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Dallas

Category:Landmarks in Dallas to Category:Landmarks in Dallas, Texas

Category:Mayors of Dallas to Category:Mayors of Dallas, Texas

Category:People from Dallas to Category:People from Dallas, Texas

Category:Sports in Dallas to Category:Sports in Dallas, Texas

Rename, Consistency with other Dallas, Texas categories. --Vossanova ^o< 19:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Banned documentaries

Delete - the category for banned films was recently deleted. Logically this category for a subset of films should also be deleted. Otto4711 18:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Doczilla 18:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Broadcast media in Oklahoma City

Duplicates both its own subcategories and Category:Oklahoma City Media, whose scope is more in line with the rest of Category:American media by market. I've submitted OKC Media for speedy renaming for capitalization, which leaves this category to delete. -choster 18:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High Schools in Yuba County, California

Merge into Category:High schools in California. -- Prove It ^(talk) 17:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High schools in yuba-sutter area

Merge into Category:High schools in California. -- Prove It ^(talk) 16:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High Schools in Sutter County, California

Uperge back into Category:High schools in California. -- Prove It ^(talk) 16:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Italian Writers in French language

Rename to Category:Italian writers in French, convention of Category:French-language writers. -- Prove It ^(talk) 16:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chancellors of Washington University in St. Louis

Rename to Category:Washington University in St. Louis presidents, convention of Category:American university presidents. -- Prove It ^(talk) 16:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mild oppose if the office is indeed "Chancellor." No reason not to Rename to Category:Washington University in St. Louis chancellors to follow the convention while still preserving the correct name of the office. Otto4711 16:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per Otto4711. -- Prove It ^(talk) 17:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:German parties, which reject Agenda 2010

Delete, categorization of political parties based on how they stand on one single issue. -- Prove It ^(talk) 15:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christian individuals in the United Kingdom

The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was speedy delete as creator error. Mairi 18:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:British Christians, convention of Category:Christians by nationality. -- Prove It ^(talk) 15:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I created this in error during recategorisation work, and have done the merge already. Neddyseagoon - talk 15:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, I'll update the tag. -- Prove It ^(talk) 16:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Triple J Hottest 100 Winners

Delete, categorization by published list, see Triple J Hottest 100. -- Prove It ^(talk) 15:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Crime Syndicate members

Delete and Listify per multiple previous CfDs for super-teams. Otto4711 14:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and Listify as per nom. — J Greb 15:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/listify per previous. Doczilla 17:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Characters in Patrick Henry's Life

Delete, Somehow People by people doesn't seem like a good way to categorize. -- Prove It ^(talk) 14:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete bad precedent. Lesnail 15:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Patrick Henry is not notable enough to have his own category. Dr. Submillimeter 16:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete vague category. Doczilla 17:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Transport in Asia

Category:Transportation in Oman --> Category:Transport in Oman

Category:Transportation in Saudi Arabia --> Category:Transport in Saudi Arabia

Category:Transportation in Israel --> Category:Transport in Israel

Category:Transportation in Israel by city --> Category:Transport in Israel by city

Category:Transportation in Haifa --> Category:Transport in Haifa

Category:Transportation in Jerusalem --> Category:Transport in Jerusalem

Category:Transportation in Tel Aviv --> Category:Transport in Tel Aviv

Category:Transportation companies of Israel --> Category:Transport companies of Israel

Rename all. All mentioned countries seem to use "transport" form. Categories are currently in "transportation" form, because almost all countries' categories and articles were started from CIA World Factbook data which uses American "transportation" form.

Israel: [1]

Oman: [2]

Saudi Arabia: [3] - Darwinek 14:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed new Category:Long words in English

I propose that a new category be set up for long words in English. I suggest that all words mentioned in the article Longest word in English should be eligible to be included. At the moment the article Floccinaucinihilipilification has no categories, and this proposal would find it a home and companions. The proposal is posted here in case it's a bad idea or a category that has been deleted already. If there is a more appropriate place to raise it then please advise me to move it. Fayenatic london 14:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per previous CfDs on subjective categories like "long." In fact we may have deleted a longest words category once already. The problem comes when trying to decide what qualifies as "long." How many letters constitutes a "long" word and why is the mark set at the number and not another? Otto4711 14:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, Length of name is non-defining. Plus, we can't specify a number without it being arbitrary. And if we don't specify a number, it's subjective. I'm sorry it just doesn't work. -- Prove It ^(talk) 16:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Supervillains by adversary

Delete this and all sub-categories. Very rarely does a superviallain (other than those who appear once and are never seen again and are thus not notable) fight only one superhero or super-team. Categorizing villains by whoever they happen to fight once or even several times is a haphazard scheme. As a concrete example, look at someone like Punisher. He's categorized as a Wolverine villain, a Spider-Man villain, a Hulk villain and a Captain America villain, but then he himself is used to categorize other villains! Then you have the POV problems inherent in any "villain" category. For example, you have someone like Hulk, who has fought pretty much everyone in the Marvel universe at one time or another, and he isn't categorized as a villain of anyone. Otto4711 13:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As they stand, Delete as per nom. This is a case where some of the cats may be valid if two things occure: 1) name changes to (Superhero/team/villain) advisaries and 2) trimming by primary use. — J Greb 16:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Aside from the POV problems and the problem with villains becoming heroes or vice versa, these heroes often have common villains. For example, Doctor Doom is probably a "villain" for most of the Marvel characters in the above list, although he has also worked with many of the above heroes before. Dr. Submillimeter 16:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Eventually every supervillain fights every superhero, making these categories meaningless regardless of the POV issue on the word "villain". Doczilla 17:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Islands of the Galápagos

Propose renaming Category:Islands of the Galápagos to Category:Galápagos Islands

Rename. This category is formatted in the style used for categories that simply group articles about individual islands, but it has a broader scope than that. It is possible to adjust the title to reflect this without losing much. Pinoakcourt 13:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom.

Category:Football Player

This category and Category:Young Football Player are both empty, don't follow capitaliziation conventions, and are probably redundant with existing categories. They were probably created by an eleven-year old editor, so be polite, please.Kchase T 12:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I was under the impression that empty categories didn't really exist. Is this not true? If they do, then delete. Lesnail 15:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- They can be speedied if they have been empty for four days (I'm not sure how one is supposed to determine that), but this is just my way to make sure I don't forget.--Kchase T 16:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick

Propose renaming Category:Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick to Category:The Chronicles of Riddick

Rename, Since the release of the film The Chronicles of Riddick, the film Pitch Black has been released and is now referred to as "The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black" to follow all the subsequent releases to the franchise. Therefore it is not nesicarry to have "Pitch Black" in the name of the category. Also having both titles is a little combursome and oddlooking. I propose shortening the title to simply "The Chronicles of Riddick" Animedude 08:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unsupported claim regarding film title. If it was released with a copyright under the title of Pitch Black. Maybe the most recent DVD box says the longer colon-linked title, but (1) it never had a theatrical release under that name, (2) the film may or may not still say Pitch Black when played from the DVD, (3) you have cited no sources for your claims, and (4) this ain't Star Wars. Do you realize how many DVDs have altered titles, special editions, platinum editions, and the like? Doczilla 08:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Riddick franchise, otherwise just Delete and be done with it. Otto4711 15:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Album stubs/Child list

Propose renaming Category:Album stubs/Child list to Template:Album stub categories

Move to template namespace, This is a template, not a category. Eli Falk 07:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename: I created the page and no one else has contributed. I support the proposal. Do we need further discussion? Alex valavanis 09:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People with anxiety disorder

Delete inaccurately named, inappropriate, and essentially unpopulated category.

1. Name is inaccurate. There is no specific disorder called anxiety disorder. The group of anxiety disorders, plural, include generalized anxiety disorder, phobias, panic disorder, and others, not one called "anxiety disorder".

2. The disorders mentioned above are not defining characteristics anyway. People should not be categorized based on conditions that do not tend to be lifelong. Some experience it on and on for years. Some experience very brief difficulties. Categorizing by states people experience is inappropriate, especially when those states involve moods. We all experience a wide range of moods.

3. Except for a subcategory, this category is unpopulated. Doczilla 06:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. This is not a defining characteristic. --BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 10:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Pinoakcourt 12:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian rock groups

Propose renaming Category:Canadian rock groups to Category:Canadian rock music groups

Rename, The proposed renaming would be more consistent with category wording for other nations e.g. Category:Australian rock music groups, Category:British rock music groups, Category:Spanish rock music groups, etc. Dl2000 04:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per above. Doczilla 09:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Neonblak 16:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Blade Runner cast and crew

Delete, Another unnecessary category the sweeps in not just people who were in front of the camera for this movie, but those who were just associated with it. The crew, as best I understand it, includes the (admittedly important) director, cinematographer, producer, but also (the likely unimportant) best boy, hairdressers, under-costumers, sandwitch-makers, and all those hundreds of names that roll past at blistering speed while you are leaving a theater. C'mon. We should not be categorizing actors by their movies/tv shows/etc. much less the behind-the-scenes folks. Carlossuarez46 01:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Sumahoy 02:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Doczilla 06:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Cast and crew categories for movies are infeasible. Harrison Ford could easily gain a few dozen categories for all of his movie roles. Dr. Submillimeter 09:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i/ION-related categories

Category:i television network to Category:ION Television network
Category:i network affiliates to Category:ION Television affiliates
Rename: The i television network changed its name to ION Television today, and the associated categories should change with it WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Space visionaries

Delete - The term "space visionary" is ill-defined. It is not even clear as to who should be included in this category. Maybe it is for people who have thought about space colonization? Maybe it is for people who first thought about launching rockets into space? Who knows? It should be deleted. Dr. Submillimeter 00:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, and because it's impossibly POV. Nearly every sci-fi writer/actor/movie producer/cinematographer may fit this category; nearly every politician from the space-faring nations (or the future ones) who have articulated ideas, voted for or against money for projects, etc. related to "space" also fit. Only an editor's POV defines who's in and who's out. This category should be "out". Carlossuarez46 01:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Deleteper above users. Sumahoy 02:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Doczilla 06:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above reasons, before I put Gene Roddenberry in it... Fayenatic london 14:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 :'''[[:Category:People from Dallas]]''' to [[:Category:People from Dallas, Texas]]
 :'''[[:Category:Sports in Dallas]]''' to [[:Category:Sports in Dallas, Texas]]
-*'''Rename''', Consistency with other Dallas, Texas categories. --[[User:Vossanova|Vossanova]] <sup>[[User talk:Vossanova|o&lt;]]</sup> 19:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)}}}
+*'''Rename''', Consistency with other Dallas, Texas categories. --[[User:Vossanova|Vossanova]] <sup>[[User talk:Vossanova|o&lt;]]</sup> 19:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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