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West End of NY 27A

The New York State Department of Transportation told me in a letter that the actual truncation the western terminus of New York State Route 27A in Massapequa was sometime in 1958. ---- DanTD 18:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm only going on what sources I have available. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 18:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Orange County Routes

Hey Twinkees, I'm interested in starting up pages for these routes. Wondering if you can help make shields or hook me up with a template to make the Orange County shields, in svg format. Image:OrangeCR72EasternBegin.jpg will show you what the shields look like in Orange County if you're unfamiliar. No rush, just started compiling some info on a few today.

Also made an adjustment to NY 306 (History). Hope that's worded better for wiki.

Thanks, and have a good weekend! --Airtuna08 00:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Uh, "Twinkees"? If you want to abbreviate my username, use "TMF" instead. That is the reason I use the abbrevation in my sig in the first place. And that's putting aside the fact that I'm a Mets fan before a Twins fan.

County routes are not automatically notable per WP:USRD/NT. If you believe every county route in every county in New York should have an article, as it appears you do, you may want to comment there.

No template currently exists for Orange CR shields, and I would have to be convinced that a CR deserves an article before I make a shield for it. Not trying to come off as cold-hearted, but the crap going on at WT:USRD is disheartening. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 02:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Then shouldn't it be MetsTwinsFan, haha? Called ya Twinkees cause its always been a nickname I've heard and used referring to them. But I will call you TMF, I was only messing with you as I'm a diehard MLB fan myself. The '08 in my username refers to the 1908 Chicago Cubs. Sad, isn't it?

But on to my serious part here, I'm doing this more as a hobby. I'm not a computer programmer, but because of the subject matter (roads/maps) I've wanted to learn some and help. I didn't even know there was a whole wikiproject committee when I started writing about the Rockland Routes. Had I known I wouldn't have wasted my time. Cause I get slapped with whatever I do, and treated like a vandal when all I'm doing is adding credible info I've gathered. I think were all trying to do the same thing here, but obviously everyone wants their own touch on these pages.

I joined the project because I had done all that work and thought I could be of help. That's why I asked if I could help you with maps or even making shields. I've made them before but I was shot down cause they didn't meet standards of which I wasn't aware. That's why I asked you for help this time. That's all. You don't want pages for OC, I won't make them. Saves me alot of time. There's no way I can get every county route a page. I thought that's what you guys wanted. So, again, I figured I could help.

But as far as the whole politics, I'm not ready to dive into it. Frankly, I'm befuzzled as to why there are so many pissy people on this site. Not saying you, but someone trying to have some fun doing something is shot down more often than not. When in reality, wikipedia needs all the people they can get to help. I understand there has to be some semblance of order around here, but it is ridiculous. If you don't want to do the OC shield I understand. But I don't get why we all go nuts with each other when were all roadbuffs and are just trying to do the same thing. How many of these road pages actually get read anyway?

--Airtuna08 04:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Regarding PROD nominations as debates

PROD nominations are indeed debates, albeit limited ones waged on the talk-page with an outcome of leaving the PROD-nomination in place or removing it. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I've discussed this with other users, and they have the same opinion as myself. If someone disagrees with a PROD, they can remove it, ending the process, but if someone disagrees with an AFD or TFD, the debate continues. The "talk page discussion" you speak of rarely occurs from what I've seen as 9 times out of 10, a PROD has either been removed or retained, with no discussion either way. The reason other (xFD) debates are listed is that XFDs require the opinions of multiple users. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 20:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup of Template:Infobox road/doc

I would think that having it organized and making it easier to read would be "cleanup". Please tell me why reverting whitespace on a template is necessary, though. It's ignored anyways by rendering, and it does make it easier on the eyes for those editing. I don't see why you couldn't have just posted on my talk page. Besides, other infobox documentation has been started/edited this way, and I don't see them reverted (like Template:Infobox animanga for example). If by any chance there was a parameter actually affected by including whitespace, then that specific parameter could've just had its whitespace removed. I don't see why, for example, having

|length_mi  = 20
|cities     = [[Benicia, California|Benicia]]

over

|length_mi=20
|cities=[[Benicia, California|Benicia]]

would be such a change to revert over. --Geopgeop 06:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, I also don't see the point of changing it to have spaces in the first place. To me, having spaces is distracting and it adds unnecessary bytes to the size of each article. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 06:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, first, a page showing whitespace is ignored: Help:Template#Template mechanism. Second, and after reading Wikipedia:Article size, yes adding whitespace does add bytes, but they are probably not going to add up to multiple kilobytes, if not at most one. Imagine if Wikipedia kept the old CamelCase format for article names just because they saved a byte or two. And, well, just to note, (no disrespect intended) your signature does not exactly save bytes either, what with the font tags and all.

So, all in all, can I change it back, please? --Geopgeop 06:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

You'd need to discuss that on the template talk. In the 16 months that the template's been in heavy use, no one has attempted to add unnecessary spacing, nor have they shown a desire to from what I've seen. As for your point that spaces are ignored...yes, you are correct, but I wasn't arguing that point. They're still distracting to me. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 20:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

NY 111 & Suffolk CR 17

Suffolk County Department of Public Works told me in a letter years ago that the switch between NY 111 & Suffolk County Road 17 was made on September 13, 1966, and they have a PDF file of their routes that proves it too. I wish I knew the link. ---- DanTD 18:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...maybe I can search for it (the PDF). Thanks for the heads up. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 20:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)