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Peter Anthony Gugeri

Anyone any idea who he was and why the West might have ridiculed his political ideas (in fact, even the fact he nominated at all in the 1911 election)? The West as usual is pretty vague on its reasons, and I'm not seeing references in other publications. He only got 2.83% in the constituency anyway, but yeah. Orderinchaos 19:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno much except that he was a Perth City Councillor and had a vineyard in Mundaring. Where is the West ridiculing him? Moondyne 01:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, was ridiculing him 97 years ago. :) See my talk page for the exact quote. Orderinchaos 01:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've come in late as usual. If he was a Perth City Councillor with some controversial notions, then there is some chance that he will be covered in Stannage's social history of Perth; I'll have a look tonight. Hesperian 01:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing in Stannage. Hesperian 10:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. That quote seems to me not to be ridiculing his political ideas, but rather chiding him for either nominating at the last minute, or not campaigning until the last minute. Hesperian 01:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I may have miscomprehended it - I was taking the "hoarded wisdom" comment to be a sarcastic jab. Orderinchaos 01:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think its an allusion to Tennyson. Hesperian 02:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah okay. On an unrelated note, any idea about what the story was with the brief Bullfinch gold rush and construction of the railway to it? The 1910 papers are all raving about it then the 1911 papers which favour Labor (the collection of sources for this article has been truly an undertaking in filtering extreme bias in pretty much all the newspapers in one direction or another!) basically suggest it was a scam of some sort promoted by speculators, and even some suggestions the Moore-Wilson Government had been involved in it. From reading the 1910 Hansards surrounding the act establishing the railway and the act appropriating finance to it, they were certainly advocates in the strongest terms for it, which I'm guessing came back to bite them later. Orderinchaos 02:32, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I got nothin'. Hesperian 11:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep looking then. I'll probably have to look more closely at the Kalgoorlie newspapers, which generally were antipathetic to the government and try and construct a timeline I can go back to The West with. There's also two published histories of Bullfinch, but both are a lot more recent and one is by the shire council, the other by a mining company, so not sure whether they will shed any more light on it. Orderinchaos 11:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(In case anyone's wondering, the "article" I mention I'm working on is Western Australian state election, 1911.) Orderinchaos 11:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hesperian Press, which is neither a council nor a mining company, published Bullfinch and the Yilgarn goldfield last year. There is also an entry in Battye's Cyclopedia of Western Australia, (Volume 2 page 350) which was published in 1812-1813; perfect timing! Hesperian 11:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You do mean 1912-1913? Gnan garra 11:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed I do; thanks. Hesperian 11:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, fantastic. I'll see what I can turn up tomorrow then. Orderinchaos 11:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still a mystery re Bullfinch - both Battye and other sources seem to think it worked out as a project. Orderinchaos 23:47, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

would he also be the source for the name of Gugeri st in Claremomt? Gnan garra 07:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could well be. I looked up today and all I could find out is he was a JP and clerk of courts in Guildford and later in Midland Junction. Orderinchaos 11:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've got dead ends here. A phone call to Mundaring and Hills Historical Society might be worthwhile. Moondyne 12:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Too many colons here - It wouldnt necessarily (phone call) - give me a day or two and I will have all the stuff - hadnt realised this thread has gone so long without realising I have the appropriate material on tap about him Satu Suro 13:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perth rental prices

Just getting some extra eyes onto the Perth talk page - a good faith user has raised the question of how we add this or the fact that some sources consider it a crisis. I wasn't aware that it wasn't already there, but the fact it isn't means we can get it right first time :) As we all know rentals are difficult to source due to a lack of authoritative reliable sources. Probably best to centralise any discussion there. Orderinchaos 18:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pilbara notes

I think (in the midst of a curiosity-inspiring minerals boom) we have some work to do on Pilbara#Ports which has an embarrassing number of red links. Also, I've discovered a rather unfunny bit o' garbage in Dampier, Western Australia#History which I'll let you see before I or its [author] get rid of it. Cheers Bjenks (talk) 09:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it shows some imagination myself. Dan arndt (talk) 09:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It does indeed - almost right for Uncyclopedia, actually. Orderinchaos 10:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if Pier August Bohr was related to Harald August Bohr ;} Gnan garra 10:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not Niels Bohr - and it would almost certainly get edited out of unencyclopedia by the egomaniacs there Satu Suro 11:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a multi-edit diff; Rjwilmsi wasn't the vandal. Hesperian 00:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested articles

In the requested articles section of the to-do list, Alf Barbagallo is listed. Does anyone know if this means the man or the company? I thought it meant the man, but Google has nothing on him (aside from some supercar statistics [1]), just the company. I know Google's not the be all and end all; I was looking for a starting point. ;) Thanks, Somno (talk) 02:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any article on Alf Barbagallo would probably be a defamation magnet. Not that I'm saying he does or doesn't warrant an article. - Mark 05:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His association with motor racing in WA is notable, the question is sources its an either-or/both dependent on what the sources offer. I ran into the same issue with finding sources before I listed him. Gnan garra 06:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[2] FYI there is one that has potential for a start point Gnan garra 06:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[3] and Gnan garra 06:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs with sufficiently public domain access refs cannot be defamation magnets ergo sum - or some might be so dumb Satu Suro 06:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

looking the recent google hits its one that going to have to be watched, Gnan garra 08:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be happy to watch it, if/when it gets off the ground... There should be some sort of law banning people from naming companies after themselves, simply because it makes writing Wikipedia articles difficult. Somno (talk) 01:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of homesteads in Western Australia

Since we started checking values entered as coordinates against possible values, various entries in the above lists showed up due to a rounding problem. Values rounded to 60' should be rendered as 1°00' rather than 0°60'.

As a sample, the entry for "17 Mile Outcamp" on List of homesteads in Western Australia: 0-9 lists "24°6′S, 115°60′E" instead of "24°6′S, 116°00′E".

Note that clicking on the coordinates works as the coordinates extension converts the values. -- User:Docu