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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

• More a social error than anything factual or technical, but I think it's time to picture Hossein Amir-Abdollahian. The president presides, so should have gone first, but the foreign minister is at least the secondmost famous (to "global" audiences). InedibleHulk (talk) 10:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

Allegedly

• ... that the chief editor of the United States' Telegraph allegedly gouged a rival reporter's eyes inside a Senate office?

DYK hooks are supposed to report definite facts but the weasel word "allegedly" tells us that this is not definite. The allegation was made by the rival whose article says "The Intelligencer reported that Green viciously assaulted Sparhawk, while the Telegraph insisted that any physical altercation was minor and that Sparhawk has barely been hurt." It doesn't appear that any serious injury was done, the complaint was not upheld and so the sensational talk of eye-gouging appears to be improper and unbalanced. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

MOS:ALLEGED says: ...although alleged and accused are appropriate when wrongdoing is asserted but undetermined, such as with people awaiting or undergoing a criminal trial; when these are used, ensure that the source of the accusation is clear. The page could be updated to state the source of the allegation. Otherwise, I see this as more of a problem if it was WP:RSBREAKING than for something in the 1800s thats still (presumably) being described as alleged by a modern source.—Bagumba (talk) 09:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Clowns

• ... that women were 33 percent more likely than men to search for clown pornography in 2016?

This stat comes from a single porn site which is neither a reliable source nor an adequate survey of the entire globe. This is tabloid trash. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

• The stat is related specifically to searches on Pornhub, so I have added that qualifier to the hook, otherwise it's simply inaccurate. I'm not too bothered about the whole subject though, Vice is listed as no consensus at WP:RSP, so it's not automatically barred, and I would assume the stat originates from Pornhub itself... (although quite how they would know whether someone searching their site is a woman or a man is another matter). I'd think this meets WP:V and is interesting enough so I'm inclined to leave as is.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

  I also updated the page to make it clear that Pornhub is also the source of the stat, not some independent source. As for the hook, DYK doesnt seem to consistently provide inline attribution, so I'll leave it to others to determine if that is an issue for this hook. —Bagumba (talk) 09:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

  What would Heinrich Böll say? -- Sca (talk) 12:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

  I always use my weekend alias "Penny" when I search for clown porn... Martinevans123 (talk) 13:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

COI

• ... that Axel Downard-Wilke (pictured) led a campaign in 2020 to have macrons used in Māori place names in Wikipedia articles?

Noting I have tagged Axel Downard-Wilke for undisclosed COI editing, for reasons explained at WP:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Axel Downard-Wilke. – Teratix ₵ 08:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

It appears there was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Axel Downard-Wilke, which was closed per speedy keep #6 for being linked on the MP. SK6 says:

If the problem is urgent, consensus should be gained at WP:ERRORS to remove the link before nominating for deletion.

—Bagumba (talk) 09:13, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

 Pulled. Given that the article is now Orange-tagged (which is not permitted for DYK content), and also the fact that we take WP:COI cases seriously, I have removed this hook from DYK for the time being, and replaced with an alternative picture hook and also added in an old hook from last year for main page balance.

Obviously there hasn't been a lot of discussion here or at WP:COIN so far, so perhaps consensus might later emerge that the hook is OK, but I'm acting on the precautionary principle here. If there's later a consensus to reinstate Downard-Wilke's hook then I've listed the image at Commons auto-protection so it could go straight up without needing re-protection.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Also notifying @Marshelec, Xoak, PrimalMustelid, and Premeditated Chaos: who were involved with this hook, FYI. Sorry should have done this earlier.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

@Amakuru, When I approved the hook, there were no COI concerns raised. I remember noticing a COI disclosure on the talk page, but now I realize it was from the subject themselves (Mr. Wilke), who had nothing to do it either the DYK or the article. Good thing you did there, pulling it out from the main page. Prompt action. Now that we're past that, we may participate on the COIN discussion. X (talk) 13:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

"1798 - The Irish Rebellion of 1798 began, with battles beginning in County Kildare and fighting later spreading across the country." Should be written with en dash, "1798 – The Irish Rebellion of 1798 began, with battles beginning in County Kildare and fighting later spreading across the country." Sheila1988 (talk) 15:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(May 24, today)

Monday's FL

(May 27)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

How much

how much did Guinness pay for the ad on wiki, and can I pay for the same? 81.76.3.166 (talk) 18:56, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello there. Because Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, and a registered charity, we are not funded by advertising. You would not have seen this product advertised, and we would not accept payments for advertising. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 19:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I suspect that 81.76 is referring to the appearance of noitulovE as Today's Featured Article. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 22:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

This has got to be the 10th time I've seen someone with this same complaint. The fact of the matter is that Wikipedia's editors are primarily young white males, and what do young white males enjoy more than pop culture? 98.207.43.214 (talk) 23:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I wonder how much Tyrone Wheatley payed us to put him on the front page or The Beatles or the Anglo-Saxon chronicle. For that matter, we must be getting huge amounts of money from the United States Congress. They've been on the front page all week. 66.231.141.34 (talk) 04:49, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and look at how many blurbs and such there are for the Wikimedia Foundation... they must be spending a fortune on ads here. Aylad ['ɑɪlæd] 05:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Though, 98.207.43.214 does have a point about young white males. Just because WP covers all topics, does not mean its editors have wide-ranging interests. Some topics receive more attention than others. 118.90.18.154 (talk) 06:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Systemic bias for more on that. -Elmer Clark (talk) 08:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, like black people aren't hooked on pop culture either. 210.50.99.56 (talk) 16:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, hey, we aren't trying to spark an uncivil conflict here...no need to press this discussion further, I think the necessary points have already been made. IceUnshattered ^{[ t ]} 22:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Today's Featured Media (5th October)

I'd just like to say that I found the featured video today very moving. Thank you. TleilaxuMaster (talk) 12:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I thought of it as a snuff movie; those are actual people being killed. EamonnPKeane (talk) 13:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I didn't think anything of it since it just gets stuck in buffer mode. Why put a video on the front page of Wikipedia which we already know has terrible server capacity? Stick to photos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.148.15.99 (talk) 16:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I also struggled to see it, and didn't see the whole thing until I downloaded it and installed a plugin for WMP, which still crashed the player after the video had finished. I really don't think there's anything wrong with sticking to more common formats, like MP3 and AVI, but I doubt that's going to change. J Milburn (talk) 16:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, that is why I found it so interesting Eamonn. The distanced and almost casual attitude, looking through a crosshair at individuals, the ease of which they are dispensed with, etc. Comparisons could be drawn between it and looking at bacterium in a Petri dish. The way individuals and society gives lip-service to the abhorring of murder while society itself commits these crimes through individuals...I could go on. I didnt have any problems streaming here. (England.) TleilaxuMaster (talk) 16:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd love to comment on the video, but it never manages to finish loading and the download abruptly cancels before the halfway mark for me. JPG-GR (talk) 17:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Myn expernce is that your best bet is to instal VLC media player.Geni 18:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

AVI, WMV and MP3 are proprietary, copyrighted formats. Using them goes against Wikipedia's licensing statement (GFDL and so on), see here and here. You can install the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack (files playable in any other media player or included Media Player Classic) or VLC (article, contains mainly the same codecs as KLMCP, but they're built in so only VLC can use them) and the files will play fine in your browser and once downloaded to a folder. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 21:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

So there are no freeware media players that play them? Are you saying that someone using a freeware operating system would be unable to use them? J Milburn (talk) 21:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

freeware? Not relivant. Wikipedia's standards are FOSS. There are players built on FOSS systems but they have legal issues.Geni 23:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

In any case, note that freeware or not, in some countries you need a patent license to use patented codecs. Normally the person who develops the codec seeks a licence on behalf of the user but this may not be the case with freeware codecs. While codec patent holder have never (to my knowledge) persued home end users for patent claims, it doesn't mean it's okay to expect people to have to infringe patents to play a file Nil Einne (talk) 13:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

A snuff movie is when you kill someone purely to film them dying, so this isn't a snuff movie because the reason for their deaths wasn't related to the film. If it was merely a snuff movie it would have been a lot less sick and disturbing. --86.167.18.59 (talk) 00:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

can you guys put where it is located —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.237.227.21 (talk) 22:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

What are you referring to? The location where the video is shot? Please clarify. Also, it you would sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~), that would be appreciated. IceUnshattered ^{[ t ]} 22:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

A featured pic hat trick

I see we have one of the pictures from crepuscular rays on the Main Page today. I'm not sure we had them on the Main Page at the time but both this crep-ray pic and this one have been on Picture of the Day as well, making it possibly (and understandably, given how tempting they are as a subject when you see them and have a camera in hand) the only subject to be represented by three Pictures of the Day. Good work! Daniel Case (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

NRL grand final

How is the result of the NRL grand final worthy of a position in the 'In the news' section? Shouldn't this be about events of global, or at least national significance? The NRL grand final is neither. I call for it to be removed. Suicup (talk) 00:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

It's not from the U.S. so it made it. WTF. –Howard the Duck 02:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

That "news" is completely irrelevant to most of the world (ie non NRL watching Australians). It's neatly sandwiched between topics of greater notability, say the Nobel prize (HIV) and the arguably the world's biggest economic crisis. The contrast in notability is very clear. Whilst it has an article, it is not main page material. 129.78.149.91 (talk) 06:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I've removed it. Fram (talk) 06:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think that was a mistake. We routinely list the championship games of major sporting finals, very few of which are of global importance. Just because it was Australia rather than North America or Western Europe hardly means it is less notable. Resolute 01:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Lemme make it clear that ITN only calls for "international importance or interest," not global importance/significance. Otherwise there'll be a dearth of items eligible for ITN. –Howard the Duck 05:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Any further discussion should take place either at WP:ITN/C or WT:ITN Nil Einne (talk) 19:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign proposal

Hi Main Pagers! You'll be aware of the Main Page redesign proposal currently under discussion; it would be fantastic if you could take a moment to review and comment on both my personal proposal, and the others too. We really need your opinion and advice to keep the project moving. All the best -- Pretzels^Talk! 15:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Please see WP:ABDFI --58.108.70.161 (talk) 04:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoa! That was meant to be a joke, I didn't realize there was an actual policy named that. --220.236.59.243 (talk) 14:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)