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Roger Clemens signed as a free agent with the Blue Jays, not the Yankees. He was traded to the Yankees for David Wells, Graeme Lloyd, and Homer Bush. |
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There is a "citation needed" note after the point about fans throwing dollar bills at him upon his return to Fenway after signing with the Yanks. For what it's worth, I was at the game and can definitively verify that this hilarious incident did indeed occur. Not sure if that's enough of a citation, but there you go. |
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Johnny as a Royal
I understand a small budget, small market and only a couple winning seasons since 1992 has kept the K.C. Royals out the national spotlight. But this entry completely overlooks Damon's considerable body of work with during his five years with the Royals.
It would make sense that this portion of his career have a section devoted to it. This would be more productive than editing misleading statements about his days on the east coast.
Here is the quote in question. "It can be argued that 2004 was his most impressive year and that he showed improved patience at the plate."
As tempting as it is to create a "Myth of the Improved Johnny Damon" segment that lampoons all the supposed baseball fans who discovered Mr. Damon when he went to Boston- acknowledging his accomplishments in a Royals uniform is the correct approach.
Here is the minimum of empirical data that needs to be included to change this Wikipedia page from "Damon, the Red Sox and the Yankees" to one that covers Johnny Damon the baseball player.
In 1999 Damon hit .307 with the Royals in 145 with 50 strikeouts. He also had 14 home runs and 77 R.B.I.s. So much for developing patience at the plate in 2004- he struck out 71 times that year.
Statistically his "break out" year in 2004 was no better than his 2000 campaign with the Royals. He started 159 games in 2000 versus 150 in 2004.
In 2000 he hit .327 with the Royals vs. .304 with Boston.
His slugging percentage was .495 in 2000 vs. .477 in 2004. His slugging percentage in 1999 was also .477.
He had 16 home runs and 88 RBIS in 2000- 20 and 94 in 2004 And he stole FORTY SIX bases in 2000- 25 more than he bagged in bean town. He scored 136 runs in 2000, 123 in 2004.
Obviously both years are impressive. That is the point. Ill-informed generalities about his emergence and development in Boston fly in the face of reality. Johnny Damon was born in Kansas and this only increased the expectations for the highly touted first round draft pick of the Royals. He worked his way into the majors through their system and was a solid contributer for four seasons. His 1999 & 2000 seasons are statistically comparable to his best seasons in Boston.
The majority of the statistics point to 2000 being his best year (home runs, RBIs and witnesses are on the positive ledger for 2004).
The consistency of his offensive production in 1998 and 1999 demonstrates that the improved version of Johnny Damon was rather similar to the consistent outfielder for the Royals in the late 20th century .
"His mother Yome is of Thai descent and his father Jimmy is white..." Hmmm, kind of insensitive. His mother is possibly “Asian” and his father is possibly “North American” or his mother is Oriental and his dad is Occidental, or Mongoloid and Caucasoid… but Thai and “white”? Ouch!
- Are you seriously making a good-faith case for using words like "Oriental" and "Mongoloid" over the phrase "of Thai descent"? Ben-w 07:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
The complaints about the "moneygrubbing agent" at the end of the article seem to be based on personal dislike. While the criticism may be true, an encyclopedia is not the place for those comments. —the preceding unsigned comment is by 24.71.223.140 (talk • contribs) 18:07, January 5, 2006
No references/citations
Anyone up to the task of fixing the dozens of "Citation Needed"s? Y2kcrazyjoker 19:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- I did it a while ago. Michael Greiner 20:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
The following sentence is found, verbatim, in both this article and in, "The Left-Hander's Calendar" 2007 edition on page 5-24-07: "Damon gained some notoriety for the prominent beard and long, uncut hairstyle he brought with him to spring training". Neither the calendar or this article is citing the other. This could be seen as plagiarism.
- The calendar is plagiarizing the article, as that quote has been in the article since at least August 8th, 2006. Michael Greiner 20:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
25 mph runner?
Is my math bad or does the current world record for the 100 meters come to about 22.9 mph? Here's the math: 22.9 mph = (100 meters / 9.77 sec) x (1 mile / 1609 meters) x (3600 sec / 1 hour). Though the article doesn't explicitly say Johnny Damon can run as fast as 25 mph, leaving his quote without note leaves the wrong impression.
no one understands what hell that mean, or just me.--Kingforaday1620 21:29, 22 August 20
His kids go to my school, they are in 2nd Grade, and like this article says, they live in the "Orlando Area" Also, Joey Fatone's kids go to my school, there in Kindergarten, among some other celebrities. I wish i was in second grade. - The yip
Your putting miles into meters its total differnt system of measurment.
Clemens reference
Roger Clemens signed as a free agent with the Blue Jays, not the Yankees. He was traded to the Yankees for David Wells, Graeme Lloyd, and Homer Bush.
Money-throwing
There is a "citation needed" note after the point about fans throwing dollar bills at him upon his return to Fenway after signing with the Yanks. For what it's worth, I was at the game and can definitively verify that this hilarious incident did indeed occur. Not sure if that's enough of a citation, but there you go.