User talk:Kransky

Welcome!

Hello, Kransky, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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List of Largest Flags

Hi there. Thanks for your contribution to the talk page. I was fighting a one man battle. The article is supposed to be on the largest flags in the world. If you look in any dictionary a flag is defined as "a piece of cloth, varying in size, shape, color, and design, usually attached at one edge to a staff or cord, and used as the symbol of a nation, state, or organization, as a means of signaling, etc." Basically, the trouble is, the author is using the article as a political vehical to promote the TRNC. The TRNC is not recognised by the UN or any other nation except Turkey. It represents an illegal Turkish occupation of the northern third of the island of Cyrpus. The "flag" that he refers to is pain on a mountain. I just get very irritated when people use wiki for their own agendas. Many thanks. Bunzo1980 (talk) 17:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diplomatic missions articles

Kransky, these lists of diplomatic missions are helpful, but they aren't really what wikipedia is all about. You might try listing things like that at WikiTravel. Unfortunately we can't transwiki them b/c the lists are now licensed under the GFDL, but I'm reasonably certain you can still relicense the content by posting it at WikiTravel. I'd encourage you to do so. In the meantime, I'm going to propose deletion of the articles. Sorry.--Kchase T 08:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Military losses are listed under the flag that they were incurred

Military losses are listed under the flag that they were incurred. For example German nationals who served in the US Armed forces would be listed with US not German losses. The UK drafted men from colonies who are listed with the UK since the losses were incurred with the UK armed forces not with each colony. Germany drafted ethnic German citizens of Poland and Czechoslovakia, they are never counted as Czechs or Poles. The Irish who served the UK forces did not fight for Ireland. It would be impossible to break out the nationality for the losses of each nation and reallocate according to your methodology. The losses must be listed under the flag that were incurred in order to avoid a list of numbers that make no sense and cannot be backed up with solid sources. The UK losses listed here are per the Commonwealth War Graves commission.

Australians, New Zealanders, Rhodesians and others fought under their own flags and the death tolls can be enumerated separately. Do you have specific information that states that the British war dead includes non-British combatants?

You bet I do, go to the CWGC wesite and browse through the names of the dead, there are many African, Malay and Burmese names. The Merchant navy had many Chinese and Arab losses. The problem is that there is no breakdown for each colony.
There is no breakdown of UK and Commonwealth losses by country of origin. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission does not provide the detail you are looking for. The US had German Jews in their ranks, Henry Kissinger is a perfect example. If we could identify German Jewish losses in the US Armed Forces would you include them with Germany? We need to keep the various Armed forces as seperate entities and the losses under the flag they were incurred. --Woogie10w 17:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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MetroPitt

Thanks for the MetroPitt article; it's really appreciated. You might like to change a few things given that the Government has done further planning on the route (now also called the "Redfern to Chatswood railway line"). On your map, the Park St station should link to Town Hall - they are meant to be connected. Also, the Castlereagh St station should link to Martin Place (it's also spelt wrong too). Additionally, as per the Dept of Planning Website, the lines are meant to connect to the new Campbelltown Express line at Redfern and the Epping to Chatswood link at Chatswood via two new rail lines between St Leonards (not Saint Leonards by the way) and Artarmon. Can you fix that stuff up for us? Thanks. (JROBBO 03:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

List of embassies

In my opinion such lists should not be place on Wikipedia. It is task of respective governments to provide this information and external link + few statistics in artcile about foreign relations of country X should be enough.

Specifically, Chinese diplomatic missions, could make good overview article about Chinese mission during history. Pavel Vozenilek 13:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the airline destination lists is example of what could get wrong with Wikipedia.

If anything, one may be interested in web pages of individual embassies, what kind of service they provide and in what timeframe and some general overview about diplomatic system of China. Just sequence of "Tirana, Yerevan, Vienna, ..." doesn't give very much, IMHO. Pavel Vozenilek 14:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the interest comes in discovering which countries bother to open embassies or consulates in particular places or not. What would a government prioritorise in its foreign policy, given limited resources. There are lists of flags, lists of planets, lists of alumns etc. with even less information. You are welcome to your opinion about what you think is 'wrong', but you would be holding a minority opinion against the consensus. (PS it is 12:30am here, I am going to finish the Chinese article then go to bed) Kransky 14:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgarian diplomatic missions

Hi! You've gone a great job with the dilomatic missions articles!

Do you really think it's necessary to remove the ambassadors? I know they're constantly changing, but there's a lot of such lists in Wikipedia (like List of ambassadors to the United States), and it's got the as of thing, so I think it's basically OK, but after all I wouldn't object to removing them. Todor →Bozhinov 16:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, sure keep them. The problem is maintaining the lists as ambassadors come and go. Do you think however you can format the list so it resembles the other entries, i.e:

Asia

Cambodia
- Phnom Penh (Embassy)
China
- Beijing (Embassy)
- Shanghai (Consulate-General)

Start with a short introduction, then list the missions by continent (ending with Multilateral Organisations), a link to other Bulgarian foreign affairs articles and a link to the external website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Use the same continents, the same order etc as much as possible Maybe you could add the names of each ambassador at the bottom of the list, or next to each mission.

Again, thank you for your contribution Kransky 12:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Danish embassy in Canberra

Hi Kransky,

Yes, its correct - the Danish embassy in Australia will reopen in 2007 as part of a major reorganisation plan by the Danish MFA - weird Denmark has'nt had an embassy in such an relatively important place - considering other "less important" places in the world hosting a Danish embassy.. Sir Tanx 20:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True, there are a lot of pro's for reopening the embassy - good to see more Danish embassies abroad :) The more the merrier! Sir Tanx 22:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Myanmar foreign policy

Happy New Year to you, too! In regards to my merge, it is okay by Wikipedia guidelines, if there is no response to a merge proposal, to be bold and merge them, which is what I did. I had never seen another diplomatic listing like those you speak of, but as the coordinator of the Burma/Myanmar project, both looked like very underdone stubs to me, so I waited, then merged them, now they make a more solid encyclopedic approach. We are going through a couple hundred Burma stubs and doing just the same. If you feel there is a need for duplication like that, then go ahead and recreate your article, but do not remove the info out of the new larger merged article, we like the improvement. And say hello to vegemite for me, do you know how rare that is in the States? It's like only me and three other people here must eat it here. I can go through a peanut-butter sized jar in about two weeks. :) Chris 19:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saw that, thanks for the heads-up-one thing-for those countries that recognize the name, it's Myanmar, with the r at the end. Would you be okay with a name correction move? Chris 04:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, I am well aware of the adjectival correction, as is the present regime, but they still use the incorrect form, as do most in the country, which is why most of the Wikipedia articles use the r. I am ready for them to have a change of government, and go back to Burma, which the democratic opposition favors. I'm just saying for the sake of uniformity for other articles on the nation, r is the norm. Chris 04:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

Thanks :) I plan to make an article about foreign embassies in Serbia but it seems to be hard as some of them have closed down in recent years due to financial problems, some of them have reduced their mission level on consulates and some of them maintain only a representative office with ambassador and his family. The outdated official websites aren`t helpful at all. Avala 13:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Honorary Missions

Thanks Kransky for catching those! Ithinkhelikesit 06:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That should be all of them Ithinkhelikesit 03:14, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject

Hi Kransky,

I think a wikiproject would be fine. I have no idea of how to start one, though, so I'll let you take the lead.

I've tried to follow the prevalent style. I don't think I've gone and done anything wildly inconsistent with the other articles.

In addition to having mission of countries listed, we should maybe attempt to list embassies in countries as well. "Icelandic diplomatic missions" should be complimented with "Diplomatic missions in Iceland," for example. With some countries, which treat diplomatic missions as a state secret - North Korea, Libya and a few others - that could prove to be difficult, but that's why we're in the business, right? haha.

Catch you later Canadian Bobby 20:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Brigitte

Please provide your source(s) for Willie Brigitte. Excellent work nonetheless. KazakhPol 04:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of List of The West Wing deaths

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Re

Sure, no problems. I did take a look at some other similar articles, and was going to format that article like them, but I had to get involved in some other articles. But I will do further work on that article later today to expand it. Cheers! Baristarim 12:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COUNCIL proposal

Your recent proposal here has been fulfilled by a WikiProject that I myself proposed. You can see it on WP:WPFR. You are welcome to help out, if you'd like. However, I do feel that in the project becomes successful in the future, we can create various task forces to deal with Diplomatic Missions and other topics such as the United Nations and the Coalition. What's your opinion on this?--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 22:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you interested in making a task force for your proposal? I'd be happy to help you out with putting it through, if you need me to.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PRC diplomatic missions

Kransky, I was unaware that there was a "club" of editors whose consensus was required to edit these articles. Wikipedia is open for anyone to edit (see WP:OWN) and I thought I was being helpful with the PRC article since I noticed you were playing with the layout too. But in the interest of playing nice, I will do my best to leave a message on your talk page every time I make major changes to the layout of the diplomatic missions articles. Also, about the politics infoboxes, I think it's an entirely logical thing to include an infobox on the diplomatic missions lists especially if the infobox links to it (like Template:Politics of Iceland). I think if you make it very obvious, via an infobox, that the list of missions is part of a bigger series of politics articles, it will help ensure that nobody comes and nominates it for deletion. If you agree, I'm going to put infoboxes starting with Icelandic diplomatic missions. Wl219 18:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fijian Diplomatic Missions

Hi there! You're most welcome to change the formatting of the Fijian Diplomatic Missions to conform to that used for similar articles. I haven't got time to do it myself at the moment, but you're most welcome. David Cannon 03:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Kransky

I saw your message in Wikipedia talk:Greek and Turkish wikipedians cooperation board#Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus diplomatic missions, and I agree with you that the article has to be categorized. I think that we should pursue the extension of the present consensus in relevant lists, such as Template:Countries of Europe and co. in Template:Templates listing countries, List of countries et al that foresee some sort of separate listing or highlighting of the non-recognition of these entities. My opinion is we should create a subcategory of Category:Diplomatic missions by country, titled as Category:Diplomatic missions of unrecognized or partly recognized states. I find this very descriptive, and very "grouping", if one is interested on the particular topic. I am also certain that this will solve whatever misunderstanding for legitimization concerns raised by users of either side. I will leave this up to you since you are apparently extensively involved with all diplomatic mission articles. What is your opinion? Niko Silver 12:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you are on to it already. I would preferably group "partially recognized" (as is our case, and it is quite extremely so in my opinion since only the invader recognizes it), with "unrecognized" (and not with "recognized"). Niko Silver 13:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The category was created by somebody else earlier. I understand that many Greeks are sensitive to this (as I would be if somebody invaded my homeland, invented a country in the territory they seized, and then treated it like a normal country). However I think we would be splitting hairs by having two separate categories for this and other articles (we have a List of Countries receiving snowfall, so should we have a List of partially recognised countries receiving snowfall?). Perhaps you might recommend some words to go in the article that explains no other country recognises the sole TRNC Embassy as a legitimate embassy. Kransky 13:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No biggie. I am not into these nationalistic-motivated actions anyway. I just dropped it as a stop-gap proposal. You are right in your parallel, and the issue is indeed for people with a great appetite for red-hairring. BTW I spotted a colloquial joke with the snowfall up there! Cheers! Niko Silver 14:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Palestinian diplomatic missions and what not

Hi Kransky. I apologize for changing the style internally of the article. That can be changed back. Regarding the name. It's complex in the sense that there are many on Wikipedia who are insistent that Palestine is not a country and it shouldn't be treated as one. This manifests itself as regular article renamings and regular deletion of categories which use the simple name "Palestine" in such a way that someone can construe it as a reference to a state. See here for a few examples of what I am talking about:

The basic implicit rules seem to be that one can use "Palestinian territories" / "Gaza Strip" / "West Bank" to refer to geographic locations, "Palestinians" to refer to the people themselves and "Palestinian National Authority" to refer to the attempt at self-government unless there is a specific name of a document or declaration ("State of Palestine" or "Palestinian Declaration of Indepedence".) It sort of sucks, but it seems that if you fight it, it just results in all the articles getting disjointed and screwed up. Thus for consistency sake within the Palestinian articles I strongly suggest sticking with PNA as the "country" name of the government related articles. Do you understand my reasoning? --Abnn 17:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Move

I've left a note for you here asking you to undo an incorrect move you made. Thanks. 86.147.226.9 14:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's now been a request to revert your move of Der schwarze Kanal to Der Schwarze Kanal. See Talk:Der Schwarze Kanal#Requested move. It would be good if you could contribute your reasons for choosing to capitalise schwarze, which (as you will have gathered from the above comment) has been disputed. Andrewa 13:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Embassy in Warsaw

added again Australian Embassy in Warsaw. Hi Kransky. You don’t have a point. Australian embassy in Warsaw occupies three floors of this building and this is not a small part. Small part is only available to customer of visa and trade section on 3rd floor, the rest embassy office space is not available. This pic shows where embassy is located. Could you tell me where in the statute of Wikipedia is written that I can not attach a picture of building in which there is an office of some company/embassy, though there are offices of others companies? So what that is multi-tennant building? That’s your private opinion and I don’t agrre with you. Sorry but your reason for removing this pic is ridiculous. So please, stop removing this pic. love, regards Isee1

Hi Isee1, The photo is not of the embassy. It is of a building that houses the embassy. As the caption (incorrectly) states that the building is the embassy, anybody reading the article would think the Australian Embassy in Warsaw comprises of a large six(?) storey building. This is misleading.

Secondly, I do not think we should start a precedent. So if the Austalian Embassy in Warsaw occupies three stories of the building - then what are the limits? The Dutch Consulate in New York occupies the Chrysler building, so do we put a picture of this New York landmark and say it is the Dutch Consulate? Or do we include it with the awkward caption "Building in New York which hosts the Dutch Consulate." Notice that on the other articles this practice is not followed.

There is a Wikipedia requirement that pictures are pertinent (see WP:IMAGE - "Pertinence and encyclopedicity"). With thousands of embassies existing all over the world we have a wealth of images to potentially choose from indeed one person was concerned the American diplomatic missions was overloaded with photos. One might also question the value of including photographs of trade offices and Ambassadorial residences (a trend you have started, and nobody else seems to be following). We do not have to add photos for the sake of adding photos!

But otherwise, many of your other pics from Warsaw are great (especially the North Korean one!).

Amore,

Kransky 01:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Australian Embassy in Warsaw

Hi Kransky

Ok. If we have to keeps the rules (you have been presented) you should remove others pics. For example Australian Embassy in Paris. This is also multi-tennant building that houses the embassy. Not occupies only by Chancery of Australian Embassy (embassy occupies only ground floor, 1st floor and 2nd floor) There are we have also others institutions like OECD and UNESCO offices, ambassadors apartment on the top floor and a residential apartments for some of the Australian diplomats and their families. Also no diplomatic institutions like Australian National Tourist Office in Paris. The caption that the building is the embassy (only!) is incorrectly. The same: anybody reading the article would think the Australian Embassy in Paris comprises of a large seven storey building (really occupies only three levels of this building). This is misleading too. So... Why you not removing this picture from this article? Whay you don’t KEEPS STRICT THE RULES? It’s against the rules! Whay you removing pic of Australian Embassy in Warsaw and leave alone Australian Embassy in Paris? Whay others pic presented many others embassies in the world that are located in multi-tennant buildings are not removing?

For example: - Brazylian Consulate General in Barcelona (occupies only one floor of many floors in this building) - Brazylian Embassy in Helsinki (occupies only office number B1 in this building on the 2nd floor) - Chinese Embassy in Berlin (building occupies not only by the Embassy of China – ditto Australian Embassy in Paris and Warsaw) - Colombian Embassy in Mexico City (the same) - Czech Embassy in Berlin (the same) - Danish Embassy in Bratislava (occupies only 1st floor of this building) - Embassy of Argentina to the Holy See (occupies only one floor of many floors in this building) - Embassy of Finland in Prague (occupies only one floor of many floors in this building) - French Embassy in Berlin (ditto Australian Embassy in Paris, China Embassy in Berlin and many others) - Hungarian Embassy in Berlin (ditto) - Irish Embassy in Prague (occupies only one floor in this building) - Japanese Embassy in Bratislava (occupies only two floors of this building) - Liechtenstein Embassy in Vienna (occupies only 2nd floor of this building) - Luxembourgian Embassy in Prague (occupies one floor in this building and NOTICE! this is the same building that comprise Irish Embassy) - Malian Embassy in Paris (occupies only 3rd floor of this building) - Maltese Consulate in Istanbul (occupies only one floor in this building) - Moroccan Embassy in Oslo (ditto) - Norwegian Embassy in Prague (occupies one floor of many floors in this building and NOTICE! this is the same building that comprise Finish Embassy) - Saint Kitts and Nevis Embassy in Washington DC (ditto, share this building with oters embassies) - Saint Lucian Embassy in Washington (ditto) - Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Embassy in Washington (ditto) - Sudanese Embassy in Oslo (occupies one floor of many floors in this building NOTICE! this is the same building that comprise Moroccan Embassy) - Swedish Embassy in Washington DC (building occupies not only by the Embassy, comprise also others swedish institutions also no diplomatic institutions, ditto Australian Embassy in Paris and Warsaw)

Why pics of this whole embassies/consulates still existing on wikipedia but pic presented where is located Australian Embassy in Warsaw can not existing? This embassies pics don’t keeps yours words. You said: “ ...I do not think we should start a precedent. So if the Austalian Embassy in Warsaw occupies three stories of the building - then what are the limits? The Dutch Consulate in New York occupies the Chrysler building, so do we put a picture of this New York landmark and say it is the Dutch Consulate? Or do we include it with the awkward caption "Building in New York which hosts the Dutch Consulate." Notice that on the other articles this practice is not followed...” !!!??? So... What's going down??? Sould I removing pic of Australian Embassy in Paris and will add note: “Australian Embassy in Paris only occupies a small part of the building shown” ??? If we have to keeps the rules I should do it. By the way... I think your example is bad. People are not that dumb. I'm sure nobody would think the Dutch Consulate in Chrysler Building comprises of a large 77th storey building. I would like to specify Dutch Consulate in New York City don't occupies the Chrysler Building only Rockefeller Plaza Building number ONE (11th floor).

Secondly, You said: “...One might also question the value of including photographs of trade offices and Ambassadorial residences (a trend you have started, and nobody else seems to be following)...” It is not true. Photographs of trade offices and Ambassadorial residences exist before. Before I have starded adding my pics.

By the way... trade office, commercial offic and so on ... is a part of the embassy even is located in other place than main chancery. The same ambassador’s residence is a part of diplomatic mission.

As a conclusion... I still don’t agrre with you. About pic of Australian Embassy in Warsaw You're Not Just!

Best regards Isee1 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:28, August 25, 2007 (UTC).

I think there is a clear difference in the standard between an embassy that houses different government agencies of the same embassy (eg Swedish embassy in Washington DC) and having photos of different buildings of the agencies in the same city. In the former case it is inevitable that the main building will house these offices, while in the latter case it goes back to pertinence - do we need these additional photos when the embassy itself alone illustrates the nature of the bilateral relationship and the streetscape of the capital? Ambassadorial residences - (technically they are embassies) are another matter, especially if they are architectually important different buildings. Trade offices are another matter.

My main concern is that a photo may misrepresent the size of an embassy when it shows a building housed by other tenants. I did not know that some photos fail on this point (eg Mali in Paris). Thanks for the research. If it is clear what *portion* of the building is taken up by the embassy then it could be acceptable (eg: embassies of Italy and Brazil in Helsinki, which appear to be more like townhouses), but in may other cases this would not be possible.

So what do you think is a good standard? Kransky 21:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: RE: Australian Embassy in Warsaw

I'm not convinced but I give up. In the allotted time I will remove my pics.

EOT.

best regards Isee1 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 19:06, August 26, 2007 (UTC).

I did some checking - the Australian Embassy in Warsaw only occupies all of the third and part of the second floors of the Nautilus Building on Ulica Nowogrodzka.

Please keep sending those pics in Warsaw all the same. Regards Kransky 03:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Australian Embassy in Warsaw

Something has been changed from last time maybe (cost-cutting, staff redundant). I remember that Australian Embassy in Warsaw three storeys occupied (may 2007). Who knows? Maybe next year embassy will be closed.

It does not change it facts. I have served examples (pics of embassies/consulates)which do not grant principles (you have been presented) as well as pic of Australian Embassy in Warsaw. Even presently only occupies part of this building it does not change fact that also Australian Embassy in Paris only occupies part of this building shows. It does not change fact that also Brazilian Embassy in Helsinki occupies part of the 2nd floor of this building shows, not all 2nd floor, only one office and so on. If you removing my pic you sould removing remaining photos.

The RULES are binding for all users or nobody. There is essence of case! best regards Isee1 08:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I visited the Australian Embassy in Warsaw in 1999, it was located in a freestanding building. Subsequently it has moved to the new building.

Actually I wanted to remove the Brazilian Embassy photo you mentioned, since it shares the same building as the Italian Embassy. It was subsequently replaced. I only picked on yours since I am absolutely certain the Australian mission in Warsaw does not occupy a significant portion of the building.

Remove the Helsinki photos if you think it is appropriate. I believe in consistency, but I don't have time to check and change every single difference, and if I picked your photo and not others, it was only because in your case I am certain the embassy only occupied a small portion of the building. Peace Kransky 10:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As you think/consider. I will not write in this thread more. Thanks and Bye.Isee1 15:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of premature obituaries

Thanks for your Kevin Stoney entry in this. Do you have a reference for this, e.g. the specific date of the Dreamwatch issue? Ben Finn 11:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re:Diplomatic missions of the United States

Thanks for catching those. I was unsure how to label foreign territories which had US embassies accredited to the "home" state, thanks for the feedback! ithinkhelikesit 17:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand diplomatic missions

Hello. Just wondering why the diplomatic missions by country category has been removed from the New Zealand diplomatic missions, since I can't seem to find any mention of it. Thanks. -- Vardion 21:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vardion, On advice from other editors I am in the process of renaming articles to be consistent with Wikipedia naming conventions. New Zealand diplomatic missions is now Diplomatic missions of New Zealand.

I decided to use the original article as it fits in with the same style and formatting as other 178? articles in this category. Please refer to the second sentence of WP:MOS - One way of presenting information is often just as good as another, but consistency promotes professionalism, simplicity and greater cohesion in Wikipedia articles.

Could I suggest you judiciously add to New Zealand diplomatic missions information from your version of the article. Your history of New Zealand's foreign diplomatic presence is worth including, and could be neatly and succinctly summarised in prose form at the front of the article. Please do not make this article be inconsistent with all the others. Thank you.Kransky 01:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I feel that there's still some useful information to be transferred (such as indications as to which countries each embassy is responsible for, as distinct from the individual country it's situated in), and that history should be given a separate section (it's too specific to be treated as an introduction, as at present). However, I'm not really planning to taking an active interest in this article anymore, so by all means feel free to arrange it how you think best. -- Vardion 21:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Botswanan

Hi. I noticed belatedly that back in June you undid my move of Botswanan diplomatic missions to Botswana diplomatic missions with the edit summary 'we use the adjective form of country names for these articles'. "Botswanan" is however not the correct adjectival form for this country, while it is true some dictionaries list it it is unknown in Botswana itself. Per WP:ENGVAR we use "Botswana" as the adjective on Wikipedia. See also Botswana and this discussion. Best wishes, --John 15:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kangaroo Route

Just saw your re-write of Kangaroo Route this evening... thanks for being bold and giving it the clean-out it needed. It makes it even more obvious now just how badly it needed it. It's being bothering me for awhile that one. -- Rob.au 13:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Immigrants_to_US_by_COB_2006.PNG

Hey Kransky, I find it very positive that you made a map that shows immigration to the US. I would suggest however you provide a legend, a colorbar, so it could be faster interpreted (cf. e.g. these images). Thanks. --Ben ^T/_C 15:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/United Nations Parliamentary Assembly

Hello, I have created an article about the UN Parliamentary Assembly, a proposed world body that would be similar to Europarl. Please review and vote on the WP:FAC nomination. Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 01:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please review your comments to see if they still apply to the revised article. Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 16:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of You (Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006)

An article that you have been involved in editing, You (Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/You (Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006). Thank you. -- tariqabjotu 22:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Desperate Dan

The source for Viz (Desperately Unfunny Dan) doesn't look too reliable to me, because by the time it gets to us, it's third-hand hearsay. Can you find a better reference, e.g. Viz' website? --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 13:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

err, you need to sign up for viz' website, but it's referenced in Viz anyway, so I've reverted & just removed the reference. As you were. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 13:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign residents in Taiwan

Hi, Kransky.

I noticed that you made a map Image:COB data Taiwan.PNG, which is a little bit inaccurate.

You see, your data was based on Ministry of the Interior of Taiwan, but the page you referenced didn't list all of the countries in the World.

If you can read traditional Chinese, there is another page also made by MOI, but they list all of countries [1]

This page lists the number of foreign residents in Taiwan from over 150 countries. (but in traditional Chinese)

If you can't read traditional Chinese, I can help you to translate it. --Kerry7374 (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not many changes.

* 50,000 +

Indonesia: 113,743
Vietnam: 96,686
Thailand: 90,042
Philippines: 83,506

* 10,000 – 49,999

Japan: 10,770
United States: 10,339

* 1,000 – 9,999

Malaysia: 7,755
Burma: 3,023
Canada: 2,882
South Korea: 2,805
Cambodia: 1,705
India: 1,429
United Kingdom: 1,370
Singapore: 1,171

* 100 – 999

South Africa: 984
France: 849
Australia: 776
Germany: 757
New Zealand: 355
Russia: 243
Netherlands: 217
Brazil: 163
Nepal: 163
Mongolia: 149
Italy: 145
Switzerland: 145
Spain: 140
Sweden: 133
Paraguay: 119
Turkey: 110
Austria: 105

Date: October 31, 2007

--Kerry7374 (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kerry. However I notice the data you cite comes from 1996 (製表日期：96年10月31日). Best to rely on the more recent MOI data - interesting that numbers have dropped from South Africa, South America, Mongolia and Nepal... Kransky (talk) 04:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ehh... "96年" is using Republic of China calendar, which is started from 1912; so the "96th year of the Republic" here actually means the year of 2007. (sorry for confusion) --Kerry7374 (talk) 04:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that bit of information - very handy. In future I will say I was born on the Minguo calendar year of my day of birth to make me feel young. Map updated Kransky (talk) 05:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, Kransky. Thanks for your efforts first. I double checked your new map. I found out there are still some mistakes - Burma, Turkey and Austria are not included; and the date of data should be 2007. (Thank you again) --Kerry7374 (talk) 07:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lithuania

Hi Kransky, I found this page from the gov't of Lithuania that seems to indicate that they have embassies in more counties than are listed at Diplomatic missions of Lithuania. Can you read what some of the countries are and update the article? Thanks, Lord Uniscorn (talk) 01:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't read Lithuanian, but I think the list just shows countries which have diplomatic relations with Lithuania, and not necessarily host a Lithuanian embassy (marked with a *) or a consulate (marked with a "GK") Kransky (talk) 07:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Izmir lee (talk • contribs) 08:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please sign your name. How do you expect people to know who you are?. If this is Izmir lee, please follow Wikipedia guidelines by seeking a consensus first before making dramatic changes. Kransky (talk) 08:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Izmir

You're welcome.

And I set him back another 48 hours (at least) from returning to editing for that little attempt at sockpuppetry. Daniel Case (talk) 14:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Omigod, that's over a hundred or so articles to protect. I'll start it but you may want to post about this at RFP to get these protected sooner rather than later. Daniel Case (talk) 14:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I got to the J's and Kazakhstan before him. I can't stay at this computer much longer ... you'll have to post to WP:AN or AP:AN/I if this continues. Daniel Case (talk) 14:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars

Hi. Please remember to use the proper format at Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars. Thanks! - Mtmelendez ^(Talk) 13:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey

Hi Kransky... Question: do you HATE Turkey and Turks?? I see that you consider Armenia as "Europe" but not Turkey, that means your borders of Europe are religion based (ie, christianity) and not geographical. Well I do not know if you have been to Turkey AND any State you name as "Middle Eastern", like Syria or Iraq prior to this date, which I would gladly invite you to, since it will clarify your ideas. I do not know from where you look at things but I see some lack of information, like your post on the Cyprus issue saying "I understand that Greeks are very sensitive on the issue, since if some foreign invader came to my homeland carved up a new country and treated it like a state"... meaning that Cyprus was NOT home to any Turks?

Please let's stop that pretty lame edit war on the diplomatical missions, as Turks are pretty sensitive on it. A region named the "Middle East" is not a continent like Asia or Europe or Antarctica, but is a political Entity, that is still not well defined. Some people include Egypt, (Africa) some people Afghanistan, (Central Asia) some people both some people neither some go as far as including Algeria and for example excluding Israel. If you make such sub-continental groups, then you must create a separate one for "Southeast Asia" or "Central America" and so forth, each with non-defined borders, and as you could guess, we could not get away with it as we would constantly be harassed by Nicaraguans or Indonesians claiming our listscarry false information

When it comes to Turkey, we are speaking of a state that is candidate for EU membership, a very prosperous economy, a member of the OECD and a permanent participant to the UEFA and to organisations such as the Eurovision. The history of Turkey and the Ottoman Empire has shaped Europe as much as it has shaped Western Asia. If you ask citizens of Turkey, they will, for the majority , tell you that they are either feeling "European", "Asian-Anatolian", or neither or both (but mostly not belonging to some imaginary political entity named "the Middle East" though). As it is pretty unfair to place Turkey in one category, without pretty much prior knowledge of Turkey or the Turks, it is also pointless to coin something on them they do not even see themselves as.

I would personnally be OK with a double-representation of Turkey on those lists, (like on the UN lists) together with other bi-continental countries such as Russia, with an icon-figuration in both Asia and Europe. (Definitely not in the Middle-East)

Since you are the Creator of those lists, with all the respect we owe you, you have a great part in the responsability to think of a viable solution that goes beyond your own set of thought, or, if you do not want to think about it, I can bring it up to the WikiProject Turkey page and we can discuss it all together.

Cheers!

--Eae1983 (talk) 10:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your post and my response is at Category talk:Diplomatic missions by country Kransky (talk) 12:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kransky,

According to what I read in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism, what you or I have done could not at all be qualified as Vandalism, but maybe as "Stubbornness" (please read the guide of conduct about Vandalism thoroughly). As it is therefore far from being Vandalism, (we are dealing with real information and points of view) not blankings, or obscenities or so, please refrain from doing so in the future. Also, when you leave any comments on my page, please sign them.

Cheers! --Eae1983 (talk) 13:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chilean Australian

Why did you change the article? You say you made it less POV, but what you have done is made it your point of view. Before this it was complete reference. I have fixed it now so you do not need to make any more changes. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 11:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my response on article talk page Kransky (talk) 11:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Latin America

I have removed the warning templates and script - I think we understand ourselves more. You should be satisfied with my last change to Chilean Australian.

Good to see you finally realised what site the information was obtained from "The Embassy of Chile". If you find yourself in conflict with someone having an aggressive attitude who is giving you hassle that you think is unjustified, call me. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese Australians

There are two statistics regarding Vietnamese people in Australia; one is the number who are born in Vietnam, the other is the number of Vietnamese speakers. The first does not count those who are born in Australia, which there probably is a significant number (I believe they number 30% in the US), and might include those ethnic Chinese who are born in Vietnam. The second statistics might overstate the number due to some who are born elsewhere and are not ethnically Vietnamese but still speak Vietnamese (this seems paradoxical; if they are born elsewhere and aren't Vietnamese, why would they speak Vietnamese?), but it also does not count those who do not speak Vietnamese at home. Overall, I think the second statistics present a closer picture of the number of Vietnamese people in Australia. DHN (talk) 18:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware that the gov't of Australia released ancestry information. If that's available, we should definitely use only that. The information I had indicated that the number of Vietnamese speakers is significantly larger than the number of people who were born in Vietnam. DHN (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

International Relations project

Ok I'll move those countries to Asia and I want to be involved in the International Relations project. Thanks Izmir lee (talk) 16:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Honourary Consulates

Why are you excluding them from lists of diplomatic missions? They carry out similar duties. 99.226.143.206 (talk) 04:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No they do not. Furthermore honorary consulates are not granted the same level of priviledges and responsibilities as fully accredited consulates and embassies. Adding in honorary consulates to this list would depreciate the importance of accredited missions. It might be worth considering adding in honorary consulates for every article, but I don't know how many people would be willing to carry out this work. Kransky (talk) 05:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of I'm So Ronery

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AfD nomination of African Australian

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RE:World's busiest passenger air routes

Thanks! Would have loved to complete the tables for the other continents, but it was a rather labourious process which I didnt have the stamina zeal to finish it all in one go at that time!--Huaiwei (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but I won't be doing it tonight...far too tired. Anyway you are fortunate indeed. I have yet to find an excuse to fly to Sydney or London!--Huaiwei (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nukuʻalofa

The actual spelling of the capital of Tonga is Nukuʻalofa (Nukuʻalofa), not Nuku'alofa. It appears that you may be using MS IE6, you may want to update it to IE7, or change to another browser which doesn't have a problem rendering unicode (Firefox is one). The reason being, what one thinks is an ' in the name, isn't an ' but rather an ʻ, or ʻokina. If needed the template for the ʻOkina is found at Template:Okina. --Россавиа ^Диалог 12:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the lesson - I never knew thatKransky (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oi

you need to read what the notice message says.
It says on the message notice:- "If you can address this concern by improving, copyediting, sourcing, renaming or merging the page, please edit this page and do so. You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to its deletion for any reason. To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, it should not be replaced."
I improved the article therefore i removed the notice as thats what the message you put up advised me to do. So don't tell me not to remove the message, when it clearly says i can if it is improved. Ijanderson977 (talk) 15:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One other thing, I didn't intentionally link it to my myspace account haha. However i have since corrected it. ;) Ijanderson977 (talk) 16:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Hi, I wonder if I could bug you with a question? Could you please tell me how I can modify and/or create maps in wikipedia? For example: I want to update the map in Diplomatic missions of Mexico because since the map's creation, Mexico has opened a diplomatic mission in Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates. Thanks for any help you could give me. Aquintero (talk) 18:37, 30 April, 2008 (UTC)

click on the map, click on it again when it is in "full screen mode", then right click and save it (it should save automatically as a PNG file).

then open the map using Paint, and perform any necessary edits (get rid of the trade mission category!)

save the map with a slightly modified name, ensuring it is a PNG file

upload the file through Wikimedia

change the link on the article page to point to your new map. Easy!

btw, could you go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 April 30 and enter your opinion on what should happen to Trade missions of Vanuatu. Kransky (talk) 10:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for everything! Aquintero (talk) 14:32, 1 May, 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/TeePee-20.7

Hello. Wikipedia:Requests for comment/TeePee-20.7 is likely to be deleted in about 24 hours from now unless it meets all the requirements listed at the top of the page. Can you have a look and either fix it or withdraw it. Thanks, Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can I delete it? Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A word in your ear

Just to say that this is generally fine, but "I would gently ask TeePee to consider if Wikipedia is really the right place for him" is probably not a good thing to say. Best of luck with getting the Chilean-Australians sorted. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chilean-Australian. Resolution sought

Although I do think it is in all our interest that we resolve the debate, I still think there are some issues needed to be addressed. I am equally as grateful as Kransky for all your time and effort but do not agree with his revision especially since it still contains information which has been referenced by an invalid reference which has been the major issues I have had with him throughout the whole history of this article. My version here provides references to the Embassy 2006 estimate and the ABS 2006 ancestory estimate. I respectfully ask you view my edit first as I asked first and tell me what problems you have with it before viewing Kransky's revision. (This was the terms I agreed to Kransky before promising I would not revert your revision, as you did not respect my request and want your revision to be viewed first I do not see why I should respect your request and let the article remain in it's current revision especially since you have provided that invalid reference which you have been doing for months). Thankyou TeePee-20.7 (talk) 17:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sharing with me your version, but as it contains the phrases " Adding to this second and third generation Chileans living in Australia, the total Chilean-Australian population is around 45,000 persons.[7]" and "It is estimated that 857,781 Chileans are living outside of Chile [1]... Around 2% of those live in Australia." it still does not address our central concern of the reliability of the Nadine source. I also have believe the text "The majority of Chileans have both European and Amerindian ancestry." needs to be referenced. Kransky (talk) 23:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something to try

Try WP:WQA as a means of settling this problem. If that does not work, it will at least show you have tried, and exhausted, all avenues of resolution availible to you. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 16:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kransky admit you have been wrong and let it be done. Why must you always go around behind my back speaking badly of me? TeePee-20.7 (talk) 17:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject?

Hi To take things from the specific to the more general would you be interested in a wikiproject? I have started to draft one at User:Matilda/draft wikiproject to cover demographics of Australia. There seems to be some inconsistency across the various articles listed on Template:Ethnic groups in Australia. There are perhaps issues about classifying people by ethnicity as per Chris Watson at Chilean Australian and previous discussions on African Australian. A whiole lot of issues might be clarified by a centralised approach. What do you think? Regards --Matilda ^talk 01:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes

Sure! I can mass edit these articles :) WhisperToMe (talk) 02:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll review the UN guidelines to see what other sections could be added, but keep in mind Asia is the largest continent on Earth, and so it would make more sense to divide Asia than, say, South America or Oceania. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- We could go with whatever classifications the UN has for Europe, Africa, and North America - so that's 4/6 - I do not believe that the UN classifies South America at all. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! I could bring it up on the project page and see what they think WhisperToMe (talk) 03:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_International_relations#United_Nations_geoscheme_for_embassy_listings - And if this is accepted it can be indicated in the WikiProject page :) WhisperToMe (talk) 03:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diplomatic missions of the Republic of China

As per your request, I've semi-protected this page for a month. I hope this helps. -- The Anome (talk) 13:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

teepee

like a hole in the head - or when you stop banging your head against a brick wall :-) --Matilda ^talk 10:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The map is way cool!

Wow - I am really really impressed!

No probs about African Australian. I have move protected it so we can't have it moved yet again to Black Australian, Afr-Australian or any of the other permutations. Copy-paste vios have to be dealt with separately. Regards--Matilda ^talk 10:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Top 21 passenger air routes.PNG

Hi Kransky, I just want to point out an error with regards to the route Jakarta-Surabaya. Both cities are actually on the same island, Java. So the route appears to be wrong. Thats all. ќמшמφטтгמ^torque 03:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks (damn) Kransky (talk) 10:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diplomatic Missions by Country

Hey, I'm not so much removing the category wholesale, but rather recategorising them so that they appear under its parent category only. For all intents and purposes, categories should ideally, when they are further categories present, be empty. i.e. Category:Diplomatic missions by country should have as it's only article Diplomatic mission, with the actual by country in it's relevant category. e.g. Diplomatic missions of Russia is the 'main' article in Category:Diplomatic missions of Russia, it wouldn't make much sense to also have it in Category:Diplomatic missions by country; it's merely doubling up in the 'by country' category. --Россавиа ^Диалог 10:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for keeping me posted! Aquintero (talk) 16:46 24 June, 2008 (UTC)

Categories for discussion

Here's a discussion which you may be interested in - Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_June_16#Embassies_and_high_commissions_by_city_categories --Россавиа ^Диалог 10:06, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Read the section above this one. --Россавиа ^Диалог 10:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Houston-area consulates

So far, I know of two consulate complexes that are full-building. I uploaded the photos of Mexico and the People's Republic of China consulates in Houston. I think Australia is a full building but I am not sure if it is actually a consular facility or if it is a residence of an honorary consul (I would not post photos of any honorary consul residences).

Pakistan in unincorporated Harris County *may* have its own consulate building too, so when I get photos of nearby Jersey Village, Texas I will also get the Pakistan consulate. WhisperToMe (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Australia only has an honorary consul in Houston. Is Harris County part of Houston? Kransky (talk) 23:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Harris County is in the Houston area - The City of Houston is mostly within Harris County. Other parts of Harris County are unincorporated (not under the jurisdiction of any city) - The Pakistan consulate is located along Jones Road in an unincorporated section of Harris County, so it is within the Houston area and outside of the Houston city limits. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- BTW I have determined that Pakistan does have its own consulate building. In terms of the Houston area, aside from Pakistan, Mexico, and P.R. China I am not aware of any countries with full-fledged consulates or consulate-generals that have fully-contained buildings; the rest are suites in office buildings. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BTW I found that four LA-area consulates listed on Wikipedia are in Beverly Hills - Using the BH city limits map and some consulate pages confirming addresses I added Beverly Hills and sourced the changes. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WhisperToMe, people associate Beverly Hills as part of Los Angeles. It forms part of the County of Los Angeles. It forms part of the Greater Los Angeles Area. I cannot see any reason to change articles to refer to suburbs. I doubt that your suggestion - which would effectively require changes to 180 articles - would gain much support. It is more useful to know that Egypt has an embassies in London, Tokyo and Canberra, rather that in Mayfair, Meguro and Yarralumlah.Kransky (talk) 10:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could only do this for United States articles since our definitions of "cities" differs from definitions of "cities" in other parts of the world. In the USA we typically define cities by their city limits, while London and Sydney are composed of various municipalities. Also just because Beverly Hills is in the LA area doesn't mean that a person looking at the article is not interested in the fact that the consulate is in actuality in Beverly Hills, a city famous in its own right. I admit that Harris County is not famous, but the fact that the Pakistan consulate is not within the Houston city limits ought to be indicated. In the BH case, the association with Los Angeles is clearly indicated and obvious because of the "Los Angeles-area" added to it. Other areas of Wikipedia concerning U.S. articles are precise with city limits (E.G. the article for Westfield High School, which I wrote, does not say that the school is in Houston - it is in Harris County), and I feel consulate listings should be so as well. Since people on Wikipedia are seeking precise, accurate information and because the consulates are important for the specific cities, there is no reason not to include precise city limits.

Perhaps the idea is to list the consulate by principal city, i.e. "Los Angeles," and as a note underneath the precise city and/or notable tower (in the case of an office building consulate) could be listed

For the matter, Diplomatic missions of Japan lists the Guam consulate as in "Tamuning" - Perhaps it can be "Guam" first and underneath be listed as "In the city of Tamuning" - Since Tamuning is not that well-known.

BTW I looked for "Yarralumlah" and cannot find it.

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]