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Ancient Egypt

Thank you very much for your contributions relating to Ancient Egypt articles. They are very much appreciated.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! ^(talk) 2006-02-21 13:26Z

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Commons Account

Do you have a WikiCommons account? Have you considered uploading your Egyptian images to Commons like this: Image:Bubastis portal at Karnak.jpg so that non-English WP sites can use it. If it is on English WP, I believe only English language WP sites can use them. Just curious. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This was a rare first rate image which sat on Wikipedia for years until I moved it to WikiCommons: Image:Stela of Tuthmosis I.jpg Now it is used on some non-English Wikipedia web sites as this search shows. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure if I do have a commons account. I should probably try and get one. I'm a little out of the wp loop at the moment, but still have images to upload. Markh (talk) 07:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's OK. When you were in Egypt, did you ever visit the smaller Egyptian temples in Nubia like Kalabsha or Beit el-Wali? I am trying to add a few more images there. Just curious. --Leoboudv (talk) 22:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both these are at New Kalabsha, and I have been there. I can provide some pictures if you need - not sure how good they are. Markh (talk) 22:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have 1, 2, 3 or more good and clear photos of the reliefs and/or architecture of Kalabsha and/or Beit el-Wali temples, I can always arrange them in an image gallery like I just did for this article on the Achaemenid era today: [1] (I believe there was a pylon in the Beit el-Wali temple, for instance and some columns. I just uploaded a few pictures of the unique Oxus gold statuettte, chariot, medallions from a flickr owner who was happy to place them on Wikipedia in this image gallery--I had told him all Commons images are CF free. I can do the same for Kalabsha and/or Beit el-Wali...as long as the images are clear and not fuzzy or out of focus, or too dark or bright. As they say, a picture or two (or three) says a thousand words. I mostly wrote the article on king Ps. I of the 21st dynasty but without a good Commons image like this which a flickr image owner agreed to alter the license: Image:Psusennes I mask by Rafaèle.jpg, it would have lacked context sadly. Well, I hope you can help. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Markh, On second thoughts, don't worry about Kalabsha. Someone on flickr agreed to allow an image to be placed on it. I also have a new Commons image for Beit el-Wali. Thanks for your help though. Just remember: if you upload images on WikiCommons, everyone on all the foreign language sites can use it. I ran across a beautiful picture of a temple in Nubia--only one problem. It was uploaded on German WP which meant it could NOT be used on English, French, Spanish, Indian, Chines, etc WP. I tried to use it on English WP...and got a blank screen. Its much preferable to upload images on Commons. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gerf Hussein

What happened to the colossal standing statues of Ramesses II in the peristyle court of Gerf Hussein? They are not in this new picture: Image:Reconstructed Gerf Hussein.jpg Were they abandoned to the Nile or moved to Aswan museum. Just curious. --Leoboudv (talk) 21:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that they were largely destroyed (before the reconstruction). If you look at the picture carefully there is the bottom half of a figure in front of the rear right hand column. There is a statue in the Nubian museum that is Gerf Hussain (I think). Markh (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What a shame! I can't believe the Egyptian authorities abandoned the statues. They were a mini-Abu Simbel. Perhaps, they were under time constraints due to the Awan project. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The underground part of the temple is obviously now lost under Lake Nasser. From what I remember of the statues they were rather dumpy and not classically Egyptian. Markh (talk) 19:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New articles

Just to let you know I created 3 articles here on Egyptian temples in Nubia: Amada, Temple of Maharraqa and Kiosk of Qertassi. I think they are well sourced and written overall...given the (rather) few book sources I could locate on them. I also managed to find a few images for them...thank god! By the way, would I be impertinent to briefly ask if you could tell me the general region where you live--are you in the West, or East coast of the US or in Europe? I find it can be hard to contact the best editors and Admins on certain issues since they are mostly in Europe which is 8-9 hours ahead of Western Canada where I am. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am in Europe - London specifically. I have changed the New Kalabsha article to highlight the kiosk. By the way it is nice to see my Egyptology lecture (Lorna Oakes) quoted in Wikipedia! Markh (talk) 12:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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-== 25th dynasty template ==
-Dear Markh,
-I had to undo your 25th dynasty Nubian template: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twenty-fifth_dynasty_of_Egypt&diff=229382565&oldid=219759803] and made the appropriate corrections to the table because it erroneously placed [[Alara of Nubia|Alara]] as a member of this dynasty. [[Kashta]], his successor, may or may not have been a member of this dynasty (since he controlled parts of Upper Egypt) but Alara certainly was not a 25th dynasty king since he never controlled any region of Egypt in his reign. Perhaps you can delete that template which you created to remove Alara and create a newer one because I don't know how to edit templates. Regards, [[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|talk]]) 10:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
-== Good Article reassessment for [[Valley of the Kings]] ==
-Hello, I am reviewing Archaeology articles as part of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force]] GA sweeps. I reviewed [[Valley of the Kings]] today and placed the article on hold for a week to allow for my concerns to be addressed. I am contacting you because you have been a major contributor to the article and may be able to help. The reassessment can be found at [[Talk:Valley of the Kings/GA1]]. Please get in touch or comment on the reassessment page if you have any questions. Thanks, [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 01:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
-:Wow! I'm really impressed with all the extra work you put in to add more footnotes. I passed the article for GA in the first place, knowing that you had talent, and now feel very reassured. I came very close to reverting all of GaryColemanFan's fact tagging, a practice which I hope [s]he doesn't continue as it was totally excessive. Although there are a plethora (read: too many) of inline comment tags such as {{tl|fact}} and {{tl|huh}} etc. extensive and detailed commentary on specific passages goes better on the talk page or on the reassessment page imo. But I'm glad you responded and added so many. Well done! Regards, [[User_talk:DVD R W|dvdrw]] 02:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-:: When I put this article up for FAC review, all I got was vague 'not enough references', etc. So it was actually useful to have all the citation requests - although there were a large number of them! [[User:Markh|Markh]] ([[User talk:Markh#top|talk]]) 15:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-:I see that you have expanded the lead section, and it looks good. I am confused about the first sentence in the second paragraph: "With the 2005 discovery of a new chamber, the valley is known to contain 63 tombs and chambers, and the majority of the burial places of the major royal figures of the Egyptian New Kingdom, together with those privileged nobles." Does this mean that it contains 63 tombs and chambers and that it includes the majority of the burial places of major royal figures, etc.? If so, would you be okay with something along the lines of "...63 tombs and chambers, which comprises the majority of the burial places..."? The way it reads now, it seems like something is missing (like something will be said about the majority of the burial places in the second half of the sentence). [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 16:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-::Sorry, never mind. You've fixed it a bit already. [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 16:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-::: Hopeful it is a bit clearer now! [[User:Markh|Markh]] ([[User talk:Markh#top|talk]]) 16:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::I like it. Your new version is much better than my attempt. [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 16:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-:::::The only thing that leaves on my list is the "Decoration" section. The more I think about it, however, the more I realize that it would be hard to say much more without creating a need to go into great detail. There are 63 tombs, so the current section might be best kept as is to give a general overview. Readers who want to know more about the decoration of KV62 could just read the article on KV62. You're more knowledgeable in this area, though, so do you think it's best left how it is now, or is there more that you think should be added? [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 16:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::: There is lots that CAN be added, but whether it should be is the question. Each of the tombs is unique, only the progression should probably be noted here, both in decoration and layout. [[User:Markh|Markh]] ([[User talk:Markh#top|talk]]) 16:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Sounds good to me. That's what I was thinking, but I thought I'd check with you. I believe that wraps up the reassessment, so I'll close it and keep the article listed as a GA. Thank you so much for all of your help. This was my first GAR as part of the sweeps team, so I've learned a lot from the experience (and I learned a lot about the Valley of the Kings as well). Best wishes, [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 16:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
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 == Commons Account ==
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 *Dear Markh, On second thoughts, don't worry about Kalabsha. Someone on flickr agreed to allow an image to be placed on it. I also have a new Commons image for [[Beit el-Wali]]. Thanks for your help though. Just remember: if you upload images on WikiCommons, everyone on all the foreign language sites can use it. I ran across a beautiful picture of a temple in Nubia--only one problem. It was uploaded on German WP which meant it could NOT be used on English, French, Spanish, Indian, Chines, etc WP. I tried to use it on English WP...and got a blank screen. Its much preferable to upload images on Commons. Thank You, --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|talk]]) 00:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
-==Gerf Hussein==
+== Gerf Hussein ==
 What happened to the colossal standing statues of Ramesses II in the peristyle court of [[Gerf Hussein]]? They are not in this new picture: [[:Image:Reconstructed Gerf Hussein.jpg]] Were they abandoned to the Nile or moved to Aswan museum. Just curious. --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|talk]]) 21:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 :I think that they were largely destroyed (before the reconstruction). If you look at the picture carefully there is the bottom half of a figure in front of the rear right hand column. There is a statue in the Nubian museum that is Gerf Hussain (I think). [[User:Markh|Markh]] ([[User talk:Markh#top|talk]]) 22:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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 ::The underground part of the temple is obviously now lost under Lake Nasser. From what I remember of the statues they were rather dumpy and not classically Egyptian. [[User:Markh|Markh]] ([[User talk:Markh#top|talk]]) 19:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
-==New articles==
+== New articles ==
 *Just to let you know I created 3 articles here on Egyptian temples in Nubia: [[Amada]], [[Temple of Maharraqa]] and [[Kiosk of Qertassi]]. I think they are well sourced and written overall...given the (rather) few book sources I could locate on them. I also managed to find a few images for them...thank god!  By the way, would I be impertinent to briefly ask if you could tell me the general region where you live--are you in the West, or East coast of the US or in Europe? I find it can be hard to contact the best editors and Admins on certain issues since they are mostly in Europe which is 8-9 hours ahead of Western Canada where I am. Regards, --[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|talk]]) 05:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 :: I am in Europe - London specifically. I have changed the [[New Kalabsha]] article to highlight the kiosk. By the way it is nice to see my Egyptology lecture (Lorna Oakes) quoted in Wikipedia! [[User:Markh|Markh]] ([[User talk:Markh#top|talk]]) 12:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)