Talk:List of best-selling game consoles/Archive 2

Annual Reports

If anyone can find the annual reports for Nintendo (from the early to mid 1990's) or Sony and Microsoft (specifically for the game divisions - any time period), those would be extremely helpful in more accurately determining system sales. Most of the Nintendo hardware sales are based on Annual Reports and thus are extremely accurate. Zomic13

Updating Stats

When updating stats, please remember to update them in both places (under the company's listing and in the Total Sales Ranking). Thanks! Zomic13

Sega's Systems

What is the source for any of this information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.239.14 (talk) 07:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

Sega System Figures could use some serious help. The figures that are present are from the individual Wikipedia pages for those systems. Unfortunately many of these figures were not cited on the system's article page either, which is why they are not cited here. If anyone can find figures for any of Sega's consoles from a reliable source, please update them here. Zomic_13 22:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Atari and Sony

From the source given for some of Sega's sales information, I found some interesting information on the Atari 2600. According to this, http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/game_consoles/source/3.htm, the Atari 2600 sold over 30 million units. Since this topic lists the best-selling consoles, wouldn't this be worth adding because the sales are higher than some of the systems here?

Also found there at, http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/game_consoles/source/14.htm, are updated shipping information for the PlayStation 2. There's updated shipping information for the PSP there, too. http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/game_consoles/source/19.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.239.14 (talk) 12:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

I am definitely in favor of adding Atari sales figures.Tehw1k1 (talk) 11:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Atari 2600 is already listed in both the "Video game and handheld consoles" and "Video game consoles" sections. --Silver Edge (talk) 16:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

This doesn't look right...

Sega - Mega CD - 1991 - 6 Nintendo - Wii - 2006 - 6.17

6.17 is greater than 6. Which is wrong, the ranking or the sales figure? David 21:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Gameboy Sales look too low

I have been looking at the VGChartz which shows the sales of each console and handheld, and the sales figures aren't matching up. It shows the Gameboy having sales at a worldwide total of 118 million.

http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php

I also looked and I couldn't find a reference for any of your current sales figures. So...? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.84.108.255 (talk) 08:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC).

The Game Boy total that you are referring to is the combination of the original Game Boy and the Game Boy Color. On this list they are listed as (Game Boy - 69.42 million) and (Game Boy Color - 49.54) for a total of 118.69 million. Zomic_13 14:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

VG Chartz are NOT a reliable site. They pull numbers out of their ass, and then silently fix them when the real numbers are announced. For past games and systems, they are usually way off since they are basically just guessing. I could make up a number for a game and it would be just as reliable as their number. TJ Spyke 03:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Total Sales Ranking should go

Here's why: some numbers are units shipped, some are units sold; some are extremely up-to-date, some are months or maybe even years (for the older systems) old. Therefore, it is impossible for the comparison to be completely accurate. Anyone else support removing it? -Unknownwarrior33 03:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Console Sales Rankings

We have a section for total sales rankings, then heandhelds, then the manufacturers sysems themselves. So shouldn't we have a console section only as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.68.25.77 (talk • contribs)

TurboGrafx-16

Shouldn't the TurboGrafx-16's sales be on the total sales charts?

Shipped?

I think that at the very least this page should have a disclaimer about the term "shipped". Right now, at a Best Buy near me, there are about 15-20 PS2s just sitting there. Imagine 15-20 PS2s sitting at every Best Buy in America and 10 PS2s at every Circuit City in America. 1800 BB stores * 17.5 + 800 CC stores * 10 = 323000 potentially unsold PS2s that were shipped, plus however many unsold PS2s are sitting at EBgames, Gamestop, Fry's, online warehouses, etc. While not a giant number, I think that such a phrase is VERY misleading, especially when you consider the PSP, which has been out for very little time.Kakomu 13:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

New numbers

GameSpot has a nice article with the sales information of several consoles. -- ReyBrujo 02:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, now there is a bunch of conflicting sales numbers. Take for example, PS3 is listed with 4.28 million units sold in this article as reported by Sony, but the report from the Financial Times in the GameSpot and GameDaily BIZ articles states 3.7 million PS3s sold. So which number should be used, the sales number from the company that manufactures the console or a "report which is based on sales figures from Enterbrain in Japan, The NPD Group in the U.S. and GfK of Germany in Europe"?

The GameSpot article also states sales numbers that are lower than the numbers listed in this article (for the SNES, Sega Mega Drive/Genesis, Dreamcast, and Xbox).

In the GameSpot article, does, "The Mario Factory's previous console, the N64, was trounced by the then-upstart original PlayStation, selling an estimated 29.8 million to 85.7 million units through April 2007," mean the N64 sold an estimated 29.8 million and the PS1 sold an estimated 85.7 million? Should the estimated sales numbers for the N64, PS1, and PS2 in the GameSpot article be used? --Silver Edge 04:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

From the GameSpot article:

According to Wedbush Morgan Securities estimates, the still-in-production PS2 sold 112 million units internationally as of April 2007. By comparison the now-discontinued Xbox and GameCube sold 23.1 million and 22.1 million units, respectively. Launched in late 1998, the Sega Dreamcast only sold 8.5 million units worldwide during its short lifetime.
The Mario Factory's previous console, the N64, was trounced by the then-upstart original PlayStation, selling an estimated 29.8 million to 85.7 million units through April 2007. The SNES sold 46.5 million units, versus the Sega Genesis' 25.8 million units.

Doesn't that mean all the previous generations' console sales numbers are estimates by Wedbush Morgan Securities? --Silver Edge 04:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Please may EVERY BODY look at the seventh generation page before editing these important sales figures !!! Animal91X 17:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

LIST ALL THE CONSOLES

INSTEAD OF GOING TO SPECIFIC ARTICLES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A CERTAIN CONSOLE COST THAT DID NOT SELL HIGH ITD BE EASIER TO HAVE THEM ON THIS CONVENIENT LIST. OF COURSE THIS ARTICLE WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO LIST OF SALES OF VIDEOGAME CONSOLES THAT MAY EXCLUDE UNOFFICIAL AND OR PIRATE CONSOLES OR ONES THAT MADE INSIGNIFICANT SALES LIKE UNDER 100000. ITD BE LIKE THIS ARTICLE IS NOW EXCEPT LONGER LISTINGS FOR MORE CONSOLES. I PROPOSE A VOTE TO THIS ALTHO I DOUBT IT WILL GO ANYWHERE IN A COMMUNITY THATS SLOW TO CHANGE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.17.249 (talk) 15:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Strongly Oppose - This should definitely not include unofficial or pirate consoles. The list should just contain the best-selling consoles and not every one that ever existed. Also, if you really want to be taken seriously don't rant in all caps, use actual English, and include more than one period in your paragraph. -Zomic13 17:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Add dates!

This list should add dates for figures. Otherwise it's worthless for the seventh gen at least. Figure for PS3 is about three million and several months out; Wii, five million and several months.......yet up to date and about right for the 360 (based on industry published figures)! 86.17.211.191 (talk) 02:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Caveat in opening para

I have added a caveat vis-a-vis figures and their date points. For the seventh generation in particular, the figures are misleading (or obsolete at least) without this caveat as visitors would assume they are contemporary (relying on endnoted links is insufficient). They are months out of date for the Wii and PS3. If this is an encyclopaedia then in a situation where facts are presented but need to be qualified and dated then that should be made explicit.

An argument can be made for modifying this caveat to state that the latest quarterly figures are due soon, and subesequently the page will be brought up to immediate date. But the caveating should always be clear. 86.17.211.191 (talk) 12:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

First 18 months of PSP sales missing

Why does the figure for the PSP exclude half its life of sales? I remember seeing NPD figures in late 2007 suggesting sales in the low 20s of millions area. 86.17.211.191 (talk) 12:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I smell a rat: the PSP's own page has no problem citing 25m+ shipped..... -- 86.17.211.191 (talk) 20:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)