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== Untitled ==

This page is very bare indeed. I have added a little on serious local interest areas such as Tide Mills, the Seaplane Base, and the Heritage Marice Hospital, but the page needs taming and tidying, plus a lot more references and some decent pictures.
This page is very bare indeed. I have added a little on serious local interest areas such as Tide Mills, the Seaplane Base, and the Heritage Marice Hospital, but the page needs taming and tidying, plus a lot more references and some decent pictures.
[[User:Timtrent|Fiddle Faddle]] 21:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
[[User:Timtrent|Fiddle Faddle]] 21:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)




==Merge proposals==
In accordance with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_UK_geography/How_to_write_about_settlements] the Wikipedia notes on writing about settlements, one of the recommendations is that, in order to reduce the number of stubs, villages and other settlements (and in this case, other things) within the place should be in one article. Hence the proposals.

I am now setting about a complete rewrite of this article, using the recommendations, so would be glad of time to do so before further comments are made!
[[User:Peter Shearan|Peter Shearan]] ([[User talk:Peter Shearan|talk]]) 13:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

===Agree===
# '''Support''' - probably with the exception of [[Newhaven Incinerator]] [[User:Kentem|Blackwave......]] ([[User talk:Kentem|talk]]) 19:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
# '''Support''' - I feel that the Marconi Radio Station and the Seaplane base should really have their articles expanded, rather than merge into this article. That being said, provided redirects are set up and no information is lost I will not oppose a merge. I simply feel that there is better scope to expand the other articles as free standing articles. [[User:Timtrent|Fiddle Faddle]] ([[User talk:Timtrent|talk]]) 13:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
# '''Support''' - I agree that it would be better if the stubs expanded but I do not see that happening. A larger Newhaven article will attract more editors and increase the chances of the subjects being expanded upon. With luck, one day there will be enough to split them out again. [[User:MortimerCat|MortimerCat]] ([[User talk:MortimerCat|talk]]) 00:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
# '''Support''' - As both [[User:Timtrent|Fiddle Faddle]] and [[User:MortimerCat|MortimerCat]] state above, it would be good to see the stubs expanded but until there is enough material to enlarge them then merging them to make a single article makes sense to me. They can always be unmerged at a later date. With regard to the[[ Newhaven incinerator]], that needs a separate and neutral write-up, laying-out the pros and cons of the development.--[[User:Kennelliver|Kennelliver]] ([[User talk:Kennelliver|talk]]) 09:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
# '''Support''' - all other articles are stubs, with minimal work in the past [[User:Jezarnold|Jez]] [[User talk: Jezarnold|☎]] [[Special:Emailuser/Jezarnold |✉]] [[Special:Contributions/Jezarnold |✍]] 19:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
===Oppose===

===Neutral===
# '''Neutral, but weak agree''' - I would not like the Denton stub merged with Newhaven, one is a village the other a industrial port, please don't merge. [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]]

== Merge Proposals again. ==

As part of my Sussex merge purge, I have removed some of the merge tags here. The Marconi stub already redirected to a Marconi article. The incinerator and seaplane I now think should be left as their own article. As Fiddle Faddle said above, they need work, but there is better scope left on their own. The Maritime museum article is a one-liner and I will merge that in due course. ++ [[User:MortimerCat|MortimerCat]] ([[User talk:MortimerCat|talk]]) 20:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Tide Mills ==

I discovered Tide Mills is actually in the parish of Seaford, therefore technically its mention should be moved to [[Seaford, East Sussex]]. I left it behind just in case it has a greater association with Newhaven, which means it probably should stay. Maybe a local can comment. [[User:MortimerCat|MortimerCat]] ([[User talk:MortimerCat|talk]]) 11:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' Per consensus, [[WP:SMALLDETAILS]] applies. [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 14:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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[[:Newhaven, East Sussex]] → {{no redirect|Newhaven}} – most popular city with the exact name (not the [[New Haven]] in Connecticut&#32;[[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 22:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC) <small>''This is a contested technical request'' ([[Special:Permalink/1212257497|permalink]]). [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 23:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</small>
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*'''Oppose'''. Many people might be looking for any of the other pages, even the ones with spaces in their names. Honestly, I think the safest bet is to keep it the way it is, in which "Newhaven" is a redirect to the disambiguation page "[[New Haven (disambiguation)]]". <small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 06:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
*I'd wandered about this myself, it gets the most views for the single word[[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Newhaven,_East_Sussex|Newhaven,_Edinburgh|Newhaven_(horse)|Newhaven,_Derbyshire|New_Haven,_Connecticut|Newhaven,_Victoria]] and appears to be the most important place with just 1 word as the Edinburgh one isn't a separate settlement and the other 2 places are much smaller. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 19:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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Untitled[edit]

This page is very bare indeed. I have added a little on serious local interest areas such as Tide Mills, the Seaplane Base, and the Heritage Marice Hospital, but the page needs taming and tidying, plus a lot more references and some decent pictures. Fiddle Faddle 21:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]



Merge proposals[edit]

In accordance with [1] the Wikipedia notes on writing about settlements, one of the recommendations is that, in order to reduce the number of stubs, villages and other settlements (and in this case, other things) within the place should be in one article. Hence the proposals.

I am now setting about a complete rewrite of this article, using the recommendations, so would be glad of time to do so before further comments are made! Peter Shearan (talk) 13:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree[edit]

  1. Support - probably with the exception of Newhaven Incinerator Blackwave...... (talk) 19:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support - I feel that the Marconi Radio Station and the Seaplane base should really have their articles expanded, rather than merge into this article. That being said, provided redirects are set up and no information is lost I will not oppose a merge. I simply feel that there is better scope to expand the other articles as free standing articles. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 13:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support - I agree that it would be better if the stubs expanded but I do not see that happening. A larger Newhaven article will attract more editors and increase the chances of the subjects being expanded upon. With luck, one day there will be enough to split them out again. MortimerCat (talk) 00:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support - As both Fiddle Faddle and MortimerCat state above, it would be good to see the stubs expanded but until there is enough material to enlarge them then merging them to make a single article makes sense to me. They can always be unmerged at a later date. With regard to theNewhaven incinerator, that needs a separate and neutral write-up, laying-out the pros and cons of the development.--Kennelliver (talk) 09:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support - all other articles are stubs, with minimal work in the past Jez    19:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose[edit]

Neutral[edit]

  1. Neutral, but weak agree - I would not like the Denton stub merged with Newhaven, one is a village the other a industrial port, please don't merge. unsigned

Merge Proposals again.[edit]

As part of my Sussex merge purge, I have removed some of the merge tags here. The Marconi stub already redirected to a Marconi article. The incinerator and seaplane I now think should be left as their own article. As Fiddle Faddle said above, they need work, but there is better scope left on their own. The Maritime museum article is a one-liner and I will merge that in due course. ++ MortimerCat (talk) 20:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tide Mills[edit]

I discovered Tide Mills is actually in the parish of Seaford, therefore technically its mention should be moved to Seaford, East Sussex. I left it behind just in case it has a greater association with Newhaven, which means it probably should stay. Maybe a local can comment. MortimerCat (talk) 11:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 6 March 2024[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus, WP:SMALLDETAILS applies. – robertsky (talk) 14:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Newhaven, East SussexNewhaven – most popular city with the exact name (not the New Haven in Connecticut JuniperChill (talk) 22:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JuniperChill (talk) 23:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Many people might be looking for any of the other pages, even the ones with spaces in their names. Honestly, I think the safest bet is to keep it the way it is, in which "Newhaven" is a redirect to the disambiguation page "New Haven (disambiguation)". Paintspot Infez (talk) 06:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd wandered about this myself, it gets the most views for the single word[[2]] and appears to be the most important place with just 1 word as the Edinburgh one isn't a separate settlement and the other 2 places are much smaller. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There's no ambiguity with any New Haven variant, per WP:SMALLDETAILS, and of the Newhaven entries this appears to have the greatest long-term and common usage significance. The other localities are tiny, and while the horse was a Melbourne Cup winner, its lasting significance is probably less than an enduring town.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support per Amakuru. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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