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Butte or Silver Bow?

Talk moved from: User:Maveric149/Images - Cities

The Butte, Montana page here has problems as the census data for Butte and Silver Bow County, Montana are mixed in some strange way because the County and City share one government called Butte-Silver Bow. They look like Butte to me, I've driven through there many times on the way to Helena, Montana. The "M" on the mountain in the right one is for Montana Tech, which is in Butte. -- RTC 01:45 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info! Should these photos go on Silver Bow County, Montana then? --mav

Copying part of the material I put on User talk:Ram-Man:

"Well, I think I may have it, but I am only about 90% sure as there are things that still don't make sense.

Butte-Silver Bow, Montana and Butte-Silver Bow (balance), Montana are identical and are probably the data for the town of Butte itself.
Silver Bow County, Montana and Butte-Silver Bow (town), Montana are identical and are the data for the combined City/County of Butte-Silver Bow."

Confusing, isn't it? I think they belong in a Butte, Montana article, but that will be difficult to write until the above 4 articles (and maybe others) are untangled. -- RTC 21:00 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yes! I have it now. The area data that didn't make sense before now does. Apparently when the Butte City government merged with the Silver Bow County government to form the single entity of Butte-Silver Bow, it appears that Butte annexed ALL of the unincorporated land remaining in the county. So for all practical purposes (except for a few small towns that were already incorporated) the city of Butte now fills Silver Bow County. Somewhat like San Francisco, California completely fills San Francisco County, California, but without containing other separately incorporated towns in the county. -- RTC 17:08, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Everyone I have ever met who has lived in Butte for an extended amount of time is seriously missing some marbles. I think most other Montana residents would agree that Butte natives have a reputation for being trash. I think it's something in the water, heavy metals or something. I think the article should reflect this, but I'm not sure how exactly. LOL. --Helena Resident, 2 May, 2005.

I think you are just saddened by the fact the Butte by itself has won over 1/3 of all state HS fooball championships. I bet you're not begging for that fact to be put in the article. ;)

No more Montana residents would agree that Butte natives are trash than would agree that Helena natives are dumb, rich, tree-huggers. Stereotypes and opinions aren't what I would consider good encyclopedia fodder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.233.176 (talk) 00:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As a child of a Butte native and former Butte resident myself, I can say that that is certainly not the case, and I imagine those more easily offended than I would take offense to that. Kukuman 18:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Editing resources and local attractions. I am a new editor so please let me know if you see any mistakes! Kirbyple

Suggest moving the Copper Kings section to separate article

I'm not prepared to update the text fully, but I feel the need to copy & paste the section on the three men to a separate article, as they are historically important figures. I've decided to do this, but suspect I may be violating copy/paste rules, even though it's from one Wikipedia page to another. I'll add new content to both as well. Tell me what you think. Astro jpc 23:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Butte Rats link

The link to the forum is not an official community link. It's just an online forum, that by Wikipedia standard guidelines really doesn't belong on in this article. Not to mention that there is a link to The Montana Standard allready. I would recomend placing it in Wiki Travel instead. Rsm99833

Largest Superfund Site

Can the reference to the largest superfund site be verified, deleted or qualified. Tar Creek in Oklahoma also claims itself as the largest superfund site, encompassing 50 sq miles. The closest I've found is :http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2002/March/02_enrd_180.htm which indicates it is the superfund site with the largest body of contaminated water in the United States. Bangfrog 21:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check the EPA records on this being the largest Superfund site. It is THE megasite, being so large that it was split into three smaller sites, each a megasite in itself: (1) Butte (including the Butte hill, Berkeley Pit, Silver-Bow Creek, and several smaller associated Operable Units); (2) Anaconda (including smelter hill, Old Works smelter, community soils, and several smaller associated Operable Units); and (3) Milltown (including the dam, towns of Milltown and Bonner, and Clark Fork River). The total length of this upper Clark Fork River basin megasite is about 120 miles, and the Superfund corridor along this length ranges from a few to over 20 miles wide. See map [1]. EcoRover 19:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Butte Labor History

Any accounting of Butte's history is very incomplete without an account of the poor working conditions in it's mines, the Granite Mountain Mine disaster, and the labor activism and Anaconda company violence that followed - particularly the IWW organizing, and the Frank Little assasination and aftermath. This absence is so glaring that the POV of the article is called into question. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.115.9.254 (talk) 20:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I agree, and filled a similar lack regarding Superfund. Someone familiar with labor history needs to fill this gap! EcoRover 19:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable People from Butte

Lucille Ball was born in and raised near Jamestown, NY. Jamestown is in Western NYS, which isn't anywhere near NYC.
Lucille Ball
IMDB
Official Site Moggsy 17:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilinks

See WP:MOS-L -- linking years throughout the article is adding noise, not context. And that would be bad enough if they were only Wikilinked once, and not repetitively as was the case in this article. --Walor 16:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fire & Brimstone

Tells the tale of The North Butte Mining Disastor, & Manus Duggan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.159.176.57 (talk) 18:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Open Containers

The copy early on points out that Butte is the 'only city' where open containers of liquor are allowed at any time, which it footnotes FIVE times, but the source is always the same newspaper. In fact, except during Prohibition, the City of New Orleans has never had a closed container law! Further,in the State of Louisiana, you can have an open container in your car, so long as it is in the possession of a passenger and not the driver. I'm not recommending it, merely pointing out that newspaper editors are not necessarily very good sources of information when you're talking about their home town and such words as 'highest, lowest, most, only, least, unique, outstanding,...' Lamabillybob 15:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the line once, when the only source was what is now ref. #5, a statement to the reporter by a man on the street. #5 is still not a reliable source. Geologyguy 15:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation?

Bute? But? Butty? Rothorpe (talk) 23:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One syllable, Byut, u as in you, silent e. Rhymes with cute.Geologyguy (talk) 03:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]