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Headlines

Headlines... ones used have been struck out, but the last one is no longer online. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change

Resolved

– Film is confirmed to be titled Body of Lies via its trailer. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the movie has been changed to House of Lies, likely for marketing reassons, Body of Lies sounds like something starring Sharon Stone perhaps. 201.215.174.211 (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that there is verifiability about a definite title change. I did find this interview in which Ridley Scott said it was renamed to A House of Lies. I'm not certain about the finality of this statement since recent press continues to call it Body of Lies. I've redirected House of Lies and A House of Lies here, and if we can source a title change, we can request a move. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An article in The Kansas City Star on July 4, 2008 mentions the rename to House of Lies. Trying to find further confirmation; they may have simply garnered that detail from IMDb, which can be inaccurate. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The new trailer shows that it's Body of Lies, so that closes the discussion. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Russell Crowe Weight Issue

The Wiki article says Crowe lost 30 pounds for the role. As heavy as he appears in the photos, I suspect the article should read that he gained 30 pounds for the role. Can someone research and verify this point?

Russell Crowe Weight Issue

The Wiki article says Crowe lost 30 pounds for the role. As heavy as he appears in the photos, I suspect the article should read that he gained 30 pounds for the role. Can someone research and verify this point?

Portia McCracken —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.234.251 (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I definitely think it's a mistake. Crowe gained weight for this movie, not lost.SchumiChamp (talk) 17:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-Screening

The movie is also being pre-screened at the University of Kansas on October 7th. 129.237.169.101 (talk) 16:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Body of Lies (film) → Body of Lies — I am setting up this discussion for a requested move on the behalf of another editor, who initially redirected Body of Lies, currently a disambiguation page, to Body of Lies (film). I think that we should determine a consensus that if the film article is the primary topic, Body of Lies (film) should be moved to Body of Lies. However, there are a couple of factors to consider -- Body of Lies (novel) is the primary source on which the film is based, and it may be considered recentism to push a new film article to claim the "primary topic" slot. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

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+*<s>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/08/24/russell-crowe-says-body-of-lies-probably-wont-be-popular/ Russell Crowe Says ‘Body Of Lies’ Probably Won’t Be Popular]</s>
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+Headlines... ones used have been struck out, but the last one is no longer online. —[[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 20:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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+{{Resolved|1=Film is confirmed to be titled ''Body of Lies'' via its trailer. —<font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 21:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)}}
+The name of the movie has been changed to House of Lies, likely for marketing reassons, Body of Lies sounds like something starring Sharon Stone perhaps. [[Special:Contributions/201.215.174.211|201.215.174.211]] ([[User talk:201.215.174.211|talk]]) 14:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
+:I do not think that there is verifiability about a definite title change.  I did find this [http://eclipsemagazine.com/hollywood-insider/interview-the-great-ridley-scott-speaks-with-eclipse-by-scott-essman/5812/ interview] in which Ridley Scott said it was renamed to ''A House of Lies''.  I'm not certain about the finality of this statement since recent press continues to call it ''Body of Lies''.  I've redirected ''[[House of Lies]]'' and ''[[A House of Lies]]'' here, and if we can source a title change, we can [[WP:RM|request a move]]. —<font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 13:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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-:*'''Note''': User is in the category: [[:Category:Shared IP addresses|Shared IP addresses]]. [[User:HBC AIV helperbot7|HBC AIV helperbot7]] ([[User talk:HBC AIV helperbot7|talk]]) 14:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
+::An article in ''The Kansas City Star'' on July 4, 2008 mentions the rename to ''House of Lies''.  Trying to find further confirmation; they may have simply garnered that detail from IMDb, which can be inaccurate. —<font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 17:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
-::{{AIV|e|3 hours}} [[User:Tanthalas39|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">'''Tan'''</font>]]  &#124;  [[User talk:Tanthalas39|<font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">39</font>]] 14:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::Check carefully again, this dude has been vandalising with impunity since Oct 2! -- [[User:Aldwinteo|Aldwinteo]] ([[User talk:Aldwinteo|talk]]) 14:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-::::I checked again carefully, and he still has not edited in the last 3+ hours. [[User:Tanthalas39|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">'''Tan'''</font>]]  &#124;  [[User talk:Tanthalas39|<font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">39</font>]] 14:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
+:::The new trailer shows that it's ''Body of Lies'', so that closes the discussion. —<font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 21:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
+== Russell Crowe Weight Issue ==
+The Wiki article says Crowe '''lost''' 30 pounds for the role. As heavy as he appears in the photos, I suspect the article should read that he '''gained''' 30 pounds for the role. Can someone research and verify this point?
+== Russell Crowe Weight Issue ==
+The Wiki article says Crowe '''lost''' 30 pounds for the role. As heavy as he appears in the photos, I suspect the article should read that he '''gained''' 30 pounds for the role. Can someone research and verify this point?
+Portia McCracken  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.76.234.251|71.76.234.251]] ([[User talk:71.76.234.251|talk]]) 16:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+::Yeah, I definitely think it's a mistake. Crowe gained weight for this movie, not lost.[[User:SchumiChamp|SchumiChamp]] ([[User talk:SchumiChamp|talk]]) 17:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
+==Pre-Screening==
+The movie is also being pre-screened at the University of Kansas on October 7th. [[Special:Contributions/129.237.169.101|129.237.169.101]] ([[User talk:129.237.169.101|talk]]) 16:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
+==Requested move==
+==Requested move==
+[[Body of Lies (film)]] → [[Body of Lies]] — I am setting up this discussion for a requested move on the behalf of another editor, who initially redirected [[Body of Lies]], currently a disambiguation page, to [[Body of Lies (film)]].  I think that we should determine a consensus that if the film article is the primary topic, [[Body of Lies (film)]] should be moved to [[Body of Lies]].  However, there are a couple of factors to consider -- [[Body of Lies (novel)]] is the primary source on which the film is based, and it may be considered recentism to push a new film article to claim the "primary topic" slot. — <font face="Palatino Linotype">[[User:Erik|Erik]]</font> ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) - 17:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
+===Survey===
+:''Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with'' <code><nowiki>*'''Support'''</nowiki></code> ''or'' <code><nowiki>*'''Oppose'''</nowiki></code>'', then sign your comment with'' <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>''. Since [[Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion|polling is not a substitute for discussion]], please explain your reasons, taking into account [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions|Wikipedia's naming conventions]].''
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+:''Any additional comments:''