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==Radio Pages==
==Radio Pages==
I will be working on the rest of the Morgantown, WV radio market tonight, so if you want to keep an eye on my contribs page, in case you need to make some changes. - [[User:Neutralhomer|<font color="#0000C8">NeutralHomer</font>]] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>[[User Talk:Neutralhomer|T]]:[[Special:Contributions/Neutralhomer|C]]</sup></span> 01:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I will be working on the rest of the Morgantown, WV radio market tonight, so if you want to keep an eye on my contribs page, in case you need to make some changes. - [[User:Neutralhomer|<font color="#0000C8">NeutralHomer</font>]] <span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>[[User Talk:Neutralhomer|T]]:[[Special:Contributions/Neutralhomer|C]]</sup></span> 01:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
:Will do. [[User:JPG-GR|JPG-GR]] 01:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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I assert to be the same user as commons:User:JPG-GR JPG-GR 07:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I assert to be the same user as meta:User:JPG-GR JPG-GR 00:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]



Question/Idea

As you may know, the TV Stations Project has a list of TV stations by call sign. I think it would be nice (and alot easier to search and see which stations are missing) if we had a list of radio stations by call sign. If you would like to help, I would like to take a crack at this and see a page like that go up. Let me know what you think. Take Care....NeutralHomer T:C 05:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I might be interested in helping, but take note of these before getting started: (1) there will be twice as many stations, as each possible callsign could be either AM and FM and (2) each market can no doubt hold MANY more radio stations than television stations. Nonetheless, I might be able to setup a basic structure for it in the next day or so. I'll let you know if/when I have something going if you wanna do the same. JPG-GR 05:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But, first, I've gotta finish cleaning up callsigns in the Kxxx range (which'll be one more sitting, I think). JPG-GR 05:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Truth be told, I kinda started something similiar two weeks ago, but then realized I had no desire to do it all alone. I got as far as WAxx (didn't pull actual frequencies when I did it, haven't wikilinked callsigns or CoL's yet): User:JPG-GR/Sandbox JPG-GR 06:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That is pretty much what the TV stations page looks like, sans the networks section and a "meaning/notes" section. Yeah, that would work quite nicely. - NeutralHomer T:C 17:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WAxx FM stations are done. This is a big PitA, if you know what I mean. I don't know if I'll ever actually get all this stuff done. *sigh* JPG-GR 04:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I haven't been working on it....crazy stuff happened here at home this week, so that took up most of my attention, but that has died down, so back to all things Wiki. I will take a look at that page tonight and see what we can do about WBxx pages. - NeutralHomer T:C 04:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Tip: here's what I've been doing: Just go to http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?call=XXX and replace XXX with WBA (which will give you all the WBAx), the WBB (all the WBBx), etc. JPG-GR 04:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WCCO disambiguation

I was curious why you re-added the disambiguation for WCCO. It only refers to one of two things: WCCO AM or WCCO-TV. Adding a disambiguation page seems pointless when there are only two items, especially since the WCCO-TV article visibly linked to the WCCO AM one. But I might be missing something... what's your rationale? Sean Hayford O'Leary 04:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, I agree with you (as long as WCCO is the AM station (official call "WCCO") and not the TV station (official call "WCCO-TV")). But, apparently it's standard procedure per WP:WPRS to dab in this case. JPG-GR 05:42, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arrogance and Ignorance of USA

Why would it not be correct to add USA after a location in USA? MI might mean something to you, but to those of us outside MI it can be a puzzle. In the Wiki font I first read it as ML (lower case L).

Are you creating a world encyclopedia, or just an introverted US one? (The US that sends troops to Afghanistan, but the people have no clue where that country is on a map.) Thortful 01:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that adding "USA" to any article and neglecting to wikify it as USA (or the like) is ignorance of the very purpose of Wikipedia, and is just editing for editing's sake. While I agree that the use of "MI" is stupid (and if I had caught it earlier, I would have expanded it -- as I have just done), the use of "USA" is nearly as stupid (see USA (disambiguation). Abbreviations are dangerous in most cases, I'd think.
Additionally, the decision to interject politics into a situation such as this is rather off the point, and your claim of "arrogance" is clearly against WP:AGF. Don't assume that the world is against you -- it's very hard to maintain the ability to produce helpful edits if one feels the general reading public doesn't care what they think. JPG-GR 04:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I still think the country should be identified. I chose to refer to Afghanistan because it is much less politically controversial than another war. Your deletion of USA without replacing it with whatever you see as the polically correct name, is both ignorant and arrogant. But such is life. Thortful 05:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You not being bold and re-adding it correctly is lazy. You continually referencing goings-on in the world in relation to the editing of an article on a radio station is laughable. Your obsession with "ignorant and arrogant" and whether or not you know how to use either properly is entertaining. But, I'd prefer not to throw stones in the glass house that is Wikipedia. But, to each their own.
On the other hand, feel free to join WikiProject Radio Stations and then go through all the articles and add countries as you see fit. JPG-GR 05:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Arrogance is assuming the the country name is unnecessary. Obviously it is not needed by those in the transmitting area of the station, but WP is intended for a wider audience. Ignorance is thinking that the initials USA need a reference. Like SPQR they represent the imperial power. Thortful 06:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You've just proven my point -- I just had to check SPQR to have any clue what you're talking about. AGAIN, I'm not claiming that USA wasn't necessary (though, all the other geographic links in the article arguably make it redundant), I'm arguing that by adding USA and not USA you aren't doing anyone a service, except maybe your edit count. JPG-GR 19:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I didn't realize you were such a dummy. You just go back to listening to chewing gum ads on your local radio station, while I look for intelligent company elsewhere. ex-Thortful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.48.50 (talk) 19:24, June 14, 2007 (UTC)
Fine with me. Make sure you teach your "company" to sign your posts. JPG-GR 00:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tokusatsu Monster Images-related

Any reason why you don't want the image request on the Power Rangers and Beetleborgs monster pages that don't have images? Don't you think that visitors of Wikipedia (and are unaware of your website) wanted to know what they looked like? If you want to update your site with the monster info from Mystic Force to Operation: Overdrive, try watching it's episodes on YouTube. Rtkat3 (talk) 5:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The requests are both unnecessary and not standardized Wikipedia templates. If you feel these images are necessary, find the proper template to use. JPG-GR 00:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Rtkat yet again, I think images should be added to their pages. It could well be that a lot of Wikipedia moderators are biased. 71.167.117.241 22:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wprj

WPRJ is a small station and has a strong community involvement. We feel that the listed DJ's are a central part of the short history of the station.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.100.228 (talkcontribs)

I'm not sure who "we" is (let alone, you, as you neglected to sign your comment). The personal career history of each DJ at this station is crufty and not notable enough for inclusion. In reality, if the radio station is as small as you feel it is, and that in order to have it "appear" important you have to add all this stuff, it may end up getting deleted for failing WP:NOTABLE. JPG-GR 02:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WFLS

Thanks for your many updates, but could you please update the market templates with your changes as you go. I would greatly appericate it:) Take Care...NeutralHomer T:C 23:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While I understand that these multiple changes may cause havoc with the market templates, the reason I haven't been messing with them is (a) these fixes affect market templates, corporate templates, etc. and (b) there may very likely be more changes to the same template in the future. At this point, it seems better to let others catch up the templates, and whatever is left at the end, I'll grab systematically like I'm doing these. JPG-GR 07:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List O' Call Signs

I added some Wikilinks to your list o' call signs. I am working on getting a page for each station in the state of Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland. Last week, the Fredericksburg, Harrisonburg, and Charlottesville DMAs were completely covered. So, I am working on it. Please check my contribs regularly as I make and add more pages. - NeutralHomer T:C 02:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I moved two of the articles you created to their proper callsigns and then created a redirect for the third. (None required any additional edits to the list.) It should be noted that if you want templates to point directly to station articles at all times, you should probably create station articles at their official callsigns in the first place, rather than having them be moved later. JPG-GR 03:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stations

If you move a station page in Virginia, West Virginia or Maryland, could you please let me know. This is alot of work that I am having to do to catch up on the pages you are moving for the templates. I would appericate the heads up. - NeutralHomer T:C 04:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And, I and the rest of the members of WP:WPRS would appreciate that you start articles where they belong in the first place so we don't have to move them later on. JPG-GR 04:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, please stop changing the disambig pages I have been setting up. These pages must link directly to the articles (which would be those with (AM) suffixes, as NO station officially has an -AM suffix in the FM database). Additionally, piped links are frowned upon, as they aren't helping to disambiguate anything if the user doesn't know what's going on. JPG-GR 04:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On the disambig pages I am not changing the links, but am taking out the ( ), the link itself remains the same. Example [[WCMD (AM)|WCMD-AM]] So, I would appericate you not throwing around "vandalism" where there is none. That is insulting and uncalled for.
Second, I name articles by just the call letters, unless there is article by that name then I add in either -AM or -FM, like with WCMD. If there is an AM and an FM, like WINC, I name them WINC-AM and WINC-FM. I don't understand the whole call letter name process that you all have, I just make the article. That is my entire job. I let you worry aobut the little stuff.
Third, in the case of WFRB-AM, WFRB-AM has simulcasted sister WTBO-AM for years, and with the lack of a WFRB-AM wiki page and there not needing to be one, I wikilinked it to it's simulcaster WTBO. Yes, infoboxes are needed for both stations on that page, I am working on it. I am trying to undertake a ambitious little project here and making station pages for all the radio stations in Virginia, West Virginia and Maryland (then expanding from there), so if my changes aren't immediate, you just gotta wait.
Finally, and again, I resent the "vandalism" claim. If it was genuine vandalism, then yes, you could claim that, but since it isn't, I do believe you own me an apology, because my track record shows, I don't vandalise. - NeutralHomer T:C 05:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your continued editting against established Wikipedia conventions can be construed as vandalism, though that perhaps is a little strong. (1) I have explained that piping on dab pages is inappropriate -- especially since "WCMD-AM" is the callsign you are giving a station -- one that is not technically proper to the FCC or WP. (2) If you cannot be "bothered" to name articles correctly, you cannot possibly fault editors who fix the names and don't go through and fix everything that links to it, allowing redirects to do the job. (3) I have done nothing that prevents your WFRB-WTBO pairing. Perhaps you do not understand how I am doing it, but I am trying to keep it all within naming conventions.
I don't care if you want to call it vandalism, ignorance to policy, or what, but do know that I am not tying to fight with you. Please, continue to create and work on already existent articles and know that I'm merely trying to make everything proper in the greater WP-sense. JPG-GR 05:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I understand what you are doing, and that is fine, but you have to admit "WCMD-AM" looks aesthetically better than WCMD (AM). I am not changing the wikilink, don't want to. I am changing how it looks to the reader. Most won't understand the reason for (AM). We don't, most won't. Hence why I left the wikilink and article name as "WCMD (AM)" and changed it on the disambig page to "WCMD-AM" (again, leaving the Wikilink the same).
But since you obviously don't like the way I name my articles and are throwing around "vandalism" and "ignorance", all you are wanting it to cause a fight, using that kind of language and calling someone a vandal would cause one. But you fight with yourself. Just fix the templates and we have no problems. - NeutralHomer T:C 05:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, aesthetics are irrelevant. Naming conventions deem that parentheticals are used to disambiguate, especially since the suffixes are part of the official names. Technically, WCMD-AM and WCMD (AM) are not the same thing (even though you and I reasonably say they are). Piping links (as in [[something|something else]]) is highly frowned upon on dab pages, which is why I have reverted them.
As for the templates, someone will get to them when they get to them. It's not my job to fix all of Wikipedia. You're working on creating articles. I'm working on fixing names. Anyone can fix the templates, and at this point, that someone is not me. JPG-GR 05:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Do you know why they changed all the {{radiologo}} templates to standard {{Non-free logo}} templates? The radiologo ones were essentially the same thing, but just said "radio logo" on them. - NeutralHomer T:C 06:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image (Image:WLSP-AM.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:WLSP-AM.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Stephens City, VA

The permission is on record, sent it myself, if you would sent an email, via my email link, I will forward it to you as well. - NeutralHomer T:C 19:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it on record with the Foundation? JPG-GR 19:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was told to send it to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org" (an OTRS address)". I did, never heard anything back. I still have the permission saved on my email account if you would like proof that it exsists. - NeutralHomer T:C 19:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As long as you've followed the procedure, I'm fine with it. JPG-GR 19:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am just waiting on a reply. I will let you know when I get that reply. - NeutralHomer T:C 20:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deserved

The Chain Barnstar of Recognition
For making a difference! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 3-5 others with 500+ edits but no barnstar. So that everyone who deserves one will get one Pseudoanonymous 19:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you have much more than 500+ please don't be offended; I am thinking about

  • The Chain Barnstar of Merit: 1500+
  • The Chain Barnstar of Diligence: 2500+
  • The Wikipedian's Chain Barnstar of Honour: 5000+

But I have to make them first Pseudoanonymous 19:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why you removed his name from WP:RM when actually his name has not been corrected yet. --ShahidTalk2me 00:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

oops. I only meant to remove the first one. I'll restore it. JPG-GR 00:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK, but can't you redirect the page for yourself? It was discussed on the article talk page, and now it can be done. --ShahidTalk2me 00:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, don't have those kinds of powers. JPG-GR 00:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, OK thanks:) Good night! --ShahidTalk2me 00:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Pages

I will be working on the rest of the Morgantown, WV radio market tonight, so if you want to keep an eye on my contribs page, in case you need to make some changes. - NeutralHomer T:C 01:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. JPG-GR 01:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]