nbsp;in³ (7.0&nbsp;L) [[V8 engine|V8]]. The cars came with a 4.10 rear end and heavy-duty suspension. The exact number of cars produced is not known; most estimates are around 50. Yenko also installed a fiberglass replacement hood similar to the "Stinger" hood featured on 1967 big-block Corvettes.


Don Yenko's Camaros were equipped with a 427ci L-72 in them with either an M21 or M22 transmission. The horsepower was rated at {{Convert|423|hp|kW|0|abbr=on}}. Yenko Camaros were not allowed to race for Chevrolet on the drag strip because they were not made by Chevrolet. Chevy's answer to this was the Copo Camaro, or Central Office Production Order, in 1968. The Copo Camaros were equipped with the same 427ci engine and were allowed to race for Chevy.
I understand you will not think this was the ideal solution, but as 1) there was at best no consensus on the talk page as to this content's appropriateness on the political position page; 2) a gesture of good faith per your request, I made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASarah_Palin&diff=237131538&oldid=237130234 this edit] on her main talk page. Per there being [[WP:DEADLINE|no deadline]], I imagine sources will be found which would make this material fit back on the position page, and then it can be consolidated in a way agreeable to all. Thanks for considering. [[User:Baccyak4H|Baccyak4H]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Baccyak4H|Yak!]]) 21:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


==1968==
== Your comment on Kelly's talk page ==
Encouraged by the success of the 1967 model, Yenko continued to produce his Camaros. All cars came equipped with the M-21 close-ratio four speed [[manual transmission]]. A large, twin-scooped hood replaced the "Stinger" version, and Yenko badges graced the sides and tail light plate.


==1969==
Not helping, borderline baiting. Let Kelly save some face please.--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 02:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
For 1969, the dealership worked with Chevrolet to have the L-72 engines installed on the factory assembly line using a Central Office Production Order, or COPO. The orders included power [[disc brake]]s, a 4.10 Positraction rear end, a stronger front stabilizer, and a heavy-duty 4-core aluminum radiator. Buyers of the car had the option of either the M-21 four speed or the Turbo Hydramatic 400 [[automatic transmission]]. A total of 201 cars were sold in 1969, 171 with four speed transmissions and 30 with automatic transmissions. Yenko rounded out the visual package with front and rear spoilers, a cowl-induction hood, special "Yenko 427" badges, twin stripes down the flanks and hood, and the '''sYc''' (Yenko Super Car) badge.
: I hear you and self-revereted. But what is obvious, is obvious. She/he has accused long-term ad well established editors in a manner that is quite inappropriate. If I was not involved in editing these articles, I would not be so lenient as you have been. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 02:47, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you.--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 02:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:Jossi, you're an entrenched editor on the [[Sarah Palin]] article, and, as such, it would be best to withhold your opinions on how other administrators should handle situations involving your fellow editors. Saying you would not have been "so lenient" as an administrator against an editor that has been involved in disputes with you further muddies what should be a much clearer line between your editing and your administrating, especially given the significant controversy and challenging environment surrounding that article. [[user:j|<span style="background: #222; color: #fff;">&nbsp;&nbsp;user:j&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[user talk:j|<span style="background: #fff; color: #222;"><small>&nbsp;&nbsp;(aka justen)&nbsp;&nbsp;</small></span>]] 04:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks for your feedback. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 04:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


Almost 40 years later, these Camaros have been appraised and sold for well over $2.2 million USD at Barrett-Jackson auctions.
Jossi, for what it's worth, I sympathize with some of your thoughts on the [[Sarah Palin]] page. As you know, I made one contribution to the page based on [[LexisNexis]] and [[Factiva]] research results of multiple reliable sources verifying information and it was disregarded because some editors felt it was "not notable" -- apparently, ''The Washington Post'', ''NPR'', and other major news sources disagreed with their judgment but that didn't give anyone pause. Meanwhile, it seems that a handful of editors have discovered the power of [[WP:CONSENSUS]] to circumvent [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:NOR]], and [[WP:V]] -- not to mention widely accepted guidelines like [[WP:RS]]. I'm disappointed with some of the unhelpful comments and decisions that were made on that talk page. [[WP:BLP]], for example, was never intended to be used for political purposes to remove inconveniently sourced facts. It was a policy established to remove clear cases of libel (rare as they may be to prove), unsourced malicious comments, and harm to innocent third-parties too young to defend themselves. In any case, you have at least the respect of one other editor on Wikipedia. As for me, I'm going to stay away from the page for a while. Keep up the good work. It doesn't go unnoticed. Best regards, [[User:J Readings|J Readings]] ([[User talk:J Readings|talk]]) 05:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
As of sep 2008, there are 2 known automatic transmission 1969 Yenko Camaro's. as stated by ESPN auction show.


==1981==
Jossi, I encourage you to continue the good work you have been doing. Wikipedia needs to have accurate, timely, interesting, informative, well researched and documented material in its articles not locked up on its talk pages.[[User:Rktect|Rktect]] ([[User talk:Rktect|talk]]) 10:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:''See [[Second-generation Chevrolet Camaro]]''
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kelly&diff=next&oldid=237006527 woof woof]. I can't believe this ID Cabal crap. Apparently, the new method of attacking an editor is to accuse them of being part of a cabal. Well, I'm proud to be in the Wikipedia project with you. Otherwise. Yawn. [[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 17:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
1981 was Don Yenko's last run at making the ultimate performance car.
:: [[WP:CABAL|Some people see ghosts anywhere]] :) ''If enough people act independently towards the same goal, the end result is indistinguishable from a conspiracy.'' [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 17:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


The 1981 Yenko Turbo Z, as it was known as, was based on a 1981 Camaro.
== RE:Semipro ==


Don Yenko's comments on the car are:
Has there been an incident? If not, leave it be until it is.--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 15:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


''From a performance standpoint, cars have shown a slow but steady decline in the last ten years. Low compression engines to accommodate low octane fuel, are now the norm. Ever-increasing numbers of emissions controls have sapped their share of horsepower from once potent engines. To recover these accumulated horsepower losses without increasing pollution presents a real challenge. After months of testing and development we have done it. Working closely with some competent people at Turbo International a system emerged that does everything we hoped for. This system, like all others, captures the energy to improve the induction of fuel/air mixture. The similarity to the other systems stops right here. Our system uses no priority valve so there's no turbo-lag. We don't have a waste gate to malfunction either. And since all of the fuel entering the engine is "processed" through the turbo, you get better fuel economy and improved response even without being in boost. Every nut, bolt and fitting used in this system is the best available. This has all been developed with each and every emission control connected and functional.''[http://www.copo.com/LM1-Yenko-Turbo-Z-History.htm]
== Nomination for Adminship of Cirt ==


==1969 Continuation Series==
I just noticed that User Cirt has been nominated for adminship. This person used to have the username Smeelgova and Smee. In the nomination, the reference previous user accounts and blocks say that it was for edit warring but not incivility. I was in a number of interactions with Smeelgova/Smee. Cirt coresponded extensively with the editor [[pax arcane]] who became very beligerant on the Landmark Education Page. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cirt&diff=prev&oldid=210888820 .


Recently a company out of North Carolina called Classic Automotive Restoration Specialists[http://www.classicautomotiverestoration.com] has restarted production of the '69 Yenko Camaro. Don Yenko sold 201 of his infamous COPO-program Camaros out of his Canonsburg,PA dealership. As reported in the March '08 issue of Muscle Car Review the vehicle is a fully licensed and certified Yenko starting at #202. The 427 engine under the hood was built by GM who has brought back the big block engines from the muscle car era. The rest of the components took 2 1/2 years to track down the original machinery. Options offered on the vehicle are the same as was available back in 1969 including paint colors. The car costs around 60% less than some of the current 39-year old Yenko Camaro survivors but drives like an old car would have when it was new off the Canonsburg, PA dealership.
Here is the link to the discussion: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cirt&diff=prev&oldid=210888820]]


==External links==
I do not think it is appropriate for the person who was the editor Smeelgova to be an admin on Wikipedia. [[User:Triplejumper|Triplejumper]] ([[User talk:Triplejumper|talk]]) 19:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
* [http://www.yenko.net 427 Camaros]
* [http://www.firstgencamaro.com/yenko.html More Yenko Camaro information]


[[Category:Chevrolet vehicles|Camaro]]
== [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cirt]] ==


[[fr:Camaro Yenko]]
I had to remove your oppose (and the related conversation) from the history. Please feel free to insert a refactored oppose on this RfA. Please do not take this personally - I am not doing this to discount your oppose on this RfA. Thanks for your understanding and apologies for the inconvenience. [[User:WBOSITG|<font color=#000066>'''weburiedoursecretsinthegarden'''</font>]] 21:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
[[sv:Yenko Camaro]]
: Thanks, no problems. [[User:Jossi|≈ jossi ≈]] <small>[[User_talk:Jossi|(talk)]]</small> 21:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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Yenko Camaro
1969 Yenko Camaro from the Petersen Automotive Museum
Overview
ManufacturerChevrolet
Production1967-1969
AssemblyVan Nuys, California
Norwood, Ohio
Body and chassis
Classpony car
muscle car
sports car
Body style2-door coupé
2-door convertible
LayoutFR layout
PlatformF-body
Powertrain
Engine6.6L V8
7.0L V8
Transmission4-speed manual

2-speed automatic

3-speed automatic

The Yenko Super Camaro was a modified Chevrolet Camaro prepared by Yenko Chevrolet, under the command of Don Yenko. The originals were all first-generation Camaros. When the Camaro debuted, a General Motors corporate edict prevented it from carrying an engine larger than 400 in³ (6.6 L) V8; this put the Camaro at a serious disadvantage to the Ford Mustang and Plymouth Barracuda, since neither Ford nor Plymouth had a such a limit. Don Yenko, however, knew there was a market for an ultra powerful Camaro and found ways around the GM limit.

1967

Yenko ordered L-78 equipped SS Camaros and swapped in the Chevrolet Corvette's L-72 427 in³ (7.0 L) V8. The cars came with a 4.10 rear end and heavy-duty suspension. The exact number of cars produced is not known; most estimates are around 50. Yenko also installed a fiberglass replacement hood similar to the "Stinger" hood featured on 1967 big-block Corvettes.

Don Yenko's Camaros were equipped with a 427ci L-72 in them with either an M21 or M22 transmission. The horsepower was rated at 423 hp (315 kW). Yenko Camaros were not allowed to race for Chevrolet on the drag strip because they were not made by Chevrolet. Chevy's answer to this was the Copo Camaro, or Central Office Production Order, in 1968. The Copo Camaros were equipped with the same 427ci engine and were allowed to race for Chevy.

1968

Encouraged by the success of the 1967 model, Yenko continued to produce his Camaros. All cars came equipped with the M-21 close-ratio four speed manual transmission. A large, twin-scooped hood replaced the "Stinger" version, and Yenko badges graced the sides and tail light plate.

1969

For 1969, the dealership worked with Chevrolet to have the L-72 engines installed on the factory assembly line using a Central Office Production Order, or COPO. The orders included power disc brakes, a 4.10 Positraction rear end, a stronger front stabilizer, and a heavy-duty 4-core aluminum radiator. Buyers of the car had the option of either the M-21 four speed or the Turbo Hydramatic 400 automatic transmission. A total of 201 cars were sold in 1969, 171 with four speed transmissions and 30 with automatic transmissions. Yenko rounded out the visual package with front and rear spoilers, a cowl-induction hood, special "Yenko 427" badges, twin stripes down the flanks and hood, and the sYc (Yenko Super Car) badge.

Almost 40 years later, these Camaros have been appraised and sold for well over $2.2 million USD at Barrett-Jackson auctions. As of sep 2008, there are 2 known automatic transmission 1969 Yenko Camaro's. as stated by ESPN auction show.

1981

See Second-generation Chevrolet Camaro

1981 was Don Yenko's last run at making the ultimate performance car.

The 1981 Yenko Turbo Z, as it was known as, was based on a 1981 Camaro.

Don Yenko's comments on the car are:

From a performance standpoint, cars have shown a slow but steady decline in the last ten years. Low compression engines to accommodate low octane fuel, are now the norm. Ever-increasing numbers of emissions controls have sapped their share of horsepower from once potent engines. To recover these accumulated horsepower losses without increasing pollution presents a real challenge. After months of testing and development we have done it. Working closely with some competent people at Turbo International a system emerged that does everything we hoped for. This system, like all others, captures the energy to improve the induction of fuel/air mixture. The similarity to the other systems stops right here. Our system uses no priority valve so there's no turbo-lag. We don't have a waste gate to malfunction either. And since all of the fuel entering the engine is "processed" through the turbo, you get better fuel economy and improved response even without being in boost. Every nut, bolt and fitting used in this system is the best available. This has all been developed with each and every emission control connected and functional.[1]

1969 Continuation Series

Recently a company out of North Carolina called Classic Automotive Restoration Specialists[2] has restarted production of the '69 Yenko Camaro. Don Yenko sold 201 of his infamous COPO-program Camaros out of his Canonsburg,PA dealership. As reported in the March '08 issue of Muscle Car Review the vehicle is a fully licensed and certified Yenko starting at #202. The 427 engine under the hood was built by GM who has brought back the big block engines from the muscle car era. The rest of the components took 2 1/2 years to track down the original machinery. Options offered on the vehicle are the same as was available back in 1969 including paint colors. The car costs around 60% less than some of the current 39-year old Yenko Camaro survivors but drives like an old car would have when it was new off the Canonsburg, PA dealership.

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