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==Ventral fin==
==Ventral fin==
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A: The ventral fins stabilise the airframe due to the addition of the MESA RADAR.
A: The ventral fins stabilise the airframe due to the addition of the MESA RADAR.


==Renaming article==
The ventral fins also house a HF antenna. There's 3 HF's installed.
The ventral fins also house a HF antenna. There's 3 HF's installed.


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: That sounds reasonable. --[[User:Nick Dowling|Nick Dowling]] 09:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
: That sounds reasonable. --[[User:Nick Dowling|Nick Dowling]] 09:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Rename done (as Boeing 737 AEW&C) [[User:Mark83|Mark83]] 00:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Rename done (as Boeing 737 AEW&C) [[User:Mark83|Mark83]] 00:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I may be mistanken, but I think Boeing has renamed the type again since 2006. It now refers to the type as '''Boeing E-7 Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C)''' - ref [https://www.boeing.com/defense/e-7-airborne-early-warning-and-control/ ] . It therefore could be considered to rename the article once again. [[User:Yosh3000|Yosh3000]] ([[User talk:Yosh3000|talk]]) 15:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


==Wedgetails running two years late==
==Wedgetails running two years late==
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== Surveillance radius ==
== Surveillance radius ==

Is the (projected) surveillance range of this system the same or even better as those on B707 and B767 aircrafts? [[Special:Contributions/84.173.207.138|84.173.207.138]] ([[User talk:84.173.207.138|talk]]) 22:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Is the (projected) surveillance range of this system the same or even better as those on B707 and B767 aircrafts? [[Special:Contributions/84.173.207.138|84.173.207.138]] ([[User talk:84.173.207.138|talk]]) 22:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


== Metric conversion error ==
== Metric conversion error ==
The wingspan listed in this article is "117 ft 2 in (34.3 m)". If I'm calculating correctly 117 ft 2 in is not 34.3 m. If anybody happens to know the correct wingspan, do us a favor and fix that line. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.79.108.16|70.79.108.16]] ([[User talk:70.79.108.16|talk]]) 09:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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==Renaming article==
The web page name is a bit odd. For other military aircraft, the web page most often includes the official military designation for the airplane type ("E-7" in this particular case). <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.73.135.203|173.73.135.203]] ([[User talk:173.73.135.203#top|talk]]) 17:08, 25 August 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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[[:Boeing 737 AEW&C]] → {{no redirect|Boeing E-7 AEW&C}} – Boeing refers to the aircraft as 'Boeing E-7 Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C)' - ref https://www.boeing.com/defense/e-7-airborne-early-warning-and-control/ [[User:Yosh3000|Yosh3000]] ([[User talk:Yosh3000|talk]]) 10:55, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' per nom. While there are many reliable sources that use the "737 AEW&C" name, there are more that use "E-7", so the latter is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] as well as the [[WP:OFFICIALNAME]]. [[User:Rosbif73|Rosbif73]] ([[User talk:Rosbif73|talk]]) 
*:For clarity and based on subsequent discussions, support either '''Boeing E-7 Wedgetail''' or simply '''Boeing E-7'''. [[User:Rosbif73|Rosbif73]] ([[User talk:Rosbif73|talk]]) 16:35, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support Boeing E-7 Wedgetail''' per nom. My only concern is that some editors may try to add this aircraft to lists of [[1962 United States Tri-Service aircraft designation system|US Tri-Service designations]] due to its similar format, as they did with the [[Boeing MQ-28 Ghost Bat]]. As far as I am aware, no Tri-Service designation has been officially assigned to the E-7 yet. - [[User:ZLEA|<span style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:ZLEA|<span style="color:#6B8E23">T</span>]]</sub><span style="color:#6B8E23">\</span><sup>[[Special:Contributions/ZLEA|<span style="color:#6B8E23">C</span>]]</sup> 15:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Alternative move''', if at all. The name now coming into increasing use is the '''Boeing E-7 Wedgetail'''. This article is going to end up there soon enough. I wouldn't waste time arguing whether an intermediate name might predominate for a few weeks. &mdash; Cheers, [[User:Steelpillow|Steelpillow]] ([[User Talk:Steelpillow|Talk]]) 17:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support <s>Boring</s> Boeing E-7 Wedgetail''' Overdue. [[User:Schierbecker|Schierbecker]] ([[User talk:Schierbecker|talk]]) 17:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
** Boring -> Boeing right? [[User:Fnlayson|-Fnlayson]] ([[User talk:Fnlayson|talk]]) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
***Oops, autocorrect. Boeing is ''not'' boring. [[User:Schierbecker|Schierbecker]] ([[User talk:Schierbecker|talk]]) 22:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
****It is boring to watch how often the Senator for Washington State acts as the Senator for Boeing. [[User:Buckshot06|Buckshot06]] [[User_talk:Buckshot06|(talk)]] 07:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Support''' either "Boeing E-7 AEW&C" or "Boeing E-7 Wedgetail". Regards [[User:Fnlayson|-Fnlayson]] ([[User talk:Fnlayson|talk]]) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Support''' either '''Boeing E-7 Wedgetail''' or simply '''Boeing E-7'''. Oppose Boeing E-7 AEW&C. [[User:RPC7778|RPC7778]] ([[User talk:RPC7778|talk]]) 16:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


:* For the record I think that both '''Boeing E-7 Wedgetail''' or simply '''Boeing E-7''' are better than ''Boeing E-7 AEW&C''. The proposed ''Boeing E-7 AEW&C'' was just selected to rename from the old official name to the new one. (Ref WP:OFFICIALNAME ). Best regards.
The wingspan listed in this article is "117 ft 2 in (34.3 m)". If I'm calculating correctly 117 ft 2 in is not 34.3 m. If anybody happens to know the correct wingspan, do us a favor and fix that line.
:[[User:Yosh3000|Yosh3000]] ([[User talk:Yosh3000|talk]]) 22:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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Ventral fin[edit]

Q: how does the ventral fin contribute to the aerodynamics of the aircraft?

A: The ventral fins stabilise the airframe due to the addition of the MESA RADAR.

The ventral fins also house a HF antenna. There's 3 HF's installed.

Requested move[edit]

Rename: In light of the fact that Turkey and now South Korea have purchased the 737 AEW&C, I'd like to rename the page as Boeing 737 AEW&C. Wedgetail is the project name for the Australian aircraft, and is not used by the other customers. 737 AEW&C is the name by which Boeing refers to the type [1]. - BillCJ 08:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds reasonable. --Nick Dowling 09:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename done (as Boeing 737 AEW&C) Mark83 00:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may be mistanken, but I think Boeing has renamed the type again since 2006. It now refers to the type as Boeing E-7 Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) - ref [2] . It therefore could be considered to rename the article once again. Yosh3000 (talk) 15:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wedgetails running two years late[edit]

November 24, 2006 AUSTRALIA'S Wedgetail surveillance aircraft are running two years late and might need a redesign of key components to get them to work properly, Defence has revealed.

Speaking after a two-week visit to Boeing in the United States, Air Vice Marshal Chris Deeble, program manager for the Wedgetail program, expressed confidence that Boeing and its sub-contractors would get it right eventually.

Air Vice Marshal Deeble said final details of a delivery schedule were still to be worked out but on current estimates the first aircraft would now arrive early in 2009.

More

http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20813437-31037,00.html

Surveillance radius[edit]

Is the (projected) surveillance range of this system the same or even better as those on B707 and B767 aircrafts? 84.173.207.138 (talk) 22:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Metric conversion error[edit]

The wingspan listed in this article is "117 ft 2 in (34.3 m)". If I'm calculating correctly 117 ft 2 in is not 34.3 m. If anybody happens to know the correct wingspan, do us a favor and fix that line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.108.16 (talk) 09:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment comment[edit]

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Has refs/pics/stats, but not a very good intro and history.

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Renaming article[edit]

The web page name is a bit odd. For other military aircraft, the web page most often includes the official military designation for the airplane type ("E-7" in this particular case). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.135.203 (talk) 17:08, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 January 2024[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Move to Boeing E-7 Wedgetail (non-admin closure) Acebulf (talk | contribs) 10:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Boeing 737 AEW&CBoeing E-7 AEW&C – Boeing refers to the aircraft as 'Boeing E-7 Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C)' - ref https://www.boeing.com/defense/e-7-airborne-early-warning-and-control/ Yosh3000 (talk) 10:55, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support per nom. While there are many reliable sources that use the "737 AEW&C" name, there are more that use "E-7", so the latter is the WP:COMMONNAME as well as the WP:OFFICIALNAME. Rosbif73 (talk
    For clarity and based on subsequent discussions, support either Boeing E-7 Wedgetail or simply Boeing E-7. Rosbif73 (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Boeing E-7 Wedgetail per nom. My only concern is that some editors may try to add this aircraft to lists of US Tri-Service designations due to its similar format, as they did with the Boeing MQ-28 Ghost Bat. As far as I am aware, no Tri-Service designation has been officially assigned to the E-7 yet. - ZLEA T\C 15:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative move, if at all. The name now coming into increasing use is the Boeing E-7 Wedgetail. This article is going to end up there soon enough. I wouldn't waste time arguing whether an intermediate name might predominate for a few weeks. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Boring Boeing E-7 Wedgetail Overdue. Schierbecker (talk) 17:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Boring -> Boeing right? -Fnlayson (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oops, autocorrect. Boeing is not boring. Schierbecker (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • It is boring to watch how often the Senator for Washington State acts as the Senator for Boeing. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either "Boeing E-7 AEW&C" or "Boeing E-7 Wedgetail". Regards -Fnlayson (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either Boeing E-7 Wedgetail or simply Boeing E-7. Oppose Boeing E-7 AEW&C. RPC7778 (talk) 16:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the record I think that both Boeing E-7 Wedgetail or simply Boeing E-7 are better than Boeing E-7 AEW&C. The proposed Boeing E-7 AEW&C was just selected to rename from the old official name to the new one. (Ref WP:OFFICIALNAME ). Best regards.
Yosh3000 (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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