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Fixing redirects

Hi. If I move a page with lots of incoming links, do I have to ask your bot to help fix the redirects that develop, or will it take care of the problem eventually? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 17:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks! Xiner (talk, email) 22:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About your protection of the adolescent sexuality article.

Well, Someone finally protected it. But you did so at the wrong time, right after a certain user whose name i won't mention due to fear of being lashed out at, added the following and twisted some peoples words around, (As well as literally cutting out chunks of certain viewpoints in order to decrease validity) Places of concern (Which i found on a quick scan through of ONLY the first three or so paragraphs... are below.

In the United States most teenage sexual encounters today take place outside the context of romantic relationships

Increasingly, teenage sexual encounters in the United States do not occur in the context of a romantic relationship

These are two instances, one is sourced from Leonard Sax, the other is a paraphrase Which i presume was used as an excuse to put in a qoute TWO times.


Most experts agree that "teens - and preteens - are too young to fathom the consequences, both physical and emotional, of their [sexual] behavior. Adolescent sexuality refers to sexual feelings, behavior and development in adolescents. All "teens have sexual lives, whether with others or through fantasies."[1] Sexuality "is a vital aspect of teens' lives. ... The question is whether they are going to have healthy experiences, at any or every level of sexual activity."[2] Both boys and girls are now "entering puberty at least two years earlier than previous generations. This means they are ready for sex earlier physically, but not emotionally or cognitively."[3]

Obviously POV, the orginial citation (AS admitted by this user, was a sweeping geenralization that said ALL teenagers are too young. That in itself caused me to engage in an edit war due to it's POV, but now the quote itself has been twisted into a weasel-word so that it says MOST experts) And there are PLENTY of experts on the subject who don't share that view AT ALL. The ALL part was removed, but just so it could be twisted more. I don't think Lynn Ponton, the person who said this quote even said All teens, just teens)

The lead has been filled with THIS despite my best efforts.

Adolescent sexuality refers to sexual feelings, behavior and development in adolescents. All "teens have sexual lives, whether with others or through fantasies."[1] Sexuality "is a vital aspect of teens' lives. ... The question is whether they are going to have healthy experiences, at any or every level of sexual activity."[2] Both boys and girls are now "entering puberty at least two years earlier than previous generations. This means they are ready for sex earlier physically, but not emotionally or cognitively."[3]

Although I had proposed (This was one of the earlier leads as posted by someone) this NPOV statement in order to try and stop the disputes.... the user reverted it multiple times.

Human sexual behavior generally and adolescent sexual behavior in most individuals is typically influenced, or heavily affected by norms from the culture in which the individual lives. Examples of such norms are prohibitions on sexual intercourse before marriage, against homosexual sexual activity, or other taboo activities, because the religion or culture to which the individual belongs forbids them. Sometimes individuals choose not to ascribe to culturally or religious imposed norms.

And lastly (There are more things but I won't bother to go over them)

While Advocates for Youth [1], a 'limb' of the youth rights movement advocates for comprehensive sex education and fully supports allowing adolescents to make sexual decisions on their own but encourages the use ofcontraception (At least condoms if Male-Male or Male-Female) every time they have sex in order to avoid unintended pregnancy and the transmission of HIV/AIDS. [2]

The above was the original, but parts got mysteriously 'deleted' so it turned out to be THIS.

[12] Advocates for Youth, a 'limb' of the youth rights movement advocates for comprehensive sex education and encourages the use of contraception[13]

Far shorter, and doesn't state their MAJOR, beliefs, goals, and actions they take to make those happen. And the link to the page with their goals was CLEARLY placed next to it. That edit in itself Greatly reduced the validity of approximately HALF of a MAJOR viewpoint in the article that is NOT against adolescent sexuality.

I can't stress this enough... (This needs to be solved) And..

do you mind if i fix these so that they're in their true states of citation and so that the lead is at least GLOBALLY applicable (Not just a united states 'experts' opinion?, it Would greatly reduce misunderstandings by visitors to the page while major disputes are resolved and I can't stand to think that things like THAT will be left unfixed for... who knows how long. I hope you understand and can meet my requests. Nateland 18:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ok sure.

No problem, i hope it gets sorted out sometime soon.

Thanks for the advice though.

Nateland 18:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, as well as for your very kind comments accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 20:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]