Talk:Wii

Archives

Requested Move to Nintendo Wii (17th-22nd May 2006 - consensus: Not Moved) Archive Index (updated daily) Archive 1 (May 2005 - July 2005) Archive 2 (July 2005 - September 2005) Archive 3 (September 2005 - December 2005) Archive 4 (December 2005 - March 2006) Archive 5 (March 2006 - April 2006) Archive 6 (April 2006) Archive 7 (Pre-E3 2006) Archive 8 (E3 2006) Archive 9 (Post E3 2006 - 20th May 2006) Archive 10 (20th May 2006 - 31 May 2006) Archive 11 (June 2006) Archive 12 (July 2006) Archive 13 (August 2006) Archive 14 (Sept 1 2006 - Sept 13 2006) Archive 15 (Sept 14 2006 - Sept 30 2006) Archive 16 (Oct 1 2006 - Oct 27 2006) Archive 17 (Oct 28 2006 - Nov 4 2006) Archive 18 (Nov 5 2006 - Nov 14 2006) Archive 19 (Nov 15 2006 - Nov 21 2006) Archive 20 (Nov 21 2006 - Dec 13 2006) Archive 21 (Nov 15 2006 - Dec 15 2006) Archive 22 (Dec 15 2006 - Dec 31 2006) Archive 23 (Dec 31 2006 - Feb 16 2007) Archive 24 (Feb 17 2007 - Apr 18 2007) Archive 25 (Apr 4 2007 - Jul 2 2007) Archive 26 (Jul 3 2007 - Sept 2 2007) Archive 27 (Sept 3 2007 - Jan 22 2008)

Frequently asked questions

These following questions have been addressed repeatedly (as documented here):

"Wii" vs. "Nintendo Wii"?

The first and most frequently asked question -- and the official trademark is just "Wii". See the Talk archives (pages 6 through 10) and the separately archived survey if you need the details.

"Wii" vs. "The Wii"?

The official trademark is not The Wii™ but Wii™. People generally call the console "the Wii" (like a common noun), while Nintendo prefers to phrase it as just "Wii" (like a name) to utilize its similarity to we (e.g. "Wii will change gaming forever"). A discussion on the subject can be found in Archive 18.

"Wee" (as in urine)?

Multiple discussions on the subject have failed to achieve a consensus for or against including a reference to urine. However, please refrain from adding any such reference to the article. If you wish to bring this topic up on the talk page, please first read past discussions on the subject found in Archive 22 and Archive 23.

Wii Remote strap problems?

Information on Wii Remote strap failures and Nintendo's replacement offer are summarized in the article. Further details are documented in the Wii Remote article. Discussion on the subject can be found in Archive 21.

Archived

Please see Talk:Wii/Archive 27. Just64helpin (talk) 03:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Constant updating of sales figures

This practice puzzles me. Why are sales figures so important to some people? I don't even consider them encyclopedic. For just about any other product on the market that has a Wikipedia entry, you don't find overzealous fanboys constantly adjusting the sales figures. Can someone explain this to me?------Asher196 (talk) 12:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Video games, unlike most retail products, get regular sales updates. The only times you get update on iPod sales info, for example, is when Apple chooses to reveal them. The only problem I see is when people take shipped numbers and think they are the sames as sales numbers. TJ Spyke 01:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Fanboys are everywhere ;-) If the figure can be referenced, then it can be added. And I don't like the quarter per quarter tables we used to have, too much unnecessary information. Besides, Nintendo fans waited 13 years for this moment, I guess they are justified ;-) -- ReyBrujo (talk) 01:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats exactly what I thought it was. Competition with other consoles and ranking them by sales figures. I just don't see the encyclopedic value of the whole practice. It's a full time job just policing the changes to sales that are done on a daily basis. It makes Wikipedia less fun for me.----Asher196 (talk) 05:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Nobody is asking you to do that ;-) And in any case, it is not harder than keeping the list of best-selling video games up to date and out of the influence of those fans ;-) -- ReyBrujo (talk) 17:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Asher196, video game sales figures are no different from album sales figures or movie box office figures. 69.203.64.174 (talk) 04:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Wording Error

"Using the Wii is often seen as more being more physically demanding than other game consoles, but a study published in the British Medical Journal found that while playing the Wii, players use significantly more energy than playing sedentary computer games."

the study published in the BMJ supports the point that the wii is physically demanding, so the word "but" doesn't belong there. (33LB (talk) 19:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC))

why not remove it then? *laughs*  Doktor  Wilhelm  22:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I already adjusted the text. Just64helpin (talk) 22:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

The Queen play Wii?

Now of course that title alone would be rather eye brow raising. Now if we can find a good refference then by all means post it but I have a slight issue with the current source. True The People is published by Trinity Mirror who are large BUT that doesn't make The People large themselves. The newspaper is very small in the UK, and only confined to sundays and apparenly recently underwent a cut and of course it seems to put emphasis on celebrity gossip. In the article thats says the Queen plays the Wii, its says a source gave it out, now let me ask you this. Would someone from the Royal House, say very obscure yet interesting news to a small Sunday celebrity gossip paper? The only other people to report it are game blogs reporting the news FROM the People. If it was true it would make sense for those like the BBC or The Guardian to report it since both of those are usually the first to get whatever happens in there to the public.

If we were to keep it we would have to change the statment to something along the lines of "and has even been reported to include" since without any secondly source, there is no way we can call a gossip paper fact, which the current statment heavily implies. I'll leave it there for now but I would like to hear some thoughts and I'm not a troll or up for edit wars so being rude or personal won't help. Stabby Joe (talk) 14:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

as far as I know The Guardian doesn't report much lighthearted thing and I don't know how to find anything on the BBC website, it just goes around in circles (plus if they have repoted it on TV, would it also apear on the site?)! "Would someone from the Royal House, say very obscure yet interesting news to a small Sunday celebrity gossip paper?" as far as I know, that's the way these things work, and then the bigger news papers copy the story but flesh it out so it looks like they are the first to report it. The argument that The People is a small newspaper and can't be used as a reference doesn't make sence, as I said, they are published by Trinnity Mirror, and as such will have codes and standards in place to stop fraudulent comments about the royal family, specially if it could easily viewed as slander (specially if the Queen only play Xbox), I think there may be laws about it (but concidering the terrible state of all UK news papers reports on the royal family, I'm sure there can't actually be any laws).

I think that the: "and has even been reported to include" makes sence though.  Doktor  Wilhelm  14:50, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, let me word it alittle better. I'm putting more emphasis on the fact its a sunday gossip paper. You're right, doesn't matter how big it is but because of the type of paper it is and the fact no one else has reported it seems pretty reasonable for one to question its nobility as a factual news story. But considering there is none so far we should however put out the news is not fact due to the questionable nature of the newspaper, so yes what I said before going in front of it.

Plus because of all those Diana conspirisies, like you said I doubt such laws are in force nowadays... And by the way what do you mean by that Xbox comment? Stabby Joe (talk) 17:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Grammatically speaking, I'm not sure how "and has even been reported to include" fits. If we're going to add that much emphasis to the questionable nature of the report, we might as well give it its own sentence. 19:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Just64helpin (talk • contribs)

I fixed that, so don't worry. BTW, it falls under "weasel words". Two One Six Five Five ^{discuss my greatness} 19:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough but what would we say then if we can't use those words? Stabby Joe (talk) 19:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"COUGH COUGH" Does anyone have any ideas? I'm not done yet. Stabby Joe (talk) 16:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Giving it its own sentence would still work, though I suppose the actual content of the sentence is up to discussion. Just64helpin (talk) 17:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Exaclly. I'm all for letting the original claim to be in the article, but currently it heavily implies it to be the whole truth and nothing but, yet its actually rather questionable. No way to prove its fact... or false. Stabby Joe (talk) 17:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I see what you're trying to here but I'm not letting it go. So far I would suggest giving it it's own sentance but only a small one. Since the last term was considered somewhat "weasel", what exaclly is "on limits"? Stabby Joe (talk) 02:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahem... Stabby Joe (talk) 22:55, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

You can check out WP:WEASEL and WP:AVOID for the guidelines. Just64helpin (talk) 23:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I do intend to edit it. Stabby Joe (talk) 01:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture of game disc

I recently uploaded a photograph I took of a Wii Optical Disc and, unlike the one currently displayed in the Wii article, this picture ACTUALLY SHOWS what a Wii disc typically looks like. (It is Image:Wiidisc001.JPG and can already be seen on the Nintendo optical discs article. I would like this picture to replace the one currently shown on the Wii page because, for all we know, that could just be any old CD-ROM turned upside-down. Benjamnjoel2 (talk) 01:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe it was flipped upside down to avoid showing the game artwork, which is copyrighted (see Wikipedia:Copyrights). Just64helpin (talk) 10:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Not only is Wiidisc001.jpg a terrible picture, it is also subject to speedy deletion because it contains copyrighted artwork.Asher196 (talk) 16:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

1UP Editor Names the Wii as the #1 disappointment of 2007

This should be included in the reception section. http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8601568&publicUserId=5379721 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.79.183 (talk) 00:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Why? TJ Spyke 00:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Because the reception section does not adequately address the poor 3rd party support and sales for the Wii, and 1up is one of the biggest gaming sites on the web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.79.183 (talk • contribs)

Poor third party sales? I can't believe there are still people that believe that BS. Of the top 100 games in December 2007, 20 of those were Wii games (Xbox 360 had 18), and only 5 of those were from Nintendo. That means 15 third party Wii games made the top 100. Developers that have actually put some effort into their games have been rewarded with good sales (except Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barboro's Treasure, which is a good game but has had poor sales). Hell, the Wii version of Guitar Hero III sold 519K copies in October. TJ Spyke 02:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

it's just one persons opinion, and not that of 1up.com, so it's hardly notable. "the poor 3rd party support and sales" is addressed by the name of Nintendo featuring prominatly on the article. But Joking aside, I really think that diffrent people like diffrent things, and it everyone that didn't like the wii was quoted, it's need it's own article.  Doktor  Wilhelm  00:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Can I see this "Top list" please TJ? Stabby Joe (talk) 02:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

memory

Can the memory card be used on a regular pc? RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 23:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

The Wii doesn't have a memory card. It does allow people to use standard SD cards and mini-SD cards to save info though, and those can of coarse be used on a regular PC (provided it has slots for accepting SD cards of coarse). TJ Spyke 09:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Price

put retail prices in--Roughrider13 (talk) 10:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wii launch#Release dates and pricing. Just64helpin (talk) 10:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Wii Sports pack-in

Pack ins do not count on game sales

specially if you wont allow Hexic HD to be listed as 17.7 million in sales.... as thats a pack in game TOO —Preceding unsigned comment added by PseudoKirby (talk • contribs) 11:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

This was discussed here, and your removal of content also removed the sales reference for Wii Play. Just64helpin (talk) 11:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Pack-in games DO count. The majority of Super Mario Bros.'s 40 million sales came from being bundled with the NES. Also, Wii Sports is sold on it's own in Japan (unlike Hexic HD). TJ Spyke 23:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Wii is Second smallest Nintendo console

I have a NES, the second version, not the big box, and it's smaller than the Wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.128.43.152 (talk) 23:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)