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| subject_name = Mark David Chapman |
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| image_caption = NYPD mugshot of Chapman on December 9, 1980 |
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| date_of_birth = {{Birth date and age|mf=yes|1955|5|10}} |
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| place_of_birth = [[Dallas, Texas]] |
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| charge = [[Murder#Degrees of murder in the United States|second degree murder]], of [[John Lennon]] |
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| penalty = 20 years to [[life sentence|life in prison]] |
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| status = [[Attica State Prison]] |
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| spouse = Gloria Abe (m. 1979) |
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| parents = David Curtis Chapman, Diane Elizabeth Pease |
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'''Mark David Chapman''' (born [[May 10]], [[1955]] in [[Fort Worth, Texas]]) is the man who [[Death of John Lennon|murdered]] [[England|English]] musician and activist [[John Lennon]] on [[December 8]], [[1980]] in [[New York City]]. Chapman shot Lennon four times outside [[The Dakota]] apartment building, in the presence of Lennon's wife [[Yoko Ono]] and others. Chapman remained at the scene until arrested by police. |
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== Can u help? == |
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A scheduled [[jury trial]] did not go ahead because Chapman changed his plea from not guilty [[insanity defense|by reason of insanity]] to guilty of [[Murder#Degrees of murder in the United States|second degree murder]], against the advice of his lawyer. He had been assessed as [[delusional]] and possibly [[psychotic]], and the defense team argued that Chapman was not competent to make the decision. However, Chapman was sentenced to a prison term of 20 years to [[life in prison|life]] and remains incarcerated at [[Attica State Prison]] in New York, having been denied [[parole]] five<ref>http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/12/chapman.no.parole/index.html</ref> times. His applications for parole have been opposed by Yoko Ono, as well as by an online [[grassroots]] public campaign. |
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Hi. Can u help me editing images on this page? [[New Haven Line]] |
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Chapman has been widely associated with the book ''[[The Catcher in the Rye]]'', which he carried with him at the time and claimed would explain his perspective. Various specific motivations have also been suggested. Chapman has since stated that what he did was wrong. There have been a number of interviews, books and films concerning Chapman and the murder of Lennon. |
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:I fixed the infobox. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 15:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Deletion review for [[:Anne Kilkenny]] == |
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==Early life== |
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Chapman was the first child of David, a [[staff sergeant]] in the [[Air Force]], and Diane, a [[nurse]]. His sister, Susan, was born seven years later. He later said that he lived in fear of his father, who sometimes [[domestic violence|abused]] his mother. He also [[fantasy (psychology)|fantasized]] about having [[God]]-like power over a group of imaginary "little people".<ref name="CL Troubled Youth">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/3.html A Troubled Youth]</ref> |
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An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#Anne Kilkenny|deletion review]] of [[:Anne Kilkenny]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 09:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC) |
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He attended Columbia High School in [[Decatur, Georgia]]. From 14 he used [[recreational drugs|drugs]], sometimes skipped classes, and once ran away from home to live on the streets for two weeks. Chapman reported that he was [[bullying|bullied]] because he was not a good athlete. His favorite band was [[The Beatles]].<ref name="CL Troubled Youth"/> He took [[marijuana]], [[LSD]], [[heroin]], [[mescaline]] and [[barbiturates]]. When John Lennon was quoted in 1966 as saying "We're more popular than [[Jesus Christ]] now", Chapman laughed about it with his friends.<ref name="Gaines1981">Gaines, J.R. (1981) [http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20079581,00.html The Life and Crime of Mark David Chapman] June 22, 1981 Vol. 15 No. 24</ref> |
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== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip Reilly]] == |
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How do you justify a delete, when under identical circumstances last week [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neil Gallagher (footballer)]] three similiar articles were kept. Don't we need consistency? Can you expand your closing statement? [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 16:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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At 16, Chapman became a [[born again Christian]], and distributed [[Bible]] tracts. He met his first girlfriend, another born-again Christian named Jessica Blankenship. He began work as a [[YMCA]] summer camp counselor; he was very popular with the children, who nicknamed him "Nemo". He won an award for Outstanding Counselor and was made assistant director.<ref name="CL Troubled Youth"/><ref>http://www.lennon-chapman.com/ncfc/TTMGR.PDF</ref> Those who knew him in the caretaking professions unanimously called him an outstanding worker.<ref name="TwoMarks">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/2.html Two Marks]</ref> |
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:No, I was just judging consensus for that debate. AfD isn't a court system and precedent is fairly meaningless. There is a debate of the interpretation over [[WP:ATHLETE]], it would be best to attempted to have that clarified. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::There's been plenty of debate over that. And little consensus. Meanwhile anarchy continues ... [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 17:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Image deletion request == |
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A friend recommended ''[[The Catcher in the Rye]]'' to Chapman, and the story eventually took on great personal significance for him, to the extent that he reportedly wished to model his life after its [[protagonist]], [[Holden Caulfield]].<ref name="CL Troubled Youth"/> |
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Hi Bjweeks. You deleted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Palin.JPG&action=edit&redlink=1 this] image, which was identical or very similar to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Palinphotocropped.jpg this] image. Would you please consider deleting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Palinphotocropped.jpg this image]. Thanks. [[User:Suntag|Suntag]] ([[User talk:Suntag|talk]]) 07:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC) |
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After graduating from Columbia High, Chapman moved for a time to [[Chicago]] and played guitar in churches and Christian nightspots while his friend did impersonations. He worked successfully at the YMCA with [[Vietnamese people|Vietnamese]] [[refugee]]s at a resettlement camp at Fort Chaffee in [[Arkansas]], after a brief visit to [[Lebanon]] on the same work. He was named an area coordinator and a key aide to the program director, David Moore, who later said Chapman cared deeply for the children and worked hard. Chapman accompanied Moore to meetings with government officials, and [[Gerald Ford|President Gerald Ford]] shook his hand.<ref name="TwoMarks"/><ref>[http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=73#_ednref30 March 4, 1966: The Beginning of the End for John Lennon?] Lynne H. Schultz, 2001</ref> |
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:{{done}} [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman joined his girlfriend, Jessica Blankenship as a student at [[Covenant College]] (a strict [[Presbyterian]] college that emphasizes the [[liberal arts]]) in [[Lookout Mountain, Georgia]]. However, Chapman fell behind in his studies and became obsessed with guilt over having an affair.<ref name="CLEscape">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/4.html Escape to Paradise]</ref> The academic pressure and a failing romance sent him in to an emotional tailspin.<ref name="Gaines1981"/> He started having [[suicide|suicidal]] thoughts and feeling like a failure. He dropped out of Covenant College, and his girlfriend broke off their relationship. He returned to work at the resettlement camp, but left after an argument. Chapman then took a job as a security guard, eventually taking a week-long course that qualified him to be an armed guard. He made another attempt to go to college but dropped out again. He decided to go to [[Hawaii]] and then kill himself.<ref name = "CLEscape"/> |
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In 1977 Chapman attempted suicide by gassing himself inside his car, but the vacuum cleaner hose melted in the [[exhaust pipe]]; he was discovered, went to a local [[mental health]] clinic, and a [[psychiatry|psychiatrist]] took him to Castle Memorial Hospital for [[clinical depression]]. Upon his release, the hospital hired him part-time. He played guitar for the patients and counseled them. He found a place to live with a [[Presbyterian]] minister.<ref name="CLMiracle">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/5.html A Miracle Fades Away]</ref> His parents began [[divorce]] preceedings, and his mother joined Chapman in Hawaii.<ref name="Gaines1981"/> |
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Your bot recently tagged several images I uploaded for deletion (see [[User talk:Politizer|my talk page]] for a full list). Several of these images were recently used in the [[Gunnerkrigg Court]] article but have been commented out for now (they are images of characters in the comic, and for the moment I have commented those characters out of the article because I decided they were not "major" enough for inclusion); I was planning on keeping the images there for future use, as the article is undergoing frequent updates and the plot of the comic (as well as different interpretations from different Wikipedia editors) may cause some of the images to be used again at short notice. Would this be reason to keep the images on Wikipedia? (I'm not challenging your judgment, I'm just asking, because I am relatively unfamiliar still with Wikipedia image and fair use guidelines.) |
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In 1978, Chapman went on a six-week trip around the world, inspired partly by the film ''[[Around the World in Eighty Days (1956 film)|Around the World in Eighty Days]]'', visiting such places as [[Tokyo]], [[Seoul]], [[Hong Kong]], [[Singapore]], [[Bangkok]], [[Delhi]], [[Israel]], [[Geneva]], [[London]], [[Paris]], and [[Dublin]]. He began a relationship with his travel agent, a [[Japanese-American]] woman named Gloria Abe. They married on [[June 2]], [[1979]]. Looking for more money, Chapman got a job at Castle Memorial Hospital as a printer, working alone rather than with staff and patients. He then got into an argument with Abe's boss at the travel agency and made her quit and find another job. He was then fired by the Castle Memorial Hospital, rehired, then got into a shouting match with a nurse and quit. He took a job as a night security guard and began [[Alcoholic beverage|drinking]] heavily.<ref name="CLMiracle"/> |
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Thanks, [[User:Politizer|Politizer]] ([[User talk:Politizer|talk]]) 05:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:Sorry to bother you again, but I'm still waiting for a response about this question.....thanks, [[User:Politizer|Politizer]] ([[User talk:Politizer|talk]]) 02:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman developed a series of obsessions, including artworks, ''The Catcher in the Rye'', music, and John Lennon, and started [[hallucinations|hearing voices]] again. In [[September 1980]], he wrote a letter to a friend, Lynda Irish, saying "I'm going nuts", signed "The Catcher in the Rye".<ref name="brink">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/6.html To the Brink and Back]</ref> |
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::The policy says the images need to be used or deleted. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==Murder of John Lennon== |
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[[Image:Lennon and Chapman.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Lennon and Chapman.]] |
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[[Image:1 West 72nd Street (The Dakota) entrance by David Shankbone.jpg|thumb|right|upright|The entrance to the Dakota building where Lennon was shot.]] |
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Chapman went to New York in [[October 1980]] planning to kill Lennon. He left the city for a short while in order to obtain ammunition from his unwitting friend Dana Reeves in [[Atlanta, Georgia|Atlanta]]. He returned to New York in November but, after going to the cinema and being inspired by the film ''[[Ordinary People]]'', he returned to Hawaii, telling his wife he had been obsessed with killing Lennon but had snapped out of it. He made an appointment to see a [[clinical psychologist]] but instead, on December 6, flew back to New York. He offered [[cocaine]] to a taxi driver.<ref name="Gaines1981"/> He reports having reenacted scenes from ''The Catcher in the Rye''. |
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Does your wikistalk tool accept IPs as well as usernames? It appears to ignore any IPs (and just plain breaks if there's no valid usernames) but does count IPs in the totals (eg "edited by 1 of 2 users"). Is there a trick? [[User:Delicious carbuncle|Delicious carbuncle]] ([[User talk:Delicious carbuncle|talk]]) 21:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |
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On the morning of December 8, 1980, he departed from the [[Sheraton Hotel]], he left personal items in his hotel room for police to find. Chapman bought a copy of ''The Catcher in the Rye'' from a New York bookstore, in which he wrote "This is my statement", and signed "Holden Caulfield". He then spent most of the day near the entrance to [[The Dakota]] apartment building where Lennon and his wife [[Yoko Ono]] lived, talking to other fans and the doorman. At one point, a distracted Chapman missed seeing Lennon step out of a cab and enter the Dakota building on the morning of December 8. Late in the morning, Chapman met the Lennons' housekeeper, who had just taken their five-year-old son [[Sean Lennon|Sean]] for a walk. Chapman conversed with the housekeeper and shook hands with the boy as they departed.<ref name="allyou">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/7.html Is That All You Want?]</ref> |
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Around 5:00 p.m., Lennon and Ono left The Dakota for a recording session at [[Record Plant Studios]]. As they walked towards their [[limousine]] on the curb, Chapman shook hands with Lennon and held out a copy of Lennon's new album, ''[[Double Fantasy]]'', for him to sign. Photographer Paul Goresh was present when Lennon signed Chapman's album and took a photo of the event.<ref>[http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Keys/6624/BIGSUB.JPG Photo of Lennon and Chapman]</ref> Chapman reported that, "At that point my big part won and I wanted to go back to my hotel, but I couldn't. I waited until he came back. He knew where the ducks went in winter, and I needed to know this" (a reference to ''The Catcher in the Rye''). |
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Around 10:49 p.m., the Lennons' limousine returned to the Dakota. Lennon and Ono passed by Chapman and walked toward the archway entrance of the building's courtyard. From the street, Chapman turned and fired five [[hollow point bullet|hollow point]] bullets from a [[Charter Arms]] [[.38]] [[revolver]] that he had purchased in Hawaii, four of which hit Lennon's back and shoulder. One of the bullets pierced Lennon's [[aorta]], the largest and most important [[artery]] in the [[human body]], causing very severe [[blood loss]] by [[aortic dissection]]. There was an isolated newspaper claim at the time that, before firing, Chapman called out "Mr. Lennon" and dropped into a "[[Modern Technique of the Pistol|combat stance]]",<ref>"Police Trace Tangled Path Leading To Lennon's Slaying at the Dakota" by Paul L. Montgomery, ''The New York Times'', December 10, 1980, pp. A1,B6 (unverified quotes attributed to NYPD Chief of Detectives James T. Sullivan and in turn to an unnamed witness)</ref> but this is not stated in court hearings or witness interviews. |
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I don't know if this is part of the coding or what, but when posting alerts on talk pages, the bot apparently doesn't place a "linespace" between the new alert and any existing text. Is this fixable? - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 06:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman remained at the scene, took out his copy of ''The Catcher in the Rye'' and read it until the police arrived. The [[New York Police Department]] officers who first responded to the shooting recognized that Lennon's wounds were severe, and so they decided to transport him in their police car to [[Roosevelt Hospital]]. Chapman was arrested without incident. In his statement to police three hours later, Chapman stated, "I’m sure the large part of me is Holden Caulfield, who is the main person in the book. The small part of me must be the [[Devil]]."<ref name="chaps">Crime Library [http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics4/chapman/ Chapman's Statement]</ref> |
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:{{fixed}}, Thanks! [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 06:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::That was quick! Thank you : ) - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 09:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== About [[Eurovision]] [[Template:ESC Fan|template]]... == |
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Lennon was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. |
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Hi, Eurovision isn't for Russia, they are host nation for this year only. But why you added Russian flag to there? Cheers.. [[User:Isimsizzorbebe|*** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***]]<sup>[[User Talk:Isimsizzorbebe|and his friend]]</sup> 07:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==Testimony and sentencing== |
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:I reverted the addition of a non-free image, feel free to add a free image. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 07:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman was charged with [[Murder#Degrees_of_murder_in_the_United_States|second degree murder]]. |
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== MfD nomination of [[Talk:Track Palin]] == |
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He was taken to [[Bellevue Hospital]] for psychiatric examination. The conclusion was that, while [[delusional]], he was [[Competence (law)|competent]] to stand a trial. Nine psychiatrists/clinical psychologists were prepared to testify at his trial – six of the clinical opinion that he was [[psychotic]] and three of the clinical opinion that his delusions fell short of the necessary criteria for psychosis. Lawyer Herbert Adlerberg was assigned to represent Chapman but, amid threats of [[lynching]], withdrew. Police feared that Lennon fans might storm the hospital and they transferred Chapman to the [[Rikers Island]] jail.<ref name="McGunagle">McGunagle, F. [http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/10.html Exorcism at Attica] Tru Tv Crime Library.</ref> |
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At an initial hearing, in [[January 1981]], Chapman's new lawyer Jonathan Marks entered a plea of [[insanity defense|not guilty by reason of insanity]]. In February, Chapman sent a handwritten statement to ''[[The New York Times]]'', urging everyone to read ''The Catcher in the Rye'', calling it an extraordinary book that holds many answers.<ref>Montgomery, P [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9E00E1D8133BF93AA35751C0A967948260 LENNON MURDER SUSPECT PREPARING INSANITY DEFENSE.] New York Times, February 9, 1981.</ref> The defense team sought to establish witnesses as to Chapman's mental state at the time of the killing.<ref>New York Times February 26, 1981 [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9401E1DF1439F935A15751C0A967948260&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=print 4 Sought by Defense In Slaying of Lennon]</ref> It was reported that his defense team was confident he would be found [[insanity defense|not guilty by reason of insanity]], in which case he would have been committed to a state [[mental hospital]] and received treatment. |
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== Ethan Erickson == |
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However, in June, Chapman told Marks he wanted to drop the insanity defense and plead guilty. Marks objected with "serious questions" over Chapman's sanity, and legally challenged his competence to make this decision, requesting a further assessment of his mental state. In the pursuant hearing on June 22, Chapman said [[God]] had told him to plead guilty and that he would not change his plea or ever [[appeal]], regardless of his sentence. Marks told the court that he opposed Chapman's change of plea but that Chapman would not listen to him since reporting having had two conversations with God on June 8 and June 10. Judge Dennis Edwards refused a further assessment, said Chapman had made the decision of his own [[free will]], and declared him competent to plead guilty.<ref>The Guardian newspaper (June 23, 1981) [http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/1981/jun/23/fromthearchive Chapman admits murder]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/22/newsid_2518000/2518621.stm 1981: Chapman pleads guilty to Lennon murder]</ref><ref name="TwoMarks"/> |
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On August 24, the [[Sentence (law)|sentencing hearing]] took place. Two psychiatrists gave evidence on Chapman's behalf. Judge Dennis Edwards interrupted the second psychiatrist, saying the purpose of the hearing was to determine the sentence and that there was no question of Chapman's criminal responsibility, drawing applause from the courtroom. The [[District Attorney]] said Chapman did it as an easy route to fame. The defense lawyer said Chapman did not even appreciate why he was there. When Chapman was asked if he had anything to say, he rose and read a passage from ''The Catcher in the Rye''. The judge ordered that Chapman should receive psychiatric treatment in prison and [[Sentence (law)|sentenced]] him to 20 years to [[life sentence|life]], slightly less than the maximum possible of 25 years to life.<ref>The Guardian newspaper (August 25, 1981) [http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1662593,00.html Lennon's killer to serve 20 years]</ref> |
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Your bot or you I dunno which tagged [[:Image:Ethan Erickson.jpg|Ethan Erickson Image]] for deletion for being orphaned when it was already part of the article [[Patrick Drake|Dr. Patrick Drake]].[[User:Onelifefreak2007|P.J.]] ([[User talk:Onelifefreak2007|talk]]) 05:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==Life in Attica== |
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:{{fixed}} [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman has been imprisoned since 1981 in [[Attica State Prison]], outside of [[Buffalo, New York]]. |
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== AfD closure incomplete == |
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You closed [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of humanoid and synthetic Combine in Half-Life 2]] as a delete, but you've only deleted one of the two articles nominated. Could you please also deal with the other article nominated, [[List of Combine non-combat technology in Half-Life 2]]. -- [[User:S@bre|Sabre]] ([[User talk:S@bre|talk]]) 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman [[fasting|fasted]] for 26 days in [[February 1982]]. After the [[New York State Supreme Court]] authorized the state to [[force feeding|force feed]] him, Dr. Martin Von Holden, the director of the Central New York Psychiatric Center, said Chapman still refused to eat with other inmates but agreed to take liquid nutrients.<Ref>New York Times [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E7D8143BF931A35750C0A964948260&sec=health&spon= Chapman Breaks His 26-Day Fast] March 2, 1982</ref> |
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:My bad, thanks for the heads up. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman has been confined within a Special Housing Unit for violent and at-risk prisoners. There are 105 other prisoners in the building "who are not considered to pose a threat to him," according to the [[New York State Department of Correctional Services]]. He has his own prison cell, but "spends most of his day outside his cell working on housekeeping and in the library."<ref name="cnnden">[http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/05/chapman.parole/index.html Lennon killer denied parole]</ref> He is reported to be an [[Evangelicalism|evangelical]] [[Christian]]. |
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Is there a way to tag those images so that they can be legitimately used as inline links in a page? Right now they are at [[Template talk:GeoTemplate#google maps location label]], as inline links and not displayed, and are there to show the error caused. I don't normally upload images, other than ones I have taken, so I'm not sure of the correct form. Cheers. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Have a gorilla]] 05:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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It is also reported that Chapman works in the prison as a legal clerk and kitchen helper, but otherwise his activities are severely curtailed. He was barred from participating in the Cephas Attica workshops, a charitable organization which helps inmates to adjust to life outside prison. He is also prohibited from attending the prison's violence and [[anger management]] classes due to concern for his safety. |
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Chapman reportedly likes to read and write [[short story|short stories]]. In his parole board hearing in 2004 he described his plans, if paroled, as follows: "I would immediately try to find a job, and I really want to go from place to place, at least in the state, church to church, and tell people what happened to me and point them the way to Christ." He also said that he thought that there was a possibility he could find work as a farmhand or return to his previous trade as a printer.<ref name="autogenerated1">[http://www.courttv.com/archive/people/2000/1012/chapmantranscript.html Transcript of Mark David Chapman's Parole Board hearing]</ref> The Daily Mirror reported he wanted to set up a church with his wife.<ref>[http://www.mirror.co.uk/archive/2004/10/19/inside-the-mind-of-lennon-s-assassin-89520-14772436/ Inside the Mind of John Lennon's Assassin]</ref> |
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It appears that your Bot is removing images from sites that are properly copyrighted, including my own talk page [[Talk:Sapperbdl]]. Is their a particular reason it keeps deleting the [[:Image:CanMilEng.gif]] off my template. The Bot has NOT removed it from any other article on Wikipedia. Why is it doing it to mine? |
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[[User:Sapperbdl|Sapperbdl]] ([[User talk:Sapperbdl|talk]]) 03:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman is on the Family Reunion Program, and is allowed two [[conjugal visit]]s a year with his wife.<ref name="autogenerated1" /><ref>[http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24169996-7484,00.html News]</ref> The program allows him to spend up to 42 hours alone with his wife in a specially built prison home. He gets occasional visits from his sister, a few friends, and clerics. |
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:Non-free images are not allowed on user pages. See [[WP:NFCC]] for more information. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 05:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::So exactly how am I suppose to get ''an'' image, not necessarily that one, on my userpage. That image is of the cap badge of the [[Canadian Military Engineers]], to which I belong? [[User:Sapperbdl|Sapperbdl]] ([[User talk:Sapperbdl|talk]]) 13:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC) |
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James Flateau, spokesman for the state Department of Correctional Services, said in 2004 that Chapman had been involved in three "minor incidents" between 1989 and 1994 for delaying an inmate count and refusing to follow an order, but nothing else since 1994.<ref>[http://blogcritics.org/archives/2002/10/09/134608.php#20021009134608 Lennon Killer Chapman Denied Parole]</ref> |
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==Parole applications and campaigns== |
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Chapman has been denied [[parole]] five times, by a three-member board, in closed hearings lasting less than an hour, in [[October 2000]], [[October 2002]], [[October 2004]], [[October 2006]] and [[August 2008]]. |
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Prior to the 2000 hearing, [[Yoko Ono]] sent a letter to the board opposing the release of Chapman.<ref>CNN Assignment Editor Jonathan Wald writes on CNN.com on October 6, 2004 about [http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/05/chapman.parole/index.html Ono's consistent opposition to parole]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/955216.stm Text of Ono's 2000 letter sent to parole hearings, from the BBC]</ref> In addition, State Senator [[Michael Nozzolio|Michael F. Nozzolio]], chairman of the Senate Crime Victims, Crime and Correction Committee, wrote to Parole Board Chairman Brion Travis saying that "It is the responsibility of the New York State Parole Board to ensure that public safety is protected from the release of dangerous criminals like Mark David Chapman."<ref>[http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/law.and.entertainment/10/03/chapman.parole.02/index.html John Lennon's killer denied parole]</ref> |
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At the 50-minute hearing in 2000, Chapman stated that he was not a danger to society and had overcome the psychological problems that he had at the time of the murder. He also stated that, as a [[Conservatism|conservative]], he believed he did not deserve to be free. He also spoke about regret for the murder's effect on Yoko Ono.<ref name="autogenerated1" /> The parole board concluded that releasing Chapman at that time would "deprecate the seriousness of the crime and serve to undermine respect for the law" and that Chapman's granting of media interviews represented a continued interest in "maintaining your notoriety". They noted that although Chapman had an "exemplary disciplinary record" while in prison, he had been in special protective housing and so unable to access "anti-violence and/or anti-aggression programming."<ref>[http://starbulletin.com/2000/10/03/news/story3.html Parole denied to Lennon killer Mark Chapman]</ref> |
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== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daxter]] == |
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Is '''delete''' what you really meant to say here? No editors had favored '''delete''' and I see that you haven't (yet) deleted it. [[User:JJL|JJL]] ([[User talk:JJL|talk]]) 00:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Robert Gangi, a lawyer for the Correctional Association of New York, said he thought it unlikely Chapman would ever be freed because the board would not risk the "political heat" of releasing the killer of John Lennon.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/955074.stm Lennon killer denied parole]</ref> |
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:I deleted it because redirecting Daxter to Daxter (video game) would be silly, so I moved Daxter (video game) to Daxter. If you would like the article text undeleted somewhere for a merge I'd be happy to. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 00:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::No, thanks--I get it now! [[User:JJL|JJL]] ([[User talk:JJL|talk]]) 00:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Third Echelon]] == |
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In 2002, the parole board stated again that releasing Chapman after 22 years in prison would "deprecate the seriousness" of the crime, and that while his behavioral record continued to be very positive, it was no predictor of his community behavior.<ref>http://www.instantkarma.com/instantnewssepoct02.html Instant News]</ref> |
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I think you meant Redirect to [[Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell]]? It's just a double redirect now! ;) – <span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; font-size:15px;">'''[[User:Toon05|Toon]][[User talk:Toon05|<span style="color:blue"><sup>(talk)</sup></span>]]'''</span> 00:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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The parole board held a third hearing in 2004. The board reported that their decision was based on the interview, a review of records and deliberation. The board declined parole again. One of the reasons given by the board was having subjected Yoko Ono to "monumental suffering by her witnessing the crime."<ref name="cnnden"/> Around 6,000 people had signed an online petition against Chapman's release by this time. Lennon fans were threatening retribution if he were to be released.<ref>[http://www.guardian.co.uk/thebeatles/story/0,,1313883,00.html Lennon fans threaten his killer as release looms]</ref> |
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:Yep, thanks. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Prem Rawat Foundation AFD & article == |
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Hi BJ, I just wanted to let you know about this AFD you closed. One of the authors of the original article you deleted within a few hours moved it back to main space, but I moved it back for them to user space as there has been no DRV. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jossi&oldid=239734943#Just_deleted_articles_restored_to_main_space_-_I_moved_it_to_your_user_space Details are here]. Thanks. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 05:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC) |
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In [[October 2006]], the parole board held a 16-minute hearing and concluded that his release would not be in the best interest of the community or his own personal safety.<ref>[http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=19&id=1505872006 John Lennon's killer refused parole for the fourth time]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6039276.stm Lennon killer fails in parole bid]</ref> |
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Oh, and it's on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Procedural_question_-_admins_recovering_deleted_article_content... AN now] since I didn't want to be involved any further. This is out of my pay grade unfortunately... <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 05:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC) |
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On [[December 8]], [[2006]], the 26th anniversary of Lennon's death, Yoko Ono published a one-page advertisement in several newspapers saying that, while December 8 should be a "day of forgiveness," she had not yet forgiven Chapman and was not sure if she was ready to yet.<ref>Irish Examiner news December 8, 2006 Yoko [http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaking/story.asp?j=235103050&p=z35yx3865&n=235103936 Ono not ready to forgive Lennon's killer]</ref> |
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== Hi == |
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I've posted another request at [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval]]. I've been hoping you'd take a look at it. '''''[[User talk:The Transhumanist|<font color="#880088">Th</font><font color="#0000FF">e Tr</font><font color="#449900">ans</font><font color="#DD9922">hu</font><font color="#DD4400">man</font><font color="#BB0000">ist</font> ]]''''' 21:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman's fifth hearing was on [[August 12]], [[2008]]. He was again denied parole "due to concern for the public safety and welfare" <ref>[http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/12/lennons-killer-denies-parole/ Lennon's Killer Denied Parole]</ref> |
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== Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magibon (2nd nomination) == |
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I would like to add a few comments but unfortunate for me, the discussion seems to be closed and archived, I would like to know if it be possible for you to prolong the said discussion. I believe it to be in the better interest of wikipedia and subject of the article to do so. |
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== Motivation and mental health == |
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It has been suggested that, as a young boy, Chapman was "very sensitive and that his parents' anger towards each other intruded upon his normal development. He retreated from a very early age into a fantasy world."<ref>[http://www.courttv.com/talk/chat_transcripts/deathofabeatle.html Transcript of Court TV interview with Jack Jones]</ref> For a period during his teens he regularly smoked marijuana and ingested [[LSD]]. Chapman was a fan of the Beatles, particularly Lennon, but was reportedly angered by Lennon's infamous 1966 remark that the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus." Jan Reeves, sister of one of Chapman's best friends, reports that Chapman "seemed really angry toward John Lennon, and he kept saying he could not understand why John Lennon had said it. According to Mark, there should be nobody more popular than the Lord Jesus Christ. He said it was [[blasphemy]]. Chapman had also read in a library book (''John Lennon: One Day at a Time'' by Anthony Fawcett) about Lennon's life in New York. "He was angry that Lennon would preach love and peace but yet have millions [of dollars]," said his wife Gloria. Chapman later said that "He told us to [[Imagine (song)|imagine no possessions]], and there he was, with millions of dollars and yachts and farms and country estates, laughing at people like me who had believed the lies and bought the records and built a big part of their lives around his music."<ref name="jlend">[http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=73#_ednref30 March 4, 1966: The Beginning of the End for John Lennon?] Lynne H. Schultz, 2001, retrieved December 26, 2006.</ref> |
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Also, Could I get a detailed (but not too detailed) guide of how the votes were counted? Thanks. |
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At some point, Chapman became obsessed with ''Catcher in the Rye'' after rereading it for the first time since high school. He was particularly influenced by protagonist Holden Caulfield's [[polemic]]s against "phoniness" in society, and the need to protect people, especially children. He was holding a copy of the book when he murdered Lennon, in which he had written "This is my statement." After his arrest, he wrote a letter to the media urging everyone to read the "extraordinary book" that may "help many to understand what has happened."<ref>[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9E00E1D8133BF93AA35751C0A967948260 1981 New York Times report on Chapman]</ref> When asked if he wanted to address the court at his sentencing, Chapman read a passage from ''Catcher in the Rye'' that describes Holden Caulfield's fantasy of being on the edge of a cliff and having to catch all children from falling. A psychiatrist at the sentencing, Daniel W. Schwartz, said that Chapman wanted to kill Lennon because he viewed him as a "phony". Chapman later said that he thought the murder would turn him into a Holden Caulfield, a "quasi-savior" and "guardian angel". |
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[[User:Hetelllies|Hetelllies]] ([[User talk:Hetelllies|talk]]) 10:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman recalls having listened to Lennon's ''[[Plastic Ono Band]]'' album in the weeks before the murder and stated: "I would listen to this music and I would get angry at him, for saying that he didn't believe in God... and that he didn't believe in the Beatles. This was another thing that angered me, even though this record had been done at least 10 years previously. I just wanted to scream out loud, 'Who does he think he is, saying these things about God and heaven and the Beatles?' Saying that he doesn't believe in [[Jesus]] and things like that. At that point, my mind was going through a total blackness of anger and rage. So I brought the Lennon book home, into this ''Catcher in the Rye'' milieu where my mindset is Holden Caulfield and anti-phoniness."<ref name="jlend"/> Chapman later stated that, while Holden was not violent, he did "have a violent thought of shooting someone, of emptying a revolver into this fellow's stomach, someone that had done him wrong" despite being "a very sensitive person and he probably would not have killed anybody as I did. But that's fiction and reality was standing in front [of] the Dakota."<ref name="lking">[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/30/lklw.00.html A Look Back at Mark David Chapman in His Own Words, 2000] retrieved December 26, 2006]</ref> |
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:I don't think extending it would be a good idea, with the amount of single purpose account !votes it would be better to just start a new one. I discounted every !vote except for those by Ten Pound Hammer, Nsk92, Crusio, Section8pidgeon and Lankiveil. Looking at just those I didn't see any consensus either way. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, That was the answer I was looking for. I would like to add that the AFD link (for the 2nd Nomination) from the Magibon talk page links to the old AFD (1st nomination) page. I hope you will be able to rectify the link. It would be very miss leading for new comers if you fail to do so. Thanks again. [[User:Hetelllies|Hetelllies]] ([[User talk:Hetelllies|talk]]) 10:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== about deleting my image == |
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that bot was out of control! it deleted it 5 times and now u?!!? Sir, can u please restore it or at least give a valid reason for its deletion? thanks [[user:Sub619|'''<span style="background:black; color:#8888FF; border: 1px solid black"> Sub! </span>''']] 01:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Following the murder, Chapman underwent dozens of assessments by different psychiatrists. He described his anger toward his father, who he said used to hit his mother. He spoke of his identification with Holden Caulfield and with [[Dorothy Gale|Dorothy]] of ''[[The Wizard of Oz (1939 film)|The Wizard of Oz]]'', and his conferences with the "Little People", an imaginary set of people with whom he interacted and from whom he took guidance. He also provided a list of other celebrities he had thought about killing. Chapman later told journalist Jack Jones that he had told his "Little People" he intended to go to New York and kill John Lennon and they begged him not to, saying "Please, think of your wife. Please, Mr. President. Think of your mother. Think of yourself." Chapman says he told them his mind was made up, and that their reaction was silence.<ref name="brink"/> |
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== [[Articles for deletion/Fish Information and Services]] == |
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I'm interested as to why you closed off this AfD, especially since it was hijacked by [[WP:SPA|single purpose editors]] and potential sockpuppets under current investigation. [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 04:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Chapman also said that, while in New York, he had thought of leaping to his death from the [[Statue of Liberty]]. He had attempted suicide three years previously. Overall the psychiatrists concluded that, while [[delusion]]al, he was competent to stand trial. However, six were prepared to testify for the defense that Chapman was [[psychotic]]. The prosecution presented three psychiatrists who said that Chapman fell short of full psychosis.<ref>[http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/chapman/10.html Exorcism at Attica]</ref> Chapman has since said he thinks he was suffering from [[schizophrenia]], a diagnosis made by some in his pre-sentencing psychiatric assessments. Journalist Jack Jones has referred to him as a [[sociopath]].<ref name="lking"/> |
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:Because it has been five days? [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 04:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::Please note that there has been proven sockpuppetry involved in the deletion discussion. see [[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Spindoctor69]] [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 13:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:::I'm aware, their votes were not taken into account when closing. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 15:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC) |
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::::But they had the potential to dissuade others from voting. [[User:Michellecrisp|Michellecrisp]] ([[User talk:Michellecrisp|talk]]) 15:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[70th Mechanised Infantry Brigade (Turkey)]] == |
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Chapman stated to his parole board hearing in 2000 that "I feel that I see John Lennon now not as a celebrity. I did then. I saw him as a cardboard cutout on an album cover. I was very young and stupid, and you get caught up in the media and the records and the music. And now I've come to grips with the fact that John Lennon was a person. This has nothing to do with being a Beatle or a celebrity or famous."<ref name="chaps"/> |
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This was a Turkish translation page waiting for a translation to take place. Would you explain why you deleted it? [[User:Buckshot06|Buckshot06]]([[User:Kirill Lokshin/Professionalism|prof]]) 10:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
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In his 2006 parole board hearing, when asked if he did it to become famous, Chapman said "The result would be that I would be famous, the result would be that my life would change and I would receive a tremendous amount of attention, which I did receive... I was in a very confused, dark place. I was looking for reasons to vent all that anger and confusion and low self-esteem." He stated that "I believe that if I really wanted to, I could have changed my mind; I had ample opportunity to do it and I didn't do it and I regret that deeply."<ref>[http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_292175840.html Chapman, On Lennon Murder: 'I Regret It Deeply]</ref> |
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:The request page should be a subpage of Wikipedia:Translation/, not in the article space. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 21:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Accusation of vandalism on [[1988]] == |
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Oh, sorry, it was an accident. I completely forgot about the credibility which Wikipedia always strives to maintain. --[[User:Garzj019|Garzj019]] ([[User talk:Garzj019|talk]]) 02:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Media and film == |
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== Blatant advertising on Allscripts == |
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Following the murder, and for the first six years in Attica, Chapman refused all requests for interviews. James R. Gaines then interviewed him and wrote a three-part, 18,000-word [[People magazine|''People'' magazine]] series in [[February 1987|February]] and [[March 1987]]. Chapman told the parole board it was an interview "which I regret." Chapman later gave a series of interviews to Jack Jones of the [[Rochester, New York]]-based ''[[Democrat and Chronicle]]'' newspaper. In 1992 Jones published a book, ''Let Me Take You Down: Inside the Mind of Mark David Chapman, the Man Who Killed John Lennon''. In 2000, with his first parole hearing approaching, Jones asked Chapman to tell his story for ''Mugshots'', a [[CourtTV]] program. Chapman refused to go on camera but, after praying over it, consented to tell his story in a series of audiotapes. He told the parole board that the program "took a lot out of context, but that's okay." and that "Those three hours later were really great, because I was able really – it was like a [[confession]] almost. I was able to accept my responsibility in this for probably the first real time, and I told him I didn't deserve anything." |
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My intent is a scholarly and workmanlike entry with a neutral point of view and verification. The article's internal and external references support notability. I'd like to try again, paying close attention to requirements. I'll remove the unfulfilled table of content entries that appear to simply be advertising for products. |
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Chapman's experiences during the weekend on which he committed the murder have been turned in to a feature-length movie called ''[[Chapter 27 (film)|Chapter 27]]'', starring actor [[Jared Leto]] as Chapman. The film's title is a reference to ''The Catcher in the Rye'', which has 26 chapters, and was inspired by Chapter 27 of Robert Rosen's book ''[[Nowhere Man: The Final Days of John Lennon]]'', according to the British music magazine ''[[Mojo (magazine)|Mojo]]'' ([[December 2007]]) and the [[Spanish language]] newsweekly ''[[Proceso (magazine)|Proceso]]''<ref>[http://www.proceso.com.mx/noticia.html?nid=35588&cat=6 PLATOS LASER: Mark Chapman, el asesino de Lennon]</ref> and other Latin American publications. ''Chapter 27'' premiered at the [[Sundance Film Festival]] in [[January 2007]] and received mostly negative reviews. The film had a limited release in theaters in the [[United States]] in [[March 2008]].<ref>[http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/071012/0314623.html Peace Arch Entertainment's 'Chapter 27' Wins Debut Feature Prize at Zurich Film Festival for Director Jarret Shaeffer: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> ''Chapter 27'' was released widely onto [[DVD]] on [[September 30]], [[2008]]. |
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How do I gain access to do this? Your guidance is appreciated. |
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A number of [[conspiracy theories]] have been published, based on [[CIA]] and [[FBI]] surveillance of Lennon due to his [[left-wing]] activism, and on the actions of Mark Chapman in the murder and subsequent legal proceedings. <ref>Fenton Bresler (1990) Who Killed John Lennon? St. Martin's Press ISBN 0312923678</ref> |
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[[User:Murry1|Murry1]] ([[User talk:Murry1|talk]]) 15:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC) |
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In 1982, [[Rhino Records]] released a compilation of Beatles-related novelty and parody songs, called ''[[Beatlesongs]]'', it featured a caracture of Chapman of the cover which was drawn by William Stout. Following its release, Rhino recalled the record and replaced it with another cover.<ref>http://www.rutlemania.org/lean3.html Beatlesongs cover</ref> |
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[[England|English]] [[singer-songwriter]] [[Julian Cope]] released the song "Don't Call Me Mark Chapman" on his 1994 album ''[[Autogeddon]]'', containing the lyrics, "It's all going off in his hands/A deadly assassin, yeah/What will his money buy now?" |
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I5 requires 7 days of disuse - this image had been disused for ~hours. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=QuickTime&diff=242050139&oldid=241741232 |
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Texas [[art-rock]] band [[And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] released a song "Mark David Chapman" on the album ''[[Madonna (...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead album)|Madonna]]'', which was released in 1999. |
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Furthermore, it was replaced with a more copyrighted image that needs to be deleted, and the image you deleted restored - see the old IfD [[Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_June_4|here]]. [[User:WilyD|Wily]]<font color="FF8800">[[User talk:WilyD|D]]</font> 03:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[Irish people|Irish]] band [[The Cranberries]] recorded the song "[[I Just Shot John Lennon]]", which was included on their 1996 album ''[[To the Faithful Departed]]''. |
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:They are both bad screenshots, I'll just make a better one. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:Better? [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 04:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::That's also fine. I can't say whether anyone else'll object or not, though. [[User:WilyD|Wily]]<font color="FF8800">[[User talk:WilyD|D]]</font> 10:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC) |
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''[[The Killing of John Lennon]]'', a 2006 [[docudrama|dramatized documentary]] starring [[Jonas Ball]] as Mark David Chapman, portrays the series of events leading up to Lennon's murder. |
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[[Australia]]n rocker [[Rick Springfield]] wrote a song titled "3 Warning Shots" on his [[July 2008]] release ''[[Venus in Overdrive]]'' about Mark David Chapman and the murder of John Lennon. Springfield, who credits the Beatles and especially Lennon in his songwriting, refuses to mention Chapman's name in the song or when describing the song in interview. The song is not about Lennon's murder, but the anger Springfield feels towards Chapman. |
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I recently got three notices posted to my talk page at once by BJBot regarding orphaned fair use images that I had previously uploaded, but in all three cases it turns out that the images are orphaned precisely because new .png conversions were uploaded via the bot itself just before the notices were posted to my talk page. I have no objection to the file conversions, obviously, and given that they've been converted I have no objection to the old .jpg or .gif files being deleted, either — but is there a way that the bot could, in future, distinguish "your image is actually orphaned" from "your old image is going to be deleted because it's been converted to .png format" so that the user doesn't have to waste time ''investigating'' why the image is orphaned? Thanks. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 14:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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On [[Mindless Self Indulgence]]'s 2008 album If, there is a song "Mark David Chapman." |
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:I suggest your [[User:BJBot|bot]] is stopped until you rewrite it to prevent what is happening. [[User:English_peasant/Automated_message_dump_7| This]] is rather excessive and unnecessary. 121 messages to one person in one day, and not one of them was needed, as all the images listed (which had to be checked individually) had been replaced by png files. It may be a matter of looking into the process of replacing these files so that the originals are automatically deleted without a message, but in the meantime, your bot's messages are causing work which need not be done. I've personally had three today. Regards <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 16:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::{{fixed}}, it should no longer notify the uploader when a {{tl|PNG version available}} template is on the image. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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* [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3745492.stm Article on Mark Chapman] which argues that he killed for fame ([[BBC]]) |
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* [http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/december/8/newsid_2536000/2536321.stm BBC News Report with actual news footage from the time on right hand side of page] |
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* [http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics4/chapman/ A Crime Library article on Mark David Chapman, by Fred McGunagle] |
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*[http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/mugshots/indepth/chapman.html Court TV News "in-depth" section on Chapman] |
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Hello, Bjweeks. I wanna just to know if you're publishing your [[User:BJBot|BJBot]]'s sources code or not. It may be very useful if you do :)--[[User:OsamaK|O]][[User talk:OsamaK|sama]][[Special:Contributions/OsamaK|K]]<sup>Reply? on my [[User talk:OsamaK|talk page]], please</sup> 23:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Hoffmann Estates Logo == |
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[[Category:John Lennon]] |
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I am very confused. I uploaded the image at: Image:Hoffmanestatesil.gif It appears to still be in use on the Hoffman Estates, Illinois page and not orphaned. Am I missing something? [[User:Racepacket|Racepacket]] ([[User talk:Racepacket|talk]]) 01:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[bs:Mark David Chapman]] |
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:It got converted to [[:Image:Hoffmanestatesil.png]]. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[bg:Марк Дейвид Чапман]] |
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== Just a question == |
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Just a question, can I ask if three days are sufficient for {{user|Einsteindonut}} epecially this is not his/her the first time for using such comments<span style="font: 13pt 'Arial';">«</span> [[User:Puttyschool|<span style="color:darkblue">PuTTY</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Puttyschool#top|<font color="darkgreen">Sch</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Puttyschool|<font color="darkred">OOL</font>]]</sup> 10:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== regarding Gary Weiss == |
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[[eo:Mark David Chapman]] |
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What exactly is wrong in adding the controversy part without passing a judgement? facts backed by multiple references is not welcomed, huh? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Groovy12|Groovy12]] ([[User talk:Groovy12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Groovy12|contribs]]) 07:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[ga:Mark David Chapman]] |
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:Are you asserting that antisocialmedia.net is a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]? [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 07:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[id:Mark David Chapman]] |
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What about http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/01/wikipedia_and_naked_shorting??? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.38.179.94|75.38.179.94]] ([[User talk:75.38.179.94|talk]]) 12:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[he:מרק דייוויד צ'פמן]] |
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Can you pls respond here? |
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[[lt:Mark David Chapman]] |
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Wikipedia must be careful in moderating Gary Weiss page given some allegations (I guess I dont need to provide a reference here) that someone at wikimedia doesnt like Patrick Byrne! |
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[[nl:Mark David Chapman]] |
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[[ja:マーク・チャップマン]] |
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And, if I get banned for just saying this (I hope not), my worst fears about wikipedia just came true and I would of course never donate anything to wikimedia. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Groovy12|Groovy12]] ([[User talk:Groovy12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Groovy12|contribs]]) 18:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[no:Mark David Chapman]] |
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:Just because somebody is claiming bias does not change how the rules are enforced. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[pl:Mark David Chapman]] |
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BJ, thats what I want to know? What rules are you referring to? |
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[[ru:Чепмен, Марк Дэвид]] |
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There is big controversy surrounding the guy, picked by tens of news sites. And you are not letting it be included. |
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[[simple:Mark David Chapman]] |
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how is page about Weiss complete withtout this - I dont understand. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Groovy12|Groovy12]] ([[User talk:Groovy12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Groovy12|contribs]]) 18:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[sk:Mark David Chapman]] |
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:The controversy section has been long warred over. If you feel that something has changed, write a draft and post it to the talk page for discussion. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[sr:Марк Дејвид Чапман]] |
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== Linking authors == |
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You recently removed a link to the author in a source citation [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duke_of_Burgundy&curid=357292&diff=243347280&oldid=226964942 (here)]. It's really no skin off my nose, but I would point out the article on [[Wikipedia:Citing Sources|Citing Sources]] mentions: |
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[[zh:马克·大卫·查普曼]] |
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''If your source is not findable online, it should be findable in reputable libraries, archives, or collections. If a citation without an external link is challenged as unfindable, any of the following is sufficient to show the material to be reasonably findable (though not necessarily reliable): providing an ISBN or OCLC number; '''linking to an established Wikipedia article about the source (the work, its author, or its publisher)'''; or directly quoting the material on the talk page, briefly and in context.'' |
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Although in this case the source is findable online, I can find (after a cursory search, admittedly) no specific interdiction concerned with linking authors' names in source citations with Wikipedia articles on that particular author. In fact, if anything, it increases verifiability, which is surely a point in its favour. If there is such an interdiction, could you please point it out to me; and if not, perhaps you would consider reinstating the link. |
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With many thanks. [[User:Nick Michael|Nick Michael]] ([[User talk:Nick Michael|talk]]) 14:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:User pages are not articles and should not be linked to from articles. If the author became notable enough to have an article it would make sense to then link to that. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Oh well, I'll just have to go on trying to become notable! [[User:Nick Michael|Nick Michael]] ([[User talk:Nick Michael|talk]]) 19:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Oops == |
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Sorry, it was the wrong article. I'm sorry if you think that I'm using the rollback function unproperly. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">'''[[User:K. Annoyomous24|<span style="color:#FCB926">K. Annoyomous</span>]][[User talk:K. Annoyomous24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/K._Annoyomous24|[c]]]</sub></font> 00:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Strappado merge == |
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Hello, I see that there was a discussion [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strappado bondage]], with a result to merge [[Strappado bondage]] into [[Strappado]]. The notice of the AfD does not look like it was posted to either [[Talk:Strappado bondage]] or to [[Talk:Strappado]]. This looks like a huge procedural issue, with the very editors having the most stake in both articles' disposition being excluded from the discussions. |
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Is there a process to appeal the result of an AfD? [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 03:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:[[WP:Deletion review]]. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thank you. I notice that part of the instructions for that say to "please attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page (or otherwise made the decision)," I assume by pointing me to DR, you've got no problem with that. By the way, although I'm correct above noting there was no posting on either articles talk pages, there was indeed a notice on the [[Strappado bondage]] article itself. I should have checked that. But no notice on either [[Strappado]] or [[Talk:Strappado]], so my main point remains; but I did want to acknowledge my error. [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 04:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::I just commented on the DR, I'm not quite sure if you are contesting how I closed the AfD or the lack of advertising. Either way, no objections. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 04:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::::Got it. To be clear, I'm not criticizing you, or for that matter, anyone. Everyone seems to have acted in good faith here, but the editors of [[Strappado]] were shut out, since the AfD morphed into a merge discussion. If it had been proposed as a merge from the get-go, both articles would have had notice. [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 04:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Regarding [[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop]] == |
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''from your bots archives'' <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 19:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi there, when a requester posts a non-free image for cleanup, vectorization, ect. they don't always read the How-to and end up posting the direct image onto the page. ie <nowiki>[[Image:Copyrighted.jpg]]</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[:Image:Copyrighted.jpg]]</nowiki> BJBot replaces <nowiki>[[Image:Copyrighted.jpg]]</nowiki> with the copyright notice image. This is very unhelpful as it sometimes makes it impossible for a graphist to know what image was posted without going back (sometimes through 100s of edits) into the history to find the image. It would be of much greater help if BJBot could replace <nowiki>[[Image:Copyrighted.jpg]]</nowiki> with <nowiki>[[:Image:Copyrighted.jpg]]</nowiki> so graphists still know which image is in need of repair. I know it's possible, just wondering if you'd be so kind to implement it? <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 02:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:Is this possible? <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 16:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::Yep, I'll add it within a few days. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Awesome! Thanks for the help. <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Stepshep|§hep]]</font> • <font color="green" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Stepshep|¡Talk to me!]]</font> 17:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::::{{done}} and committed but untested. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 06:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Deletion == |
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* {{On AFD|Training and development}} |
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By way of experiment, I deliberately didn't touch the discussion when fixing the article. (I have another experiment currently at {{On AFD|Corporate personality}} where I have.) Compare the article as it actually stood at the time of closure against what was said about it in the rationales given, and note the lack of any discussion after the first 4 hours. Re-listing to engender further discussion would probably have been better. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 14:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:I don't check for clandestine rewrites when closing AfDs... [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 00:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alsek Air Service]] == |
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I would like to ask you to reconsider your decision to close this as no consensus. While stricly counting "votes" would produce this result, as I pointed out in the debate, several of the keep voters were canvassed by [[User: Zyxw ]], as can be seen from his contributions, and most of the keep arhuments were not based in any way on established Wikipedia conventions or policies. I thought I would ask you to re-examine before going ahead with a request at DRV, because I think the delete voters, including myself, made more rational and policy based arguments and were not canvassed for their participation. Thanks. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 16:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:I've reviewed it and I'm still not seeing any consensus either way, I think reviewing the close at DRV would be best. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 00:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== I oppose the deletion of Cell == |
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It has not been 5 days yet, and I just convinced bsimmons to change his vote. Given this is so disputed, and there is currently a mediation on it, I request an immediate unmerge for more time to discuss this. I will take it to appeal if it isn't unmerged, less than 5 days on something this disputed is just against policy[[User:JJJ999|JJJ999]] ([[User talk:JJJ999|talk]]) 01:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:The mediation cabal case is non-binding and between you and the other user. It has zero affect on anything. The debate was hardly contested with a clear consensus towards merging. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::{{drvlinks|pg=Cell (Dragon Ball)|ns=Article}} There you go. Feel free to improve the format[[User:JJJ999|JJJ999]] ([[User talk:JJJ999|talk]]) 01:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Cell == |
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You put the tags in the wrong place [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cell&curid=1851871&diff=244033998&oldid=237017779]. Those go on [[Talk:Cell (Dragon Ball)]], not [[Talk:Cell]]. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 02:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:I use a AfD close script, seems like a bug. Thanks. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Deletion review for [[:Cell (Dragon Ball)]] == |
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Revision as of 12:57, 11 October 2008
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Can u help?
Hi. Can u help me editing images on this page? New Haven Line
Deletion review for Anne Kilkenny
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Anne Kilkenny. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
How do you justify a delete, when under identical circumstances last week Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neil Gallagher (footballer) three similiar articles were kept. Don't we need consistency? Can you expand your closing statement? Nfitz (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- No, I was just judging consensus for that debate. AfD isn't a court system and precedent is fairly meaningless. There is a debate of the interpretation over WP:ATHLETE, it would be best to attempted to have that clarified. BJTalk 17:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Image deletion request
Hi Bjweeks. You deleted this image, which was identical or very similar to this image. Would you please consider deleting this image. Thanks. Suntag (talk) 07:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Images for deletion
Hi,
Your bot recently tagged several images I uploaded for deletion (see my talk page for a full list). Several of these images were recently used in the Gunnerkrigg Court article but have been commented out for now (they are images of characters in the comic, and for the moment I have commented those characters out of the article because I decided they were not "major" enough for inclusion); I was planning on keeping the images there for future use, as the article is undergoing frequent updates and the plot of the comic (as well as different interpretations from different Wikipedia editors) may cause some of the images to be used again at short notice. Would this be reason to keep the images on Wikipedia? (I'm not challenging your judgment, I'm just asking, because I am relatively unfamiliar still with Wikipedia image and fair use guidelines.) Thanks, Politizer (talk) 05:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but I'm still waiting for a response about this question.....thanks, Politizer (talk) 02:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikistalk tool question
Does your wikistalk tool accept IPs as well as usernames? It appears to ignore any IPs (and just plain breaks if there's no valid usernames) but does count IPs in the totals (eg "edited by 1 of 2 users"). Is there a trick? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 21:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
BJBot request
I don't know if this is part of the coding or what, but when posting alerts on talk pages, the bot apparently doesn't place a "linespace" between the new alert and any existing text. Is this fixable? - jc37 06:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Fixed, Thanks! BJTalk 06:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- That was quick! Thank you : ) - jc37 09:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
About Eurovision template...
Hi, Eurovision isn't for Russia, they are host nation for this year only. But why you added Russian flag to there? Cheers.. *** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***and his friend 07:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted the addition of a non-free image, feel free to add a free image. BJTalk 07:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Talk:Track Palin
Talk:Track Palin, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:Track Palin and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Talk:Track Palin during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Grutness...wha? 01:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Ethan Erickson
Yeah
Your bot or you I dunno which tagged Ethan Erickson Image for deletion for being orphaned when it was already part of the article Dr. Patrick Drake.P.J. (talk) 05:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
AfD closure incomplete
You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of humanoid and synthetic Combine in Half-Life 2 as a delete, but you've only deleted one of the two articles nominated. Could you please also deal with the other article nominated, List of Combine non-combat technology in Half-Life 2. -- Sabre (talk) 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media, Image:CYCB 1 cropped.JPG & Image:CYCB 2 cropped.JPG
Is there a way to tag those images so that they can be legitimately used as inline links in a page? Right now they are at Template talk:GeoTemplate#google maps location label, as inline links and not displayed, and are there to show the error caused. I don't normally upload images, other than ones I have taken, so I'm not sure of the correct form. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 05:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Bot Malfunctioning
Hello, It appears that your Bot is removing images from sites that are properly copyrighted, including my own talk page Talk:Sapperbdl. Is their a particular reason it keeps deleting the Image:CanMilEng.gif off my template. The Bot has NOT removed it from any other article on Wikipedia. Why is it doing it to mine?
Sapperbdl (talk) 03:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Non-free images are not allowed on user pages. See WP:NFCC for more information. BJTalk 05:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- So exactly how am I suppose to get an image, not necessarily that one, on my userpage. That image is of the cap badge of the Canadian Military Engineers, to which I belong? Sapperbdl (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Works by the Canadian government are under crown copyright for 50 years. You can use any free image. Anything on Wikimedia Commons or images here uploaded with a free license. BJTalk 13:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- So exactly how am I suppose to get an image, not necessarily that one, on my userpage. That image is of the cap badge of the Canadian Military Engineers, to which I belong? Sapperbdl (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (Image:Bran1.jpg)
Thanks for uploading Image:Bran1.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 05:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Is delete what you really meant to say here? No editors had favored delete and I see that you haven't (yet) deleted it. JJL (talk) 00:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- I deleted it because redirecting Daxter to Daxter (video game) would be silly, so I moved Daxter (video game) to Daxter. If you would like the article text undeleted somewhere for a merge I'd be happy to. BJTalk 00:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I think you meant Redirect to Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell? It's just a double redirect now! ;) – Toon(talk) 00:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Prem Rawat Foundation AFD & article
Hi BJ, I just wanted to let you know about this AFD you closed. One of the authors of the original article you deleted within a few hours moved it back to main space, but I moved it back for them to user space as there has been no DRV. Details are here. Thanks. rootology (C)(T) 05:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and it's on AN now since I didn't want to be involved any further. This is out of my pay grade unfortunately... rootology (C)(T) 05:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi
I've posted another request at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval. I've been hoping you'd take a look at it. The Transhumanist 21:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magibon (2nd nomination)
I would like to add a few comments but unfortunate for me, the discussion seems to be closed and archived, I would like to know if it be possible for you to prolong the said discussion. I believe it to be in the better interest of wikipedia and subject of the article to do so.
Also, Could I get a detailed (but not too detailed) guide of how the votes were counted? Thanks.
Hetelllies (talk) 10:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think extending it would be a good idea, with the amount of single purpose account !votes it would be better to just start a new one. I discounted every !vote except for those by Ten Pound Hammer, Nsk92, Crusio, Section8pidgeon and Lankiveil. Looking at just those I didn't see any consensus either way. BJTalk 10:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, That was the answer I was looking for. I would like to add that the AFD link (for the 2nd Nomination) from the Magibon talk page links to the old AFD (1st nomination) page. I hope you will be able to rectify the link. It would be very miss leading for new comers if you fail to do so. Thanks again. Hetelllies (talk) 10:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
about deleting my image
that bot was out of control! it deleted it 5 times and now u?!!? Sir, can u please restore it or at least give a valid reason for its deletion? thanks Sub! 01:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm interested as to why you closed off this AfD, especially since it was hijacked by single purpose editors and potential sockpuppets under current investigation. Michellecrisp (talk) 04:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Because it has been five days? BJTalk 04:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please note that there has been proven sockpuppetry involved in the deletion discussion. see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Spindoctor69 Michellecrisp (talk) 13:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm aware, their votes were not taken into account when closing. BJTalk 15:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- But they had the potential to dissuade others from voting. Michellecrisp (talk) 15:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm aware, their votes were not taken into account when closing. BJTalk 15:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please note that there has been proven sockpuppetry involved in the deletion discussion. see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Spindoctor69 Michellecrisp (talk) 13:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This was a Turkish translation page waiting for a translation to take place. Would you explain why you deleted it? Buckshot06(prof) 10:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- The request page should be a subpage of Wikipedia:Translation/, not in the article space. BJTalk 21:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Accusation of vandalism on 1988
Oh, sorry, it was an accident. I completely forgot about the credibility which Wikipedia always strives to maintain. --Garzj019 (talk) 02:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Blatant advertising on Allscripts
My intent is a scholarly and workmanlike entry with a neutral point of view and verification. The article's internal and external references support notability. I'd like to try again, paying close attention to requirements. I'll remove the unfulfilled table of content entries that appear to simply be advertising for products.
How do I gain access to do this? Your guidance is appreciated.
Murry1 (talk) 15:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Image:Quicktime 7 Leopard.png
I5 requires 7 days of disuse - this image had been disused for ~hours. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=QuickTime&diff=242050139&oldid=241741232
Furthermore, it was replaced with a more copyrighted image that needs to be deleted, and the image you deleted restored - see the old IfD here. WilyD 03:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- They are both bad screenshots, I'll just make a better one. BJTalk 03:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- Better? BJTalk 04:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Image bot question
I recently got three notices posted to my talk page at once by BJBot regarding orphaned fair use images that I had previously uploaded, but in all three cases it turns out that the images are orphaned precisely because new .png conversions were uploaded via the bot itself just before the notices were posted to my talk page. I have no objection to the file conversions, obviously, and given that they've been converted I have no objection to the old .jpg or .gif files being deleted, either — but is there a way that the bot could, in future, distinguish "your image is actually orphaned" from "your old image is going to be deleted because it's been converted to .png format" so that the user doesn't have to waste time investigating why the image is orphaned? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 14:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- I suggest your bot is stopped until you rewrite it to prevent what is happening. This is rather excessive and unnecessary. 121 messages to one person in one day, and not one of them was needed, as all the images listed (which had to be checked individually) had been replaced by png files. It may be a matter of looking into the process of replacing these files so that the originals are automatically deleted without a message, but in the meantime, your bot's messages are causing work which need not be done. I've personally had three today. Regards SilkTork *YES! 16:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed, it should no longer notify the uploader when a {{PNG version available}} template is on the image. BJTalk 17:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Bots source code
Hello, Bjweeks. I wanna just to know if you're publishing your BJBot's sources code or not. It may be very useful if you do :)--OsamaKReply? on my talk page, please 23:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Hoffmann Estates Logo
I am very confused. I uploaded the image at: Image:Hoffmanestatesil.gif It appears to still be in use on the Hoffman Estates, Illinois page and not orphaned. Am I missing something? Racepacket (talk) 01:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- It got converted to Image:Hoffmanestatesil.png. BJTalk 01:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Just a question
Just a question, can I ask if three days are sufficient for Einsteindonut (talk · contribs) epecially this is not his/her the first time for using such comments« PuTTYSchOOL 10:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
regarding Gary Weiss
What exactly is wrong in adding the controversy part without passing a judgement? facts backed by multiple references is not welcomed, huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Groovy12 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Are you asserting that antisocialmedia.net is a reliable source? BJTalk 07:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
What about http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/01/wikipedia_and_naked_shorting??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.38.179.94 (talk) 12:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Can you pls respond here? Wikipedia must be careful in moderating Gary Weiss page given some allegations (I guess I dont need to provide a reference here) that someone at wikimedia doesnt like Patrick Byrne!
And, if I get banned for just saying this (I hope not), my worst fears about wikipedia just came true and I would of course never donate anything to wikimedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Groovy12 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Just because somebody is claiming bias does not change how the rules are enforced. BJTalk 18:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
BJ, thats what I want to know? What rules are you referring to?
There is big controversy surrounding the guy, picked by tens of news sites. And you are not letting it be included.
how is page about Weiss complete withtout this - I dont understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Groovy12 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- The controversy section has been long warred over. If you feel that something has changed, write a draft and post it to the talk page for discussion. BJTalk 18:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Linking authors
You recently removed a link to the author in a source citation (here). It's really no skin off my nose, but I would point out the article on Citing Sources mentions:
If your source is not findable online, it should be findable in reputable libraries, archives, or collections. If a citation without an external link is challenged as unfindable, any of the following is sufficient to show the material to be reasonably findable (though not necessarily reliable): providing an ISBN or OCLC number; linking to an established Wikipedia article about the source (the work, its author, or its publisher); or directly quoting the material on the talk page, briefly and in context.
Although in this case the source is findable online, I can find (after a cursory search, admittedly) no specific interdiction concerned with linking authors' names in source citations with Wikipedia articles on that particular author. In fact, if anything, it increases verifiability, which is surely a point in its favour. If there is such an interdiction, could you please point it out to me; and if not, perhaps you would consider reinstating the link.
With many thanks. Nick Michael (talk) 14:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- User pages are not articles and should not be linked to from articles. If the author became notable enough to have an article it would make sense to then link to that. BJTalk 18:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh well, I'll just have to go on trying to become notable! Nick Michael (talk) 19:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Oops
Sorry, it was the wrong article. I'm sorry if you think that I'm using the rollback function unproperly. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 00:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Strappado merge
Hello, I see that there was a discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strappado bondage, with a result to merge Strappado bondage into Strappado. The notice of the AfD does not look like it was posted to either Talk:Strappado bondage or to Talk:Strappado. This looks like a huge procedural issue, with the very editors having the most stake in both articles' disposition being excluded from the discussions.
Is there a process to appeal the result of an AfD? TJRC (talk) 03:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- WP:Deletion review. BJTalk 03:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. I notice that part of the instructions for that say to "please attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page (or otherwise made the decision)," I assume by pointing me to DR, you've got no problem with that. By the way, although I'm correct above noting there was no posting on either articles talk pages, there was indeed a notice on the Strappado bondage article itself. I should have checked that. But no notice on either Strappado or Talk:Strappado, so my main point remains; but I did want to acknowledge my error. TJRC (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I just commented on the DR, I'm not quite sure if you are contesting how I closed the AfD or the lack of advertising. Either way, no objections. BJTalk 04:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Got it. To be clear, I'm not criticizing you, or for that matter, anyone. Everyone seems to have acted in good faith here, but the editors of Strappado were shut out, since the AfD morphed into a merge discussion. If it had been proposed as a merge from the get-go, both articles would have had notice. TJRC (talk) 04:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I just commented on the DR, I'm not quite sure if you are contesting how I closed the AfD or the lack of advertising. Either way, no objections. BJTalk 04:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. I notice that part of the instructions for that say to "please attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page (or otherwise made the decision)," I assume by pointing me to DR, you've got no problem with that. By the way, although I'm correct above noting there was no posting on either articles talk pages, there was indeed a notice on the Strappado bondage article itself. I should have checked that. But no notice on either Strappado or Talk:Strappado, so my main point remains; but I did want to acknowledge my error. TJRC (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Regarding Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop
from your bots archives §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, when a requester posts a non-free image for cleanup, vectorization, ect. they don't always read the How-to and end up posting the direct image onto the page. ie [[Image:Copyrighted.jpg]] instead of [[:Image:Copyrighted.jpg]] BJBot replaces [[Image:Copyrighted.jpg]] with the copyright notice image. This is very unhelpful as it sometimes makes it impossible for a graphist to know what image was posted without going back (sometimes through 100s of edits) into the history to find the image. It would be of much greater help if BJBot could replace [[Image:Copyrighted.jpg]] with [[:Image:Copyrighted.jpg]] so graphists still know which image is in need of repair. I know it's possible, just wondering if you'd be so kind to implement it? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Is this possible? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Deletion
By way of experiment, I deliberately didn't touch the discussion when fixing the article. (I have another experiment currently at Corporate personality (AfD discussion) where I have.) Compare the article as it actually stood at the time of closure against what was said about it in the rationales given, and note the lack of any discussion after the first 4 hours. Re-listing to engender further discussion would probably have been better. Uncle G (talk) 14:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I would like to ask you to reconsider your decision to close this as no consensus. While stricly counting "votes" would produce this result, as I pointed out in the debate, several of the keep voters were canvassed by User: Zyxw , as can be seen from his contributions, and most of the keep arhuments were not based in any way on established Wikipedia conventions or policies. I thought I would ask you to re-examine before going ahead with a request at DRV, because I think the delete voters, including myself, made more rational and policy based arguments and were not canvassed for their participation. Thanks. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've reviewed it and I'm still not seeing any consensus either way, I think reviewing the close at DRV would be best. BJTalk 00:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I oppose the deletion of Cell
It has not been 5 days yet, and I just convinced bsimmons to change his vote. Given this is so disputed, and there is currently a mediation on it, I request an immediate unmerge for more time to discuss this. I will take it to appeal if it isn't unmerged, less than 5 days on something this disputed is just against policyJJJ999 (talk) 01:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- The mediation cabal case is non-binding and between you and the other user. It has zero affect on anything. The debate was hardly contested with a clear consensus towards merging. BJTalk 01:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Cell
You put the tags in the wrong place [1]. Those go on Talk:Cell (Dragon Ball), not Talk:Cell. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Deletion review for Cell (Dragon Ball)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Cell (Dragon Ball). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Suntag ☼ 08:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)