Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 June 15

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June 15

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Emergency services in NSW

Propose renaming Category:Emergency services in NSW to Category:Emergency services in New South Wales

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Housekeeping expansion of state abbreviation. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:PDAs

Propose renaming Category:PDAs to Category:Personal digital assistants

Nominator's rationale: Per main article. Also: Category:PDA software by platform to Category:Personal digital assistant software by platform and Category:PDA software to Category:Personal digital assistant software —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support abbreviation being expanded. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christian nazis

Category:Christian nazis - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete This category has been added as a subcategory of Category:Christians by ideology, which includes Category:Christian pacifists, Category:Christian anarchists, Category:Christian socialists, etc. These are all distinctive ideologies that have adopted a specific name that includes the word "Christian" in it. This is not the case with Nazism — they didn't/don't call themselves "Christian Nazis" or "Christian National Socialists", as far as I am aware. As such, it i overcategorization by trivial intersection of religion and political ideology. (At the time of nomination Adolf Hitler is the only article in the category so I think it's safe to say I'm not missing the boat on the existence of some movement that does call themselves "Christian Nazis".) Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Was Hitler a Christian by anything more than descent? If so, he does not belong in the category, which would make it empty. It might be possible to devise a category for extreme right wing Christian politicians, which could include (for example) Franco and Mussolini, but I doubt it would be a very useful category. I suspect it has been created merely to contrast with Category:Christian socialists, but that and pacifism are serious Christian political positions (though not ones that I hold). Nazi (save for historical uses in c.1922-1950) is a term of abuse, huled by opponents. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tony! Toni! Tone! songs

Propose renaming Category:Tony! Toni! Tone! songs to Category:Tony! Toni! Toné songs

Nominator's rationale: I made this category not realizing that I accidentally left the é out of Toné. Can this be speedily renamed as a spelling error? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably You also left out an exclamation point: Category:Tony! Toni! Toné! songs. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC)

Propose renaming Category:Chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) to Category:Chairs of the Joint Intelligence Committee

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Moved from speedy section — needs to be pluralized and abbreviation in parentheses can be omitted. Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Intelligence gathering legislation

Propose renaming Category:Intelligence gathering legislation to Category:Intelligence gathering law

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Many of the articles contained in this category are not statutes (and therefore, not legislation). We should broaden its scope to include all law involving intelligence gathering. —Markles 18:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indian railway accidents

Propose renaming Category:Indian railway accidents to Category:Railway accidents in India

Nominator's rationale: Rename. This would match all similar categories in Category:Railway accidents by country, for example Category:Railway accidents in France (not "French railway accidents"). Yechiel (Shalom) 15:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former dictators

Category:Former dictators - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: The category Category:Dictators has already been deleted by another discussion, and the same reasons apply here: the only difference between "Dictators" and "Former dictators" is a temporal one, while the main reasons why the main category was deleted (Violates POV by endorsing a subjective view, which could never have unbiased criteria as to what a dictator is) remains the same. Benito Sifaratti (talk) 14:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Famous Neighborhoods

Category:Famous Neighborhoods - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete as inherently subjective. "Famous" isn't a good word for categories. Bencherlite ^Talk 10:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - nom is correct re the use of the word "famous" in category names. Each of the articles is already included in at least one additional neighborhood, street or district category. Otto4711 (talk) 13:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - famous amongst whom? Hunter's Bar is famous if you listen carefully to Arctic Monkeys lyrics. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 13:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Way too subjective. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 15:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Honorary Doctors of the University of Chicago

Category:Honorary Doctors of the University of Chicago - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete. So now that WP has a complete phalanx of alumni categories, we're going to start getting into honorary degree recipient categories? Ay yai yai. Anyway, I don't think receiving an honorary degree from any university is terribly defining for a person, since the honorary degree usually comes after they achieve something as a way of recongising the previous achievement — it's not just something that is given out of the blue and defines a person in a self-standing way. Categories like this would probably be better treated as a list, and it could be completely appropriate to create such a list for any university or college, in my opinion. Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and as overcategorization by award. Bencherlite ^Talk 10:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I'm afraid I have to agree with Good Ol’factory's sentiments on this. "Ay yai yai" sums things up pretty well. I don't want to say that honorary degrees are handed out like gumdrops -- but neither are they terribly meaningful. They generally function as part of a quid pro quo, helping to lure high-profile individuals to serve as college commencement speakers. Let's close the door on this before Kofi Annan winds up with another two dozen categories. Kill it before it multiplies! :) Cgingold (talk) 10:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom et al. I'm pretty sure we've deleted several of these on similar grounds. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 13:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there was this cfd which deleted Category:Honorary doctoral degree holders. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 20:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fiji Islands alpine skiers

Propose renaming Category:Fiji Islands alpine skiers to Category:Fijian alpine skiers

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Change "Fiji Islands" to "Fijian" as the adjective for the nationality of a person from the country of Fiji. See recent precedents directly on point here and here. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Football Players from Maramureş

Category:Football Players from Maramureş - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Too specific - no other football players category does it by sub-national division. Category:People from Maramureş County can be used in combination with Category:Romanian footballers. Biruitorul ^Talk 06:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Frank-N-Dank albums

Propose renaming Category:Frank-N-Dank albums to Category:Frank n Dank albums

Nominator's rationale: Official site doesn't use a dash and the "n" is uncapitalised since it's short for "and". Spellcast (talk) 02:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to match main article. Lugnuts (talk) 07:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brenda Song soundtracks

Category:Brenda Song soundtracks - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete - we do not categorize soundtracks on the basis of what artists appear on them. Otto4711 (talk) 01:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Even if I knew who Brenda Song was I couldn't support this. What a mess if these proliferated. Cgingold (talk)

Category:Brenda Song shows

Category:Brenda Song shows - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete - we do not categorize TV shows by the people who appear in them. Otto4711 (talk) 01:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Even if I knew who Brenda Song was I couldn't support this. What a mess if these proliferated. Cgingold (talk)

Category:Brenda Song movies

Category:Brenda Song movies - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete - we do not categorize films by the people who appear in them. Otto4711 (talk) 01:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per nom. Overcategorization. Lugnuts (talk) 07:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Even if I knew who Brenda Song was I couldn't support this. What a mess if these proliferated. Cgingold (talk)
Delete this and two preceding. I do not add listify as that is already done in Brenda Song. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]