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RE:Diff I see and respect your argument, In fact when I first saw your argument I felt stupid for suggesting the we blank the speedy and considered withdrawing the suggestion. The more I thought about it though, I changed my mind. I will grant you that at worst it should not be more more then a couple hours before it is dealt with by an admin.

Here is why I am leaning towards auto blank even on the speedy -

  1. It functionally a simple thing to, and seeing the pre-tagged version is a seconds work with a couple of clicks.
  2. The general expectation at Wikipedia:Copyright problems is "if all revisions have copyright problems: Blank the page"
  3. Considering all the flack that You tube and Google, etc get for copyvio stuff it helps if we can show that we blank the content of all suspect copyvio and gives us a stronger position if we are called upon legally for copyvio
  4. Like WP:BLP suspected Copyvio is something that causes no pain to remove while researching and the mere act of being proactive it supportive to the Wikipedia community as a whole. It say's to contributors and viewers that Wikipedia does not condone the inclusion of material that is prohibited.

Signed, Jeepday (talk) 22:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Response at my talk, Jeepday (talk) 22:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi - I don't disagree with the idea of removing the flag from the example, but for future reference can you clarify which part of wp:mosflag actually applies in this case? Thanks, NapoliRoma (talk) 13:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure it's urgent in either way, but if edit wars flare up it might be appropriate to clarify either for this particular infobox or for the flags policy in general whether flags belong there (I'm inclined to side with you that they don't.). Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I saw you decided that this image is irreplaceable non-free content. I disagree. The book was first published in 1826 so it should be possible to get a scan of a public domain edition. Garion96 (talk) 15:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

That's a good point, I forgot how old that book is. Maybe I'll check the book section at the antique store next time I pass by. Melesse (talk) 16:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you

Thank you!
Garion96, it is with deep awareness of the responsibility conferred by your trust that I am honored to report that in part to your support, my request for adminship passed (87/14/6). I deeply value the trust you and the Wikipedia community have in me, and I will embark on a new segment of my Wikipedia career by putting my new tools to work to benefit the entire community. My best to you, Happyme22 (talk) 04:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

List of HIV-positive people

Thanks for the note. However, I notice that quite a few of the names on your page are already in the list. For example, Alan Bowne, Bianca Biaggi, Bruce Chatwin, Zackie Achmat. Trezatium (talk) 08:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Eu Citizenship

Hi,

I noticed that you removed EU Citizenship from the Rebecca Grinter article. I'm writing to explain why I (beki70) put it in. I am drawing from an explanation provided by the European Union http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/citizenship/fsj_citizenship_intro_en.htm

The legal definition for the European citizenship can be found in Article 17 of the Treaty establishing the European Community: “Citizenship of the Union is hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a Member State shall be a citizen of the Union . Citizenship of the Union shall complement and not replace national citizenship.”

It goes on, from there, to explain the distinct rights of EU citizenship (as well as their differences from member state citizenship). I just wanted to explain why I view EU Citizenship as a distinct, separate, citizenship.

thanks, beki70 Beki70 (talk) 23:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Again,

Thanks for the explanation. While I don't personally agree, that's very different from respecting wiki policy, so it stays off the page. One day, I hope it can return :-) Beki70 (talk) 20:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and thank you for all the helpful information and encouragement, much appreciated. Beki70 (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

ANI notification

Thanks Garion96, appreciate the notification and revert. Best, Gwernol 23:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, wich was successful with 73 support, 6 oppose, and 5 neutral.

I'll try to be as clear as I can in my communication and to clear some of the admin backlog on images.

If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page!

Cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thankspam

Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoygabsadds 19:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thank-you

Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, for some reason I thought I was restoring an entry that had been deleted, but I actually deleted it myself. Sorry for my carelessness, and thanks for fixing it. Ward3001 (talk) 20:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Garion96 (talk) 23:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed with 30 in support, 28 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks again for the support!


CycloneNimrodTalk? 15:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Template:2008 Saskatchewan Roughriders Transactions/Template:2008 Saskatchewan Roughriders Off-Season Transactions

Could please restore this template for another day, so I can reintegrate this back into 2008 Saskatchewan Roughriders season? I was hoping someone would warn me before the templates were arbitrarily deleted as I mentioned in my reasoning on the deletion page. When you do this mention it on my Talk Page, so I can quickly put the data back on the page. Thanks. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 00:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

You say this is replaceable by a free one, but is it? I couldn't find a free photo we can use after a search on a couple sites including Flickr. — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 11:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. I don't keep track of the specific image rules, since MOS is enough to keep up with. I have removed it from the article. Thanks, — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 11:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I replaced the second infobox for Mike Veon; it seems to be standard procedure. (see James Traficant). Some people would have a problem with using a mugshot as a person's main photo in the main infobox. BLP concerns probably. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 13:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

At some point, someone is going to make a BLP argument to try and delete that photo. They will probably say that the use of the booking photo violates the nonfree photo policy of living persons, since we're supposed to find a free version for living people. (This is a dumb argument, but someone will make it). Or they will say that the use of the booking photo violates the prohibition against placing undue weight in a bio about the criminal charges. We are much less likely to get into a whole battle if we keep the two infoboxes separate. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 03:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
That photo is a mug shot of the former Pennsylvania House Minority Whip, and in case you might not be familiar with PA politics, Veon was much more powerful than that (Think of Tom Delay in the US House). He is charged with corruption and using state resources for political campaign purposes. His indictment was a huge shock to the political system, and threatens to bring down many other legislators. Therefore, the usage of his mug shot in the wikipedia article add to its value by showing in visual form the turn that this person's life has taken. Words describing his arraignment last month cannot reproduce the effect that seeing Mike Veon's booking photo in the article. Further, the photo is unique (as a mugshot is not replaceable), and well-publicized (the Pennsylvania Attorney General sent it to dozens of state-wide media outlets). As a final arugment, I direct you to the Category:Mug shots, which has several hundred mug shot photos, all of whom you should tag as unnecessary fair use if you tag Veon's mug shot as such. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 12:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Nobel icon TfD

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'd like to petition your help because it appears you're an admin actively involved in the TfD process. The Nobel icon TfD (which I realize you have participated in) appears to be nearing a rough consensus in favor of deletion, but I'm not sure (since this is my first TfD) what "rough" is and who should close the TfD when that is or is not reached. Projects for FAC and FLC have directors who oversee the voting and consensus, but I'm not sure how it works with TfD. Anyway, any help would be appreciated, and forgive me if you're not familiar with this subject. --Eustress (talk) 00:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I saw you decided that this image is irreplaceable non-free content. I disagree. The book was first published in 1904 so it should be possible to get a scan of a public domain edition. Garion96 (talk) 18:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

That would be highly impractical. However you're welcome to nominate the image to IFD. Stifle (talk) 19:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Solved, I think. Public domain material was extremely easy to find. (And even if it hadn't been, I'd have agreed with Garion, just for the record. Early 20th-cent books by such a prominent author can by default be assumed to survive and be "reasonably" accessible.) Thanks for bringing it up, it's even earned the project a new article, on the book illustrator. Fut.Perf. 12:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
It turns out it's actually a fun little exercise, and very educational. It's amazing what lovely stuff you can find of 19th cent novel editions. I just did another just for fun ([1]). Fut.Perf. 20:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Image removal

HI I see you removed many of the images from the List of American films. Could you find some free replacements in the commons for many of the older years. Thanks The Bald One White cat 20:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)