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Adoption of "Will to Life" article

I've noticed that the distinctly Schopenhauerian concept "Will-to-Life" and its article is strangely estranged from the articles of the great philosopher himself. I've added a sentence linking the article to Arthur Schopenhauer. Comicreader13 (talk) 10:20, 24 September 2017 (UTC)Comicreader13[reply]

Justification for the edits in the philosophy section

I deleted one paragraph in the section on his metaphysical voluntarism, and since it is the work of someone else which I dare to throw away, I believe a good justification is needed on my part. The introduction on Hegel and Kant is without sources. It says that Schopenhauer criticizes Hegel and Kant for their logical optimism, but Schopenhauer does this nowhere (his criticisms of Kant deal with epistemology and ethics, and regarding Hegel, that he is not a philosopher). Even if "Hegel had popularized the concept of Zeitgeist, the idea that society consisted of a collective consciousness that moved in a distinct direction, dictating the actions of its members." it is unclear what this should tell us about Schopenhauer's theory on will.

This part should set out Schopenhauer's fundamental doctrine. Historical context can be useful if it clarifies the starting point.

The two sentences: "Schopenhauer believed that humans were motivated by only their own basic desires, or Wille zum Leben ("Will to Live"), which directed all of mankind. Will, for Schopenhauer, is what Kant called the "thing-in-itself", are better. On the current page they would add no new information.

Yuyuhunter UTC 13:55, 5 october 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuyuhunter (talkcontribs)

Influences

I deleted a few influences that had no source (if the article makes clear that they were an influence that is of course no problem, but the article did not make that clear), and also Christian Wolf, who had a source, but this source was only a list of (often minor) philosophers that Schopenhauer read during a period of his student life, and Wolf was mentioned amongst them. Schopenhauer was not influenced by the Leibniz-Wolf philosophy, but was delighted that Kant had put an end to it.

I also made it a flatlist. Yuyuhunter (talk) 07:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Schopenhauer and religion

This article could benefit from a section on Schopenhauer and religion, stating that, although Schopenhauer's philosophy is atheistic, he was influenced by the world religions, especially Hinduism. It could also mention that he admired Jesus, whom he saw as an ascetic. Vorbee (talk) 08:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about this as well. His philosophy has led people back to religion (such as Tolstoy, J.K. Huysman) because all his examples of the most important phenomenon in ethics, the denial of the will to live, are religious figures. Right now the ethics section does not clear how important these religious accounts are for his philosophy. I therefore plan to improve the ethics section with this important matter, which has caused the attraction towards religion among his readers. Yuyuhunter (talk) 09:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the infobox say that his religion is Western philosophy? That is quite dubious. --Bringback2ndpersonverbs (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Contra Academia

In the "Life" section it is claimed that "A late essay, 'On University Philosophy,' expressed his resentment towards the work conducted in academies." Is it possible for anyone beside Schopenhauer to know what motivated his opposition to academia? Isn't it merely a subjective opinion for anyone to assert that his motive was simply resentment? Did his extremely clear and thorough judgments regarding academia, as published in the above-mentioned essay, have, then, no intelligible basis in reality and were they the result of a mere emotional reaction?96.235.138.179 (talk) 03:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Barry Spizona[reply]

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