User talk:Simon Burchell

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Flickr images

An account holder, Mr. Che, (rosemania on flickr) has licensed his museum collection images freely so that they can be used on Commons and WP. I have used 2 of them on Sican Culture--the gold cup and funerary mask. I have also notified Mr. Che of my use of these images. I am willing to place some of his flickr image's from Mexico's Natl museum on Commons so that everyone (on all WP language web sites) can use them. Mr. Che took some pictures here from Mexico's national museum: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosemania/sets/72157594473726635/ If you wish, please give me a link to some pictures and a note on its identity. ie:

  • http// image X  : Olmec god/statue
  • http// image Y  : Aztec statue of ...X

Just let me know if there are any images which are useful. If you are knowledgeable on Mesoamerican art, you may know what they are. I don't upload objects which I cannot identify. I have to go now as its almost midnight here. I am only trying to help out, nothing more. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks useful

Thanks for the link - I've had a quick look at the photos and they look very useful - I've visited the museum in question several times and recognise many of the artifacts. I'll post links and identifications where possible, over the coming week or two. Simon Burchell (talk) 23:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First batch

 Olmec Head (Head 2) from San Lorenzo, Veracruz.

 Olmec - 
 Foreground: Monument 52 (seated were-jaguar) from San Lorenzo, Veracruz.
 Background: Olmec Head (Head 6) from San Lorenzo, Veracruz.

 Aztec -
 Statue of Coatlicue, the earth goddess, from Mexico City.

Simon Burchell (talk) 18:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Second Batch

 Aztec -
 The so-called Calendar Stone, from Mexico City.

 Teotihuacán
 Reconstruction of the facade of the Temple of the Feathered Serpent

 Olmeca-Xicalanca (Central Mexican/Maya) - Late Classic period.
 Reconstruction of murals from Cacaxtla in Tlaxcala.

Leoboudv - I'm not a specialist in the field, but a general interest in archaeology crystalised into a specific interest in Mesoamerica while spending some years living in the region, so it's a hobby...

Simon Burchell (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Query

re. query

  • It is actually Olmeca-Xicalanca, which should not be confused with the Olmec culture, which is a different culture entirely. The Olmeca-Xicalanca are from a much later time period (the Classic). While Cacaxtla is not a Maya site, it received very strong Maya influences in the Late Classic Period and the mural in the photo depicts a Maya eagle-warrior (possibly a forerunner of the later Aztec eagle warriors), with a mixed Central Mexican/Maya style of painting. You could place it in the Maya catalogue if nowhere else seems appropriate but it wouldn't be exactly right - still, Cacaxtla is sometimes mentioned in passing in books on the Maya, because Maya artists are usually considered to have painted the murals in this non-Maya site.

The Museo Nacional de Antopología is a very impressive museum with an extensive archaeological collection - it is very sad that there aren't more photos - I haven't been there for a few years so I can't remember their policy on photography, I think it's probably no flash photography, and it's not brilliantly lit, which might explain the lack of good quality images online.

Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Third Batch

 Coiled rattlesnake. Aztec. Not sure where this one was found but is very similar to an Aztec sculpture in the British Museum.

 Aztec. Macuilxochitl (Xochipilli) - Aztec god of song, dance and music.

 Aztec. Coatlicue (at left) and Xiuhtecuhtli-Huitzilopochtli (at right). Both from Coxcatlán, Tehuacan in Puebla state.
 Coatlicue is the earth-Mother goddess and goddess of the cycle of life and death.
 Xiuhtecuhtli-Huitzilopochtli is a god of fire and volcanoes.

 Reconstructions of Tenochtitlan, capital of the Aztecs - the centre of modern Mexico City.


Simon Burchell (talk) 18:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2nd batch

Dear Simon, That museum certainly allows photography. I have seen flickr images from this museum which are dated to as late as 2008. But since they are licensed as 'all rights reserved' or 'No Commercial' or 'No Derivates', they cannot be placed on WikiCommons. By the way, here is the second batch of images:

Here are the Commons images for the third batch:

Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I (try to) place images on WikiCommons (formally Wikimedia Commons) because they can then be used by all foreign language wiki sites. If an image was just uploaded on English WP, it can ONLY be used on English WP sites--not French, German, Spanish, Chinese, Indonesian etc WP sites. So, Commons images are preferred. If you have your own images that you may want to upload, I suggest you create an account here: [2] before you click the 'upload file' option to place pictures here. Cheers, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Leoboudv - I'll bear that in mind! Simon Burchell (talk) 09:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another set of flickr images

Tip: I just found another large set of freely licensed images on flickr by Ms. Jami (licensed as Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 or 'cc by sa 2.0') I just told Admin CJLL and Madman about it here today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CJLL_Wright#Can_you_identify_.26_place_these_images_on_Commons You should look at the web link to the set of images at the beginning of my post. (especially page 6-14 on the flickr page) The first set is only page 2 of her images: *http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamidwyer/sets/72157606952714490/?page=2

  • Note Simon: If you have identified some images from rosemania's site, pls feel free to place a link here. I think there are still some more good ones in it. But his site only has 26 images from the Mexican museum so I can certainly deal with them. The separate collection by Jami, however, is just massive. --Leoboudv (talk) 22:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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