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I understand that while they will mostly produce ethanol for gasohol after 2010 G&R will still be producing a small amount for local consumption and also making rum after that date. [[User:RichardBond|RichardBond]] ([[User talk:RichardBond#top|talk]]) 23:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC) |
I understand that while they will mostly produce ethanol for gasohol after 2010 G&R will still be producing a small amount for local consumption and also making rum after that date. [[User:RichardBond|RichardBond]] ([[User talk:RichardBond#top|talk]]) 23:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi Richard I have removed the copyright tags from the article Erasmus M. Smithers because there is a credible claim that the text is from the public domain as you said. However, please take the time to fundamentally rewrite it and expand it. It is currently not suitable in tone etc for WP, which is not surprising since it was written in 1903 when the guy was still alive. I hope you will be able to get it up to snuff soon! Welcome. Slp1 (talk) 01:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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The article Corliss P. Stone was deleted because it was an exact copy of text found elsewhere on the web, and so posting it was in violation of copyright law. If you are sure that this person is notable and you wish to write about him in you own words please feel free to recreate the article. Please have a look at Wikipedia:Manual of style to see what a Wikipedia article should look like. (If you wish to reply to me you can do so here - I will see any edits you make here). DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I have copied two entries on the talk page of the above article to here. Since the article is deleted the talk page will be too, and you may wish to have a record of what was said. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The age of the book this text is from puts the text in the public domain. I also intend to add info from other sources. (contributed by User:RichardBond)
- You really should rewrite this in your own words, though you are free (indeed, encouraged) to use this text as a reference. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hi again Richard.
Thanks for your willingness to contribute to Wikipedia. It's true that an old book is probably in the public domain. However there are other reasons why the original article is inappropriate. It is written in the style of a memoir and not an encyclopedia article: it does not conform to the Wikipedia:Manual of style; and it will need very heavy editing to bring it to Wikipedia standards. I strongly recommend that you rewrite the information there in your own words in in a form appropriate for an encyclopedia. However if you insist on reposting the material it will probably not be deleted again, as long as you include a statement that it is in the public domain.
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- I take that warning back as I see now that your recent page is a) not a test page and b) not a copyvio. Sorry for the final warning. Keep up the article writing and just ignore my warning. My apologies again, Cunard (talk) 02:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Public domain
Before anyone blocks you, could provide a link showing how the source for all this is in the public domain? If so, you need to appeal at WP:DRV rather than recreating these. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 02:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Better yet
rewrite in your own wordd citing the source. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 02:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Response
I start with public domain material then change the text as I get more information from other sources. Also I have not removed stylistic changes or additional information posted by others here to the articles I started. I welcome doing future collaboration with historians and resent people who delete robotically without having regard for sharing the history involved.
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I assume this is about Howard Cranston Potter. 7 people have thought the article should be speedily deleted because it did not assert WHY he was notable. 4 of them tagged it for speedy deletion, the other 3 (including me, most recently) pressed the button to delete it. Instead of blaming others, perhaps improve what you're writing, rather than simply reposting it time after time without addressing the fundamental problem that was leading to it being deleted time after time. Being someone's father-in-law isn't a sufficient assertion of notability, and there's preciously little else in the article about anything apart from his relatives.
If you disagree that the deletions were right, you have two options: (1) write a better article and avoid the problem that way; (2) go to WP:DRV.
As for the articles that I write, they are all to be found in existing biographical dictionaries such as the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography or the Dictionary of Welsh Biography, and are all properly sourced and referenced. I don't accept the comparison, or the charge of favouritism/bias.
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June 2008
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Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Corliss P. Stone, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. This is not being deleted for copyvio - it is being deleted because you are not asserting the notability of the subject look at WP:CSD#A7 Fritzpoll (talk) 21:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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Corliss P. Stone
Despite your personal attacks on me, I have reviewed the policies on these matters, and the source you cite. I have concluded that the source is public domain, that the individual's notability is asserted, and so I have restored the article. If anyone gives you any trouble about this article in terms of copyright violation, please drop a line to my talkpage and I will handle it for you. I have tagged it for cleanup to attract new editors to make it more of an encyclopedic article. Best wishes Fritzpoll (talk) 22:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- No problem - I'll gloss over the personal stuff on the grounds of frustration with a load of admins who didn't seem to be listening. Good luck with the article Fritzpoll (talk) 22:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Although I withdrew the warning when the article failed CSD, I am restoring this warning as it appears you have a conflict of interest in regard to this subject. I would kindly ask that you please review WP:COI before making additional editorial contributions on this subject. If you would like to see Dr. Bond's work cited on Wikipedia, it may be best to seek a third party's assistance. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 11:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
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Despite initial difficulty from an "edit cowboy" James Pieronnet Pierce a codeveloper of the Empire mine one of the largest in California was eventually accepted. It was up for months and I only just now found out about it being deleted by another "edit cowboy" when I tried to post the profile of James ben Ali Haggin the developer of one of the largest mines in Nevada.
Please stop
Please stop recreating the talkpage of Richard Marshall Bond - the article has been deleted, and there should be no talk page for a deleted or non-existent article. I have not been reading the text, and nor has anyone else. If you have questions, please find an alternative forum. Fritzpoll (talk) 16:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
"I have not been reading the text"-Fritzpoll Obviously RichardBond (talk) 16:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, mostly because it isn't my concern, and it is in the wrong place. How about bringing your concerns to the attention of the administrator who actually deleted your page, rather than picking on me for performing a standard housekeeping task that the deleting administrator forgot to do? I have nothing to do with your article being deleted. Fritzpoll (talk) 16:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll echo this, Richard. If you want to talk about why your article was deleted, my talk page is open. I don't think I can add anything to what Fritzpoll has already said, but I'll be happy to do my best (once I get some sleep, of course). --jonny-mt 16:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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Despite initial difficulty with an "edit cowboy" James Pieronnet Pierce a codeveloper of the largest mine in California was eventually accepted and was up for months. Now another "edit cowboy" deleted it which I found only out when I tried to add the profile of some of the largest mines in the history of Nevada James ben Ali Haggin. Both of these articles are so old as to be in the public domain under United States law.
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The copyright notice at the bottom of the page says "Copyright 1998-2008". Also the above article is also inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Please rewrite it so as to be appropriate. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- The website you copied from asserts that they own the copyright to what you copied. You may disagree with them, but we only have your word for it that the original is out of copyright. They say the original was only 'a source', not that they copied it. Wikipedia is not about to get involved in a copyright dispute. Since the article you copied is highly inappropriate for an encyclopedia may I strongly suggest you write an article about James ben Ali Haggin in your own words, using that website as a source, but not copying it. (Incidentally, you can reply on this page - I will see it) DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Richard...
If you are asking about permission to copy this particular bio at url below... the answer is Yes. Would also be nice on Wikipedia!
http://haggin.org/JBAH_Biography.html
I actually did not edit anything, nor add or subtract from. I just recall retyping it exactly as I found it. Just retyped and posted the original text. As I also found it on the web and with the Source. About 8 years ago tho. Then did add 2 photographs I found elsewhere. I also can't even remember where I did find the article. While I've seen many since, this was and still is the best (to me anyway).
Source: History of Kentucky, The J.S. Clarke Publishing Company, Louisville Kentucky, 1928
Kind regards, Linda
<--- In Re ---
Dear Linda Haggin Peck
> May I have your permission to copy the JBAH bio on Wikipedia? Is it copied from the book or did you edit it. Thanks RB
Linda Haggin Peck 1666 Alexandria Drive Lexington, KY 40504 805-630-0172 (Cell) Skype: haggin.org http://LHP2.com http://Haggin.net http://Haggin.org
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Speedy deletion of James ben Ali Haggin
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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on James ben Ali Haggin. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. CultureDrone (talk) 07:28, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
BEFORE YOU GO DESTROYING OTHER PEOPLES PAGES FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH AMERICAN COPYRIGHT LAW AND READ BOTH THE RELEVANT DISCUSSION AND TALK PAGES. WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT I NEEDED TO CHECK IF THE ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN OR EDITED BY THE OWNER OF HAGGIN.ORG I DID. LINDA HAGGIN PECK'S RESPONSE WAS TO PLEASE PUT IT UP. SINCE THEN A BUNCH OF LAZY INCOMPETENT "EDIT COWBOYS" DELETED IT REPEATEDLY DESPITE REMINDERS REGARDING THE DIFERENCE BETWEEN BRITISH AND AMERICAN COPYRIGHT LAW. IF YOU CAN NOT BE BOTHERED TO RESPECT THE LEGAL DIFFERENCE THEN RECUSE YOURSELF. WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING NEXT? DELETE ARTICLES ON RUBBER TIRES FOR MISSPELLING?
- Please be civil, and don't use all caps. We are explaining Wikipedia policies to you, not making things up. Let us explain a few more.
- First we can't just take your word for what was said by the copyright owner. It's not that we think you are lying, we just have to be sure for legal reasons. Wikipedia could be prosecuted if we violate copyright law, which is why we are so strict about it. What you need to do is to get the website owner to put a notice on the website saying that the text is in the public domain (this shouldn't be a problem if it is actually a copy of an old document). Alternatively you could tell us how to get in touch with the copyright owner herself. Then we can verify things for ourselves. This would have to be through an email that would clearly identify her as being associated with the website.
- Finally this has nothing to do with differences in national copyright laws. The same approach would be taken with a website in any country. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Can I also remind you that a person has to be notable to get an article on Wikipedia. It is not clear that James ben Ali Haggin is notable. From reading the website he seems to have been a rich farmer, only significant because of his house. It would be helpful to have a brief summary of his achievements. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
DJ Only someone who likes making arbitrary rulings out of complete ignorance and laziness would have made the mistakes that you did. All I have to do is look at the subjects that you added to see that half or more are not as well known as James ben Ali Haggin. He is notable on numerous grounds as a lawyer, rancher, miner and horse breeder. He was also notable for being part Turkish among Turkish Americans. Also the page that the public domain text is on has the owners email address. Not contacting her to ask whether her note is a forgery is your omission not mine. I have also found out that it is possible for an edit cowboy to arbitarily remove an article which another editor has negotiated changes into eventual approval but that is another historic profile Pierce.
Thanks for explaining the single line problem
- Hi Richard. Please can you make sure that you sign any posts you make on a talk page. Do this by adding four tildes at the end of your edit like this: ~~~~. They will be converted to your name and the date and time automatically.
- Can you also please refrain from insulting other editors and accusing them of incompetence or laziness when they are trying to help you out. You will not make any friends here if you continue like this. Wikipedia is a community effort and you need to abide by its rules and conventions if you want to participate. The process of checking copyright assertion takes time, and your impatience is not helping.
- Can I also point out that the text that you pasted into Wikipedia is entirely inappropriate for an encyclopedia article and at best will require extensive editing to conform to theWikipedia:Manual of style. Are you going to do that editing, or are you going to leave it to one of the other 'lazy' people who edit this encyclopedia? DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
DJ What you have demonstrated is power, subjective judgement and arbitraryness. You have totally removed an article without even checking with the person whose copyright you not they are claiming that the article is under. Addition of information and stylistic changes can not be made to a void space. Are you going to replace the article when you have bothered to contact Linda Haggin Peck? Most of the historians that I know that I bring up Wikipedia to are either mystified by how to join or are burned out from having done so. There is no reason why I should accept that Caryl Churchill is notable but my knowledge of drama performance in England is limited and I can accept that. In the same situation reversed you use your ignorance as reason for deletion. RichardBond (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- As you will find when you have been here a bit longer, the burden is on the person adding material to Wikipedia to show that it satisfies the copyright and notability requirements. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
By that reasoning DJ most of your articles added would not past muster on notability grounds. Most of my new article additions have been articles from before 75 years ago which I added additional information to. That period is longer in Britain I know but it is not the same law here. RichardBond (talk) 19:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
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- Hello. There isn't any point creating an article before you have some content for it. Even a stub at least defines its topic in a way useful to a reader. —Largo Plazo (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
There should be an article on the history of the Vancouver Stock Exchange 1907 to 1999 as contrasted to the TSX Venture Exchange. RichardBond (talk) 01:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Notability of Ibrahim Ben Ali
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notability is fine
As reviewing administrator, I think the notability as a mining pioneer is fine. But, and it is a very big but, it appears that this is also a copyright violation--see the talk page. You are responsible for the content you paste from other sites, and it appears exceedingly likely that the author of that page did not have permission for the material she used from a printed source. Whether she did or did not give you permission under WP:GFDL, which is much more than just permission to use in WP, is irrelevant. If you would like to claim that you did not use more than a small fair use excerpt from that source, please provide exact quotation marks for the material used. Be aware that paraphrase does not meet our policy. The information DJClayworth posted above with respect to another article is perfectly correct. (and the current US copyright date before which material is Public Domain is 95 years for published works, unless you can show it falls under the various exceptions.) DGG (talk) 09:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
The date of the original publication is before the cut off point for copyright protection under United States law and is there for public domain. RichardBond (talk) 23:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
I did not understand the 95 years to extend to a work published that early. I understood it as present and future works. In either case it would be good to have Linda Haggin Peck do the rewrite because she has additional info that is not in the book. Would that put works by someone who died in 1916 back under copyright? That is less than 95 years, if so Jack London's heirs now have a fortune in the royalties coming from US publishers that they no longer thought they had. RichardBond (talk) 00:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
For the second time (originally added by an anon IP[1]) you restored out of date information to Sugar plantations in Hawaii. You wrote: "Puunene mill on Maui is one of the two last operating sugar mills in Hawaii".[2] Do you have any evidence that is true? Viriditas (talk) 09:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I understand that while they will mostly produce ethanol for gasohol after 2010 G&R will still be producing a small amount for local consumption and also making rum after that date. RichardBond (talk) 23:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)