Talk:Krishna

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Panduranga

"Panduranga" redirects here, even though there is no mention of the term "Panduranga" anywhere in this article. What gives? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.180.71.138 (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Romance

It's already cited in the Bhagavatam (regional languages) that the gopis wanted to have Krishna as their husband. Krishna fulfilled their desire. There is nothing wrong in posting facts that are verifiable and are sourced. It is not provoking. People those who do not know can ask any Vasihnav and he/she will agree with the fact. content is here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radha2008 (talk • contribs) 07:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC) --Radha2008 (talk) 07:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for raising this issue on the talk page rather than repeated reversions. There are two problems with your edit:

• It is unsourced - see wikipedia's policies on verifiability and reliable sources as well as the citation guide to see how to provide specific references. It is not sufficient to state that one can ask any Vaishnav etc.
• Sourcing aside, your edit is undue in this article, which does not aim to provide an exhaustive account of all the stories associated with Krishna in the Mahabharata, Puranas etc.

Hope that clarifies the reasons for reverts by User:GourangaUK and me. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 07:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

(sigh) I'm afraid User:Radha2008 has chosen to edit-war rather than discuss and try to establish consensus regarding the content she wishes to include. However I don't plan to revert once more and will let other editors weigh in. Abecedare (talk) 08:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

In addition to the rule of material being verifiable, there are many other rules that would apply here. Among these are the obvious one that the additional material should not be redundant; there is already better written and placed material in the article on Krishna as God in 'monotheistic Vaishnavism'. The additional material should be of relevance, and that the article remains of a reasonable and concise length; this is a matter of judgement, and I agree with Abecedare that the Romance section it is not suitable here. The article has been stable for some time, and the new material in the 'Romance' section may be better placed in a new article. Reverting again. Imc (talk) 08:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Also note that the text being added by User:Radha2008 to this article and to Ras Lila (dance) was a copyright violation, being copied from Exotic India website. Abecedare (talk) 20:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Wikiproject talk page

Hello Govinda Ramanuja dasa and GourangaUK. I have added this discussion to the Vaishnavism Wikiproject talk page at, Vaishnavism's relation to Vedic religion. Please feel free to add any comments. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 16:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thelemic/Crowley section on the Krishna article

I wanted to ask who put the Alester Crowley section on the Krishna article? This section is just incoherent, philosophical bumbo-jumbo babble!!! I lived in austin texas and live in L.A. (these two places had the largest population of Crowley followers in america)..I have had almost 15 years of experience with these Thelemites! First off, Yes, they might mention Krisna...but, their practices, their philosophy are absolutely Adharmic and Avedic!! They have taken a mixture of Black tantra, Crowleys speculations on various spiritual traditions and made some kind of tama guna, asuric, speculative, concocted, IMMORAL form of so-called "Spiritual" practices that is definetly against the Vedic religion. He was a drug user and questionable sexual practices that involved so-called sexual "magical" ceremonies. Every one who is a practioner of the Vedas should be appalled by the disgusting practises and immorality of these "Thelemites". Their beliefs are absolutely against the Vedas. Some followers, I know for a fact, perform magic rites with sexual body fluids and try to commune with spirits and etc...not too Vedic! And, there is a qoute in our beautiful Sri Krishna article from their so-called "Aeon of horus" savior - Crowley?! Can we please take this out immediately. Govinda Ramanuja dasa USA (talk) 01:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

See the comments on the WP:Hinduism Vaishnavism Workgroup talk page. --Shruti14 ^{t c s} 13:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

(indent restart) I've revised the recent deletion of the Thelema section. While I've seen the discussion in the Vaishnava article, it should be discussed here. The comments above by Zeuspitar suggest that this article should be about 'our beautiful Sri Krishna'. That may be appropriate for a website of a Vaishnava religion, but not for a generic English language article on Krishna. Imc (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Death of Krishna?

I understand that the person who put the information stating that Krishna "departed" instead of "died" is a suspected sockpuppet of of another user, and so those edits were reverted with that in mind. However, the fact certainly remains that Hindus believe that as a "full" avatar of Vishnu, Krishna did NOT die, but rather departed from this earth to return to Vaikunta. For this reason, I am changing the text back. If anyone disagrees, please let me know why. Thanks. --Shruti14 ^{t c s} 13:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I have made the edits, and also corrected minor grammar and style problems. --Shruti14 ^{t c s} 13:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)