Talk:Nathan Rees

Image

I know it's stating the obvious, but if anyone has an image of the NSW Premier to be, it would be greatly appreciated. It was quite a feat gaining free images of every current Premier in Australia. Timeshift (talk) 03:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Your wish is my command... I am afraid that in the small size it seems a bit dark but that's cos it was taken under the COLA at the school he was visiting for the prize giving. (I was there because my daughter was getting one) Albatross2147 (talk) 03:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

That was quick! However, is there a reason why the image contains no metadata? Timeshift (talk) 03:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Because I did a quick and dirty edit of an enormous original TIFF file and in the conversion I suppose the metadata was lost. Image metadata is not a prerequisite for inclusion of an image in Wp is it? Albatross2147 (talk) 00:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Not as far as i'm aware. I just feel that metadata gives a free image license more legitimacy. After reading what you've said, and reviewing your image contributions, I have no doubt however that the image is genuinely free. :) Timeshift (talk) 02:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Photoshop and a few other photo editing programs you can lose metadata (some RAW files converted can lose the meta easily then .jpg). Bidgee (talk) 03:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Premier

I think this and Iemma's articles are going to be busy over the coming days...hopefully not much vandalism either! --Mikecraig (talk) 04:36, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Girraween Athletics Club

User:Wilbur56 has been inserting, "During 2001 / 2002, Rees was a member of Girraween Athletics Club and specialised in middle distance events. User:Bidgee has been reverting it.[1], based on lack of source. Both editors breached WP:3RR in this. However, let's hope that this is water under the bridge. In a post to his Talk page, Wilbur56 wrote

Thank you for your patience

Hello, I have tried to add information to the Biography of Nathan Rees but you said it was deleted as it was not cited. The information I woud like to add is: [...]

I am President of Girraween Athletics Club Inc. and our club records verify the additions I have made.

Regards --Wilbur56 (talk) 00:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I responded to this editor there regarding our need for reliable source and also regarding WP:COI, which might apply, and I suggested that the editor look for newspaper articles from the time that might confirm the claim; those could be used as sources (even if not available on-line). The club records are primary sources and generally could not be used. --Abd (talk) 16:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Geez it breached WP:BIO and WP:V (and I even looked for sourced before removing it). Stop using this as a witch hunt and stop stalking. Bidgee (talk) 16:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

So even though Bidgee was acting in the best interests of ensuring entires accurate and sourced, he's the bad guy. Check. Minkythecat (talk) 16:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict with below) I don't notice any mention of "bad guy" in what I posted above. Minky, your comment seems to have been taken as literal by Bidgee, who retired over the alleged harassment; maybe he will change his mind. He's also claimed that his response here, later deleted by him, wasn't about your comment, but it doesn't make any other sense, since "bad guy" hadn't been mentioned before. Bidgee doesn't seem to understand WP:3RR, and the edit wasn't "vandalism" as he called it. It was proper to remove it, as I noted elsewhere and did not contradict above, but not necessarily proper to edit war over it, since it wasn't defamatory in any way. How about helping with this situation instead of fanning the flames? By the way, weren't you blocked for 3RR violation defending an article from improper edits? Bidgee hit 5RR and easily could have been blocked on sight. If I wanted to harass him, don't you think I'd have jumped over to WP:3RR?--Abd (talk) 01:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Get your facts right I reverted under the grounds of being unsourced and ever called it "vandalism" until the 4th or 5th time they added it since I used TW to template so see WP:BLP. Bidgee (talk) 06:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

is it really that relevant that he was a good runner and bike rider? i know not much is known about him but i just cannot see how the fact that he rode 80km to work each day is really information that needs to be shared. Plumes (talk) 01:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

People like to know this kind of stuff, and if it is notable and verifiable -- and that might be arranged for the information in question -- we really couldn't properly exclude it, my opinion. However, it's up to editorial consensus. I've advised the editor from the Club that he should consider himself COI and simply provide us with evidence here, leaving it up to editors without a conflict to decide whether or not to put it in the article.--Abd (talk) 01:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, the editor went ahead and inserted the material, now with sources. I'm going to abstain from judging it for the moment. I'll assist if it looks like there are problems. --Abd (talk) 01:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

It should be removed since the source isn't reliable (WP:BLP) (just a link to the home page of the club so it also failes WP:V) the editor has a COI and has made claims they can't back-up and Nothing found on Google (other then someone who has copied the Wiki article and posted it on a forum with the misinformation). Bidgee (talk) 05:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)