Talk:Neil Turbin

Clean-up

There is inaccurate infomation that Neil Turbin was only on the one Anthrax album "Fistful Of Metal". This is false information. His songs and vocals are on Soldiers Of Metal 45 released in 1983, Compilations Hell Comes To Your House released by Music For Nations in 1984, Armed And Dangerous released in 1985, Spreading The Disease released in 1986. Fistful Of Anthrax released in 1987 on Polystar Records. This information paints a false picture of the truth and these are just a small portion of the Anthrax releases with Neil Turbin. Due to the rigid standards of Wikipedia and uptightness of Wiki Police Editors and Bots, it appears that slander, libel and misinformation reigns supreme on Wiki, versus allowing someone to correct the inaccuracies and misperceptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.85.46 (talk) 02:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I have tidied & cleaned a bit; clearly there is more to do. I have added Fact templates, mostly to remind myself of what to look up, not to make the thing look unreferenced.

The question of whether Turbin was the original vocalist for Anthrax is probably not going to make someone happy. If anyone has proof that he was, please show it (cite the reference) before changing it. At the moment, i have gone by the Anthrax article and the List of Anthrax band members, both of which indicate that he was not orignal, but that at least John Connelly and Dirk Kennedy were prior members & vocalists. I will continue to revert, unless a ciation is provided otherwise. Cheers, Lindsay 14:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Original vocalist.

This section has been copied and slightly reformatted from User talk:Thrashiq. Cheers, Lindsay 14:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Please read the talk page before reverting to your statement he's the original vocalist. This needs verification, especially since it can be shown he was not. Thank you. Cheers, Lindsay 07:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Please get a handle on this and get your facts straight Lindsay. Where did you learn about metal? Neil Turbin is/was the original singer of Anthrax. Jason Rosenfeld, Scott Ian Rosenfeld's adolescent kid brother was a temporary singer for a few months, because they couldn't find a suitable singer. He was a 14 year old kid that Scott made sing for his band while they tried to get a real frontman/singer who actually had been in a band before and could actually sing and perform in front of an audience. John Connelly was a roadie for Anthrax who tried out for the band a few times, which does not now or ever make him a member of Anthrax. Neither Jason or John did anything notable regarding Anthrax other than being related to the band or being a friend of the band and helping to move equipment. To prove that Neil Turbin was the original singer of Anthrax, shows whats wrong with Wikipedia in the first place. Here's the facts/proof positive that you seem to be unaware of which is likely due in part to revisionist history perpetrated over years by the band itself and publicist. The New Rolling Stone Album Guide by Nathan Brackett, Christian David Hoarde.http://books.google.com/books?id=lRgtYCC6OUwC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=original+anthrax+vocalist+neil+turbin+1999&source=web&ots=QA3XIa_u6C&sig=BuwF49i6D9GF0d5W8xtLJ3BB57s&hl=en

http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=368  http://www.metal-rules.com/zine/content/view/779/0/ 

As a member of Anthrax Interview with Joey Belladonna who admits who the first singer of Anthrax was. http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:sdzGbrKRuioJ:www.fullinbloommusic.com/anthraxjoey.html+original+anthrax+vocalist&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=13&gl=us

Thrashiq(Thrashiq (talk) 09:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC))

Thank you, Thrashiq, now we're getting somehwere. Please be polite, and assume good faith; my goal is, i assume, the same as yours ~ to make this as good and accurate as possible. The link you have given, however, does not seem to mention Turbin at all, so i'm having trouble understanding how it is a valid reference. If you are actually quoting the book, i suggest yo take a look at this page which will help you do so in a manner that is replicatable for others. If you already know this, i apologise. The same page will also show you how to format the link/reference so that it show properly in the page.

I would also point out that links to YouTube are often frowned upon and may be removed; they certainly need reformatting to show properly.

Let me reiterate, my goal is to make this as good as can be; i have no axe to grind, and am happy to help if need be. Cheers, Lindsay 12:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

End of cutandpaste section.

I am revisiting this point, because it is clear that Turbin was not the 'original' vocalist by any understanding of the word. 'Original' in this use refers to the first of a series; even if they were people pulled off the street, with no ability whatsoever, these people mentioned above sang with the band, and thus were vocalists. I shall indicate that he was the first recorded singer; will that do? Cheers, Lindsay 05:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Revisionist History about Neil Turbin

Why Peter Fleet do you revert information that is innacurate, unfounded and false about power thrash vocalist Neil Turbin, original singer of Anthrax who sang on Fistful Of Metal, Armed and Dangerous (2 songs Soldiers Of Metal and Howling Furies). How do you know he was fired. Were you there. Do you know there are conflicting reports of the circumstances. Perhaps you spoke with Neil Turbin and know information that everyone else didn't know. Your editing changes are under the auspice of truth and fact when you have the facts wrong and you are pretending to be neutral but your jagged opinion is anything but neutral. So much for the Wikipedia Neutral Policeman that you are perpetrating. Please do not Vandalize the Neil Turbin Wikipedia page with your false information. Neil Turbin is a power vocalist. He is different than the singers of all of the big 4 bands of THrash: Anthrax, Metallica, Slayer and Megadeth.