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The following is being developed as an attempt to start up Project Time. I welcome new participants and contributions to the discussion. -- FrankP 09:36, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Current state of the project

Basically, very early days.

For now the aims are:

  1. Assessment phase to examine the current state of treatment for time-related issues across Wikipedia.
  2. Implementation when we are in a position to formulate and implement an appropriate action plan.

The project's work is essentially confined to this Talk page during the assessment phase.

Project elements

Time - main article

Time has many aspects. The central article Time should either cover these directly or link to other subsidiary articles. We can regard time in these ways:

  • philosophically
  • historically, i.e. the measurement of historical events using dates
  • intellectual history of time - how time has been perceived in the past
  • scientifically, i.e. the physics of time
  • socially, i.e. the part played by time in society
  • religiously

It seems that the Time page is a magnet for people offering incoherent philosophical ramblings. Perhaps there need to be a parallel page Nonsense of Time to collect this stuff and keep it out of the way.

Subsidiary articles

  • intellectual history of time
  • Philosophy of time
  • Physics of time
  • Measurement of time


Other articles affected

Calendars and Dates

As far as historical dates go, we should use (and I expect most pages do use?) the Common Era as a standard reference, and check that explanatory articles for other Calendars are consistently linked together.

Related projects

Some work has already been done by Wikipedia:WikiProject Years and Wikipedia:Timeline standards. There is a structure (not necessarily complete) of pages relating to specific years, decades, centuries and millennia. There are explanatory articles about the Gregorian calendar, and pages for other calendar systems such as Muslim and Jewish. There are pages explaining the confusion over year zero and the difficulties of extending calendars back before their founding epoch.

There are also potential projects called Wikipedia:WikiProject Decades, Wikipedia:WikiProject Centuries, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Millenia but they have not been started.

Templates and metalevel

The metalevel relates to work based in the wikipedia namespace rather than the main namespace. That is, the metalevel is about coordination with other projects like Years, and with the generation of any necessary templates that can be used in articles.

There are existing templates for years, and decades, millennia, etc. (check exactly what exists)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 00:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:25, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Birth by date hierarchy

There has previously been an attempt to create a temporal hierarchy based on date of birth in addition to the existing hierarchy based on year of birth. This initiative was however strangled in its birth about a year ago. Would there be any support for a renewed initative from members of this WikiProject? On the Norwegian (nynorsk) Wikipedia such a hierarchy exists and seems to be both innocuous and well-functioning. __meco 10:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Relationship to other Projects

I note that Physics, Astronomy, and Philosophy have also claimed Time. How is that all supposed to work? DCDuring 19:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

Sundials

I just created Man Enters the Cosmos. I placed it in Category:Sundials which I found to be a category in need of creation. I have created the category. However, I do not know sundials, so I just placed a few articles and all the images in the sundials article in the category. I am hoping someone who knows the most famous, important, valuable, oldest, innovative, or demonstrative sundials could place them in this category. I am assuming that WP has other articles on notable sundials that I do not know about. I just don't know any myself.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Timeline Tracer

Should not the relation to Wikipedia:WikiProject Timeline Tracer be established an outlined on the project page? __meco 16:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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