Talk:Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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Removed "where he is stranded on a tiny planet", because that misleading information. He is stranded in the desert of Sahara, where he meets the Little Prince who's been on Earth a whole year.
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"It seems he was also an aircraft designer." I don't think you're right. Of course he was interrested by aircraft design. Where does the quote comme from ? Ericd

I got this quote from: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s07.html. Ppareit

It's a fair chance he was interested in aircraft design, I don't think he was a designer himself though. Above all he was a pilot. This was long before advanced technology was implemented into the airplanes, and Saint-Exupéry had numerous crashes, also in the Sahara desert. Sigg3.net

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I added some english quotes, but I do not have the french text as someone supplied for the other quotes. -- Ds13 06:40, 2004 Apr 23 (UTC)

Third most [widely] read?

This statement seems fishy to me: and is the third most read book only to the Holy Bible and the muslim Ku'ran. Who says so? How can anybody possibly know which is the third most [widely] read book? --????

I agree and I'm removing the passage until someone comes up with a credible source. Lisiate 21:54, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hyphen

I read, somewhere, that his name was credited as "Saint Exupéry" with no hyphen. Can someone tell me why that was? Mike H 17:45, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Besides the (at least) unintelligent remark below (this one may spare energy, but not aimed at the right target), the fact is that any legal document in France do not show any hyphen in his name. This is not an exception — other people share this peculiarity. Till now, I haven't got convincing explanations about any rules or usage about hyphenation in names in the French-speaking areas. — Ivan Korenyuk ψ Іван Коренюк 09:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

It's because you have to exert a lot of energy if you write a hypen so they don't put a hy pen on it.

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Would be helpful to add pronunciation and/or a recording to know how to say his name properly.

Suicide?

It would be nice to have some sources for these "suicide theories". Are they based on any factual evidence, or just someones opinion? It could just as easily be someone interested in gaining publicity for themselves by taking a contrarian position. It seems.. I'm not even sure this is noteworthy enough to add to the article, anyone who dies in unknown conditions could have a "suicide theory", it almost goes without saying. --Stbalbach 17:48, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Well yes suicide

Yes well the main theory of the little prince is that the most important is invisible to the eyes is the real king pin to the suicide theory. The little prince realizes he lights up the stars for his flower as he does for the pilot. However this doesn't bring peace to his lonely existence. He is still conflicted by his inability to care for the rose and his now conspicuous responsibility to her. He has already made in his mind his noble impact in loving the rose. However contention arises her life is in question by the little prince this is evident in his discourse with the pilot of how sheep left unattended will eat even flowers with thorns. The snake speaks of his ability to allow the little prince to escape his torment saint-exupéry directly alludes to death of which the little prince already has due motive. I thought this opinion to be rudementary but apparently this is not so. What other possible escape could the snake offer other than death. Perhaps he represents the narcotics dealer in society. That is a much more likely opinion don't you think? 2-1-06 ton ami Henri Ruehle (—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.110.98.99 (talk • contribs) .)

The Right Stuff

I've included a section entitled "Other literary references" to appropriately link to Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff. The quote is one of the most poignant mentions of the definition of The Right Stuff . Mark5677 09:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

The plane crash

I quote: Today it is regarded as very improbable that Saint-Exupéry was shot down by a German pilot (in spite of the bragging of a German airman who later claimed so). The German aerial combat records of July 31, 1944 do not list any shooting down in the Mediterranean that day.

Where are the sources proving these claims? Who was the pilot bragging about it? Is there a link to the aerial combat records?

uppercase in title

In #Works some titles are written using uppercases while in fr.wp in lowercases. Unfortunately I don't speak French at all but found a book in amazon.fr for fr:Terre des hommes (not Hommes). Should we fix them, or? --marsian 07:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, in French (as in Italian and Spanish) we don't capitalize words in titles as in English. Matteo 07:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Matteo. It's quite informative to me. Well... I found the descriptions: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)#Capitalization of expressions borrowed from other languages, which is pointing Wikipedia:France-related topics notice board#Titles of works of art. And now I understand why you left Le Petit Prince as it is: because it's a proper name, right? Then I wonder if L'aviateur is to be L'Aviateur (as in fr.wp) or not ... or you just forgot to change? --marsian 09:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, not really. I left Le Petit Prince because it was like that in the French version. Also for L'aviateur it does more sense with a lowercase a. I looked at the list of books of Saint-Exupéry on the amazon.fr and Le Petit Prince and it was the only one with capital letters on all the editions. Maybe it was like that on the original work? Matteo 10:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Roger that. Thanks anyway. --marsian 23:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

New York Residence

From looking through Town of Huntington documents on an unrelated matter this morning, I found that Saint-Exupery actually lived in Northport New York, not NYC (that's also where he wrote "The Little Prince". I've changed the sentence dealing with his New York location to reflect this. BigKahuna13 01:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. I suppose this would be commonly available info in any recent biography. I wonder where the NYC information came from. -- Stbalbach 15:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I just did a search in Stacy Schiff's biography for "Huntington" and only found one minor reference.[1] I think we need a source to show he lived in Huntington and not NYC. -- Stbalbach 15:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry my confusion, Northport not Huntington, the Schiff biography supports that. -- Stbalbach 15:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Saint-Exupery did not write The Little Prince while residing in Northport, New York. Saint-Exupery was staying in New York City but required a more peaceful and cooler location out on Long Island. During the fall of 1942 he rented a historic mansion known as The Bevin House which is located in Asharoken, New York, which is where he wrote The Little Prince. I created an article for The Bevin House and at the bottom of that page you'll find multiple citations to the fact that The Little Prince was written there, and to the location of the house as Asharoken, not Northport (there's even a satellite image showing the house's location). I will say that Northport is the nearest town but Saint-Exupery never resided in Northport. I hope this helps.

--Fife Club 18:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. If one of you happens to also be anonymous IP 24.46.137.107, please don't re-add Saint-Exupery back in the Northport article[2].

Thanks for clearing that up. It seemed odd that someone would stumble on it in "town documents" of unknown authority when any number of quality biographies are available. -- Stbalbach 14:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Why would you find that odd? Document wasn't of unknown authority - it was on the the letterhead of the "Northport Historical Society and Museum". I've emailed the society about the discrepancy. Curious to see what their response will be. BigKahuna13 00:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It's just that it is a primary source historical document which has not been fully analyzed by a professional historian and put in historical context. Certainly there is other evidence besides this to locate where he lived and the biographers have figured it out. -- Stbalbach 13:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I can totally understand the confusion and I had to contact elected officials who got me in contact with a local historian before I made any corrections. Although I don't live anywhere near Long Island anymore I did grow up right there in that area. Get ready to be confused:

Asharoken, New York is an isthmus which completely cut it off from the main land except through Northport, New York[3]. Asharoken has no businesses at all so anybody living out there must travel to or through Northport for anything they need to live, hence the strong connection. Asharoken doesn't have their own schools or library either, using Northport's - and hence why the Northport Public Library has a large Saint-Exupery exhibit. Making this connection even stronger, Asharoken doesn't have it's own Post Office so it share's the Northport zip code. Even when I typed "Asharoken, NY" into Google Maps I got a location pointer saying "Northport". (See this map and particularly this closeup section to see the borders of Asharoken and it's location compared to Northport.)

So it makes complete sense why Asharoken could be mistakenly considered Northport even for locals. But even though The Bevin House looks out at Northport Harbor and can probably see the town of Northport, it is technically located within the Incorporated Village of Asharoken. I was just trying to be accurate. I am very curious to know what the "Northport Historical Society and Museum" says about this. Please let us know. If they disagree I'd like to contact them myself with these facts. Thanks. --Fife Club 20:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Airport

Of note - the relatively new airport servicing the Lyon, Rhone region is named after St. Exupery. The architecture of the airport is also striking as it resembles an eagle in flight through glass and metal armatures.

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First name

The article doesn't explain why he was christened Jean-Baptiste Marie Roger de Saint-Exupéry, yet he's known as Antoine. JackofOz 00:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

He wasn't, and the article is wrong. Antoine Marie Roger de Saint-Exupery was his baptismal name, but unfortunately I can't find an authoritative source on it to make the correction and duly footnote it. Therefore I'm leaving the error and I hope someone will be able to make the correction. Cantabwarrior 02:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Infobox

Added an {{Infobox Writer}} infobox using for the most part information already contained in the article. Please modify it as may be necessary.