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March 27

Wi-Fi and Wi-Max Ownership

My name is Dereck T. Dodson, I am the Original Owner and Founder of Aluminati. My concern surrounds your article on "Wi-Fi". I am the Original creator of the Wi-Fi and Wi-Max frequencies. This information can be confirmed at the New York Attorney General's Office with New York Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo who is also the head of the U.S. Organized Crime Task Force and a blood relative of mine. I took six years setting up a timeline of my entering the Wi-Fi/Wi-Max frenqencies to the Maryland University Science Lab in early 2006 with the New York Attorney General's Office as a safeguard for my rights. My Corporation Mason Inc. In Switzerland is the primary financier of every Government Worldwide as well as every College and University. My Corporation Merrick Inc. in Sweden registered in Switzerland is the primary inancier of every Science Laboratory Worldwide College, University, and Private Labs which is why I chose Maryland University Science Lab in College Park Maryland. I have sent in my frequency to the Library of Congress but have yet to get my registration number and Official Seal. I read your article and found it to be "dancing around the truth" and fact of my identity. Please correct your article post haste.

You'll have to provide us with a reliable source for that information, and one that we can reasonably verify without contacting Mr. Cuomo. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Hi Dereck. Changes to articles are usually best made on the article's talk page - if you go to the article, right up the top of the page you should see a tab marked "discussion". Click on that, then click on the "+" tab to add a new section. On Wikipedia, article content needs to be verifiable, so it would be great if you had any links, ISBNs or Library of Congress numbers to sources that detail your involvement, as they will aid editors who are willing to help you. It would probably also be a good idea to take a quick look at Wikipedia's guidelines on making legal threats and editing an article where you have a conflict of interest, not because you have in either case - far from it, you appear to have been doing things perfectly by the book - but because when you are involved with the subject of an article they are risks you have to be wary of. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Create an article

How I can create an article.--195.229.127.124 (talk) 00:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Why my title has been deleted.--195.229.127.124 (talk) 00:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:1ST may be a good starting point. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 00:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

(ec) You can submit your article to articles for creation or you can register an account and create it yourself. I can't tell you why your title was deleted without knowing what and where it was. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I've taken a look at your contributions, and in the past couple of days you have added the name "Sarmad Akhtrabadi" to List of Urdu poets several times. Please read up on edit warring and the three revert rule, which essentially say that you must not repeatedly add, remove or change content against consensus, and doing so could get you blocked. In general, lists such as this article only contain entries that either have an article, or are likely to get one, so please consider creating an article on Sarmad before adding him to the list again - and make sure the article satisfies WP:Notability or it will be deleted. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

General WikiProject help

Resolved

As a new user (only about 1000 edits), I have yet to join a WikiProject. I would like to know the following: exactly what are the criteria expected of a new member of any wikiproject (such as food, India, or Artemis Fowl) and what are the obligations of being a part of one? Sorry about my ignorance :-). Thanks, GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 00:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Addendum: I have stricken out part of my statement as being in extremely bad taste. Please do not consider it. Thanks. GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 00:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, you its not that much of a commitment. Sign up if you really like it, but you can always take your name off the list if you don't like it. Anyone can be a member of a Wikiproject including a new editor. If you are looking for WikiProjects that need attention, head over to the community portal, or go to WikiProject Long Island. Nothing444 00:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

In general, very little. Being a member of a Wikiproject just means that you identify as someone who would like to help improve articles that come under that project's scope. They have varying levels of structure, usually based on their size (the Military project I believe has quite a complicated one compared to others that are practically just a bunch of people), but most of the ones I know of don't have any kind of rules that say "you must edit these articles in this way to stay in the project". Think of it more as being a way to stay informed on articles that you might be able to help out on. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the advice! GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 00:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

See WP:PROJGUIDE for some information about organizing a WikiProject. That might have something useful about one's "obligations" as a WikiProject member (I put "obligations" in quotes because Wikipedia is an all-volunteer project, so nobody is obligated to do anything other than adhere to the policies and guidelines when we do decide to do something. Perhaps "opportunities" is a better word). Also see WP:DEADLINE. By the way, I don't see anything distasteful about indicating your approximate edit count. Including one's edit count with a Help desk question helps volunteers adjust their responses accordingly. Someone with 1000 edits probably knows more about Wikipedia than someone with 10 or fewer edits, so two different types of responses would be appropriate. Since Wikipedia is different than anything most people have experienced before, many brand-new users may have misconceptions about Wikipedia; an experienced editor usually understands more about how things work here. The collaborative nature of Wikipedia requires everybody to work with other users at all levels of experience, so it is helpful to know what experience level one is working with in a given interaction. --Teratornis (talk) 03:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Creating an article

how do I create a whole new article?

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Xenon⁵⁴ 00:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Where are you?

Recently I've kept the Wikipedia:Help desk on my watchlist (need all the help I can get.)

The page is still on my list. But sometime between now and two hours ago, updates have stopped being displayed on my watchlist.

??? Something weird has happened. Wanderer57 (talk) 02:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Whatever the problem was, it has gone away again. Wanderer57 (talk) 02:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

How to find if there's a sockpuppet

How do I discover if one "user" is the sockpuppet of another, please? Or is this just for admins. Julia Rossi (talk) 02:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I would start by reading everything under WP:EIW#Sock_p. As I have never done this myself, I don't know how easy it is to identify sockpuppets. It probably depends on how smart the sock puppeteers are. --Teratornis (talk) 03:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

A relative handful of admins (called checkusers) have the ability to see what IP address was being used when a logged in user made an edit. They can also check what logged in users were using a specified IP address. You can request a checkuser look at a set of accounts to check. However, the privacy of a user's IP address is considered very important, and these are only used in cases of severe disruption from multiple users in the same area of Wikipedia. Aside from that, there is no standard or absolute way to identify a sockpuppet; you just have to analyze two accounts and see what similarities you can find. Obviously, you start by looking to see if they edit the same articles, similar topics, if they have similar edit summaries, similar word choice, similar persistent typos, if they commonly !vote in the same XFDs or strawpolls, and vote the same way at that. People also look for editing at similar times of day, or never editing at the same time of day (some sockpuppeteers have been accused of dodging checkuser by having a "work account" and a "home account" so their socks use different IPs and never edit at the same time). There is even a place to alert the project to possible sockpuppet situations. And possibly most important, assume good faith and don't go hunting for evidence (not that we'd know) unless there's already reason to suspect. Someguy1221 (talk) 03:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. All very helpful. No, I noticed separate users were causing concern, but had the same kind of language. When others began talking about socks of this and that account it seemed something was obvious that I was missing. Happy to be that way really, cheers Julia Rossi (talk) 05:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Problem with interface

I am having problems with Special:SpecialPages, when I click on it, all that's displayed is a blank screen. Is it broken? NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 02:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I get a blank page too. I haven't seen that one before. --Teratornis (talk) 03:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

PrimeHunter reported it on WP:VPT#Special:SpecialPages is blank. That page probably gets the attention of more technical types who might fix the problem. Or they might see the problem here. --Teratornis (talk) 03:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Special:SpecialPages is working again. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio or not?

I've been going over Richard Widmark's films, in tribute, and a bunch of the plots seem to be copied word for word from Turner Classic Movies. I've replaced several, e.g. Pickup on South Street, Garden of Evil, Run for the Sun, and have found more, e.g. Road House vs here. But before I continue, how do I check if permission has been granted for this, or if maybe a TCM contributor copied the text from here? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It was added by User:Thismightbezach, and I doubt there was permission. I'm going to look into this further to see if it's a chronic problem, and also try to verify whether the material appeared first here or there; TCM has a 2008 copyright notice, so it's unclear whether they copied us. I've also brought this up on ANI. Someguy1221 (talk) 03:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Navbox below background color

I have transcluded the following four templates into numerous templates using the below= command within navboxes: Template:NFL Draft template list, Template:NBA Draft template list, Template:Playboy Playmate template list, & Template:Swimsuit Issue template list The templates are without a specified background. The navbox has a background that that it puts in the below areas. Is it possible to override this. Preferably with one command at the source template as opposed to one at each point of transclusion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 04:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Image editing

Does anyone have the software to erase the website from the bottom of this logo with matching blue?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 04:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I just did it with MS paint easily enough. I'm not sure if we're allowed to alter fair use images like that, though. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Since McCain uses a logo with the same website on the bottom, I will just leave it then.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 04:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

publish

How to publish article on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.99.117.194 (talk) 04:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Articles aren't published per se on Wikipedia, they are collaboratively written by multiple users and created/started by one author. Unfortunately, IP addresses (unregistered users) cannot create articles themselves, but can request them at articles for creation. You may way wish to create an account. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 04:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

And if you choose to create an account, you can start a new article. For help on this, please see Wikipedia:Your first article. Voyaging ^(talk) 04:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

article

i have created a new article after creating a account if that article is legal then when i will find it in Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.99.117.194 (talk) 06:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It will show up on Wikipedia immediately. It may be several days before other search sites, like Google, link to it. -- Kesh (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but your proposed article was declined Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Today#EtaStar. The reviewer said it read like an advertisment rather than an encyclopedia article. —teb728 t c 07:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

doubts

Hi there,

I have a doubt, I want to know how many wiki's are there in total? Cause recently heard it somewhere that there many different wiki's.... Is that true? Please help me with this am very confused..

Thanx & regards,

KateKatewilson (talk) 06:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a ton of different wikis out there, most of which are completely unrelated to Wikipedia. The main Wikimedia Foundation wikis all have the wikipedia.org address. Then there's World of Warcraft Wiki, Memory Alpha (a Star Trek wiki), Ubuntu Team Wiki… the list goes on and on. Since anyone can download the base software that Wikipedia runs and start their own wiki, a lot of people have! -- Kesh (talk) 06:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Meta-wiki contains lists of all of the official, Wikimedia Wikis. Such as List of Wikipedias, List of Wiktionaries, etc. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Of course, MediaWiki isn't the only Wiki software out there, either. For a small list of some of the wikis out there, there's List of wikis, and for something a bit bigger you can look at the somewhat confusingly named http://www.wikindex.org and http://www.wikiindex.org Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

wikiindex:Category:MediaWiki gives a count of 2475 public wikis that run on the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia. In addition, there are public wikis that nobody has indexed on WikiIndex yet, and many private wikis that the general public cannot see (e.g. corporate wikis and personal wikis), along with many more wikis that run on different wiki software. Wikipedia is the world's most popular wiki, but the world of wikis is very large, and growing fast. If you want to start your own wiki, see b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. --Teratornis (talk) 03:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Side note to Confusing Manifestation: I'm confused as to why http://www.wikindex.org gives me a Server not found error. Does that link work for you? --Teratornis (talk) 03:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you offer working while studying in National University?

Dear Sir/Madam:

I am a Filipina and a bachelor's degree holder and have more than eight(8) years of working in a business office. But because I really wanted to become a nurse, I want to ask from you if do you offer working while studying in National University. Please reply me with my email add: <removed> or mobile number <removed>.

I choose National University because I have researched of being excellent in Asia and aside from that, Singapore is very clean country and the people around are very warm, it is also near in Philippines.

I would appreciate your kindness and care. Have a nice day and Thank you.

Very truly yours,

Emily Jane Abellana <address removed for your protection> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.84.126.215 (talk) 07:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I belive you have us confused with another site. This is Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. We are not connected with any universities. Raven4x4x (talk) 08:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)\\

Looking for something to do

I just wrote an article on the 2006 South Dakota abortion referendum but I accidentally clicked the 'close' button, losing all my work. I'm looking for something to do, what can I do? I could help with some maintenance stuff. Valkyrian (talk) 09:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Please read this section on the article to find out how you can contribute to Wikipedia. Lradrama 09:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the frustration. Would it be in your online history, or was it a word doc? Julia Rossi (talk) 10:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I always suggest writing new articles in Wordpad, emacs, or whatever your preferred text editor is. It'll save you a lot of grief in the long run, since you can save your work locally just in case something like this happens. -- Kesh (talk) 21:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Spider life time

What is the average age of a spider before it dies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.186.82.64 (talk) 09:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Please use the Reference Desk for questions like this. The help desk is for Wikipedia-related questions only. Lradrama 09:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

You are at an encyclopedia. Before asking questions anywhere, why not look first in the most logical place for an answer: the encyclopedia itself. In this case, our article on spider has a separate section labeled lifespan.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Fools

What is wikipedia's policy on creating april fools day articles? Is it allowed? xxx User:Hyper Girl 12:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

No. Creating hoax articles is considered a form of vandalism, and can lead to the same ugly consequences as any other kind of vandalism to this project. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

However, if you have something clever that is not offensive you might put it in your user space. There are a number of amusing essays and mock-policy pages that live in user space that are a nice break from the sometimes stuffy rules-bound day-to-day wiki life. —Noah 14:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I would make a change to an article and change it back soon after. You might be warned about vandalism though.(But i'd do it anyway)

This page is highly enlightening on the April fools' "policy." Someguy1221 (talk) 17:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Replace current image option

Why am I not seeing the replace current image option at either Image:2102130452 fdf1e34434.jpg or Image:2101345479 5b9127e1ec.jpg? I realize I forgot to upload the largest file size of each.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 13:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The link is there, I see it. But why not upload the new pictures with more sensible filenames (now's the chance I mean), or even upload them to Wikimedia Commons instead. -- Sverdrup (talk) 14:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The image name is the one used at source on Flickr, also be careful with licensing ans ensure that you used the same license as that source, you use CC-by-3.0 but at flickr it 2.0. I agree you should upload free license images to Commons Gnangarra 14:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I have reuploaded with meaningful names. However, I am not a big flickr guy because I don't get licensing error messages and challenges and such from over there. I have posted the smaller files over there however if I recall correctly.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Also miss orphaned images messages at commons.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 14:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Commenting in article body bad form?

I've seen a couple instances where, instead of using the talk page, someone deletes text by commenting it out in the article body, sometimes adding additional commented explanations. Today I saw another case where a template was added to an article, with the only explanation for it commented out in the article body, so you never see it unless you happen to be looking at that spot in the edit box. Is this considered bad form? I find it kind of annoying. 66.152.245.18 (talk) 13:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

More often than not, text that is commented out in articles is in dispute, and is usually being talked about on the discussion page in the article. That way, when the discussion is over, the text is easier to recover. This isn't considered bad form. However, we occasionally do get people that will write comments in the article itself and even sign them; this is highly frowned upon. GlassCobra 13:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Formatting references

The references at the end of the Methuselah article are sqeezed onto the right-hand side of the page and I can't see how to fix it. Could someone have a look please? Thanks.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I made one minor change to the references tag but that wouldn't cause it to move from the right hand side of the page. Which raises the question: are you sure you meant "right-hand side of the page"? Are you using a non-english OS or browser? —Noah 14:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks it looks fine now. I should have mentioned I am using IE6.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Advantages of Silver Oak tree

Is it true that Silver Oak Tree emits Oxygen (O2)59.184.56.95 (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC) in nights also or it emits more oxygen then other trees?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 15:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

All photoautotrophs, that is, plants that conduct Photosynthesis, emit oxygen as a byproduct of that process.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Page Question

Hi,

An article I posted recently was deleted - I posted a question for the admin responsible, but seem not to have heard back yet (that was ten days ago).

My question is at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DragonflySixtyseven

- item 175, near the bottom. I'm a bit in the dark here - should I just continue to hope for a reply, or if not, what should I do to resolve whatever the problem was and get an entry for Sounds-Write Ltd established?

Many thanks, Garry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synthphon (talk • contribs) 16:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Not all editors/admins are available to respond in a timely fashion. Administrators are sometime exceptionally busy virtually. Also, editors in generally have lives outside of the wiki. You could pose your question again. Also, make sure you sign your posts. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)}

The article's deletion log will state a reason. What article was it? If it was tagged, a reason will be on your talk page. Please remember to sign your posts. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 16:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

According to the deletion log [1] it was deleted because it read like an advertisement - probably WP:CSD criteria G11. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 16:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The content of Sounds-Write was:

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Sounds-Write is a system of synthetic phonics. Training in this method, and resources such as children's reading books and interactive whiteboard software, are provided by the UK-based company Sounds-Write Ltd.

More information will be found on the company's website

The company's programme is also profiled on the UK government's education standards website

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This sounds like it was written to advertise for the company. If you are associated with the company then see Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. See also Wikipedia:Notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for the responses guys, this has helped a lot. I can see I'll have to rethink my approach a bit here. Cheers, Garry Synthphon (talk) 15:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

List of recent headers in article

Suppose I would want to make a list of the five most recently asked questions at this helpdesk. How could I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.94.122.175 (talk) 16:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there's any simple way to do this. If you have programming experience, you could write a script to strip out the last five sections with "<a name=... />" anchors; that should give you the five most recent questions. Sorry I can't be of more help. —P^urpleRA^IN 19:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Inserting an image 1/2 way

Hello. I am trying to insert an image 1/2 way down in an article. I am having trouble putting it in. Glenn Strange Thanks Electric Japan (talk) 17:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

See Help:Images and other uploaded files#Linking. What is the problem? I don't see any image attempt in your edits to Glenn Strange. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

publish my article

How do I make my user page my article? I created my article, then save my page and tried to look it up and it came up "no article by that name". Is there a step I am missing? Aamatrix (talk) 17:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Your user page does not belong to you, it's in the public domain once you start editing Wikipedia. If you search for your user page as an article it will not show up. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 17:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

If you want to find your user page by searching type in User:[your user name goes in here] and press enter! If you are logged on then you can click on your username in the top right corner of your screen.Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 17:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Then how do I create an article? I followed the instructions on Creating my first article and I created a user page instead of an article. I'm confused. Aamatrix (talk) 17:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

You can create an article by typing the title you want into the search box, clicking 'go', and clicking the red 'create this page' link. However, the contents of User:Aamatrix are not currently suitable as an article: it reads like advertising for the company concerned, rather than an encyclopedic article. It is also copied straight from the company's website, in violation of their copyright. There might be notability issues as well. A complete rewrite will be necessary if you want there to be an article on this company. Algebraist 18:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

What I suggest is to create the article in a sandbox of your user space. In other words, something like User:Aamatrix/articlenamehere. Once you've finished writing your article, and feel it's good enough for the encyclopedia, you can click on the Move tab at the top of the page and move it from User:Aamatrix/articlenamehere to articlenamehere, which will put it in the main article space where everyone can find it. -- Kesh (talk) 21:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Changing the title line of a page - how?

Please let me know how to change the title or header of the page. Nicole Johnson Baker - is the title on the page. The name needs to be Nicole Johnson. (Baker was removed legally through divorce.) 18:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LaurenNJohnson (talk • contribs)

You can change the title of a page by moving it. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The account was created today and accounts must be 4 days old to move pages. I have moved it. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Headline text

I have just finished reading Wikipedia Signpost and I have a question about Single User Login. The news article states that "users will be asked to provide their password; this password and their e-mail address will be compared to those on other wikis; those that match will automatically be transferred." Does this mean then that wikipedia user's passwords can be viewed by the owners of wikipedia? It seems somewhat of a security risk if passwords can be viewed and compared so openly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madox5 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe they're stored as a salted hash (which is why SUL needs to ask you for you current password again). But the servers that host Wikipedia already have the capability to validate your password on each project. There is no additional exposure here. Bovlb (talk) 19:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Visitor numbers

how do i find out how many people have been to a certain page on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.27.118 (talk) 19:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Please sign future edits with four tildes (~~~~). Try this page here Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters...--Cameron (t/c) 19:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

This is on the FAQ. Try this site. Algebraist 20:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Adding to categories

Can I add a category to a hierarchical sequence of categories and their contituent articles?

For instance, can I add Category:Human cells to Category:Blood cells and Category:Leukocytes and Category:Granulocytes and to the Mast cell article?

I wouldn't necessarily want to add all the sub-cats, but if I did, would it break anything by creating category loops? I do want to add Category:Human cells to Category:Blood cells and to all the articles on (human) cells within that whole category tree. Will that work OK? Franamax (talk) 19:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Changes to existing categories can affect lots of articles, which in turn may affect lots of other editors, some of whom might disagree with the changes. Before poking at that potential hornet's nest, I would recommend reading the guidelines under WP:EIW#Cat, such as:

• Help:Category
• WP:CAT
• WP:SUBCAT
• Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization

The idea is for the help pages and guideline pages to document what to do in every situation that comes up on Wikipedia, so Wikipedia can function as a "self-service" site to the extent possible. I.e., everybody can read what to do and then do it, with a minimum of repeated discussion or second-guessing. If you find that the guidelines do not adequately cover your situation, then we may need to further edit the guidelines. The guidelines we have now represent the accumulated learning of all the previous editors who faced these problems in the past. That's a lot of accumulated learning. --Teratornis (talk) 20:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

For example, WP:SUBCAT says:

• In straightforward cases an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory.

Then the guideline page goes on to discuss exceptions, and how to determine if you have an exception. Let us know if reading the links I gave does not clear things up, and then someone can take a more detailed look. --Teratornis (talk) 20:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks TT, I'll review those links. I'm not sure if you followed through my example above, what I am trying to do is populate Category:Human cells, so I'm not really changing any existing categories (I think), nor am I wishing to add an article to both a category and a sub-category. Part 1 of my question was putting a category into a "category and its subcategory" and part 2 was about adding into the Category:Human cells all the articles which are about human cell types and also the top-level existing categories in which those articles reside. Basically, creating a directory to investigate all the types and categories of human cells, I don't want to change anything, just work on another way to slice the cube. Franamax (talk) 21:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I gave quick advice without studying the question in detail. I would suspect a category should also not be in both a category and its subcategory, but there could be exceptions. (On Wikipedia, we have strict rules for everything, except when they don't apply. Whenever that is.) Since you understand what you are trying to do better than anyone else, I'd suggest reading the guidelines carefully, and if the answer is not stunningly obvious, get back to us and someone will look at it. In general, my experience with reading guidelines has been pretty good, when I'm working on some problem and I understand the details. Usually someone else has already thought about and described almost every kind of problem that can come up. So I would be surprised if reading the guidelines doesn't clear things up for you. Regardless of what you decide to do, it's good to have the guidelines in hand, so you can defend your edits if someone challenges them. It helps to add links to the relevant guidelines in your edit summaries, as you probably already knew. Then other editors can link directly to whatever guideline informed your edit. That helps to avoid wasteful disputes, or at least put the dispute on informed ground. --Teratornis (talk) 03:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

San Francisco (Whitney's) playland at the Beach Carousel

Resolved

I can't find photos of the OLD carousel at Playland at the Beach SF. I see the new photos where the horses have all been painted white but I so long to see the photos of it when it was at playland. I rode this carousel every time I got the chance as the horses were different than other carousel horses- THEY WERE ARABIANS! SOME of these horses (the one I always rode) looked as if they stepped right of the pages of Walter Farley's BLACK STALLION & ISLAND Stallion books series!

Can you help me find the photos I so dearly need to see? PLEASE?

Heidi Çhristensen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.133.167.105 (talk) 20:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this page is for questions about how to use Wikipedia. You might find someone who can help you at the reference desk. -- Kesh (talk) 21:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Simple Spanish Wikipedia?

Do we have one? I just wanted to know because it would be useful in learning the language. I didn't see it on the front page, but I only skimmed for sencillo. Andrew Kanode (talk) 20:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The creation of a simple Spanish Wikipedia was opposed last year, largely on the argument that there is no formalized "simple" form of Spanish, unlike simple English. Someguy1221 (talk) 20:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

My userpage

Can anyone explain why the images in my userpage NavBar are not displaying correctly? - DiligentTerrier ^{and friends} 21:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It looks fine to me, but if they're displaying gigantically to you, you may be suffering from the ClickFix bug. There are a number of possible fixes listed on that page. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Filing A Lawsuit against you!!!

Thank you for resolving this issue. I NEED someone to contact me at <removed for privacy> I have asked repeatedly for you to remove an article about me that has false information that is the subject of a lawsuit and I am tired of still seeing these lies here. Please contact me so I can let my attorney-Jessie Castillo know whether to enjoin you in this lawsuit with The Express News and the City of Eagle Pass. Glen Starnes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.29.137 (talk) 21:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Libel for who to contact. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 21:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

(ec) The most we can do here is look at the article and make sure it conforms to our content policies (you would have to tell us what article it is). If you want to sue us, you'll have to contact the Wikimedia foundation, the entity that owns Wikipedia. No one on this desk has any authority to speak on the foundation's behalf, or to respond to legal complaints. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Presumably the article is Glen Starnes. —Bkell (talk) 22:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

First, threatening legal action is a bad idea. That shuts down dialogue between individuals and can get you blocked from editing Wikipedia. That said, the article Glen Starnes is essentially a coatrack for negative attacks on your person, so I have tagged it for speedy deletion as an attack page. -- Kesh (talk) 22:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Article has been deleted as a BLP violation. And per WP:NOT#NEWS (all of five days of local media coverage that I could find) and WP:BLP#1E, Glen Starnes should not have a Wikipedia article anyway. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Also got rid of the talk page, which contained more BLP violations against the subject. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 23:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

March 28

vCarding in Wikipedia - where is it at ?

What is the position and capabiltiy in Wikipedia regarding the automatic generation of vCards in articles, etc. ?

For example, {{Infobox Organization}} does not seem to comply with hCard ?

Pee Tern (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I doubt there's any capability of creating a vCard built into Wikipedia. Considering we don't keep any contact information for companies or persons anyway, I'm not sure what use it'd be. -- Kesh (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Anyone having a problem with the history or their watchlist?

Ok I am having this weird problem, when ever I check the history of an article or my watchlist. Basically when I go in there I can't click any of the links presented and instead there is like a giant link over everything that sends me to something random on my watchlist, I am just curios if anyone else is getting this problem or if anyone knows what this problem is. -- Phoenix₇₄₁(Talk Page) 00:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Username posts

I want to trick out my username (like the person above me), but I don't know how to. It would be away to much of a pain to keep typing in all the code every time. Is there some way to just stylize it and just type in the "~~~~". -- Jump Guru (talk) 00:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

In your Special:Preferences there is a space to put a coded signature and then click on use raw signature below it. WP:SIG has some info on it for you. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 01:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow! thanks! -- Jump Guru (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

-- JUMP GURU (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

• Felt like testing out my signature. -- JUMP GURU (talk) 21:44, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

How to I get to the Wikipedia top 100 viewed pages?

Title says it all,

how do i get to the wikipedia top 100 viewed pages from the main page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.88.118.18 (talk) 02:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

There are probably several link chains (see: Wikipedia:Six degrees of Wikipedia). Here's one, starting from any page, including the Main Page:

• Look on the left column links for: interaction | Help, to open the Help:Contents page.
• Scroll down the Help:Contents page to find: See also: Editor's index
• On the Editor's index, press Ctrl-f to search in your browser; type: Top 100; that finds two successive links:
  • Special:Longpages - top 1000 articles, sizewise
  • WikiCharts - top 100 (or 1000) most-viewed article in a specified month (not functioning as of early 2008)

You would want the second link, that is if it actually started working again. Unfortunately, this useful application looks to be still broken. Another option is to search the Help desk for: most viewed pages, as this question comes up fairly often. If you want to browse to certain pages frequently, you might consider making an account so you can add links to your User page which then will always be one click away after you log in. You can certainly edit your own list of favorite links to be more convenient than digging through the massive branching pile of links off the Main Page. --Teratornis (talk) 03:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Help on mainpage article rv vandalism

E. Urner Goodman is on the front page, and it doesn't have enough eyes on it reverting the usual mainpage vandalism. If a couple of people could put it on their watchlist that would be great. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 02:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Confused

Resolved

I made a page about an online game people played for 4 years and it got deleted and called non-sense. Four years of peoples life isnt non-sense. Why was it deleted without asking me what it was? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yello43 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Nonsense is an incorrect categorization. However, the page is, in fact, nearly empty. It is Wikipedia policy that pages consisting solely of an external link can be immediately deleted without discussion (WP:CSD#A3). If you want an article to not be deleted, you have to provide at least a modicum of information: What it is, and more importantly, how it's notable. It really helps to provide sources that talk about the game that weren't created by developers or fans of the game (reviews from gamer magazines or websites like GameSpot are the best for that sort of thing). You may be interested in Wikipedia:Your first article. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You basically answered your own question Dear Yello43 "Why was it deleted without asking me what it was?" If people need to ask you what it is, even after reading the article, than the article is simply not good enough to be included in wikipedia. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The page was Virtual Football League and the only content was "[www.habbo.com]". WP:CSD#A3 certainly applies as Someguy1221 said. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

HEY!!!

Hey boy I made a article called "Lil Trazk" and it was deleted!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive rapped hard so i deserve a page in wikipedia!!!!!!!! Stop deletin it!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil Trask (talk • contribs) 05:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You may want to read up on your first article and WP:ARTICLE for how to conceive a proper article. Also, speedy deletion criteria is quite applicable here. Make sure to conform to our core policies of WP:NPOV and verifiability. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 05:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Your article was deleted for lack of assertion of notability. If you want your article to stay, you'll need to let us know why you should have an article, and the link I gave you lists ways to demonstrate that. The easiest thing to do is provide multiple reliable sources on yourself, sources that you didn't create. Someguy1221 (talk) 05:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, if you are in anyway related to the topic/subject of the article, there may be a conflict of interest, where you are strongly discouraged to write the article yourself. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 05:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Not everyone deserves an article on Wikipedia, but everyone deserves an article on WikiBios, even those who jus' be frontin'. --Teratornis (talk) 17:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for Tips on Reliable Sources

The page "ChristianMedia.ca" was deleted on March 25, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChristianMedia.ca

23:05, March 25, 2008 Jmlk17 (Talk | contribs) deleted "ChristianMedia.ca" ‎ (Expired PROD, concern was: Non-notable website; article is promotion by the webmaster. External links are all directory listings.)

I have read through the documents regarding "Wikipedia:Proposed deletion" and "Wikipedia:Reliable sources".

Please note the following facts:

1. York University recognizes "ChristianMedia.ca" and the web site author David Spencer enough to have him on a panel discussion about careers in media for university students. http://www.yorku.ca/careers/conversations/panel_mediacomm2.htm
2. The Word Guild has the "ChristianMedia.ca" Project Leader, David Spencer. running a panel discussion on Writing for Radio and New Media . http://www.thewordguild.com/writecanada/workshops.html#E
3. According to Alexa traffic rankings, people from around the world visit "ChristianMedia.ca". As of March 28, 2008, "ChristianMedia.ca" has a traffic ranking of 698,603.
4. 205 Canadians agree with the mission and guiding principles of "ChristianMedia.ca" to the point that they joined and identify themselves with the project.

Question: Are newspaper sources the only "reliable sources" to validate that a web site and project exists and is making a significant impact on connecting media workers in Canada? DavidSpencer.ca (talk) 12:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Look at your own posting. Even if we were just going by a superficial measure such as Alexa ratings, there are 698,602 websites more interesting to people than yours. Endorsed by 205 Canadians? Even the Parti citron/Lemon Party mustered 4,087 voters in the 1994 elections! Newspapers are more generally reliable sources, yes. Also useful are books and magazines. Lack of notability is not a judgement on the worthiness of your project, just on how much public notice it has gotten. Wikipedia is not a place to come to publicize an organization, but rather to compile the information already available in previously-published, reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

mailing a page of an article in wikipedia

i want to know how to mail a page of wikipedia directly to my mail box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.235.13 (talk) 13:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Your physical mailbox? It'd be easier to just print it out. - Kesh (talk) 15:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

If you mean your email address, some browsers have an 'email this page' function. I don't know how to find them (I've never looked) but IE definitely has one. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 15:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

updates to article not appearing immediately

i have made updates to the article: Peter Golding, but the updates are not appearing immediately. I have requested emails for confirmation of copyright for images, as two have been taken down, but these are simple text changes. can anyone advise if they are with a reviewer, and if so how I would know if and when they are either live or rejected.

thanks --Rita gorman (talk) 13:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Changes to text happen immediately. If you're not seeing them, be sure to purge your cache. -- Kesh (talk) 15:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

New Entry for Trimedia Group

Can you please help me creating a new entry for Trimediagroup?(www.trimediagroup.com) When I am trying to do so, an already existing entry of TriMedia comes up. How can I create a new one for Trimediagoup? I already did so one month ago but it was taken from the site and I was not able to edit it after having put it online. Thank you very much for your help!

Birgit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Triint (talk • contribs) 14:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

First, I suggest you make sure the company is notable enough for an article here, by making sure it meets the criteria at WP:CORP. If you work for TriMedia Group, read WP:COI. Finally, if you think you can write a neutral article about the company, I suggest you make it in your userspace first, at User:Triint/TriMediaGroup. Once you're happy with how it looks, come back here and ask some folks to look it over, and we can help you move it where other people can find it. -- Kesh (talk) 15:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:DYKA AKA WP:Recent additions

I have recently become acquainted with WP:DYKA. I started going though my personal archive at User:TonyTheTiger/DYK to try to document them officially. I think my Chicago Landmarks hook (my eighth one listed) should be at Wikipedia:Recent additions 133 or thereabouts. I believe it was on the main page from 23:34, 15 April 2007–06:14, 16 April 2007. I am not finding it. I know human errror may be a problem, but I am trying to determine if there may be another issue since I just found out about this feature.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 14:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

It appers that the first and the last update in [2] are archived at Wikipedia:Recent additions 133, but not the middle (23:31 UTC) and 1 extra (yours at 23:34 UTC). They should have been between these:

• ...that, following his death, Constabilis is said to have appeared to the abbots of La Trinità della Cava, which he founded, the first four of whom have also been declared saints?

• ...that the Master of the Playing Cards (3 of Birds pictured) was a 15th century German engraver and the first major master in the history of printmaking?

I suggest you post to Mikkalai who created the archive page. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

BTW, how do you get a limited history like that?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I manually modified a page history url to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&offset=200704160615&limit=11&action=history. The 12 digits is YYYYMMDDhhmm (year, month, day, hour, minute) of the most recent displayed item in UTC (Wikipedia standard) time. Wikipedia-generated url's usually have two additional digits I don't know what means. When constructing an offset, digits can be omitted from the right. limit=11 means show 11 entries (or all entries if there are less than 11). I manually counted that there were 11 entries I wanted to display. User contributions have a similar url. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I did nothing fancy: I merely took whatever was there and split into several archive pages. BTW I don't see any "chicago landmarks" in the list I deleted. Probably they were lost sometime earlier. Why don't you add it to the archive yourself (with reasonable edit summary ), rather than wasting your time nailing down a careless admin. You better spend it to write more featured articles instead. :-) `'Míkka>t 21:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Giovanni Martinelli - Atlantic crossing

I had the unexpected great pleasure of sharing a table for two with him aboard the Nave Cristoforo Colombo from New York to Genova sometime in 195? We talked of everything but music and I am heartily sorry I failed to quiz him about the "sharps" and "flats" of the Opera world. I am sure he could have regaled me with enough material for a dozen books. He was truly beautiful with gleaming white hair and disarming smile. I remember we laughed a lot and mainly at the other passengers who, from our exclusive perch seemed "too too plebean fuh wahds, m'deah".

If any one of his biographers would contact me with the correct dates of the above crossing, I should be most grateful. Not to mention the name of the ship. (I made 18 crossings between 1951 and 1979 and there were five or six different ships.) Many thanks,

Elettra

Signora Elettra Landrum SC USA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.147.208.227 (talk) 15:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid it's highly unlikely you'll find any of his biographers here. Wikipedia is a volunteer-run site. While it's possible one of his biographers may be an editor here, the chances are slim. -- Kesh (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Please ask at WP:RD in future. That is the reference desk, where you can ask general questions. This page is for asking how to use Wikipedia. 81.108.115.156 (talk) 15:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)_{I'm sure I was logged in... Anyway, that was me. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 15:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)}

Wapipedia stopped working

Wapipedia worked great on my cell phone for the last few months. It stopped working about 2 or 3 days ago. All of my other favorite sites are working fine. Is Wapipedia still a functioning site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.175.20 (talk) 16:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, you would be best asking at the wapipedia help desk. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 16:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Searching Wikipedia with Google for: wapipedia finds this user's page:

• User:BotheredByBees

who claims to have created Wapipedia. You could ask on User talk:BotheredByBees if the site still works. See Help:Talk page for instructions on how to use our talk pages, if you haven't already. However, it's not clear if that user does much editing as a logged-in user here. --Teratornis (talk) 16:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Check their website for help at wapedia.org or change to using http://en.wap.wikipedia.org/ or one of the alternatives from Wikipedia:WAP access. Nanonic (talk) 16:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

When a bracket is just a bracket ...

Resolved

I just added a reference to the article on Dooley, Montana (using a ref template), and that reference contains a misspelled word. So to be correct, I need to add [sic] to the title ... but when I try to do so, of course Wikipedia tries to interpret the brackets as part of a weblink. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks! Pitamakan (talk) 17:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes! Use the<nowiki></nowiki> Tags around the desired text!DarkZorro 18:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Easy enough! Many thanks. Pitamakan (talk) 18:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

No Problem!:)DarkZorro 18:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You could also have used {{bracket|sic}} to produce [sic]. {{sic}} doesn't use nowiki and wouldn't have worked in your situation. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Help editing a page

I am interested in ading a large amount of content to the page regarding Ray Vinson. Some of the info, even though it is sparce, is somewhat misleading and needs alot of explanation. I am in the process of creating a substantial and very informational article but am unsure of the proper way of posting it. I have multiple links to other wikipedia articles relating to his business and the mortgage industry, as well as, other people involved. The more i try to figure out how to properly format it the more confused i get. Any guidance you can give me would be much appreciated as i am interested in becoming more involved with wikipedia and need to know how to post things properly to your standards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasfipps (talk • contribs) 18:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Before adding a large amount of information to the article, please review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should adhere. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think your proposed addition is appropriate, you might like to take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. It might also be a good idea to develop the new meterial in a subpage of your own user page - click here to start Thomasfipps/Ray Vinson - and once fomatted correctly, the wiki markup can easily be copied from the sub-page into the main article.

Note that if your changes are in any way controversial, it would be a good idea to discuss them first on the article's talk page, before adding them to the main article.

Astronaut (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

How do I prevent getting autoblocked?

Hi. I normally edit under a user account and several times I've been autoblocked because of vandalism from my IP or from another account using my IP? I know at least one of these times it was because I caught my brother vandalizing from my computer, but in some of the other cases (like one today) I think that it is because of a vandal who edits from my IP range. Is their any way I can avoid getting autoblocked?--24.173.26.210 (talk) 19:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Make sure you are signed on under a user name and then follow the directions at Template:Autoblock Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 19:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Newsletters

Resolved

 – §tepshep • ¡Talk to me! 20:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Ohio is currently discussing starting a newsletter. We've seen other Projects with newsletters, but were curious if any other state projects had a newsletter? Thanks. §tepshep • ¡Talk to me! 19:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Newsletters says no, although the Canadian province of Sasketchewan does. Nanonic (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. §tepshep • ¡Talk to me! 19:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

FYI in case anyone wants to look up the entry. The province name is Saskatchewan. (I'm one of the 0.37% of the population that can spell the word. And darn proud of it!) Wanderer57 (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Contributions

Resolved

How Can i Find Out how many edits i have. --Iwilleditu^Hi :) 21:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You can view how many edit's you have via here hope this helps. Terra 21:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank You. :) --Iwilleditu^{Talk :)Contributions} 21:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Franceca F is back,

Hello again, I tried the site that you showed me and an image appeared, but then when I went back into wikipedia there are still no images where they should be. Any ideas??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrancescaF (talk • contribs) 22:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know :( That's strange. You should probably ask either on the technical village pump, or on #wikimedia-tech. --Golbez (talk) 22:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Closing a RFC

Angel David had a RFC filed against him in October, and the last comment is in January. I think it's been settled, so how do we close it? Yamakiri ^T_C § 03-28-2008 • 22:59:11

Editing a Wikipedia (?) page

Hello:

I have come across what I believe to be a wikipedia page, which I would like to edit. The URL is as follows:

http://www.hudec.sh/wiki/index.php/Biography

I signed up with Wikipedia, but every time I try to click the edit page and sign in, the page tells me that it doesn't recognize my user id (I did activate it after I received my confirmation email).

What am I doing wrong? If this is not a wikipedia page, how do I find out who posted it so I can correct the information written there?

Thanks, still learning —Preceding unsigned comment added by ATHAMH (talk • contribs) 23:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

That page is not on Wikipedia, it is on another site. You will have to contact them if you want to edit it. Not all wikis are run by Wikipedia. --Golbez (talk) 23:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Right. That wiki site uses the same MediaWiki software as Wikipedia, but Wikipedia has no control over the site. It doesn't appear to have an online account creation for outside editors. The only 3 registered users at http://www.hudec.sh/wiki/index.php/Special:Listusers are bureaucrats. Maybe you can get in contact with somebody at http://www.hudec.sh/index.php?id=6. Wikipedia has its own page about László Hudec and you can edit that. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

March 29

Combinatorial mathematics

HOW MANY GROUPS OF 5 CAN BE FORMED FROM THE 24 ALPHABETS WITHOUT RECURRING? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dollarman sika (talk • contribs) 00:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

That's better asked on the language reference desk. --Golbez (talk) 00:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably the math one is better anyway please turn off that caps lock :) We'd be all grateful. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 00:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait, 24? Which letters did we lose? --erachima formerly tjstrf 00:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Lose? It sounds to me like we won 23 more alphabets. I wonder whether we are allowed to choose freely from List of alphabets. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:07, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Or perhaps all the alphabets containing 24 letters? The Mandaic alphabet perhaps? --Bfigura ^(talk) 01:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I count 19 distinct characters in "THE 24 ALPHABETS WITHOUT RECURRING", so I'm guessing 11,628 where order is not important. Franamax (talk) 08:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

If the questioner can define the set from which he or she wants to choose combinations, the Combination article explains the combinatorial mathematics. However, the questioner also did not specify whether the groups of five are ordered or unordered. If they are ordered, also see Permutation. (I'm getting nostalgic for graduate school now. It's been enough years that I've more or less forgotten the emotional trauma.) --Teratornis (talk) 01:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Cheyne-Stokes respiration (I'm not asking for medical info, I'm reminding everyone)

Cheyne-Stokes respiration is low on historical information.Kitty53 (talk) 00:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

This would be better stated on the talk page of Cheyne-Stokes respiration. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 00:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Editing a template

How do you change caption on the template on the article East Rail Line?Leolisa1997 (talk) 09:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

If you mean the big infobox-thing at the top of the page, that's {{HK-MTR route/East Rail}}. The image caption is in the 'caption' parameter. Algebraist 10:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.--Leolisa1997 (talk) 10:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

IP

What is the highest number of IP addresses that one person has used to edit Wikipedia? 124.180.107.248 (talk) 09:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

There is (I believe) no way of knowing, but it's probably a lot. Some ISPs (AOL, for example) use a proxy system that gives a different IP to every edit. Algebraist 10:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

log on problems

I am tryin gto log on, put my I keep getting the message that my password is incorrect, and even when I tried to reset my password, it didn't work. User:englishnerd 12:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Make sure You are not typing any capitals, if you aren't try capitalizing some of the letters. If this does not work, go under my prefrences at the top of the page give an email address in the box, hit save, and the next time login fails click Email new password. Good luck ~ DarkZorro 14:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The poster was an IP address who manually added User:englishnerd. At login, I have sent a new password to the e-mail address registered for User:Englishnerd. Try to log in again if you receive it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Further to articles in English on EXPO 67, the Universal and International Exhibition of 1967 in Montreal.

Wikipedia

EXPO 67 The 1967 Universal and International Exhibition in Montreal, Canada

Introduction

Yves Jasmin, OC, was Director of Public Relations for Expo 67. His concept was to have Public Relations as the developer of communications strategy, using information and advertising as tactical weapons.

Yves Jasmin was hired in March 1964 and held his position until January 1968. He was part of the seven member management team which held twice weekly meetings to create and launch the huge undertaking of an exhibition, approved by the Bureau of International Exhibitions, an overseer of world exhibitions since 1928. Expo 67 was the first BIE sponsored exhibition in the Americas.

With an original objective of 30 million visits, later raised to 35 millions, and with an extremely limited budget, Expo 67 reached the 50 million visit mark on the very last day of its existence, October 27, 1967.

Yves Jasmin received the Ultimate Achievement Award from the Canadian Public Relations Society, the Golden Anvil from the Public Relations Society of America and was made an Officer of the Order of Canada (OC).

He wrote a book for the 30th anniversary of Expo 67. It was written in French, no English language editor showing the slightest interest in the subject.

He submits his own translation of the Table of Contents, to indicate the scope of his story.

La petite histoire d’Expo 67 is the background story of the making of the Exhibition.

Yves Jasmin lives in Montreal, Canada.

I would like to attach to this statement my own translation of the Table of Contents. Is this acceptable ?

Yves Jasmin,OC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camelot67 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

All content on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable, but, if you can source your edit, feel free to add it in. Be bold in editing :) Steve Crossin (talk to me) 14:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Citation for "Elisabeth Rodriguez" article

Hello, I recently created an article titled Elisabeth Rodriguez which is about a young Argentine writer. Before or after some sentences there is a "citation needed" link. i can provide web pages where I got my information but I'm not sure where to place them. My information is in the reference section but I can provide additional links where it says citation needed. The only problem I have is that I cannot find a way to put it there. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horsjumper123 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I can't remember if it's WP:REF or WP:CITE but one of them will explain. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 17:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

User edit counts

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Is there any way to find out how many times a user has edited wikipedia? ImperviusXR (talk) 16:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, your edit count can be found here. Malinaccier (talk) 16:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Question about unified login

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Hi, I have accounts on other wikimedia projects (pt.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org and the username is the same in all) and I would like to change ALL my accounts from that projects to a unified login account, with a new username, is this possible? (I already checked and it is available in all, not yet created) can I keep all my contributions in the other projects? what is the best way of doing it? thanks in advance. SF007 (talk) 16:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Unified login is only currently enabled for admins, so unless you are an administrator, I'm afraid that's not possible. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 16:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Moreover, according to the information page at m:Help:Unified login#Frequently asked questions regarding renaming, the answer is that you can't rename a unified login at this time but "We expect that a renaming tool will be developed when the need arises."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

paradox

as a dyslexic i find wikipedea almost impossible to contribute to so i need some help please. I have discoverd a new paradox relating to special relativity. How do i share it with others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raystaines (talk • contribs) 16:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for original thought, or original research, as described here. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 16:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

How Can i edit and add one information in Wikipedia?

I would like to share one link with a good information provide by you but i am not able to edit it. It was deleted by Wiki Staff daily. one External link is all ready add with that link please help me out

Pushkar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.69.173 (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

If you are creating a page with an external link only, it will be deleted. If a link is to a non-reliable source, is not relevant to the article or is one you add a lot the chances are it will be removed from an article. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 16:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and Wikipedia does not have staff, just volunteers. There are some MediaWiki foundation staff with accounts but they are so few, and usually so busy, that the chances are they didn't delete the link. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 16:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Please review our guideline on adding external links. I don't know what link you were attempting to add but if it has been removed multiple times as you intimate, especially by multiple users, it very likely does not meet or is actively disfavored under our rules. If you advised the name of the article and the link we would be better able to assess your help request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Question about future merging of accounts to a unified login

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Hi, I have accounts on other wikimedia projects (pt.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org and the username is the same in all) and I would like to change ALL my accounts from that projects to a unified login account, keeping all the contributions, (maybe one day if I become an administrator), should I reserve my username in all today? or if I do this, it will later cause me problems because the username is already in use? thanks in advanceSF007 (talk) 17:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

See #Question about unified login. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 17:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

This is not answered by the former post. Yes, I would go ahead and create accounts. If the system as implemented for non-admins functions as it does now, it will automatically merge identically-named accounts if they have the same authenticated email address, or you can correctly provide you passwords on other accounts, so it shouldn't cause any problems later. What you are protecting yourself against is another person starting an account under the same username. Those accounts would be foreclosed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Right ulnar anti sensory.

Questions: The left ulnar motor showed increased latency and the right ulnar anti sensory showed decreaded velocity. Answer these two question please.--72.83.140.196 (talk) 17:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

This question might be more applicable at one of the reference desks. This page is for helping users with Wikipeida operation/usage. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest that this sounds like the beginning of a homework question, which Reference desk people won't answer for you (even if you actually provide the question). However, if you explain what you're having a problem with, they may be able to help you get past it. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I did not vandalize

All I was doing was researching at this library and a message shows up on screen saying "You have new messages (last change)." I clicked on that and the address I was sent to was

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:166.82.103.142&redirect=no

and it had increasingly stern warnings about vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.82.103.142 (talk) 17:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Because you are using a shared IP address, you are recieving messages meant for other users. To avoid this, you can register an account by clicking "Sign in/Create account" in the top right corner of the screen. Creating an account has many benefits which may be viewed here. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 17:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I've added a shared IP address to your talk page. That way people will know it's a library and will be more caution when blocking. If vandalism continues, a soft block is likely (this means you can edit only when logged in). George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 23:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

General availability of unified login

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I found no information about this, it is currently only for sysops, but is it planned for the "regular" users? and for when? thanks in advance SF007 (talk) 17:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe this topic/issue was addressed a few sections up. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

No it is not, this is a different one, but thanks anyway SF007 (talk) 18:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It is enabled for sysops only at the moment, as a test of the system. Regular users are to be added later I think. See m:SUL for more info. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 19:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It should be available to all users April 1.   jj137 (talk) 19:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! SF 007 (talk) 19:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Tournament Brackets

I was looking for the page on here for the format of tournament brackets, but after a half an hour of very hard searching, I came up lame. Can anyone help? Thanks! Stjimmy61892 (talk) 19:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Is this what you're looking for?   jj137 (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, sort of. I was more looking for the format for how to do them, like, rather than a 16-team, maybe a 32 or just the format in general. But yes I am also on that page VERY often :D ::huge basketball fan, very pissed UConn lost in 1st round to San Diego:: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjimmy61892 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

We have an entire Category:Tournament bracket templates, so you should be able to find whichever bracket you need. If not, I'd suggest copying the source into your userspace and playing with it to your heart's content, which is in my opinion the best way to learn these sorts of things. I'd point you to a page that explained how to make them, but I'm not sure one even exists. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you someguy, that is exactly what I was looking for.Stjimmy61892 (talk) 21:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Links in a table

Okay. I want to clarify that I'm on solid ground here before I start digging myself a hole: List of 2008 NASCAR races. Take a look at that table. Should the drivers' names be wikilinked after the first occurrence in a table, or no? I think they should; [User:NoseNuggets] appears to think not. Which is right? Gladys J Cortez 19:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

"do not create links to (...) The same link multiple times (...) (Table entries are an exception to this; in general each row of a table should be able to stand on its own)." From WP:OVERLINK. So, this means that in tables every link should be linked again if it occurs later. Rayhou (talk) 19:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

As I thought. Thanks!Gladys J Cortez 20:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Can someone make a artikel on my website ?

Hallo

Can someone make a artikel on my website- www.ivanov-hosting.com and just say when is founded and thinks like that. I will appriciate it very mutch

Regards

Yordan Ivanov —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverbros (talk • contribs) 19:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Not likely, unless it meets our notability guidelines for websites. Also, since you are affliated with the site, there would likely be a conflict of interest. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Editing Article Titles

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-weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

How do you edit an article title that has an error? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puertonatales (talk • contribs) 19:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC) Puertonatales (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Once your account is four days old, you'll see a "move" tab at the top of the article. You can use this to rename the page. See Help:Moving a page for more information. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

What page is it? -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 19:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

What if I didn't create the page but I want to edit the title?Puertonatales (talk) 19:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The same still applies...but if you want to move the page to an already existing page name you will find this impossible. You would have to contact an admin to do so...--Cameron (t/c) 19:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It looks like your account was created today. You can't move a page until four days after account creation (to prevent vandalism). After four days you will see a 'move' tab at the top of a page. That would let you move the article to a different name. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 19:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!Puertonatales (talk) 19:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I am trying to create an article but whenever i submit it all the text is on one line going straight across the page for quite some space, what should I do?

You've put a space before the text. Take it out, it should be fine =P weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Followup question - This may be a stupid question, but WHY does the system behave in that way when there is a space before the text? Wanderer57 (talk) 22:26, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe it's just so there's any easy way to force text into a boxed off area in a monospace font that doesn't word wrap; it's very useful when you need to write in unrendered code or some other example text. And given that we don't indent the first line of a paragraph, there is little reason to need to add spaces at the beginning of a paragraph anyway. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

In MediaWiki's markup, that's how we do preformatted text. — Kieff | Talk 23:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Personal Sandboxes?

Are there such things as personal sandboxes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjimmy61892 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes - you can create one here.   jj137 (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia join date

How does one find out when they first joined Wikipedia? (Not when they made their first edit.) I joined sometime back in 2005 probably, but I want to know when exactly. Thanks! --Alexc3 ^(talk) 21:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You can check the user creation log. For some reason, though, I'm not finding your log entry, though... Hang on. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The log only goes back to sometime in '06. I don't think there's any way of knowing if it's before that. Algebraist 21:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The page says, "This log goes back to approximately June of 2006; some accounts older than that appear in the log, but most accounts created May 2006 and earlier do not." There's got to be some way to find out though. :\ I don't have any confirmation e-mail about joining Wikipedia in my Gmail account as far as I can tell, which I've had since late 2004. --Alexc3 ^(talk) 22:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, Wikipedia doesn't send out confirmation emails for registration (or at least it didn't in early 2005 when I registered). Other than approximating based on when you first edited, I'm not sure there's any way to pin it down. Canderson7 ^(talk) 02:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

printable page

when I went to the printable page for this article the map did not print out anything like it looks on the page. The whole thing had been "dragged and stretched to the right over a convex structure" and was in essence meaningless to a bunch of young people learning about the pole star. This is well beyond my capabilities, was it me or ? Thanks. Edmund Patrick ( ^confer _work) 22:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I just tried it and my printout looks pretty much the same as on my computer screen. Maybe you do have a problem with your computer, the printer, or the driver software. Did the text below the image also stretch and distort on your print out? Is it just this image that is affected when you print? Can you get just the image and print that correctly? - note that the raw image is pretty large so perhaps it will be cropped. How about downloading the image and using an image editing program to print it. Astronaut (talk) 02:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Problems logging in

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I've been having lots of problems logging in, sometimes my username does not work.... it is a mess, it is because of my username, i choose one, but instead got another one due to technical limitations... can please someone chage it? at: [3] Thanks in advance SF 007 (talk) 22:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

March 30

Daylight savings time

Does Wikipedia change to use daylight savings time? Astronaut (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia always uses UTC for it's time but users can make it appear that all times are in their particular timezone in their preferences. Nanonic (talk) 02:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

change username on wikipedia of another language

I need to change my username on a wikipedia of another language. I have problems logging in because the username is "broken", but they dont' have many bureaucrats and only from time to time they go to the page of the requests, I would like to know if I can had a request somewhere else. thanks in advance. SF007 (talk) 03:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright

How can this image possibly not be copyrighted, unless the uploader is the photographer, editor and what-not of the book mentioned in the original upload text? --Ibn Battuta (talk) 04:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

deleting an article in a Mass moderated AFC archives page

There is an article on an archived page under the "Category:Mass moderated AFC archives".

The top of the page reads "All article submissions on this archive page have been mass moderated, and none of the remaining submissions are suitable for articles on Wikipeida", and each article has been tagged as not conforming to the standards of wikipedia, with a stated reason.

One of the articles on one of these pages makes statements about a living person which are derogatory and not referenced, and therefore, the article meets the requirements for a "Quick Deletion" and it has even been marked for a quick deletion. The article, however, has NOT been deleted, it is two years old, and Google has picked up on this article.

In summary my question is how do you delete an article that appears on one of the archived pages under "Category:Mass moderated AFC archives". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.212.209 (talk) 04:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)