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If you've been frequenting the RecentChanges page, you might already expect that I am a Wikipediholic -- yep, I admit it (score = 82).
Problem now is, sleeping has switched from a full (i.e. normal) to part time occupation.... oh well - you only live once, there's plenty of time to rest later...

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Meow - princess Mougie proclaimeth from the nerve centre of her empire Template:Add

Yosemite Valley

Hi, do you happen to have the original copy of Image:Yosemite Valley from Tunnel View in Yosemite NP.JPG? I feel it might do well at FPC, but its too small and has grain and JPEG artifacts right now. Thanks - Jack (talk) 15:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Sadly, that is the highest resolution I have. --mav

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Some info

Mav, I have a new email, you can write to me from my user page which I suggest you read and follow the link at the top of my talk page; any private comments you would like to share with me would be appreciated. Thank you. Alex756 07:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC) Thanks for your comments; btw some people seem to think there never were "members" of Wikipedia. Do you know where that idea came from? It does not make much sense to me, but it seems that it is being repeated now that there really are no members. Alex756 19:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Algerita in Carlsbad Caverns National Park-1.JPG

Hi Daniel, you requested the deletion of this picture from Commons. May I know why? This is just a routine check. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:39, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt answer. I unlinked and deleted the picture. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 23:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

favor

Could you consider making a comment at the talk:Race and intelligence page? If you go now, you will see at the top my proposing to mediate a conflict, followed by some discussion by participants in the conflict, followed by a Request for Comment, followed by more discussion by participants in the conflict. It should take you 20 minutes or so to read over it, and I think it would mean a lot if you then left whatever comment you have under the RfC space. The portions I wrote (A second attempt to move ahead, and RfC) are needless to say my own take on the conflict. But if you want the basic empirical data on the conflict these two sections say it all: [1] and [2] Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 12:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

Hi maveric149,

I'm pretty new at editing and not only using wikipedia.

I searched for gams. What I really wanted was GAMS, but I didn't know that wikipedia is case sensitive. So I added a "See Also" at gams which links to the possibilities of GAMS. Why did you remove it?

Actually, when you type GAMS, you first get at site the gives you three possibilties: GAMS (Software), GAMS (Guide) and Gams (city). but if you type gams, you directly get to the city without a choice.

Instead of me adding "See also" to gams, could you add the "choice site" in between? I don't know how to do that

Thanks Jan

That wasn't me. That was User:Docu. --mav

You're right. Sorry —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.133.149.165 (talk) 16:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Moving Yosemite

Hi Mav. Replied on the review. Marskell 18:39, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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POTD notification

POTD

Hi Daniel,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Zabriskie Point-Panarama-edit2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 17, 2007. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2007-02-17. howcheng {chat} 03:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

US Disambiguator

Do you have any opinion on the recent change to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (acronyms)? I didn't see any recent discussion preceding the change, so I'm puzzled. -- Cjensen 01:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Your image (Image:Maveric149.jpg)

Hi Maveric149, just to let you know we can't use fair use image in userpage (as per WP:FU), as you did.It's also replaceable image.Therefore we can't use it. I hope you already know that.Change the license or else it might get deleted. Regards --NAHID 08:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Changed. --mav

User:Mougie149

Mougie's pic is quite interesting. Is that Your another account (sockpuppet) from the same IP or does it belong with User:DakKat149. I mean did you create that acn from same IP / another IP? :)--NAHID 08:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I created the Mougie account as an obvious lark. :) The DakKat one is legit, but not used by my parnter since he created it. --mav

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Grinding stone image

Hello - I was going to do some editing over on the metate and grinding slab pages, and saw that you had upload an image of a grinding stone (on right) - One quick question - can you tell me where the shot was taken (if you are, in fact, the person who uploaded the image)? I wanted to add some contextual info to the caption and article text, but I have no idea where the stone was located. Thanks in advance! -- Oaxaca dan 18:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Much obliged, mav. That should be good enough for now. -- Oaxaca dan 18:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

World Heritage template

Hi! I created a template for World Heritage Sites: {{Infobox World Heritage Site}}. Since many of the protected areas are also recognized as World Heritage Sites, I thought that it will be appropriate to forward this template here, and hopefully, for the community to help improve the template. Someone mentioned that the footnotes are unclear (i.e. why the need to emphasize "official" there). It's because the official name (or the name as inscribed on the List) is different from what we usually know. And the Region also has footnote to tackle specifically the classification of those regions which may fall ambiguously between two continents (e.g. those in Russia, Turkey, Cyprus, etc.). In addition, I think that the info provided in the template is much like a jargon for most readers since it box is more of use for internal references in the World Heritage program. I hope that the community will help improve the template and make it more relevant to the readers of wikipedia in general. Thanks. Joey80 13:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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I did a lot of updating on the article lately, mainly so the article would continue to be a featured one since there have been some criteria alterations since it was originally promoted to FA level in 2004, due in no small part to your excellent work.--MONGO 04:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

new userbox--what do you think?

A discus

This user is a member of WikiProject Elements.

Abridged 18:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks neat. :) --mav

Delighted to hear from you

It must be because I was thinking about you. As it happens, I was in Valdosta relatively recently after many years away.

First off, let me recommend that you head south of town to Farmer Brown's Market and buy yourself some genuine south Georgia cane syrup. Then, help yourself to a bunch of boiled peanuts. Oh man, I wish.

I see from your pics that you found the courthouse and my favorite store, Southern Salvage, which closed forever the day I got back to town (which I missed).

My number one suggestion of a photo spot is the Grand Bay Wildlife Management Area, a southern swamp with boardwalk so you can get out into it. Here are some links:

• Text on Grand Bay
• Some guy's pictures of Grand Bay in late spring
• My brother's Grand Bay pics from early spring, which I think are better pics, but the other guy had a better season.

Near Grand Bay, there is a wonderful little nature museum, operated mainly for scheduled classes by school children, but well worth the visit if you can find it open. Can't temember the name, but I'll see if I can come up with it. (BTW, I see the Grand Bay article is just a stub. I guess I should add something.)

Finally,

• My brother's Valdosta pics including the courthouse and Southern Salvage, as well as some other stuff, including the "antebellum" (actually postbellum) Southern Mansion called "The Crescent".

Two bonuses:

• If you are interested, I could arrange an introduction in Valdosta to my cousin's husband, an avid birdwatcher, and, get this, retired state highway engineer, next time you are there.
• If you can make the time to get down to Tallahassee, you absolutely should not miss another plunge into the North American tropics, Wakulla Springs.

Best regards, Ortolan88 19:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Tom Parmenter

Wow - thanks for the pointers! I will keep all that in mind next time I visit. --mav

Advice

question -- I guess any new articles that refer to people or companies raise a red flag with the editors.

I tried adding an article about a company which created the first software based PBX, but immediately got a spam warning put on it. I have spent a couple of hours improving the article and adding references (to demonstrate notability), however was hoping you could give advice as well.

In case the consensus is that the company is truly not notable, I have no offense taken - I am not related to this company in any way. However, I am a professional in the field which uses their product, and I can see the value of including information about the product (PBX) and the technology and the field of expertise, as there are many certified engineers out there in the market place that I am sure use Wikipedia.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Jeromewiley 23:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Valdosta Baptist Church.JPG

Being a Valdosta native, I would like to point out that the church in the linked image is called the First Baptist Church, not Valdosta Baptist Church. Thanks. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 18:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hm. I guess I should have read the plaque more carefully. :) --mav

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Providing citations for Klinefelter's syndrome

Hey there, I notice that in your initial stub for Klinefelter's syndrome, you asserted "In mammals with more than one X chromosome, the genes on all but one X chromosome are barred from being expressed. This happens in XXY males as well as XX females. A few genes, however, have corresponding genes on the Y chromosome and are not barred. These triploid genes in XXY males may be responsible for the symptoms of Kleinfelter's syndrome." I desperately need a citation for this. All the articles I've so far been able to find on Klinefelter's and X-Inactivation (including journal articles) seem instead to explain the situation by "skewed" or "incomplete" X-Inactivation. In other words, the Y doesn't enter into it.

If you can provide a source, I'd love it. If not, I'll go ahead and replace the explanation with the skewed/incomplete one I can find citations for.

Please let me know what you think/find.

Thanks, --MalcolmGin 12:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Titanium

Great work on that article. I looked through the edit history and the FAR after reading it and determined that you should be singled out for praise, so congrats awesome editor. Aaron Bowen 21:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :) --mav

Getting closure on the (U.S.) vs (US) disambiguation debate

Hi, mav.. Do you still care about this? I'm trying to get closure on what should be the disambiguator. I've personally given up: too many people keep changing the disambiguators to "(U.S.)" flavor. If you want to try to reach closure, please add to the debate at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (abbrevations). Thanks! hike395

Your editing the In the News template while being involved in the Virgina Tech naming dispute.

Maveric149, it is completely inappropriate for admin editors involved in a naming dispute to change the ITN template to favor their contested article title, citing "consistency with article title" as the rationale for change. [3] I call on you to cease editing the ITN template for the duration of your involvement in the Virgina Tech naming dispute. Italiavivi 22:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Stop spamming. I can read what you said on the relevant talk page. -- mav

This isn't spam, it's User_talk page notification. It's called "courtesy." Italiavivi 23:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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Small question about your photo of Chevelle

Hi. I noticed you'd taken a photo of Chevelle at a concert, and this image looks ideal for using in their infobox, as the current one is up for speedy deletion. Anyway, I just had a small question - do you happen to know who the semi-psychotic looking guy (who's staring at the camera) in the middle of the photo is? =) I'm just wondering, as he doesn't appear to actually be on the stage itself. Cheers, -Panser Born- (talk) 23:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea and was tempted to edit him out of the photo. Creepy ain't he? --mav

Very. Ah well, I'll see if I can clone him out of there when I get a spare moment. Thanks anyway. -Panser Born- (talk) 07:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello from the Foundaiton

Mav, could you send me an email? this is Sandy from the Wikimedia Foundation. Florence said I should get in contact with you...its regarding t-shirts, and possible partnerships....My email is sordonez@wikimedia.org. Best :)

FP delisting nomination

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Periodic Elements

Hi Maverick149, I've started to re-make the periodic table images in SVG format. Here some samples: User:Atanamir/Periodic. Do you have any comments / suggestions? Thanks! atanamir 09:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank You All

As you all know, some hacker cracked my password and I have been stripped of my admin powers. I can understand an admin. being blocked, but stripped of his powers without a fair hearing or consensus, I can't. I have stated that I changed my password and would like my powers back, however the chastizing going on in [[4]] has sadden me. It doesn't matter how many articles you have written, contributions you have made or how many years you have dedicated to making this project a credible one. A hacker, it seems has the power of making people consider you an untrustful person and turning some people in the community against you.

I have never abused of my powers and I have used Wikipedia as a medium to educate others. Yes, I have no regrets about having made so many contributions to the Pedia. I exhort all of my friends here to make sure that their passwords are strong ones so that you will not have to go through what I am going through.

I did promise some of my friends a couple of articles and as a good Marine I will keep my promise. To my friends here, Thank you for your friendship. Tony the Marine 00:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Newberry Caldera and Newberry Volcano

Hi Maveric149, I've proposed merging these two articles and noticed that you had created both of them way back on 10 Dec 2003. We'd appreciate your comments. Please see the discussion at Talk:Newberry Caldera. Thanks. --Seattle Skier (talk) 09:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Article on Matrixism: an Entheogenic Religion

There is an article on a entheogenic new religious movement called Matrixism being created at User:Xoloz/Matrixism. There are numerous sources for this article yet it has because contentious because it deals with the subject of entheogens. Thought you might like to look at it and perhaps contribute. 206.124.144.3 05:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Smile!

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Oil shale

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Belated thanks

Hey, there. Thanks for the warm welcome you gave me when I started editing, in a time when Wikipedia was still a quiet little encyclopedia. Better late than never! --Atlan (talk) 18:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

NP :) --mav

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Re:collaboration of the week/month?

your comments- Anybody here interested in starting a collaboration of the week or even month? Would be a good way to get some A level and even GA and FA geology articles. We should focus our efforts on Top and High importance articles that need help. --mav 05:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

in reply- i think thats a great idea. Sushant gupta (talk · contribs) 06:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Confirm Permission on OTRS System

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Would you like to Participate?

Hi Maverick,

I'm an Australian Research Student who is researching Wikipedia for my thesis. As part of this I'm interviewing many Wikipedians about their experiences and views-and I'd love to interview you if you're interested.

I notice that you wrote the original pages for the 'Resolving Disputes'policy and that you've been an active member since 2001. So I'm sure you'd have a lot of insights and experiences that would be very interesting!

All the research has been approved by the uni's ethics committee, and of course you can remain anonymous.

If you're interested please let me know on either my talk page or by email, and I can give you the full details.

Hope to hear from you, tamsin 02:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Texas A&M

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Geology of the Lassen volcanic area

I just don't have time right now. If you removed all the Mesozoic stuff it might simply be better. I will look at what you have. This article is really problematic, though. The geology of California is extraordinarily complex, as you know if you did your undergrad in California. There are ways around this problem which can lead to adequate to even very good articles on California geology for Wikipedia. However, compared to how studied the geology of the state is versus how many California geology articles there are compared to other areas, one might wonder why. The reason is it is so complex. Have you looked at Cordilleran Section (AGS) articles on Lassen? Are there any? Their yearly field trip guidebooks would be at an appropriate level for someone with some background in geology, without being so technical as to be useless for a Wikipedia article. KP Botany 03:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I assume you mean 'Associated Geology Students' with 'AGS'. The uni I went to did not have an AGS and I can't find a central website for it (just webpages for various geology clubs at specific unis). I'm also uncertain if such a field guide would be usable in Wikipedia per WP:CITE requirements for references. I'm already aware of the general order of geologic events in western North America, so I don't need a primer (if that is what you are implying). I just missed a distinction that is rarely made clear in texts aimed at a general readership (as this article is). I think that issue is fixed now. -- mav

I meant GSA Cordilleran Section field trip guidebooks, sorry for saing AGS, as I'm doing some AGU stuff. If you have a background in geology you should have clarified this up without my having to point it out during an FAC, so stop making nasty comments to me, and get the articles properly together before you put them up for FA. This is a major distinction, the composition of the basement versus the orogeny. I'll look at it this weekend. KP Botany 14:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Where am I making nasty comments? The basement vs orogeny issue has been fixed - and yet you put the factual accuracy tag back on the article. Why? --mav 20:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

"Oh, and please stop being so dramatic."[5] Discussing the editor is a nasty comment, because it's personal--you know nothing about me and my level of drama. Discuss the issue, not the editor. KP Botany 19:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

PS, Love your cat. KP Botany 19:21, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Then I apologize. However, in my defense, you also discussed the editor when you called my knowledge of geology into question. A more productive approach would have been to simply state what needed to be improved in the article. --mav

The problem is I tried to point out just how bad the issue with the article was and you came back defending the article. I initially was straight-forward about the introduction because in spite of the almost exclusively layman-level references it appeared the article had been written by someone with a technical background in geology. But picked at my words without addressing the content, and the major issue remains the content of the introduction--still. You left me rather surprised, because I assumed I had made a faulty assumption, namely that the article had been written by someone with a background in geology, and wrongly addressed the editors with this assumption--so I had to say something, anything, that made it clear just how poorly elaborated the underlying rocks were, and how poorly developed in light of the geology, the introduction was. I do apologize for the way I said it, but I think, mav, if you look back at my initial comment, I gave you very specific geologic issues that you could have addressed, and you chose not to, leaving me without a clue what was going on. I'm fine with working with you, but the geology of the Lassen area is rather complex, and isn't my area (strata, give me strata or nothing), and I am preparing for a show. Let's try to think of a more reasonable starting point, time wise. KP Botany 05:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)