User talk:Arcayne

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* What has gone before...

So my message was worse than yours... how?

I used the same term as you. You are the one attempting cheap blows by picking at my words (poorly, since I was right) and I think I have the right to defend my statement. You are a bully and use your seniority in editing to control things and make all of the wrong moves you ask others not to. So I dont understand how my comment is any worse than the many snide remarks you make. Im sure this will end up on the History floor too... 172.134.194.254 (talk) 22:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tell the truth...

Yeah, tell the truth...you really are cutting out to watch Survivor...8^D, the VP debate isn't until they vote someone off. Goes off at 9 eastern right?. Time to go make dinner and then watch these folks starve. At least on Survivor, you get to hear the conniving thoughts from the individuals in confession! Have a good evening Arcayne, ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 23:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

gah, reality tv? penny-pinching producers decide to cut out writers and use cameramen and props to create drama? No thanks. Crap, did I just also describe combat ops?

I am back, but dead tired, so i am turning in. I will probably dream of a two headed monster from Fargo, ND.

Goodnight, User-talk page. Goodnight moon-like image of puzzle globe. Goodnight vandals seeking to evade blocks. Goodnight light humor and yellow journalism. ;) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 06:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who is from Fargo? I think you may have described most of the evening news and not just combat ops. The debate wasn't very eventful, imho, but I do wish she would cut those bangs before she gets stabbed in the eyes. ;) ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 12:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heyo

Heyo, I've made another small edit which I hope is uncontested based on the previous comments. See my reply on the talk page and let's address the points we're concerned about. Cheers, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 17:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for I'm a PC

On 5 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article I'm a PC, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

– RyanCross (talk) 23:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

groovy. :D - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 02:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it was the other commentators over at the talk page who were imputing bad faith, not me ... I hadn't been aware of the long disagreements over this, and had I not jumped to the bottom of the page I might have ignored it. Although, I did feel too many "how ironic!" quotes were included, when MS's response makes the same point that the Economist made when it reported on MS's signing of Crispin ... that of course the ad agency was going to put the ads together on Macs; that's all most of them have. I have no objections to the article including stuff about the data being erased; that's notable and not the first time MS created bad publicity for itself by trying to conceal things like that.

(If Microsoft really wants to stick it in Apple's ear, they should have done it in the portable-MP3-player segment, where they could easily take advantage of the Zune's underappreciated advantages over the iPod: They could have the same white backdrop, two guys come out, one in a black turtleneck and pants, the other in a T-shirt and jeans: "Hi, I'm an iPod" "And I'm a Zune", then a bunch of short sketches highlighting the Zune's advantages (FM radio; wireless syncing) and the iPod's disadvantages (iTunes' increasing tendency to bloatware, the lack of long-term physical durability of an iPod). They've got a brand idenitity all waiting there for them that's the reverse of the dynamic in the personal-computing market; using Apple's trope would not only take advantage of this but show Apple that they're not always the cool alternative they're pitching themselves as. Daniel Case (talk) 04:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input, Danie; you are right. others seemed to be acting the tool. You were blameless. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 13:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

props for this hook...it might be the best on DYK? this year -- CB (ö) 05:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that is one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about my input. Thanks very much. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 13:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a PC

Hello Arcayne. You seem to have a few ownership issues with the above page. I made one revert to remove the information about scrubbing which was well supported by the talk page in the lead, yet you reverted (I'm going to revert that again because what you've done is completely against consensus). I also note you've done this for basically anything you don't agree with. As it happens, you've hit three reverts in the last 24 hours so please don't revert again or you'll be blocked. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 08:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but did the definition of WP:LEAD alter drastically within the last week or so? While the Lead is an introduction to the subject matter, it is also an overview/summary of the article itself. The bit you keep removing is well-documented, been rewritten (not reverted, as the successive edits address the concerns brought up in talk - you might want to look at the edits again) and in a summary of the criticism section. I suspect that, were this to occur in any other article, there wouldn't be a lick of conflict.

The "consensus" you speak of is largely in favor of utterly ignoring any mention of the cited criticism, and one of the editors even suggested other ways that Microsoft could improve their ad campaign. If that doesn't represent a pov in favor of MS (and a protection of the article subject from criticism), I guess I am going to need you to redefine it for me.

Since you were kind enough to post the warning in my discussion, let me know if you would prefer to reply there or here. I tend to like keeping conversations in one place - my page will be fine. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 14:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is the undue weight given to it. I'm nore than happy for it to be in the critisism section, but the second mention in the lead pushes it over the line into unacceptable undue weight in my opinion. The WP:lead guideline would suggest it might be ok to add it in, however the consensus on the talk page is that this would go against WP:UNDUE. As you're aware, WP:UNDUE comes from WP:NPOV which is one of Wikipedia's core policies. In this case, the undue (and therefore NPOV) concerns fair outweigh that of inclusion based on WP:LEAD. That's my opinion and take on it anyway and I hope it helps explain my position. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 16:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heyo

Heyo Arcayne,
I was hoping we can put down the "PC lovers" argument and from now on address raised points without the added "some user did this and that". I think you've noticed that I have a bit of understanding on Wikipedia workings and that my concern was eventually picked up my multiple editors. Still, I just recently learned that major copy-edits (about 70) to a recently created article does not merit a DYK honors -- I respect this, and also congratulate you for the interesting choice and valuable efforts. Anyways, I hope we'll be able to work on a more collaborative spirit in the future.
(offtopic:) I like your new tweaks to the user-page. I never expected to see anyone use my "break icon" concept but I must say that it's fun to see.
Cheers, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 19:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate you coming to my page to apologize, Jaak; I must admit that it was literally the second-last thing I expected today. I am glad that I was able to expand your knowledge on WP:DYK, though you might have saved yourself some embarrassment by just asking, once I posted on your page about it, instead of simply removing the comment.

That said, I've been given chances, so I don't see why I cannot tender you the same. Just do everyone a huge favor and seek input before making large edits again - it tends to keep the "collaborative spirit" alive and well. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ps - thanks for the break icon concept. I was planning on installing a banner - lots of folk have them, but was seeking a way to distinguish between different types of info. Thanks. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a PC

You're now at three reverts as well, so please don't revert again. I'm still looking over the edits and I'll try and come up with a way forward in the next few hours. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 16:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and are you ok handling the 3RR report for the IP? I'll do it if you haven't got time but I'm really busy in RL at the minute. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 16:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anon at I'm a PC

What other articles? Send me the users/IP's, and I'll have a look. The best might just be for both to calm down for a little bit, and work on some other articles for a day or two. I'm not quite sure what the RfCU would accomplish, and doubt that it would be approved, as the IP's on Talk:I'm a PC generally make good edits (at least after having looked at random through their contribs). If you feel that he is stalking you, please let me know under what accounts and/or IP's, so I can check, and if necessary take administrative actions towards the user. Bjelleklang - talk 16:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mail is fine. I'll have a look during the weekend. Bjelleklang - talk 06:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review invitation for Veronica Mars

Arcayne,

Cornucopia and I are going to try to get Veronica Mars to featured article status. Given your experience at FAC, I'd love to have you look over what we have now, and help aggressively copyedit what we've got so far (which just passed GA) in order to get to FA. Interested? Jclemens (talk) 16:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re. IP of the Baskervilles

Hello Arcayne. Sorry for the delay, I have been away but forgot to put my status as offline. Could you please report if you still need my assistance with this issue? Thanks. Regards, Húsönd 17:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On Tonight...

Happy Birthday! Drink two for me! You're in the U.S. right? This JTR documentary is on History Channel at 10 eastern. Supposed to be new..we'll have to see if it's any good. If you miss my message there are other show dates/times. Got popcorn? ;) ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 21:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...hmmm, possible chance the article will get hit with vandalism more than average tonight. We'll see.⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 21:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]