Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/ST47 5

ST47

Voice your opinion (talk page) (5/7/0); Scheduled to end 12:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

ST47 (talk · contribs) - I'm proud and pleased to present my nomination of ST47 for adminship. ST47 may be familiar to some of you from his bot work, from Wikipedia:Bot requests to the Bot Approval Group. ST47 is a friendly, civil editor whose interactions with me have been entirely pleasant: I'm continuously impressed by his work ethic, and his dedication to the project. It should be plain to see that having the administrator tools would be a great boon to his work with the bots, and to his work with identifying vandals. I'm convinced that he would be an excellent choice as a Wikipedia administrator.⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 19:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is not actually ST47's 5th RFA. His 3rd nom was declined, throwing off the number scheme.

Co-nomination from Sean William: I first ran into ST47 at WP:RFCU, where he has recently begun clerking. ST47 has been doing an excellent job both there and elsewhere, especially the bot approvals group, where he is the only non-administrator. I was quite astonished to learn that ST47 was not an administrator; He has done quite a lot of work relating to the inner processes of Wikipedia, and has an excellent work ethic. Swatjester has said everything that I would like to say already, so I say this: ST47 would be a great asset to Wikipedia if given the tools. Sean William @ 20:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Co-nomination from TheFearow: I met ST47 at WP:BRFA when I was first starting out in the bot world. Since then, I have run into him many many times, especially requesting things that could be done as an administrator. With over 130 contributions to AIV, and a huge amount of contributions to many other maintenance pages, i'm certain promoting him can do nothing but good to the community. I was incredibly surprised several days ago when I discovered he was not an administrator, and I don't get that much. Finally, I would 100% support ST47 in any situation - he's a civil, stable, and valuable contributor. This is the sort of editor that adminship iwas intended for. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 09:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Thank you, I accept the nomination. --ST47Talk 12:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Candidate's statement:

Good evening, ladies, gentlemen, and aliens of all ages! The nominators have said almost everything, but I'd like to add a few points. I made my first edit around August 2006. In Wikipedia, I make contributions in a variety of categories, including to bots, where I run several, wrote more, and am a member of the approvals group, and to checkuser, where I am a clerk. I'm active on IRC, however, of course, any binding discussion must take place on-wiki. In my time here, I've done about everything, including speedy tagging, recent changes patrol, and spam patrolling. With regards to bots, I run User:STBot, a category changing bot, User:BAGBot, a bot request reporting bot, User:AccReqBot, a account requests archiving bot, and User:STBotD, an interwiki bot. We've made over 100,000 edits. I've also written User:EBot and User:EBot2, archiving bots for abuse reports and suspected sock puppets. I've never been blocked, never received any vandalism warnings, and I have no userboxes on my userpage. Recently, I've been asked to RfA by several users, I've had 3 previous RfAs, and one declined nomination (linked below), and 2 editor reviews (1|2).

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. You may wish to answer the following optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: The most important thing I would do is be available. I can watch Administrator Intervention against Vandalism and the Admin's Noticeboard. I can also watch for users using the "!admin" flag on IRC. I have email enabled, so I can be contacted that way, and I have a system at User:ST47/Now that will allow anyone to contact me without me even turning on the computer's monitor. As for other stuff, I can augment my duties at Requests for Checkuser by blocking sockpuppets where appropriate. I would try to keep the speedy deletion backlog down by deleting inappropriate articles and removing tags from articles which should stay.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: My best contributions to Wikipedia are my bots, as they continue improving Wikipedia and its articles while I am away. I consider the most important of the bots I've written to be User:BAGBot and its IRC companion, as it both makes an on-wiki report and informs me and other users of every new edit to a BRFA immediately. I've written temporary bots, such as one to update Wikipedia:WikiProject Kentucky/Watchall while the primary bot is inactive, and another to help User:White Cat update his user talk archives. My most active bot is User:STBot, who recently did some WikiProject tagging, but also is approved for replacing categories.

One of my favorite things to do with Wikipedia is to sit down with a cup of tea (Earl Grey, if you must know) and write a quick bot that gathers information and makes a report. Not only is it helpful to those who request it, doing this gives me experience with new things and gives me code I can reuse later.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Not really. There are a few users who have been trolling me on IRC, but that isn't an editing conflict, and on-wiki, I avoid needless conflict altogether, instead trying to resolve problems through reasonable means. As an example, a while ago someone disagreed with a BRFA I closed, and asked for a second opinion. Instead of saying that my decision was final, I asked another BAG member to review it. As an admin I will get into conflicts over decisions and actions I make, but I will make every effort to see the other side's point of view, understand his opinion, and either reverse my decision, explain why I think my decision is right and refer him to a noticeboard where he can get a third opinion, or ask for a third opinion myself.

4. Question from Heimstern: Would you comment on what has changed since your last RfA and why this is a better time for the community to grant you sysophood?

A: Of course I would comment! Since my last RfA, I've become more involved in the Bot Approvals Group and Checkuser clerking, both areas where sysophood could be helpful. One person mentioned that I "might be a little too fast with the delete button" - I feel that now, perhaps through being on op on IRC, I'm better able to judge when action needs to be taken and when discussion can solve a problem. I also had a problem with civility then, I feel that I'm more able to act in a mature way on Wikipedia. All in all, I've started doing several things what would allow me to be more of a mature user.

5. Question from Trusilver: Following up the previous question: During your last RfA, there were specific complaints concerning incivility. What are your views of your behavior during your last RfA? Looking back five months, what would you have changed about your previous RfA?

General comments

• See ST47's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

RfAs for this user:

• Requests for adminship/ST47
• Requests for adminship/ST472
• Requests for adminship/ST47 2
• Requests for adminship/ST47 3
• Requests for adminship/ST47 4
• Requests for adminship/ST47 5

• Links for ST47: ST47 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

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Please keep criticism constructive and polite. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/ST47 before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Support per Pedro below. If the civility issues have been resolved, then that's good enough for me. This is an RFA, not editor review and we're not debating whether ST47 should be editor of the week. The question is whether we trust him with the tools, not whether he is a prolific writer. --BigΔT 13:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
2. Support as co-nom. Sean William @ 13:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
3. I thought you didn't want to be an admin! I say give him the mop, as in my opinion it's long overdue! :) -- Stwalkerster talk 14:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
4. Support I've seen examples of this user's good judgment – so I don't believe there is a concern there. I also don't see any more civility problems and think that they will handle conflicts reasonably. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia but that does not mean people can't help in other ways. Best of luck. GDonato (talk) 14:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
5. Mammoth Support - as per BigDT and GDonato. I haven't seen a single civility issue regarding ST47 for a very long time and his widespread contributions to wikipedia projects especially his bots and Requests for checkuser is very enticing. Since its nearly 5 months after his last RfA..I believe its about time he was given the mop...--Cometstyles 15:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
6. Support - Good editor, and I think after 6 RFA's, it's time to give him the mop! Politics rule 15:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
7. Support. As far as I can discern the issues in the last RfA have been addressed and the user continues to make valuable contributions and seems to understand policy well. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 15:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

1. While I acknowledge that your last RFA was in February, your actions during it are a big turn-off here for me, especially your uncivil snide replies. I therefore beg to differ from Swatjester when he says you're "civil". Furthermore, I am one of those who wishes to see admins write articles. In your last RFA you flat out said "don't write, can't write, won't write". Looking at your contribs I assume you still stick to this. Well, WP:ENC. I hope you can prove me wrong on both points and that I can switch to support. But for now it has to be oppose. – Chacor 12:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

   Addendum: Now come to think of it, you're helping out on unblock-en-l too. Since you seem to have a need for the tools and the only real worry is conduct, make that a weak oppose. – Chacor 12:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

2. Weak Oppose. A review of your last two thousand or so contribs (and yes, I have made more than a cursory review) seems to have addressed the civility issues highlighted in your last but one RfA (and yes I have reviewewd them). Of course you still haven't written anything, but adminship is not about that, though I bet it gets bought up. What adminiship is is about trusting people to use the tools correctly. My oppose is therefore based on your answer to Q3 in regards to conflict I avoid that sort of stuff altogether - as an admin you won't be able to "avoid that stuff altogether" unless you don't use the tools, which is kind of the point of being an admin (i.e. not a trophy). Sorry, but making sure you will avoid conflict at all costs is not a realistic position for an admin. I know you stated what you would do in the event of conflict but I just can't see that being realistic either (I'll reverse my decision !?!?) doesn't sit to well. Pedro |  Chat  12:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

   In regards to the Q3 point, I've clarified that: I do understand that I will have opposition to my actions, and I think what I said towards the end, clarifying how I would respond to that: if someone brings up a point that shows me that I screwed up, of course I will reverse my action. I certainly don't intend to ignore conflicts, I'm just not going to seek it out. If I do become an admin, I will make every effort to ensure that I understand why people oppose my actions and to make the right choice there, I meant to say that I will not cause a conflict - I've reworded the answer. --ST47Talk 12:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

   [Edit conflict] To only quote the bit "reverse my decision" is bringing his answer rather out-of-context. There is a qualifier, "I will make every effort to see the other side's point of view, understand his opinion". Also, reversing the decision is not the only possibility ST47 gave. – Chacor 12:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

   Sorry Chacor, I was not disregarding the qualifiers, I was reflecting the weight that I gave to the first part of the initial answer given by the candidate. I should have made that clear. My oppose is based on the "avoid that stuff altogether" bit. I do respect the answer given by ST47 (above) and his rewording of the answers. I will reflect further but prefer not to strike my comments or move position at this time.Pedro |  Chat  13:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

3. Oppose, the candidate adequately proved in not only the last RfA but also the one preceding that there are issues regarding the candidate's judgment. Even if civility concerns have been addressed, and I'm willing to assume that they have been, I remain concerned with the candidate's judgment. Lack of article writing is a much more minor, but also relevant, concern. · jersyko talk 13:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
4. Issues from prior failed RfAs have not been resolved. -- Y not? 14:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
5. Oppose After the candidate's unfortunate outbursts in the prior RfA, he would need to address all concerns before returning here. I'm uncertain regarding the civil question, but it is clear the candidate hasn't remedying article-writing concerns. I'm not normally a stickler on that point; but, in a case where bad judgment was visibly demonstrated at the last RfA, I expect evidence of true reform. Xoloz 15:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
6. Oppose per Q3. I'm sorry, but highly active admins armed with bots that "avoid conflict" are a recipe for disaster. Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 15:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
7. Strong Oppose (edit conflict)- Per answer to No.3 "Not really" I find that hard to believe if you have been around since August 2006 and have 10,000 edits. Also lack of encyclopaedic contributions, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia first and foremost.--Bryson 15:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

   If it's not possible for someone to be here for a year and not have stress as a result, then we have some serious issues. --BigΔT 15:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral. I took an hour or so to scan through his last few thousand edits, and I really do not see any of the behaviors that he was declined for in the last RFA. In fact, as far as civility goes, in the last month this editor has been exemplary. I am mostly a recent changes patroller and copyeditor myself, so I understand that it's possible to be committed to the project without contributing a lot of content. But at the same time I think that for the experience if nothing else, it's important for an admin to have at least a little experience contributing to Wiki proper. Trusilver 15:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)