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  • Past

1991 - Kosovo - (YU) Kosovo i Metohija - (kosovars) Republika e Kosoves > Kosovo War

  • Present

1999 - RESOLUTION 1244 (1999) - UNMIK - SM - Kosovars - UNMIK TD - Shadow goverment

  • Futur

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Prova

Nuk lejohen te kopjohen artikuj nga website te tjera pa pasur leje, eshte kundra rregullave. Dori | Talk 01:31, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

Per te gjithe shqipefolesit

Emrat e qyteteve shqiptare eshte mire qe te shkruhen sikurse te Wikipedia ne gjuhen shqipe ne trajten e shquar.

Kosovo city articles

Before renaming articles on Kosovo cities, could you please discuss it on the articles' talk pages? Their names are a very controversial question (as I'm sure you know) so please don't do it unilaterally. -- ChrisO 07:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

(en) SOK Statistical Office of Kosovo - (sr) Zavod za Statistiku (sq) Kosova - Enti i Statistikës së Kosovës (ESK).--Hipi Zhdripi 21:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Serbian Goverment
The Ende, Malo morgen --Hipi Zhdripi 01:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Everybody,who doesn´t accept UNMIK , but is writing for kosovo, is just making propaganda. it has nothing to do with english language. With people like that, i don t need to have a discussion. If you are able to accept UNMIK, than we can have a discussion.

First of all : UNMIK ! What does it mean ? UNMIK stands for United Nation Mission in KOSOVO. In Kosovo ! There are no words for Serbian teritory or things like that. If you would be so nice, to have a look to the homepage from UNMIK, you can see yourself : there are no words for Kosovo in serbian territory . They are just writing " ...in the war-ravaged province [1] of Kosovo... " Than you can read this :

  1. perform basic civilian administrative functions;
  2. promote the establishment of substantial autonomy and self-government in Kosovo;
  3. facilitate a political process to determine Kosovo's future status;
  4. coordinate humanitarian and disaster relief of all international agencies;
  5. support the reconstruction of key infrastructure;
  6. maintain civil law and order;
  7. promote human rights; and
  8. assure the safe and unimpeded return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo.

That means, Kosovo doesn t have a status( it s war - ravaged ! ). It s just a province, administrated by UNMIK,and nothing else. It doesn t belong to any other state or country. UNMIK is there to help the kosovars to decide for their future.Every other offical reference, like offical serbian - or offical albanian reference, is just propaganda. From that point of knowledge, our discussion is, like I would say Serbia or Albania is a province in China. All articles with the subject " Kosovo ", which have to do with information or references BEFORE the 10. june 1999 belongs to the article " History of Kosovo ". In an other case, I ll delete it , because i took it like propaganda and not like neutral information for Wikipedia. People in this discussion, who don t accept UNMIK, aren t neutral. They are living in an own dreamworld, what has nothing to do with reallity and they are using the Wikipedia for their own propaganda.

If somebody think, that I m wrong, please show me. But please argue with informations from an OFFICIAL document, accepted from UNMIK and not with an dokument from national offical propaganda informations. We can have a disskussion with facts from UNMIK, not with the past. Wikipedia stands for knowledge and shouldn t have to become a place for national propaganda, no matter if it s serbian or albanian propaganda. In other case serbian and albanian people will ravage it, like they ve ravaged Kosovo.--Hipi Zhdripi 21:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Names of places in Kosovo

Hello! I noticed in your contribs that you are "pushing" Albanian names for places in Kosovo (including Kosova). For example, you created a page Prizreni District, while there already is an article Prizren District. I am perfectly fine with and encourage the addition of Albanian names in every applicable article, but we need to respect that this is not an Albanian wiki, but an English one. So, for example, an English word for Albanian "Kosova" is "Kosovo" (e.g. [2] or [3]).

Also, "Prizren District" is named after the biggest city in it, which is: Prizren (which is the name in Albanian, English and Serbian), so the name of that district is "Prizren District" in English, and not "Prizreni District" (just like it's not "Prizrenski District").

Finally, you are kind of making a mess with adding "double articles". We need to think of a way to handle that. I hope you assume good faith, and help us work this out, without going against the community. --Dejan Cabrilo 01:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I am doing tha same that UNMIK is doing in Kosovo. For exampel: Pristina in english Pri-s-tina than is better Prishtina (Pri-sh-tina), Pec (Pe-c-), Gj-ilan is better Gnilan. So article Prishtina, redirect Pristina, article Gnilan rediret Gjilani. OK :)).
It's not very OK :) Just because UNMIK may or may not do it, does not mean that Wikipedia has to do the same thing. Kosovo is still called Kosovo and not Kosova in English. The problem is that you are making a mess. Don't just move an entire article without talking it over on a talk page first, ok? Now, please stop, we need to discuss it first! Thanks --Dejan Cabrilo 01:37, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Do you accept UNMIK? Yes OR No?--Hipi Zhdripi 01:39, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I understand that Kosovo is now under UNMIK's administration, but what does that have to do with anything? I am asking you to please discuss things before you make a huge step of moving an entire article. Wikipedia is not a tool to spread political ideology, and we are trying to be collaborative community here. So please, don't move any more articles, don't change names, before we discussed it. I will be the first one to support using Albanian names when no English name is present, but let's discuss it all first. You are making a huge mess. Please, once again, please, let's discuss it all first. There is no need for you to "reform" entire Wikipedia tonight! --Dejan Cabrilo 01:45, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Do you accept UNMIK? Yes OR No?
I am not religious, and I don't believe in UNMIK as a diety, so I can accept it or not. What the hell does that question mean? My answer is: "I don't know, please clarify". --Dejan Cabrilo 01:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
UNMIK is United Nations Mission in Kosovo do you accept? Yes OR No? (accept and contract this is importen for Kosovo article)--Hipi Zhdripi 02:05, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I know what UNMIK is, but I still don't understand your question. Anyway, UNMIK is not an authoratative linguistic source that we have to follow. Please, add any material regarding UNMIK to the relevant articles. That would be great! But don't just do stuff without discussing it first. UNMIK is in Kosovo for now, and what they do and how they do their administration is good information, so ADD it to articles, don't modify entire articles to your believes. Once again, is it so demanding of me to ask you discuss stuff first? --Dejan Cabrilo 02:12, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes/No?--Hipi Zhdripi 02:17, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Once again, I don't know, since I don't understand the question. Put it in context if you want an answer. --Dejan Cabrilo 02:21, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Everybody,who doesn´t accept UNMIK , but is writing for kosovo, is just making propaganda. it has nothing to do with english language. With people like that, i don t need to have a discussion. If you are able to accept UNMIK, than we can have a discussion.--Hipi Zhdripi 02:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Do you accept UNMIK? Yes OR No?--Hipi Zhdripi 02:30, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Once again, I do not understand your question. Yes, I am fully aware of the fact that Kosovo is under UNMIK's administration. Does that help? Stop insisting on "Yes OR No". It's childish and it's counterproductive for discussion. Now, here is my proposal: go to United Nations Mission in Kosovo. Create a list of administrative units that they have. When you gather enough information about one of them, then create an article, which would clearly describe that administrative area, and would clearly note that the article in question is about such an administrative area. Does that sound good? --Dejan Cabrilo 02:39, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You have answer

See my discussion page. Best regards, --M. Pokrajac 21:36, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See another answer there. --M. Pokrajac 21:57, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo- Kosovo i Metohija and Republic of Kosovo

I am really sorry, but I have no idea what you are trying to say. I protected those pages in response to a posting on this page. The three pages are all about the same place and probably should be merged and redirected. If you like leave me another message and hopefully I will understand what you are asking of me. Best Wishes! BrokenSegue 00:57, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Check after 85.70.52.185?

Could you please check Albania-related edits made by 85.70.52.185 (all of them)? Or ask someone else who knows history of the country.

All his edits related to Czech Republic were jokes or nonsense and this may be with Albania as well. Pavel Vozenilek 12:30, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maps

Hi. You uploaded several Kosovo maps:

They will delete your maps if you do not put a tag on them. If you draw these maps, then you can put them into "Public domain". If you do not know how to do this, you just ask me and I will put them into "Public domain", but I cant put them there if you do not agree with this. User:PANONIAN


[[:Image:Shepherd 526-600.jpg

There's no license or source, please add them or the image has to be deleted. --Saperaud 19:23, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. May I be of any assistence to you? P. S. What is that UMNIK problem??? respond on my page, please. HolyRomanEmperor 19:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. May I be of any assistence to you? P. S. What is that UMNIK problem??? respond on my page, please. HolyRomanEmperor 19:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. May I be of any assistence to you? P. S. What is that UMNIK problem??? respond on my page, please. HolyRomanEmperor 19:22, 29 October 2005 (UTC) Image:Shepherd 526-600.jpg[reply]

Serbophobia

Quote: "Hi, you can vote here about so called "Serbofobia" article. Serbofobia. It seems as I saw in sr wikipedia that Serbs are asking their membership to vote for the article which is based on propaganda. You can leave your opinion in above page...Thanks. --Emir Arven 16:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)"--Albanian since Stone Age 19:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo/Kosova

Hi! I saw that you created several templates (and other stuff) with the Kosova name. As this is the name used by the majority of the local population, it wouldn't pose no problem if this wasn't the English wikipedia. But, due to internationalism policy, I will notify you to use Kosovo instead (the same situation would happen if someone uses Kosovan instead of Kosovar, although this one is actually being used in the world slightly) All the best! --HolyRomanEmperor 13:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Serb clans and List of Serbian monarchs

Wenn I read this articel, I was thinking Balkan is in Serbia. Sorry but Serbia is only a part of Balkan.

Rascia (Raška) it was a Bizantin Rulers Bosnia (Bosna) it was a Bizantin Rulers Doclea / Zeta it was a Bizantin Rulers Zahumlje / Hum it was a Bizantin Rulers Travunia (Travunja, Terbounia) it was a Bizantin Rulers Pagania / it was a Bizantin Rulers No one of this "Serbian monarchs" is Serb they belong to Bizant Rulers.--Hipi Zhdripi 14:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

and

Way Serb clans, hier are Montenegros and Albaniens clans? The Montenegro clans are not Serb clans??? --Hipi Zhdripi 13:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

They was orthodox clans bot not Serb clans. Is not so simply to say evry orthodox clans belong to Serb clans. They was part of Bizantin clans and not part of Serb clans.--Hipi Zhdripi 13:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Could you define what you meant here? Thanks in advance! --HolyRomanEmperor 14:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the articel is wrong. --Hipi Zhdripi 02:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well - say why and suggest what could be better. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the article is " Serbian monarchs ". There s written about montnegrian and albanian clans, which have been under byzantin empire. --Hipi Zhdripi 20:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I noticed that you voted in this RFA. Actually, that RFA closed last August. No more votes are being taken. User:Cool Cat is not currently running for admin on the English Wikipedia. However, he has requested adminship on the Wikimedia Commons: [4]. Did you mean to cast your vote there? Best, FreplySpang (talk) 21:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks--Hipi Zhdripi 21:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

?

The List of Serbian monarchs is refering to all the rulers who were Serbs as well as rulers whop ruled over the Serbs (regardless of their nationality).

The Serb Clans refers to the coastal clans. What did you mean? --HolyRomanEmperor 11:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong--Hipi Zhdripi 18:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About what - could you be more specific, please? --HolyRomanEmperor 20:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They are not Serbs. Is man from USA, Canadien or Mexikan?--Hipi Zhdripi 21:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But what persicely do you mean? Go to the list of Serbian rulers and tell me who/why should not be there! HolyRomanEmperor 09:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
??? --HolyRomanEmperor 21:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you...

If you find anything incorrect, you should state what; and not argue that it's incorrect like you're doing now... --HolyRomanEmperor 14:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A i kthen përgjigjet ti?

E pranoj UNMIK-un, kontaktom Aeternus 14:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oshtë interesant një gjë që nuk e prnon vetë ti shtishë të tjerët ta pranojnë. Une vetë nuk e pranojë po e zhfrytëzojë. hahah --Hipi Zhdripi 00:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tung Hipi Zhdripi

me kishe shkru ne faqe time. Cka me te ndihmu se nuk e kisha te qarte.flm tung,Ilir pz 21:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Po nuk po e kuptoi mirë përkufizimin e fjalës "Disctric". Po më duket se në bazë të përkufizimit mundemi me argumentua se nuk ka nevojë të lidhen artikujt mbi komunat dhe Kosovën me Serbin (së paku) as me SM.

Të lutem nëse ke mundësi ta vërtetosh nëse e kam të drejt. Nëse e vërteton se kam të drejt, mundemi me argumentua ashtu si po mendojë unë, atëherë Zhdripi e vazhdon punën që ti ndajë artikujt e Kosovës nga ata të Serbisë. Nëse jo atëherë Zhdripi duhet të pushojë për një kohë. Përndryshe do të ja ndalin punën Hipi Zhdripit dhe ajo nuk krijon një imigjë të mirë në përgjithësi në wikipediat. Hipit nuk ja ninë ai e vazhdon deri sa të ka kohë.

Deri tani i kam tërhequr "Distriktat e Millosheviqit" se ato kuqysh nuk bonë me konë ashtu sepse krahinat në kohen e tij nuk kanë ekzistua. Nëse dojin me i majt ata qashtu atëherë duhet me hekë gjitha artikujt të shënuar me Kosovën, Serbi se nuk është logjike. Ose është një krahinë autonome (atëherë Serbia nuk ka drejtë në vendosjen e qeverisjes lokale) ose nuk ekziston. Pasi që ajo nuk ekziston ato "Distrikte" mbesin si histori e Kosovës që janë përdorur nga administrata e Millosheviqit dhe nga ambasadat e SM në disa shtete të Evropës si "Distrikte" nën-tokë pas shpinës së UNMIKUT. shpresoj se nuk të lodha.

Upss! Jam duke provuar që ta krijojmë një bazë për këtë çështje që të ndërtojim një sistem për të gjitha gjuhët e Wikipedias. Ashtu që të mund të përcjellim zhvillimet. Mos harro për spiunazh as UDBA nuk u konë ma e fort se SIGURIMI, kemi traditë për mbledhjen e informatave por jo edhe për përdorimin e tyre.--Hipi Zhdripi 21:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tung Hipi. Te kisha keshillu me i lone faqen e tyne te Serbise mos me nguc njehere, e nese nuk ndalen tu na prishe faqen tone te Kosoves, atehere merremi vesh edhe marrim masa. Patjeter qe ato shenime ne ate faqe jane skandaloze. Na nuk duhet me leju qe ne faqen e Kosoves keta me na nguc. Besa disa edhe ne faqen per shqiptaret kane hi e po bejne dem. Une po mundohem sa po muj me i ndale disa. District dmth si ne Shqipni "bashkia" ose edhe ne Kosove si "komuna" . E verejta punen tende, per krijimin e wikiprojectit per Kosoven. Te pergezoj per punen. Do te mundohem me gjete kohe edhe me te ndihmu edhe aty, po per momentin duhet me i ndale keta pisa prej faqes, e as per ate spo kam kohe se jam tu mesu per shkolle.. Suksese, te pershendes, Ilir pz 23:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Gjithashtu Zhdripi, masi the qe mundesh me mbledhe informata, te lutem me dergo faqet e internetit cka gjen, ne anglisht mundesisht, edhe te kemi fakte, e une te ndihmoj me i argumentu ma sakte ne anglisht mandej, edhe jau marrim anen ne faqen e Kosoves. Ilir pz 23:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pak si vonë e bona shka e pata njet. Po nuk munesh mi nalë vetem. Duhesh me gjetë "miq". E ata i gjonë në mesin e tyne. Edhe pse e di që ka me pasë probleme e bona tashti oshtë vonë. Po si do që të jetë e marrim veshë sa vetë janë aktiv. Ata me siguri ma mushin fleten tashti mu. Ku e ki emrin e malazezëve ti. Ti po dinë guhen e tyne. Mbrojë interesat e Malazezëve. --Hipi Zhdripi 23:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
ide e mire ajo me i pa sa jane aktive. Nja tu ka lshu vec, po mos ju pergjigj hic e ai plas, vec jepja faktet e Kosoves si i dime ne, edhe si i pranon bashkesia nderkombetare, e deklaratat nacionaliste te tyne vec perbuzi. Nese me bjen rasti per me pa naj faqe per Malazez, do ta perkrahi, patjeter. Edhe ata kane te drejte me u pavarsu. flasim pra, Ilir pz 23:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Stop with Vandalismus

Did you mean Vandalism? Don't switch between Latin and English. :) And, I'm not deleting people's work, I am expanding articles. Also, see the talk page full of my arguements. What did you mean? --HolyRomanEmperor 16:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All you arguemts you can put in Serbians Mitologie. This candy of arguments are not acceptet from USA, UK and UN. --Hipi Zhdripi 16:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've been to the Free States of America and I just adore them. Most of the info that I upload is from the US of A. :) And the UN, well... just see the talk pages, most sources are UN. And for the British, except for my BBC sources, I can't see that the United Kingdom will do much good. :)))

Mozes li reci na sto si tacno mislio? --HolyRomanEmperor 18:26, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im not interesin in personal war with you. Im locing for the Wikipedia als global project.--Hipi Zhdripi 18
28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Problem?

Hi, what is the problem with HolyRomanEmperor? What are the affected articles, can I help (make them NPOV only)? --NikX 18:40, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your question

What exactly you asked me to do on my talk page? What is problem with that discussion? PANONIAN (talk) 18:51, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]