User talk:Audacity

Linkspam?

I noticed you removed an external link from Conventional warfare, citing it as linkspam. Why? The article linked to is well-written, well-sourced, knowledgable on the subject, and is a reasonably complete analysis of conventional warfare. It contains "neutral and accurate material not already in the article" and "meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion" - both criteria that qualify an external link in WP policy. While I understand the need to prevent spam on WP, I can't see this would be such a case. uriah923^(talk) 20:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll give you another day, and then I'm going to put the link back on. uriah923^(talk) 14:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, it says right at the bottom of your own talk page that "there is a clear consensus that links to ON should not be in Wikipedia articles unless added by a longstanding contributor, and not prompted by Uriah." thejabberwock 17:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

The issue you bring up is in the past. There was concern for a certain period of time that any link to an article published on OmniNerd was spam, as I had added lots of them and am an administrator on that site. However, since then I've proved my "loyalty" to building a quality encyclopedia (see my user page and contributions) and ceased adding any links myself to avoid violating NPOV. Thus, the conflict is in the past and things can proceed as normal. In this case, then, we should evaluate the situation as I outlined above. In other words, you should evaluate the link you removed according to WP policy with the intent to build a quality encyclopedia. What do you think of the link within that context? uriah923^(talk) 20:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

It appears that the issue has been resolved. Thanks for your help, anyway. uriah923^(talk) 14:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Check-up

You're going to check on me, eh? You won't be the first. uriah923^(talk) 15:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

No offense meant - I was glad to work with you on Conventional warfare, and I'd like to continue the process of including information from ON into Wikipedia. Maybe you could ask me about ON articles that would provide valuable links, and I'll back you up (or advise against their inclusion). thejabberwock 02:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the ON thing goes way too deep for me to get into at this point. thejabberwock 04:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks much for answering my question about Userboxes! And thanks especially for not berating me for being a dorky newbie.  ;) Estreya 15:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks to you for the idea of putting the userboxes in a table. thejabberwock 19:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

golden age 'of' hip hop

why'd you make this move? Nothing links to golden age 'of' hip hop, because that phrase isn't used. per Wikipedia:Naming conventions, the more common phrase should be the article name. unfortunately, since you made this move, we can't move it back without an admin. please don't do this to old school hip hop, and please post this on Wikipedia:Requested moves to be moved back. Thanks, --Urthogie 17:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd be happy to move it back if you want me to do so immediately. I have to disagree, though, that "golden age hip hop" is used more. Letting "golden age hip hop" be no (don't include "of") and "golden age of hip hop" be yes (include "of"):

• no gives 8 unique results in main space
• yes gives 10 unique results in main space
• no not yes gives 2 unique results in main space
• yes not no gives 7 unique results in main space

I did change Template:hiphop to link to "golden age of hip hop," but I don't think this affected the Google results.

My initial reason for moving was that the "golden age hip hop" article started with (and still does start with) "The golden age of hip hop, derivative of old school hip hop..." Upon further reflection, another reason for the change is that "golden age of hip hop" is a noun, while "golden age hip hop" is an adjective; adjectives should redirect to nouns per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Redirect_adjectives_to_nouns. And "golden age hip hop" just sounds wrong to me. What do you think?

I think I've been keeping up with the double redirects. Let me know if I miss any. TheJabberwock 17:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, good points. I'm gonna move it to The golden age of hip hop, though.--Urthogie 12:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Saw your legalization of cannabis userbox

This user DOES NOT use drugs but supports the legalization and regulation of Marijuana

Wanted to show you a new one I created, which when used from a user page without the stamp argument, adds your userpage to Category:Pro-cannabis Wikipedians. It takes a slightly different and complimentary angle. I'm proud of the fact that the first user to place it (after me) was also drug-free.

StrangerInParadise 23:48, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The design is certainly better, but I like the old message more. The new one is too whiny for me. Thanks. TheJabberwock 00:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Problem?

I saw your comment on Taxman's talk page. I have to say that I'm disappointed; I thought I had found someone dedicated to objectivity. I must rescind my previous offer to support a future adminship for you (if such should ever become a possibility). uriah923^(talk) 13:51, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Even objective people have to make a decision at some point. Your preceding comment ("If you refuse, then I guess it's back to endless arguing") was probably the deciding factor. TheJabberwock 00:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You're Right

Bullies just make me lose my temper. I'll put it back. Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 05:43, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Provocation

I think the key right now for me seems to be saving face. I don't understand what people are talking about in regards to the welcoming considering my perceptions on the matter, but if I could hear Jimbo or somebody at his level say something like...

"Karmafist, we appreciate all you've done here on Wikipedia, and we would like you to stay, and we recognize that in order for that to happen that there need to be some changes, but you'll have to trust that things can be done through current channels and your signature not only isn't necessary, but it's making the situation unfortunately worse. Please, let us work together to make Wikipedia a better place."

If I saw that on my talk page, i'd change my sig in a second. I guess it's partially my fault that I didn't think that was possible in the first place given the atmosphere following the Userbox Wars(AGF is fine, but assuming once you should be knowing is just plain gullibility), but I hope to establish good faith from here on if possible, but it's going to take that first step. Jimbo said he'd do something like that, so I can wait for now, but if I think he just sees me as a sucker and will say anything to get me to contributing to his website again, that good faith is gone and I see no more options to work from within Wikipedia. Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 13:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I can't believe it didn't occur to me that that find-and-replace would break those links. :-)

Ooh, Reed! :-) In all honesty, I think going to Reed is the best possible decision I could have made. "Extreme academic workload" I think would describe my life right now very well. My first quarter here I managed well by cutting my Wikipedia usage to near-zero on the weekdays. Now I get by, constantly sleep-deprived and always behind, and, since I'm one of those that refuses to caffeinate myself, free time is severely limited. An I enjoy it. That's one of the things I think you have to understand to get this place; sure we all complain, but we love it. The conference-style classes really permeate the whole atmosphere here. In the beginning it was disconcerting for me, but once you get used to it, and engage yourself, it is difficult to imagine anything better. As for politics, I think any reputation of that kind is overrated. College-age is still the most underrepresented group in the vote, and so while most people are very good anti-Bush-ites, most of the people are indifferent and stuck in the Reed bubble most of the time. And the few genuinely conservative people I know (i.e. are often the international students) do fine. As for drug usage: a lot of it is blatant, but, if that is not your thing (as it is not mine), in my experience it's really something you have to seek out to get involved with anyway. And to be sure there are plenty of tame substance-free dorms, and substance free people, too.

I hope you'll consider it. You may want to talk to JesseW (maybe he can fill you in on the drug use :-) who lives in my dorm, and Zora, an alum. Dmcdevit·t 04:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

User Page Award nomination

You nominated Mailer diablo's userpage for Esperanza's User Page Award, but it was a past winner (you obviously have good taste), which is why I removed it. Just wanted to let you know! -- Natalya 18:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I should have known! Thanks, TheJabberwock 19:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

WP's an encyclopedia

How about if it's bold? I'd prefer it that way--much, much easier to read. (Oh, and you obviously have excellent taste in music. ) Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 07:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. I grew up in WH, went to Hall, went to college in VT and still live here. See you around. Propound 11:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Tony Sidaway

Sorry for the delay, I never agreed to anything there, because nothing happened, as usual. Karmafist ^{Save Wikipedia} 23:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Spanish leet-speak

La palabra que trataba de hacer es "problemas". (R es difícil.) Lo siento, pero congratulations para tus intentos. Causaste que yo esté feliz. Gracias... ¡feliz editar! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 04:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Quizá... pues, trataba de decir "You got any problem wit dat, bub?" o algo... así, no me importó que no fuera perfecta... todovía, lo cambiaré. Gracias otra vez. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 18:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Dudo que "bub" vaya a ser necesario, pero gracias. ;) Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 19:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem

Hi, I was about to send you a vandalism warning, but looked at your contributions first, and decided that your revert of my edit was an accident. I did once hit rollback by accident myself!  :-) AnnH ♫ 19:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks & Help

Your changes to Template:Good Job are great; thanks. Since you seem to be an expert on templates, could you help me with User:Iamthejabberwock/Welcome? When I use, for example, {{subst:User:Iamthejabberwock/Welcome|user=|article=Wikipedia|topic=Rush|portal=Music}} - for welcoming an anonymous user who edited Wikipedia, is interested in Rush and might want to visit Portal:Music - it produces a result that looks good, but contains the original variable formatting: {{{anon| }}}. Could you advise me of a way to either (1) stop this formatting from being included or (2) switch to a more effecient method of varying the contents of the message? Thanks, TheJabberwock 02:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I'd suggest combining the 'user' and 'anon' parameters into a 'type' parameter. Something like;

{{switch
|{{{type}}}
|case: anon=<text for anon>
|default=<text for registered user>}}
...
This will automatically produce your username {{switch|{{{type}}}|case: anon=(or IP address)}} and the date.

If you set '|type=anon' in the call you'd get the text for an anon user. If you set 'type' to anything else, or don't set it at all, you'd get the text for a registered user. --CBDunkerson 11:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, sorry I misunderstood what you were looking for. I hadn't looked into suppressing 'code' on substituted text before, but there is a way to do it. What you need to do is add a parameter that you place after the {{, but before the template name, on every template call. For example, {{{{{hide|}}}switch|<whatever>}}. Then, when you call the template you set that parameter to substitute the template (i.e. |hide=subst:). You can't just put 'subst:' directly in the code of your welcome page because if you did it would evaluate at THAT time without whatever parameters you are passing in, but if you pass in 'subst:' as a parameter it'll evaluate at the same time and you should get text only. A bit convoluted, but that's the only way I can think of to do it. --CBDunkerson 21:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Looking good

Your changes look good. No need to go through and update last seen and add comments to them all I think. More trouble that it's worth. They wont be needed for those that age off and the long term ones can be commented as they return. It might also be better to just order by date added, but we'll try with last seen date and see how much work it is to keep sorted that way. --GraemeL ^(talk) 17:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Reed College

Reed College is a good place for scholars and weirdos. One major drawback: somehow, it inculcates the message that academia is the highest aim to which one can aspire. An incredibly high proportion of the student body goes on to grad school and the professoriate. Given the dire state of things in academia these days (gross over-supply of PhDs, adjunctification), this is not a good thing for students. Are you a realist? An experimentalist? Can you think of careers other than the professoriate? If so, you may survive Reed.

Why I ended up at Berkeley: money. After a year and a half at Reed, during which I studied fiercely and partied hard, my mother searched my suitcase, found the birth control pills, and demanded that I grovel at her feet and abjure my hippie ways or she would stop making the tiny contributions that she WAS making to my college education. I refused to grovel, she cut me off. That meant that I couldn't get any more student loans. I had to drop out of school for a year and establish myself as an emancipated minor to get my loans back. I went back to Reed for one more year after that, then looked at the mounting loan totals and transferred to UC Berkeley, which at California resident rates, was a damn sight cheaper.

I recommended Reed to my daughter and she ended up at Mills, in Oakland, where she has access to all the classes at Berkeley. As a friend said, "The mango doesn't fall far from the tree." Even if it thinks it is rebelling. Zora 19:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Hip hop music

hi Jabberwock -- thanks for the note. I was reverting what seemed like a continued series of vandalism by one person, first as an IP and then as a new registered user. I had already left a message on the IP's page, and it seemed clear to me that it was the same person (they used some of the same words, as I recall) and that they knew what they were up to. I guess I figured that reverting it silently was as effective and slightly easier. Maybe I was just a bit lazy... sometimes when it seems like a drive-by vandalism, I don't say anything, because there doesn't seem to be any point in alerting them that I've reverted. but in a case of repeating vandalism like this, next time I'll add a note. thanks! bikeable (talk) 19:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I noticed you edited a Hip Hop related article. If you wish you can join the new Hip Hop Wikiproject.

--Chubdub 17:13, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Changes

He, I noticed your changes to Grade School and for the most part they are great. The only problem is this code:

|-
|[[<article name>]]
|~~~~~
|{{<template name>}}
|<comments>
|~~~

I would discourage from using ~~~~~. Since I think the date looks neater when typed.

• Manual: April 19, 2006
• Template: 02:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

What do you think? &#150; Tutmøsis (Talk) 02:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I replied on the talk page. TheJabberwock 04:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy editing. TheJabberwock 15:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree that edit summaries are very important. TheJabberwock 15:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza

Welcome, Audacity, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member, you might be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles.

I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee, JoanneB, Titoxd and FireFox. The April elections have begun.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact me via email or talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, please see the IRC Tutorial, which was written by one of our members. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to be!

Thanks! _-M ^o P-_ 22:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to welcome you as well :) — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 00:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Metallica

Well, they actually do have a lot of good songs with messages; the whole Master of Puppets (album) is about themes of control (Battery is violence and anger controlling you, Master of Puppets itself is about drugs controlling you, and so on) is very well played out, and songs such as Blackened and Fight Fire with Fire are well written, subtly anti-war songs. I still like Metallica, only St.Anger was (to be frank) a very large dissappointment, and their approach into alternative rock does turn me off a bit. But nice talking to you, and feel free to come over to my talk page if you ever see any need to do so. Cheers! :D _-M ^o P-_ 02:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Why? reply...

Ah... Thank you for not being hostile in your message to me. On Wikipedia we are all working on a common goal, so it's important that we can work together even when we disagree. We need to communicate to help bring people together, but when people post rants they drive people apart rather than bring people together. I had assumed you were aware of this, but choose to disregard it in an effort to further your vision that is something other than a free encyclopedia with the knowledge of the world built by people working together. I apologize for making that assumption. In the future, however, could you try to avoid posting broadcast theses on how you disagree with people? I understand why it hurt to see the userpage changed, because I understand how it hurts to see our encyclopedia project messed up by people who are furthering argument rather than cooperation. If you have a disagreement thats worth discussing, take it up one-on-one, don't try to enlist the world. Wiki isn't about free speech, it's about cooperation. Open access means anyone can help, not that anyone can do whatever you want. If you are going to be hurt by people making changes to your userpage, you should put it someplace other than wikipedia and link to it, then you set the rules. I hope none of this makes you less interested in continuing your work here. I'm sorry for upsetting you. --Gmaxwell 03:24, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your message. I'm sorry for not giving an explanation, that slipped my mind. Oghmoir 16:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Re:Userboxes

All in a day's work, citizen. ;) --D-Day^{(Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?}) 23:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Autoedit

I saw you used my autoedit link on eraser. That happened to me 2 times: [1] and [2], but I reverted them both immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs)

Re: your comments to docGlasgow

I'm going to honor doc's decision to close the thread, and post my comments directly to you. These stupid userboxes annoy me a great deal, but I'm too committed to improving Wikipedia to be alienated by them. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 13:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm back!!

After a year I decided to finally come back and stop whining like a little baby. I apologize to the whole of Wikipedia. I'll be spending a significant majority of my time over at WIkibooks though. My keyboard won't let me make tilda's. So, this post is signed by Jaberwocky6669 at 5:44 PM -5:00 GMT on April 26, 2006.

• I found my tilda key! My keyboard was set to UK after I installed XP! Jaberwocky6669 16:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanx

I'm so glad you like it! ImpuMozhi 03:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

RE:Adios

This is my last (couple or so) days and since I am only checking in to respond to messages I recieve, I would like to say the same; I would have liked to got to know you too. I am really waiting to hear something to force me to come back to, but I haven't heard anything yet. As it stands, I am unneeded. Thanks for the message. Moe ε 04:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

While I find it funny that I was just compared to an Earthworm, that still doesn't fix Wikipedia's problems. Thanks for the analogy though. ;-) Moe ε 04:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

PS. I found this funny. Moe ε 04:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem!

Hey, no problem! I usually do that, though; if I see an interesting discussion on some pages or something similar, I'll click around a bit and add things to my watchlist; it only takes a few seconds but lets me befriend lots of people to complete my plan of global domination become more of a member of the Wikipedia community. And I too have been vandalised a few times by my classmates (note to self: never tell them you have a Wikipedia account :P). Cheers! :D— Preceding unsigned comment added by Master of Puppets (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the mods to my welcome template

Thanks for fixing up my welcome template. Feel free to make any other improvements you feel necessary. Now I have to go fix my monobook due to your changes. :P Thanks again. MyNameIsNotBob 13:51, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Divisive userboxes

There aren't any such thing. This whole thing is in the mind of a select few Administrators. If you believe in Libertarianism, would it be too much trouble to ask you to support the undeletion of "anti-" userboxes? Thanks! --Dragon695 00:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

This is Moe

Hello Iamthejabberwock, just thought I would let you know that I was leaving Wikipedia, but before I left, I finally got a picture of thyself onto Wikipedia. (I know great timing for me to post a picture of myself, right?) This is my final gift to my friends. Later! PS. Try not to laugh to hard at my ugly mug ok? Moe ε 15:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Illmatic

Hello. I would like to thank you for all your contributions to the wkikhiphop project. However, I was wondering if you could proof read the article for any "innapropriate" or "unencylcpediec" words (Despite, In fact etc). This appears to be one of the reasons why a user has opposed the article's nomination --Chubdub 20:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all the work! Chubdub 01:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Charlie Kaufman Hall '76

Hey Dan,

Here's an official source: http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/filmography.html?p_id=271315, which notes that Charlie "attended junior high and high school in West Hartford, Connecticut, where his family moved in 1972."

But my best source isn't available on the net: I'm a Hall High grad myself (Class of 2003). After hearing that Charlie had been a true-blue Warrior, I checked out the 1976 Hallmarks at the school library. Sure enough, there he was -- complete with Jewfro and a blurb about the drama department. I believe his parents still live in West Hartford. Personally I think he's one of our most accomplished graduates.

All best,

--Mike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.141.80 (talk • contribs)

Welcome templates

I have found a much better way to put an automatic SUBST in the welcome templates other than typing {{Some Welcome Template|nocode=SUBST}}. Just put {{<includeonly>SUBST:</includeonly>PAGENAME}} into the message. Then it will only SUBST the pagename on the user talk page, and not in the template, and you don't have to put nocode=subst. But, the problem is, if you don't SUBST the welcome template, then it doesn't work. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 23:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know there was an entire section of a page devoted to <includeony> tags. The page is here. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 02:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

List of Backmasked Messages

I have records with those songs by CMX (CD-single called "Jatkuu niinkuin sade" (Goes on like rain) and triple-CD-collection "Cloaca Maxima II") and Pääkköset (LP called "Pääkköset"). I also had that song by Juice Leskinen in C-cassette. I have listened them (forward and backwards) and they really sound like those messages have been intentionally added. Pääkköset said in some interview that they had added "satanic message" to their song intentionally. --juhtolv 06:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Your message on the speedy deletion of Template:CharacterStats really made my day. Thanks very much for your help, it reminds me that most admins are benign and helplful :) DavidMcKenzie 08:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Your public watchlist

I would suggest making a public watchlist in the same format as mine by using {{watchlistlink}}, {{watchlistlink2}}, {{watchlistlink3}}, and {{watchlistlink4}}. Mine creates a watchlist out of a page of links or a category. So, you could have a page with links to different IP talk pages, and it will make a watchlist out of that, or you can make a watchlist out of a category. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 04:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't think I use the watchlist in the same way as you. My sites aren't really grouped by topic, and I wouldn't want to be watching all the pages in a category. TheJabberwʘck 01:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Why not just make a watchlist out of all of the links on that page. It would look like:

• Template:Watchlistlink3. If you click on that watchlist link, it generates a watchlist out of all the links on that page. This way, you don't have to do it by topic. But, if you still don't want to use it, then whatever. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 01:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I just have a link to [3] in my Firefox toolbar. TheJabberwʘck 01:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I use firefox too. I hate IE. That is why I created this userbox: {{User browser hate:Microsoft Internet Explorer}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs)

Haha, that's good. Careful, though, if Doc Glasgow notices it he'll probably speedy delete it. Do you know about IE Tab? TheJabberwʘck 02:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Doc glaslow probably will speed delete it if he reads this discussion and clicks on the link to the template. And, no, I haven't heard of IE Tab. But, have you heard of this firefox theme called Luna Blue? It kind-of defeats one of the purposes of having firefox over IE. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 02:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

IE Tab does too. It's great for JavaScript stuff like email (Yahoo mail only works to a limited extent on Firefox). I don't use themes on the computer which I'm on now, which is really old and slow. But I'll check out Luna Blue on my other comp. TheJabberwʘck 02:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't like Luna Blue, because it is just like IE. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 02:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: welcome

Thank you, however, Captain scarlet was wrong about the vandalism. This is mainly because the newbie test template was placed in error. It is (as I'm sure you can guess) intended for newbie test edits (along the lines of "can I really edit this?" or random formatting), whereas Captain scarlet instead used it to justify reverting edits they didn't agree with. In particular, I direct you to the very next section, which states:

It is generally acceptable to remove misplaced vandalism tags ...

Thanks, 81.104.165.184 07:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

However, although the first warning template may have been "misplaced," the subsequent ones were certainly not

Not quite sure what you meant by this (since none of my edits were niewbie tests or vandalism), but I did try and raise attention from others, but in typical fashion, it was ignored. Thanks, 81.104.165.184 09:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not having false and erroneous warnings left on my talk page just because someone didn't agree with me. That's not what the messages are for, and I'd ask you to respect the fact that the messages are on my talk page, and I shall remove them as I see fit. I don't know what you're trying to achieve, but User:Captain scarlet has a considerable history of poor co-operation, so I object to being labelled a vandal because another problem user disagrees with me. Thanks. 81.104.165.184 09:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I should point out the background of this issue. User:Captain scarlet and User:81.104.165.184 were in a content dispute on the article High Speed Train; you can see the discussion (showing that Captain scarlet was entirely aware that this was a content dispute) on Talk:High Speed Train. Captain scarlet apparently eventually became frustrated and accused 81.104.165.184 of vandalism; the exact edit claimed as vandalism is this one. It is, it should be noted, indisputably not vandalism, and as illustrated above Captain scarlet must have been aware of this; knowingly placing a false talk-page warning on someone's page is clearly abuse-of-tags vandalism, and therefore Captain scarlet's original addition of the tag was straightforward act of vandalism. Vandalism, even to talk pages, can be swiftly reverted by anyone; there are no special provisions in the rules to provide protection for tags beyond that accorded to normal, non-vandal comments, and therefore a warning tag placed as vandalism can be instantly reverted by any user... and, in any case, arguing that users must leave vandalism on their talk pages simply makes no sense. If that were the case, every vandal-fighter's user talk page would be nothing but an endless mess of warnings placed by irate vandals. Vandal fighters do revert such warnings, all the time, and the only reason nobody comments on it is because they're not nameless IPs and therefore nobody feels the urge to WP:BITE them. --Aquillion 00:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Watchlisttalk

Instead of having {{{1}}} and {{{2}}}, should we have {{{namespace}}} and {{{page}}}? --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 04:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, what do you think? I guess it's easier as is, and less clutter on a watchlist page. TheJabberwʘck 04:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I gotta go. I'll talk to you tomorrow. TheJabberwʘck 04:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't have to go to sleep for a while. I'm in California, so right now it is 9:14 PM. I know your time is later, because you're in Connecticut. I think we should leave the template the way it is. --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 04:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. TheJabberwʘck 22:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Marijuana Wiki

Hi there,

I see that you are a pro-Cannabis Wikipedian so I hope this will be of some interest to you.

I've started a Marijuana wiki (aka The Sticky Wiki) which I think you might be interested in. I'm hoping you can help me get started with this project. Whereas lots of articles about weed get speedy-deleted on Wikipedia, they would be totally cool over at MarijuanaWiki. But really I want the site to be more of a marijuana community than merely an encyclopedia.

To give you an example, I want to have city guides about where to score, find pot-friendly cafes, marijuana events, and what represents a good price in that city. Etc. (You can check out the featured article: "Toronto" to see what I mean). I also want to have grow diaries and marijuana blogs. All in all, basically more communal than encyclopedic.

I am in need of admins/moderators, and people experienced with MediaWiki to help build policy, categories, and templates, etc. If you'd be interested in helping me with this project, the URL is MarijuanaWiki

Thanks for your time and consideration. Hope to see you there!

-- nsandwich 23:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. Actually, the site is not explicitly pro-marijuana. I'm hoping to turn it into a large knowledgebase about the plant. Thus, articles about the legalization debate (and health effects, and how to build a bong, and the dangers of pot) are all very much our bread and butter. If you can help in that way, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :) -- nsandwich 00:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Illmatic

As a official publication, I think it looks more formal capitalized. Besides, the table would look pretty bad if there is mixed capitalization. P.O.N.Y. 01:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. You're right. Both words need to be capitalized. Mistake on my part P.O.N.Y. 01:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Userbox

AD	The user is against the mass deletion of userboxes

• Obviously divisive. I removed the category before posting here. Mackensen (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Personal templates

Hi, with regard to Template:Tls2, personalised template should not be in the general template space. If they are, they are normally deleted on sight. Rather than do that, I have moved this into your userspace as User:Iamthejabberwock/Tls2. Tou may like to know that you can still transclude pages from your userpage by placing {{}} rounf them. Thanks. --Doc ^ask? 21:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone vandalized your page

I reverted this edit on your userpage by 69.177.236.78 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). I think you might want to warn him yourself. --GeorgeMoney ^T·C 23:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Some friends of mine also think it's funny that I spend alot of time on Wikipedia too, but they have accounts. BTW, is that the same friend who vandalized your userpage and turned it "gangstery", then you and Moe Epsilon warned him in "gangster talk"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs)

List of prank flash animations

deletion of this page has occurred before, and has simply led to the main prank flash article becoming a spam magnet. thats why it was recreated again after that (i believe twice). therefore its better to leave this page up. its the best way to keep the spam away from the main prank flash article. Zzzzz 01:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:User bemused

As you asked to see the template which doc glasgow deemed "trolling", I thought I'd let you know that it can still be seen on my user page (scroll down to the bottom). Thanks. --Chips Critic 16:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out

I think that happened during a very "hot" period of vandal attacks. Hard to keep up sometimes. It was my intent...at the time...to backtrack and check up on that one. It didn't "feel" right when I clicked it. VandalProof can be a little TOO convenient sometimes. Ol' Dick Cheese makes an appearance on lots of pages. Who knew he might fit in on that one. Feel free to correct my faux. Cheers and take care! Anger22 01:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Hola

It's unpronouncable to hu-mans. =) (`Zay-os-`flux) is pretty close though. I don't really think I'm taking sides, because I don't think it's about sides. I would LOVE to see a workable Userbox Policy, Category Policy, etc; but withstanding one I'm against doing things that will make editors be annoyed and leave the project; and even more so in wasting peoples time. Admins should represent the community, not dictate it. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:39, 11 May 2006 (UTC)