User talk:Rowlan

Welcome to my official Talk Page! If you post something stupid like "Welcome, here are the five pillars of...blah blah blah" I'll probably delete it. Have the gumption (I was going to say, balls, but that might be offensive to women and men who have had heavy machinery accidents) to leave a real message. Oh yes, and please put a heading with your message...it makes it easier to navigate... Cheers,

Rowlan 15:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about the Rugby Super League

Do you know if the Rugby Super League is semi-pro or completely ameture?--Snoopy753 16:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Thanks for your help. I am new to the sport in the US despite the fact that I am a life long NYer. I have been watching for years (mostly international matches). This upcoming season I will be playing for the Village Lions RFC in NYC. Anyway, best of luck in the upcoming season.--Snoopy753 12:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

==ello aright mate...Stuey here (of the RoyalBlue variety). Just dropped by to say hello. C'mon Waterloo!!!!! RoyalBlueStuey 09:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

G'day mate

G'day mate, realised you're a rugby fan, would you be interested in joining WikiProject AFL? Cheers, Rogerthat 00:37, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rowlan

Hi Rowlan. In response to your questions (I've numbered them in the same way):

Technically, O'Rothlain isn't a true anglicized name. It's the original Gaelic name, spelt in the style of Irish names in the English language (i.e. using an apostrophe after the O and not using diacritics - and as you probably know from your own research, pronounced "oh roh-len/oh rowlan" in Irish). Books and websites etc written in English on Irish genealogy (especially those originating outside of Ireland) often tend to avoid using Irish language diacritics on names, mostly for stylistic reasons. Compare the contemporary comedian Dara Ó Briain, who is usually credited as Dara O Briain or Dara O'Briain at gigs or on TV in Britain.
Irish names are usually very systematic, and from the name it is evident that Ó comes from the Irish Ua, meaning grandson or descendant. The word that follows Ó will go into the genitive, and to return a word of the sort that "Rothlain" is to the standard nominative, the i before the end is removed. I must admit that the translation might not be perfect, as I'm not sure whether Rothlan is just a name - it could be a title, occupation or something else. But the name does mean "grandson/descendant of [whatever Rothlan means]". I can't find "rothlan" in my Irish dictionaries, but I have found "Rothlán/Róithleán" (wheel!), and doing a bit of Googling, I'm finding that Ó Rothlain might not be the most correct Gaelic spelling - this link seems to give the name "Ó Rothláin", but whether it is the same name at all, I can't say. I could just be barking up the wrong tree! But at any rate, the name does mean "descendant of Rothlan/what 'rothlan' means". --Kwekubo 00:03, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - my main source for the information on "Ó" and "Rothlán" is Foclóir Gaeilge-Béarla (editor Niall Ó Dónaill) - An Gúm, 1977, Dublin.

Arbcom candidate userbox

Greetings. I've made a new userbox for arbcom candidates to show on their userpages so that visiters will know they're running.

{{User arbcom nom}}

If you'd like to place it on your userpage, feel free. Regards, – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 02:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Irish User Boxes

Hi, Thanks for that. Dlyons493 Talk 20:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Guinness logo.png

This image is fair use and therefor is not allowed ouside the article namespace.Geni 21:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union

I've noticed you editing a rugby union page and your user page says that you like rugby union. Recently a project has been set up to try to improve the quality of the rugby union articles in Wikipedia. If you are interested in joining follow the link. We currently have nine members.GordyB 14:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging Image:ODriscollvbath.jpg

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Thanks for citing a source, but now the photo needs a proper license. If you want to keep it on Wikipedia, you will need to make a fair use claim by placing the tag {{Fair use in}} and writing below why you think it qualifies for fair use. Am I a copyright nazi? Perhaps, but I love pictures when they're free. Violating copyrights compromises the integrity of Wikipedia. -SCEhard T 02:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Ireland Templates

I've developed templates for those people who believe that (a) Northern Ireland should remain British, and for those who beleive that(b) Northern Ireland should merge with Eire. Template:User Northern Ireland Unionist Template:User United Ireland Republican. What do you think? Expatkiwi

Rugby Portal

Hi Rowlan, hope I didn't seem to snarky on the Green comment, good on you for taking the initiative and starting the portal. I'll try to contribute from time to time. See you round Lisiate 23:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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NI User template

I thought it was mildly clever myself. But I thought I'd bring it in line with the other regions. The pic is still there to create another alternative NI user template though. --Mal 15:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration

Cheers for doing the Fortnightly Collaboration page. I was hoping someone would pitch in with the Portal! Let's hope the Leaguer's catch up or Union might have a far better rep on Wiki.

-Rowlan 06:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I was looking at some of the rugby union articles and they are not up to par. If you have a look at {{Rugby06}}, their is quite a few articles that require writing up. --Hamedog^Talk|@ 06:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:RugbyPortal

Template:RugbyPortal has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.--cj | talk 01:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having a little difficulty understanding this as I'm not too sure how the mechanics of the Portal work. AFAIK a template should only be used for something used more than once. I think there should be a way to duplicate the effects of the template without actually using a template.GordyB 16:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've copy / pasted the template code into the portal so that it looks exactly the same as before only it does not use the template. No reason not to delete it now unless you can think of another use for it.GordyB 16:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with GordyB. The portal looks fine without the template. I can't see how it would be useful anywhere else either so may as well delete it. Lisiate 22:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are a wanker. There is no need to delete this template. Rowlan 15:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps after revising our policies regarding personal attacks and civility, you may care to retract that comment.--cj | talk 06:45, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How did I Respond???

You Have Frustrated me to an extent that would normally make me feel like making a personal attack on said offender, but after a careful reminding of policy, code, ethics, and standards I shall refrain from such childish lashings and state my case in simple, understandable, non-offensive terms: There is no need to delete this template.

Rowlan 17:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did nothing to aggravate you. And if you had paid due attention to the TfD you'd have noticed that there is indeed reason to delete this template; there was no need for one in the first place, hence subst then delete.--cj | talk 03:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is wrong with every one

i am probably gonna get a lot of bitchin because of this but, why is it that everyone freaks out over some one screwing around? this is not a very acurate source either. i have found major errors and i know other people who have as well. WHy do you all take this so seroiusly? Is this your life? Is this like your favorite thing to do? What is wrong with all of you?Dogblue 22:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue[reply]

This is not the place for this type of discussion. And, we're all freakin' ourselves out cause this is a damn encyclopedia made for people to see, not a message board forum. Weirdy 02:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging Image:UlsterRugbyBall.jpg

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The source you gave implies that image is not free. ed g2s • talk 19:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saints Wikiproject

I noted that you have been contributing to articles about saints.

You are invited to participate in Saints WikiProject, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about saints. We are currently discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks! --evrik 16:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging

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Thanks for uploading:

I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Rights

"The secondary agenda was to have the term "Irish-American" available as an option in any form that required one to state his/her ethnic identity."

I am curious if this was successful. 75.3.4.54 06:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up

Please provide a link to where you obtained Image:Nhswwscrum.jpg. Just quoting "Flickr" is not enough. Also please do not upload copyright images of items for which a free alternative could easily be obtained, such as the rugby ball and the pint of Guinness, as this is not fair use. You are also not allowed to use fair use images in templates (WP:FUC). Thanks, ed g2s • talk 15:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After notification from the copyright owner, I've deleted this image and Image:Leedstykestry.jpg. These were both originally licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution - No Commercial Use - No Derivatives license, which is not the same as the Creative Commons Attribution license, and not a "free" license in that we can't create derivative works and we can't use it in commercial contexts. As such, it's not free per the Image use policy, and we can't use it.

Please be more careful with the licenses when uploading images in future. Shimgray | talk | 22:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Top 14

Sorry Rowlan, I know you would have put some time into them, and I'm not opposed to them at all, I just removed the template from Stade Francais, Biarritz and Toulouse as it wasnt complete and was showing up a lot of {{ }} etc gaps. The codes you used to create the kits are still in the history so they can be taken, but the template will need to be tweaked, and all teams should have them, not just three. But it is a good idea. Cvene64 14:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby League

Just wondering if you still are looking for a Rugby League ball picture. I can take a picture of my ball, however it is a bit worn in and has a big Cowboys logo across it, I can do that ASAP. If you are looking for a picture of a nice new Rugby League ball, give me a bit of time and I'll try and get that for you. Also out of interest, what are you using it for and if you support Rugby League. JRA WestyQld2 07:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

State of Origin 3 was a great game (being a Queensland supporter :-P)I'll try and get a picture for you as soon as I can. JRA WestyQld2 03:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I know someone who did get a picture of one, here is an official Steeden Rugby League ball --JRA WestyQld2 02:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rugby league ball.jpg

Wow looks amazing! I better put it on my watchlist and start contributing --JRA WestyQld2 09:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Leedstykeslineout.jpg

Hi, I noticed you emailed the author of the above image and had him licence it under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Licence. Unfortunatly this is not free enough for Wikipedia. The most simular licence that is suitable for use Wikipedia would be a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike Licence. Could you see if the author will release the image under this licence please, otherwise the image will be deleted. Alexj2002 13:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The licence you selected from the list was "This image is licensed under the Creative Commons

Attribution ShareAlike License v. 2.5:". This is not the same as Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike, which is what the image actually is. We can't use Non Commercial pictures on Wikipedia. Alexj2002 12:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:UlsterRugbyBall.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:UlsterRugbyBall.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. When you use a generic fair use tag such as {{fair use}} or {{fair use in|article name}}, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Unspecified source for Image:Leedsrhinosscrum.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Leedsrhinosscrum.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Image:Irelandscall.png

Would you mind explaining two things to me:

Firstly how an image can be licenced as both GFDL and as being in the public domain.
Secondly how a still taken from a television broadcast can be licenced either of the above.

Alexj2002 10:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well technically I didn't delete it, an admin reviewed my suggestion it be deleted and agreed. On a more serious note, the image was as you state, an image from a television broadcast. This would mean it was not GFDL or Public Domain but copyrighted. As such we could only use it on Wikipedia if we could claim fair usage on it. Criteria number one that must be met to claim fair use is "No free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information.". Seems as a person at an Ireland game could take a photo of the anthems being played, and then licence it under a free licence, I believe that a free equivalent can be created and therefore the deleted image cannot be used under a claim of fair use. As a final point, I notice this is far from the first image you've uploaded that's been deleted, and from your message on my talk page ("It's a screen capture...what's it supposed to be liscenced under?") can I suggest you take a few moments to read through WP:UPIMAGE and WP:FU. Alexj2002 21:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Possible renaming of Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints

It has been suggested that the above named project be renamed Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian saints. Please express your opinion on this proposed renaming, and the accompanying re-definition of the scope of the project, here. John Carter 17:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TheRugbyForum

Hey O'Rothlain, You may not recognise my name but I'm also on TheRugbyForum as PeeJay. Didn't know you were a Wikipedian too :-D PeeJay 11:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unspecified source for Image:Andrew_farrell.jpg

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