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Organization XIII factsheet

Elements, weapons, and Nobodies are taken from the Ultimania, with the exception of Zexion's element, which was taken from a Famitsu interview with Nomura and Lexaeus' weapon, which is referred to as a tomahawk in his profiles for Chain of Memories and II. Original selves come from in-game information, Secret Ansem Report #2 and #3 in the case of Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion, with big, obvious scenes revolving around the original selves of Xemnas and Roxas.

Gaps with no confirmed information are:

• Original selves of Saïx, Axel, Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene.
• Nobodies of Vexen, Lexaeus, Zexion, Marluxia, and Larxene.
• Weapon of Zexion.

• I. Xemnas (ゼムナス, zemunasu)
  • Original self: Xehanort (ゼアノート, zeanōto), uses Ansem (アンセム, ansemu) for anagram
  • Element: Nothingness (無, mu)
  • Weapon: Aerial Blade (エアリアルブレード, eariaru barēdo)
  • Nobody: Sorcerer (ソーサラー, sōsarā)
• II. Xigbar (シグバール, shigubāru)
  • Original self: Braig (ブライグ, buraigu, mistranslated as Bleig)
  • Element: Space (空間, kūkan)
  • Weapon: Gun Arrow (ガンアロー, gan arō)
  • Nobody: Sniper (スナイパー, sunaipā)
• III. Xaldin (ザルディン, zarudin)
  • Original self: Dilan (ディラン, diran, mistranslated as Dilin)
  • Element: Wind (風, kaze)
  • Weapon: Lance (ランス, ransu)
  • Nobody: Dragoon (ドラグーン, doragūn)
• IV. Vexen (ヴィクセン, vikusen)
  • Original self: Even (エヴェン)
  • Element: Ice (氷, kōri)
  • Weapon: Shield (シールド, shīrudo)
  • Nobody: –
• V. Lexaeus (レクセウス, rekuseusu)
  • Original self: Aeleus (エレウス, ereusu, mistranslated as Eleus)
  • Element: Earth (土, tsuchi)
  • Weapon: Tomahawk as given in Lexaeus' journal profiles in Chain of Memeories and II, Axe Sword (アックスソード, akku susōdo) in the Ultimania
  • Nobody: –
• VI. Zexion (ゼクシオン, zekushion)
  • Original self: Ienzo (イエンツォ, Ientso)
  • Element: Illusion (幻影, genei) [1]
  • Weapon: –
  • Nobody: –
• VII. Saïx (サイクス, saikusu, Ramanized as Saix in the Ultimania)
  • Original self: –
  • Element: Moon (月, tsuki)
  • Weapon: Claymore (クレイモア, kureimoa), Berserker weapons are referred to as hammers in their journal entry, but Saïx's weapon is not referred to
  • Nobody: Berserker (バーサーカー, bāsākā)
• VIII. Axel (アクセル, akuseru)
  • Original self: –
  • Element: Flame (炎, Homura)
  • Weapon: Chakram (チャクラム, chakuramu)
  • Nobody: Assassin (アサシン, asashin)
• IX. Demyx (デミックス, demikkusu)
  • Original self: –
  • Element: Water (水, mizu)
  • Weapon: Sitar (シタール, shitāru)
  • Nobody: Dancer (ダンサー, dansā)
• X. Luxord (ルクソード, rukusōdo)
  • Original self: –
  • Element: Time (時, toki)
  • Weapon: Card (カード, kādo)
  • Nobody: Gambler (ギャンブラー, gyanburā)
• XI. Marluxia (マールーシャ, mārūsha)
  • Original self: –
  • Element: Flower (花, hana)
  • Weapon: Scythe (サイズ, saizu)
  • Nobody: –
• XII. Larxene (ラクシーヌ, rakushīnu)
  • Original self: –
  • Element: Thunder (雷, kaminari)
  • Weapon: Knife (ナイフ, naifu)
  • Nobody: –
• XIII. Roxas (ロクサス, rokusasu)
  • Original self: Sora (ソラ)
  • Element: Light (光, hikari)
  • Weapon: Keyblade (キーブレード, kīburēdo)
  • Nobody: Samurai (サムライ)

Axel's section needs revision

I was going to revise his section myself, but, unfortunately, unregistered and newly-registered users aren't allowed to edit this article. So, I ask someone who is skilled in writing to re-craft Axel's section, as it's a travesty in terms of grammar and flow. If no one does it by the time I am not considered "newly-registered," then I'll do it myself. Machinamar 15:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with it. What do you think needs to change? VI Zexion 23:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Should Roxas get his own article?

Roxas is IMHO, too important to the game not to have his own page. He should still be on Organization XIII's page, but also get his own, with more detail (perhaps such information as original fan speculation, but XIII's page have less in-depth info; just the basics).TruthTakesTime47

No. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 07:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

We have gone over this before. The answer is no. There is simply not enough to say about him to warrant an article. Axem Titanium 17:47, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

One could incorporate Roxas' story into Sora (Kingdom Hearts) if they really wanted to, though. We did the same for Xehanort. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 22:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Zexion's Weapon

It looks like Zexion's weapon is making an appearence RE:Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, and it's... Riku's keyblade? O_o[2]

It's a manifestation of Zexion's Illusion power, not his actual weapon. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 09:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

It's been confirmed that Zexion can use his power of illusion to mimic others' weapons, but he actually has his own actual weapon. And that's not a Keyblade, it's just a fancy sword called Soul Eater.—ウルタプ 16:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Better pic for Roxas?

This has been bugging me since forever, why is Roxas' Organization attire pic so bad? Can someone find a better pic with him wielding his weapons? (Leonhart9999 23:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC))

Feel free to find this nonexistent render. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 18:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Lexaeus' original name?

It's listed as "Aeleus" on the page now (and the mistranslation "Eleus" is mentioned as well)... but, if I remember right, it was always listed as "Elaeus" before. Which one's right? I know Elaeus sounds/looks a heck of a lot better, but Squeenix does have something of a history of choosing the shittier translation when there's two choices... 63.215.28.145 00:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

"Elaeus" was a fan Romanization of the katakana that adhered to the whole "anagram with 'X'" rule, but Aeleus works as well and is official.—ウルタプ 01:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Where exactly in the official stuff is "Aeleus" used? Even after the Ultimania translations came out, the only name I ever saw anywhere was Elaeus. I think I remember someone mentioning the European releases had it as "Alaeus," but that doesn't work either (2 A's and 1 E... supposed to be the other way around); so that's another mistranslation. The only place I've ever seen Aeleus used is Wikipedia, and even here it was a pretty recent change (at least a couple months after Ultimania translations and English-language KH2 were available). Just seems a little fishy to me; I'd like to see where the name was officially stated, that's all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.215.28.145 (talk) 01:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC).